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It's not always I mean you know. Out of out of adult such torture and we had the bail out there you out of your schedule you know felt. Watching this group put it to rest departments put you on your. You know really listened to bring doctor yesterday. WGR. Sports Radio 515. They do have you know Taylor who like coming onto your business but it did or solitaire but we didn't play well. And Warner and often viewed him when you do that you have a good word art that consecutive birdies now. You're not gonna put up enough as it came. I aborting six so for Jerry lights out cloud CL. Matthew collar back to face producing. It is day out Buffalo Bills football Tuesday I suppose that night or. Post there and by the way they're accidents I SO and wolf our plates are Deo and we'll find out today I think. Who will be starting quarterback for the battles in there meaningless game against the New England Patriots Sally gonna have to help me today because I'm on bombed. I'm really bombed I wanna Denver to win that game last night very badly. Because even all the bills don't have anything to play four of them pride. The idea of playing spoiler to New England Timmy has. Value I was in that I could have gotten became evaluated my coaching staff but quarterback my defense everybody I was like all right fine. We can't make it but how about stopping them from getting home field. Try to feature first went in Gillette Stadium there are a lot of story lines there that for me what do worked and now New England doesn't even care about it cell. It's a no win situation you're either gonna lose to new England's backups or New England not trying. We're going to beat the patriots and they are gonna say well we don't really care and the all for Gillette Stadium streak come to an end and I don't get counted for anything. So I prepare yourself of the bills win that game I'm not going to count. In terms of winning at July because. Winning games. And to me it's important that the other team actually tries it needs to win and patriots no longer needed. Because it locked up the one seed they have locked up home field throughout the day as he portion of one house and that means is that. Us and it's funny I'm actually in the total opposites oddity I was rooting for Cincinnati only because of the pretty much the opposite of what you just said. I feel like it's it's kinda takes a little it's a little bit. Of the sting of Sunday's loss away knowing that more things would still had to fall in place now the bills and make the playoffs now. It if all of a sudden everything happens and you look back and go oh my god if they've beaten Oakland they would have been and. But it appears that might not be the case now because it's at a loss would have made it. Okay only two of three things need to happen. And the bills beat New England they would make the playoffs now it still have to have you have to have both things happen Baltimore has to lose. In city actually have to beat Kansas City some like okay. If those things don't happen which are looking more more like it's not I feel a little better knowing even a win at Oakland wouldn't get him in the classroom actually trying to rationalize for myself. And make myself feel better Jeremy. About that I want it's it's ready to win for that reason also here's the other thing. Let's say it's funny you say that we can evaluate the team I would have been. I would've been scared that they would go to knowingly make it absolutely blown out a situation like that and it only because there's so much not to play for for the bills so much to play for for New England it's hard. I don't. I know you're professionals I know it's your job they'll all tell you that but it's hard to get up review like that they're and I just what event I don't think I could have used it for. Any evaluation form this team has knocked seems out of the playoffs before I went to a game in Miami with the bills were like three and twelve and beat the dolphins to knock them out of the post season. The raiders right that's team that nothing to play for not the team out of the post season if you are out of it. I do agree that it can be tough to get up for that game especially if it's senior playing against is also a lot of it. But especially this doing the patriots right but if you can do something to stop them you can evaluate yourself. I I feel like we don't get an editor of a sixteenth game valuation against this for the spills team. I really really wanted to see what. Kyle Orton or EJ Manuel for that matter would do against the patriots a wanna see with his defense do his due second time around against Brady. If Aaron Williams being on the field would make a difference in stopping Rob Gronkowski and now. None of that and that's ten poll. So you know this game this weekend. It the biggest decision will be put they play cornerback so all put up the phone lines on how you approach this game and in what you think of it. 8030550. Who starts at quarterback and I mean what. What are the ramifications of that person's plight nothing to write that's what's so sad. Had about boats are there implications to cut relevant if each in our annual starts and he lights it up none they're not okay because you know what's gonna happen you do know all right I know that everyone's gonna say New England needed it doesn't count. That's what most people will say are most logical I will IPSec or I that's that would be answered him. But many fans who are gonna be knee jerk about it and say in we're going to be dealing with all the calls and all the reaction afterwards of ready. Seed this is why they