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WGR 550 dot com head over there you can read more about yesterday's free jet draft luncheon with the Buffalo Bills brass. About tonight the entire sixteen game because it was for the team on the schedule where they