should have played them earlier what a stupid decision to take out. I did get started his growth for seven weeks that's what you're gonna well is that there was growth and now it looks good to agri but you could look at both. Place I will look at it either way I'll look at it I I actually matter late. I will I will confess to having a thought. Yesterday a really devious sleep terrible. Horrible thought that culture matters or don't I don't know am I got of course not the answer com. Matthew elegy to hear this because I promise you. Driving home yesterday I thought about who's gonna start this game and how would matter and I thought to myself. If I were but if I was that coach Howard new England. And is really Smart. And they started Manuel. And let him look good. I'm not kidney come I don't let him look really good no player really basic beat that means I mean played the basic gist. And not just that might. Just let him go nuts. For fifty passing five touchdowns this kids grown. If you are really savvy and Smart. You might do that. Open it like you know that was the cute one more year we wouldn't have to it's I felt that's how disgusting ivories that I thought that. And I got terrified. Like that that happened there aren't sure. He did cheat. If it big yet jails they LC at the usually do the usually don't rest their starters in the situation that's true they usually play and they don't want the rust that means is they don't start there happily for three weeks. Yet they do that they don't. Tom Brady will often play into the fourth quarter of a 52 point win. Often play into the fourth quarter before pre season game yup. That's right they've done that as right so I I don't think that's going to be the case that the new innovative gonna play this game they'll probably my guesses. It's our Rob Lowe but my guess is they would start Brady and let him play half maybe and then start to go to the reserves make sure that these guys get some work in. And you know what on the defensive side of the ball guys are still professional players are you don't have you know hundred man roster in the heavily can't just throw out their budget guys from the NBA Dili you know an insane so. They're gonna blow out go out there they're gonna play a regular game maybe not with all their starters for the whole game and. From there I agree with you will be tough to judge exactly what EJ Manuel is if he is the starter. The question is yet to ask a case of Doug Maroney was asked after the game last week who are you gonna start he said we'll look at it will evaluate like we do every week. Is there any reason at all. To start Kyle Orton I guess because you wanna have you wanna have a winning season from his perspective I still don't get it. To me you have to go to EJ Manuel because your own you're thinking to yourself. I know all how much progress is it is made. In the time that he's been behind in sitting it with the second team in practice. To me there's more to gain Purdue admiral starting EJ Manuel here than there is for how Orton but it becomes a says while I still don't think. Actually Morton gives us the best chance to win and we're trying to win and that's our job here. I'll get I guess that's the coach's job is to do and he wants to win the game and I understand that. Well one thing is the bills will probably really want to get to 97 that's right. It doesn't mean some equity organization especially of that team in their house. Step nine wins over ten wins means you who have a winning season is supposed to being able say we and on winning season. It also means winning in that stadium but I know. Even if the patriots play Brady and rock and Revis and even at that label all the way start to finish. When you don't need it you don't play the same. It is equal or fraught it's going to be qualified pre season game maybe even a post season game is high say it like after the season. It's an exhibition after the season neither team has anything to gain or lose and win or loss and that's incredibly depressing the bills maybe have that one little thing of nine wins. They get to nine they can steal a little better but it doesn't change who they are it won't change my opinion of them. My opinion of this bills team is locked. In and will not be affected and anyway by the way that this this next game goes which is disappointing I was ready to evaluate and I don't think there's anything that can happen this game we'll change my opinion. So you're saying if they go out there let's say the pats played their starters the first half tank. EG throws for a really good percentage high yardage and a good happy as a good you know good outing in the first half and get to the second happen against you know second string guys and things like that. You don't think that the organization doesn't really. Anything changes stars of the of how they're evaluating each giggling in the offseason and what they should quarterbacks. I don't know about them Antonio bombing OK I guess I think I and that would be a giant mystic yeah I agree with you because it's one game and I think you need to see more of a body of work that. We haven't won many quarterbacks before Matt Flynn one great start in Green Bay campaign Rob Johnson one great start and Jack's got traded here and you know also. I would I agree with you on that note I mean I think that they would probably think to themselves let's say there let's say they're the place now they think. Of it we just don't think he's greatest. And then also next week he goes out and he's a really good African starters it's doing and I'm sure there are the only organization going you know what gives me growth we need to really think about in the in this next year maybe more than we work. I might say the only thing I can hope for is that another team that's desperate for quarterback season play well says pavement that's been calling. But buddy EJ Emanuel kind of like the way that we talk about Kirk cousins. That's like the best I can get out of this game I think is Manuel looking. Appealing as a project for somebody else a dozen media to go way he does have a quarterback here next year and who knows what what ultimately happened but. It's going to be almost impossible for me feel like anything. Tangible can come out of this game or anything it's actually reliable. Any reliable information on this game would have been vastly. I would have appreciated it very much and with New England not needing anything from it. That means they can trot out Brady and they cannot call the dolphins he normally would. An actress for across the way they normally would've of gronkowski is a play is an incorporated a 100% the their office is not the same. And then I don't get to evaluate if my defense is better in the second matchup it's just. And the dumps about them pretty am I'm pretty depressed about the fact that game will not count at all when I want it was that for account for both teams would settle for one. Now neither and that's really sat. 8030551808550. To 550 who would you start at quarterback. What does it mean Zia I've got other things when I think back to the raider game I wanna bring up. Things that I'd like to see the bills do differently philosophies of likened to incorporate. On just that even at the raiders exhibited in last night's Monday night game if you watch that that's the league. That's offense and that's the league. That those are the teams that are getting on television as the teams are going to the playoffs both those teams are going to the playoffs neither one of looked particularly good on defense Cincinnati gas for big plays Denver. Dash for big plays they throw the ball to the field they throw creative screen passes they get some run game and mostly passing game. So you know that's the league right there AB Dalton not all that good he lost AJ green pretty much early in the game and still on the way to get on cell. I don't know eight or Israel 551808550. To 550 let's go to Jim in time allotted Jim Iran at WGR. Yeah like there's a whole community that I agree that Jerry. And so we should start he gave but I think. Our world is tied that they kept election I'm Eastwood has looked distort. The lesion Sheikh Egypt I know he's gonna play or. This academia or anything they're gonna lose weight of op credit. Quite quarterback. Looked at a few years back where remember Pittsburgh need to didn't need to gain we scared. We all remember it was 2004 yes. You're accurate remember the year that I just remember that Pittsburgh absolutely didn't need to game they've played second and thirteen. And we didn't kick game and say am I the only difference. And that was another depressing day and not the annals of depressing days. And actually here and lipped and done well and I can more home he could have placed more emphasis of that 907. And he's not gonna play PGA at all may be ill troll and in the fourth quarter unfortunately he should have played Vijay. Much earlier this year what. It was obvious or more of the man. But so I got loose in their interest to. There is the same agent. That it was didn't and nine out there by five points I believe they can actually for the build illegally corrective Steelers didn't get the lead to the fourth course that's right at at and I was back and forth game the bills and a nine point lead. But umps are those out of one point lead and Nate Clements picked six and then the Steelers field goal and eight. James Harrison on the return put him in front 2617 and field goal but ultimately touched on the loss by five but they went on annihilated that nickname now. Wait remains the same he's right they did do that 2010 years ago right. I mean but even that that the point is that game gave me something to evaluate that was my my bills team against backups and lost. Like I can evaluate that what do Evans at the bills blow. A ten point lead in this game against New England don't care. When Evans if they have the patriots blow a ten point lead. Don't care that neither of these teams needs this game. Nine and seven would be the best record they've had since that loss to Pittsburgh which was you know nine and six going in and they lose the game. But it's just going to be tough for me and I I totally understand some fans snell will be. Terrified of a good game from one of their two quarterbacks terrified. The idea that of one of these two after especially Kyle or. That's like it's like one of those things where. Fans root for eighteen to lose just other coach can be fired because you think that he winds too many games they'll keep them and hate I you don't write you know you all false pop right right is that it's one of those things where you're saying that bans on sun they're gonna hope bills quiver plays. Looks bad and doesn't play well because you don't want them to keep on. Well where's the art of Ethel that's the you know pass pressure isn't as serious because you're not really focused on winning as much and Kyle Orton gets more time all the sudden. He looks good against doing that I don't wanna forget about Kansas City Miami Cleveland Denver. Green Bay. But I forget Minnesota most of the game like I don't wanna forget about the other games where he was really amassed Oakland of course thank. The idea that that they could argue that one game I don't think it's likely. But fans I get are probably scared of it I think these. I don't know I don't sit I think they should be but it's often that sports teams. GM's levers in charge will evaluate and a small sample size and get sucked into something we know what happens all of the sports world. And to be afraid of it here I think it's a legitimate fear us because New England does need New England needed to gain. And I had Kyle ordinary. They just beat the number one team in the AFC to prevent them from getting home field advantage that is something. I say this to her. Thank goodness for me. Okay this because personal on one level almighty god thank god I'm not had to deal talk this week up please loosely get a higher traffic I just hate that's not so much you know what this week out of the worry about it. I hope they don't win I want the team to go there and win its New England it's still division game it's arrival I don't care that nothing's on the line that you were you professionals strap up your play. I'd like to see him beat I don't care is Jimmy grapple quarterback I don't care which Tom Brady quarterback I'd love of the Brady they did that. I know he means nothing in the grand scheme of things in me my. And I don't but it's actually not a competition needs some that'd be some steaks the Arnold stakes. There's a scoreboard that's at stake but that's because they have to play up because they felt tickets are trying win but there are no stakes on this game as the triangle in and actually EO. Let me run through the streets of downtown buffalo naked if they do but obviously it be better to win than lose. I will say better to win than lose. Except in this case when it doesn't matter either way I don't I get nothing either way. Frank and a car crank Iran not to be gentle morning. Good morning Andre shrug oh. Really dark I don't know you'll ordered Germans. All early on but I do not seem started it game I don't trust would have thought if I appreciate you heard about Wingate. They probably eaten by commenting on power. Play quarterback giving the bench and play. I don't know I hate want to get you right away and for him I think. However that the quarterback we give it up but shocked when this game. Whether it it was starter or do you back. And I rarely do we RD EJ. It's the worst. Organization. Because if you like it out the great game and your voters during that it did not really playing. As part of it won't do it. Is it could be a lot of questions that look why didn't start Jake. What are struggling what is it your best start and propagate a distributor. That certain game. It's terrible freeze it or not competent going to the next year career saying that the deputy. Bring back ordering. Or calorie agreed to take its player option and compact because he didn't know about it and it could be pop for the belt to get another starting quarterback in the odd event. Like I think it. It's about being all the way around. Do you not think it lately that I type feature kind of hurt somebody in the back almost. Every important start whether it will ground injury in the pot and not playing that game. Great not playing it I. I think just a terrible news for any hope for next you're injured it's bad. I mean it's game going up to eat it's you who are they care about this game at all. I'd that there's a lot in their calm but if he he touched on the point ME early witches. It Vijay plays and plays well that's exactly what's gonna what it said. For right or wrong people are gonna call this radio stations say. Why the hell didn't you play this guy earlier look what he did and I agree with the you to say that you can't gain anything from knowing what he did on Sunday. So therefore the question becomes does abroad and think about that does he want himself that position those questions be asked of him he probably doesn't care. And he shouldn't care because he's the head coach has to do what he thinks is best but. The fact is if EJ Manuel starts and plays really well. We're going to be dealing with calls right after it into the offseason. And he's going to be doing the questions and the organizations immediately questioned saying why the hell that you start them earlier because now he it yet you couldn't he could have done that earlier and he could be in the play a street now which I disagree with. By the way ya okay so that's what's gonna happen is that in her own does not decide Plame just to protect against that scenario I think that that could happen and I just think it's it's a possibility each get a half. Maybe maybe it happens maybe he plays like that kind of like a pre season games I regard right kind of what it is I think yeah. Although praising games this year he got really upset that and we are one of them. When boy who was it who was the guy the defensive back against the giants. Who made the bad play in the is there also is named Ross something Ross was asked Crowe knows that Jeremy Rosser. With the bills defensive back who gave of the game when he touched on Ryan NASA in the pre season game in the bills from at a lake. The guys that are going to be on your team why so like who care nurse. We got a pre season game of the way on Sunday what you want to see out of it what what. What's gonna happen and I am in a bad place because I don't think I'll give them any credit for any positive personal blame them pretty were negatives. I think. I'm pretty locked in I know what I know about this team and a game where nobody cares isn't gonna make me change my mind and know anything about it. Industrial 550 analyst Doug Rhone decides to go for every fourth down in the game just like Robin faces. And with oil say. To chaser who fear it. All right cells got the at their back their phone calls it a 30550. Open fall line for you how you evaluate this week and what happens from here. And when we get back up play in the raiders game and ask you sell. What would the bills have done. The play that the raiders in this game made to me was the play of the game how with the bills have played it I think it's part of the problem. And then they do have a game to finish the season. New England. On Sunday in center Erick what a captain Eric Wood joint show with a Bulldog yesterday and discussed trying to get up for a game assent to that doesn't mean anything for the bills in the standings. Who worked today. The robbery doubt that those to be up there were also the but you know professional start job in at the end of the day. We have an up fashion as players. And murders in this community that Hillary go out fight this weekend it will be charged. Bills patriots Sunday begins at 1 o'clock right here on WG Arlen pregame coverage we're beginning at 7 AM. But breakfast bills wide receiver Matt Mike latest in the short tenure with the team has come to an and they announces release yesterday he was inactive for games this season. That was waived injured a couple of weeks ago we finished with eight catches under 42 yards and touchdown he's now free sign with any team. Denver lost to Cincinnati last night that he's doing it doesn't have anything out of line. When the bills play and that play them on Sunday that game last night was 37 to 28. And the strength of four interceptions of Peyton Manning injured Eagles a 147 yards rushing so essentially. We announced locked into the number one seed the AFC. Denver needs a win or Cincinnati lost to get the number two seed. The Denver loses next week at Cincinnati wins since the vaults into the number two seed however cities like Pittsburgh that was move now that is a Sunday night game. The winner takes the AFC north. And that one savers and Detroit tonight at 730 that in their practice yesterday he is Ted Nolan wants to make sure the flu bug that has our effective pack what do Matt Olson. Does not spread college of saint Bonaventure comeback falls short trailed by twelve at the half and they lose by 2 to Maryland Eastern Shore 8280. And pick and topped it by an action cam Kansas suffered their worst loss to unranked teams since 1979. Number ten jayhawks 7752. Losers. The temple sports updates at the top and bottom of every hour or when sports news breaks I've talked about GO WGR Sports Radio 550. Being shot at him for the food and fix them go off in the distance but little. Good good good good good good. It's. O. Good good good good good good good good good good. I hate to leave had to pick six. Long kick returns and a big place in that game in Cincinnati last night AJ green guy injured. For fantasy championship. Monday a slash you know those are two high profile teams and Jeremy hill right away a big touchdown run. You by Bernard big numbers as well Peyton Manning. For a stretch there they were unstoppable many hands are getting picked four times but he had three straight touchdown drives open the second half like they looked unstoppable look like Cincinnati would certainly lose the game. But it's missile Broncos couldn't hold onto the momentum or whatever so. The easy win for Cincinnati that means the bills and patriots game is not at 4 o'clock it's at one as previously scheduled. If the Broncos at one bills and patriots are gonna be moved before so that the Broncos and patriots didn't know each other outcomes. Because the NFL wants teams to care and try which is a good thing. And unfortunately in the case of this. Well that's his character I think they want to make it now they wanna make it even more once he doesn't have to say or rest your starters we know the answer. Went out another team has the playoff the starters because they don't know yet gotten into you know got an actors strike here I mean it is a competitive advantage for the other team as well who's playing in the other of those games. Ogre yeah I mean it's about they want they want games horrible teams are sure are invested. And games like this bills patriots game are they NFL's worst nightmare because. Well into the worst partner put these of his charge full full price is gonna app they're gonna Eric. I had spaces Ari sold but neither team needs it so the quarterback what do EJ Manuel. Kyle Orton. Any ideas for this game what would how would you approach it and is your opinion of the 2014 bills locked in wars or something. That can happen at Gillette Stadium that can change it and I'm pretty comfortable in ought. Part of this those cells that have been comfortable on how I feel about them for about a month and a half now. Like this little mini playoff run Iran to try and stay in it at no point there really believed they were gonna make the playoffs. The the loss to Denver didn't didn't really depress me the win over the Packers I was not cloud nine I was more along lines of it's that's a nice win. You know if they'd done it a different way I might have believed in it but. When it comes to watching sports I don't like to believe in false positives I like to trying to ferret out. The difference between a up a really sustainable win model and one that well you know you keep got a lot of breaks it doesn't look that kind of win model picking due to winds down the line. So I don't I feel like I know what to expect from this team and you know one more game against the patriots with nothing on the line is not an -- release anything about it with that said if they play Emanuel fine if it Lorton. Fine if this game meant something for both teams. I might be in his spot to say who would like to see it as public to see Manuel no matter what I'd probably like to see manual but if it's a pre season game. I'm already depressed about what I got to try to you know a lot of the data. I have a tweet here from Mack who says a winner take false positive roan needs to go so go pats at the I don't think anything hinges that don't featured it has nothing to do with this game to me I don't know maybe I mean I could I I seriously doubt a winning seasons at that that is I think it's it's priority to determine I don't think well if you win this needed to winning season we can make it better term maybe you're right. I mean it does matter Jeremy let. I have a sense that they've already determined that. His fate of these is coming back and I don't see him going anywhere either win or lose this game I don't think it has anything to do the result of this game. But I was gonna make the decision that'll be interesting. I agree with you he's probably back but it's Benson who was making the decision it's entirely possible that. Somebody else comes in and says we wanna do battery coach which is of course possible Jim Harbaugh. Is about to be fired at a San Francisco 49ers Jim Harbaugh has made three NFC championship games his record in. Four seasons like 43 in nineteen. I mean whites. That's your record as a coach in three seasons are getting fired that's the kind of thing that might lead any organization not just the bills you might be. Cincinnati. And say. You know what we think Decker is better and our guy Marvin Lewis makes the playoffs all the time those in the playoffs all the time. Marvin Lewis might just be good enough to never get fired as a head coach which you know that's a real thing. Just good enough second longest tenured coach in another prime Belichick so you know lies with what Harbaugh could be that could be five teams that decide. You don't want we can do better than our coach let's go to Harbaugh it's not on her up if you treat coach like any other position than you can just changeup or somebody better. And continuity is is the word it's not you know to me is not an actual thing that as much value. If you get a better coach and he'll probably be more much more likely to have continuity because he's better he'll stick around. Well the dolphins were a team that were rumored to be also noting on regarding Joseph Philbin according to what they said however let's remember let's remember the Stephen Ross. Just a few years ago said the exact same thing about Tony Soprano and then tried to hire Jim Harbaugh yes anyway and then because it. Looked really bad and when that got out it egg on his face he went back this browser it okay I'll give you contract extension as a makeup yeah that's right that mocha. I never heard of contract accent to make up sex but I guess that's basically kind of hey you know what age you fight yea gotta get back together and as we go. 8030550. Your phone calls the plan I wanna talk about coming up in a moment what with the bills have done and why is it part of the problem. First though pat a car pat good morning going to be GR. Good morning thanks again. That they destitute things up for grab are out. And who are. Here though a lot I would play EJ Manuel and I was the coach I'd be part in or out all the stops and maybe win at Foxboro cities'. I'll I'll plotting a little. But how if you if you on the team which you're evaluated when it Foxboro as a real thing if New England didn't care. We know what the in the media and not the typical of the doubt here he game Indo Chinese looks that I can work what some IP and that here. Yeah I wonder what the bills head coach thinks about it he he's of course gonna go out there in season tried winning game he did in the pre season. Bill Belichick as self pointed out this is right they don't often. Just trot out Tom Brady for three snaps. And then bring in the next guy whether it's. You know what Twitter instant trivia on patriots back ups I have looked it up yet we ever ever week we do quarterbacks that have played the other team. We are patriots backups during Tom Brady's tenure would be great in some trivia roll on Davey okay go ahead. I ask Brian Hoyer are right there on so very nice with regard to this that they're Drew Bledsoe. We're gonna do later up and that's the am I am am excited about this it true I guess that street right user that's right he didn't actually get shipped out right away earlier. And I lost every Otis open I had this. The play of the game to beat the play the game in the in the loss to Oakland is third and 42 that the deep pass down the sidelines. What did the bills too uncertain 22 in that spot. They throw a screen pass I'll tell you what they do I think they don't. Historic history tells me the way this coaching that coaches and especially that he was going specifically during that game. The builder page of the exact same situation that Chicago was right there Oakland. I'm sorry Oakland opinion the uniforms at Oakland was right there. The one thing they don't do is throw the ball past mystics. So whether you can go with screen pass you'd go with. I guard slant hopefully guy catches and runs with it for a little bit you can go draw. The one thing and they don't do is throw the ball past the sticks and that. They certainly don't that wasn't a force that's what it's like Minnesota now which is different. The third one you want it to lately fairly deep in your own territory yeah when they leave with a lead to protect late in the game. No way they throw the ball past the sixth date taunt and trust their defense that's exactly what they and no matter what happens the game ends up being close. And you get to say as a coach like you know we had a right there we trust that our defense and always gonna get Tonya we're not throwing deep down on the sideline on third and 22. But that's the difference to be sell between. Teams going out in attempting to win the game. And going out and trying to do is always manage your coach your corporate are we trying to manage the game and keep closely. Open to me wins that game on third 12 and they rolled past that the bills I don't think ever with. And the bills spent two draft picks 21 routers on Sammy Watkins and they don't make that throw to him. And maybe it's because of Watkins it's double team but where's the throw to Robert Woods in that spot about the the Minnesota game in Minnesota in the got the fourth and wanted to Chandler. The jump ball to Chris Hogan. Like right on the pilot. One play before on Watkins an audience. So you know like where is that the where is the let's go win this thing it's third and 42 in Oakland dialed that up and I don't think this team ever what. And that's at a time. Most likely they run a screen pass it runs something to keep the clock going to plot. And they but they would not have Kyle Orton dropped back. And try to get the ball throw it past the sticks in my eyes that even even in third and so they didn't do that. They might at the time to get that's that that is accurate let's let the bills only make that point we built a good little roller rushed three of the raiders rushed three. Orton probably still dumps it off and I'll say this we got a call yesterday there's what you called and then we had a few people also chime in on this on Twitter or. Other otherwise and a phone call and say. Well why did you blitz. Their current situation. I don't need to be the right thing they they covered through their the coverage they watched him out of the pocket with the re guys. The end the guy he threw to was essentially covered any fourteen quarters coverage. He just made up on the ball. It happens sometimes it sucks but it happens I have no issue with that defensive call on that particular play they dropped everybody back and said your neck like two yards and us in the three guys they cents. Did their job figure him out of the question out of pocket. Yep in the bills would never throw that ball and that's kind of sad. Aid off real 550 title went broad on the field let your guys make plays draftees guys to make big plays like that and they just popular there's enough. City locked in some 1000 yard watched as well this week against doing but he needs what's neat fifteenth somebody 530 fighting it. 75 Ali and I think he's pretty aware he knows it within a thousand yards and I actually what he would have I think he'd be the also be his if he gets underneath the. If I 100 yard games this year to be most were rookie bills histories. Spent a couple other outlets for the record is for India industrial fire 51 more before inexplicable to leave Miami legal morning Iran to be GR. Or two more Gerd road record. No. A truck there was a repay it there and we'll wait so moral support. Portrait of Brittany but why the NATO on grown. Well we sort of burst at. An award against reburied at the victory or else that happened. Undated and he what what what all I was at exactly what we're so when you want or long term contract released or reward. All of a sudden outlook about all we were not the sabres. Not to be in ought to not see it I. I walked goal. In another direction that the way to include what this circular not sustainable the beetle will not all sorts of corpse and concerted efforts that are sore. You really want them to what might see where it's actually a good and he he has everything to do with. Success we see this year so. And let me ask what Paul Allen obviously there's one is just for a second I'm not telling I disagree that Jim Schwartz would get out my gosh that let me ask it this. Alternatives reform okay I'm Italian Jim Schwartz wouldn't be wouldn't do a good job that's not the point here but I do wanna bring up the point that. When people bring up Jim Schwartz as oh my god he'd be so much better head coach. Hey Jim Schwartz was a head coach in this league he did make the playoffs one time with what I believe to be pretty good talent in Detroit. And let's just are not forget I want to bring this point they fired him and they're much better this year. The lions are much better this year they've eleven wins this Georgian I'm just of us are much better. Why they're better they have been what Jim Schwartz's head coach all I'm saying is some guys are really good coordinators great or meters not head coaches. So before we all start talking about how great the head coach Jim Schwartz would be in place Doug Rhone. Let's not forget many peoples at the same thing about Mike. Last year in this very spot he went to Cleveland and there are no better than in buffalo and a lot of that happen and they're gonna happen but Detroit is not hear the limelight is not. Here are the lions' wins. How good of the alliance. Airlines when's the giants. The jets. The vikings the saints the falcons the dolphins. The bears the box. The vikings the payers there to win over 1500. Team. RG the one that always talked about how Matt Stafford had never beaten when winning the best guess was as head coach than Jim Schwartz you the same winds right they win they were bits that I don't disagree I'm telling you. I don't think they're much better. While they wanna they they're and they're playing for division title this we. Because they play the NFC south. Mean I then I don't think they're much better in time schedules friendly in Asia civilized but I don't transit lines to be any real contender at all. But pelvic playoffs in Europe that you know they're not to apologize for 8030550. Most of that instant trivia when we get back Matthew in working on I think you'll be ready Soviets on one of its teeth so sad that we we can't do. List of every quarterback in you have rightly it is it's possible problem on. All the back and I'll backups with Brady like guys actually threw passes without our guys are some roster. Well that's you'll what do we do will figured out into the break up instant trivia patriots back ups because they're so awesome that we at that their backups. As we prepare for week seventeen under each year. Also a they would do is they don't got integrated. Bits and Myers. With the tag like game at a time and thought it went. Did you read it but the knicks we don't know that we in the postseason so to take it one day at a time to get them into the Betty he's the best. And that room and we'll come back and played. Even better next. Adam. Pacman Jones. Bengals get a win on Monday night and what that means is the bills and patriots game is not relevant to the standings are sort of playoff implications. Patriots lock up home field throughout the portion. Via playoffs. Denver paper patent in debt is elegantly and I know he hasn't Deborah clock and it to India three right I'm pretty sure that's the way it looks and boy. I don't know they're not locked in they have to beat the raiders or have since he lose if they don't lose that is still at the three batters Denver loses next week and since he wins since he becomes the two seat. Okay what the AFC despite having all these these teams that would like 910 wins then it looks like a one horse race Cincinnati. I do not believe is very good got to be doing and aren't ya and yet the odds on favorite absolutely. Denver has not look right for a couple of weeks Indianapolis I think it's a complete. Champ but borderline no not even a contender. On the money line. Since Indianapolis is plus 25 on dressed like 500 which means that nobody thinks they have such nice things back for a team that's that. And the two favorites are plus 216. And depending where you go and you look but around 260 com Seattle and New England. Ball now which is a pretty low number. At this stage of the game in Indianapolis I just give almost no chance but Amy beacon a possum on. Our right instant trivia time. Here we go here we go here we go right 2001. With Tom Brady's first year as they starting quarterback in the National Football League. Name is backups. There are at least five or six who you have no chance that. Okay and then the rest of my big you can get I have. I have 1234567. List aren't aren't so that between two let's let's meet you might feel and act itself I Scott if you that we don't know so we'll try. Are you ready yes when a star pitcher Ryan mallet. Medals correct Brian Hoyer and where is correct. Jimmy drop all legal problem there Kurt back up Brian St. Pierre. Help us get out run Davey rendezvous is right former LSU for a Matt Cassel Matt Cassel is correct. Drew Bledsoe. Let's those right the last when I'm illustrate how Doug Flutie. Looting is correct in 2005 he hit the drop kick Tim Tebow. I know. He was there you give that to me I don't run has never played right. Roster you give that to me I think that he ever go to the regular season I was not ever policy yet. Cannot count. You cannot Vince he on his ideals by about it does think Alex Alex bar costs we shoot out move last night that doesn't count. Bernanke again Kagan frequently at the rate Corey shock to me that was the last when my last cell can use certainly hits this way is again. One of them has one of those names that comes up band every single time McCown he's not a McCown. The one that an hour by restaurant is not Brock. His brother played also endured an irregular in Europe is correct this guy was a standout and K state. You Moody's part of it was de gar Michael bishop that's rights and usenet. That's at Pittsburgh one that you could. I didn't even have hints on these guys because I don't know who they are so here's the list of other guy. I would have been on the roster and its number of carrier regular season and paid to watch Tom Doherty and some of them were draft. Doc Kliff Kingsbury I do have one that I wanna bring up I don't know if you play. That for the patriots but I thought he did and I just before he gets a veteran on this list. They know. Of any that he was never back at all and none at an active roster now okay. I've also got Zach Robinson Kevin O'Connell met Gutierrez has gotten up an account. Corey Bramlet Todd mortenson and Kirk. They Testaverde played the million pages through three games in 2006. He just looked it up yeah your basement you know obviously you know he denied he was two for three by the way. For a touchdown well good jobs he was not on the was not on the Wiki Ron Kirk got him I guess they forgot about bidding any play that great. The test. He was 43 years old at the time that she's on my god. Well area in center backup quarterback for the patriots over the course of time racecar that drafted more quarterbacks in Tom Brady's time in the bills have in that same time by a lot to. Which is really sad. 8030550. Maybe the bills do it this year draft one in the second round third round. What's your plan quarterback not just for Sunday. But for the offseason. Aid a real 55188. By 52 by two of its bills and patriots. We got to figure out what's gonna happen like what is that all expect to change with this football team going 4 o'clock to about that I would view next here on each year.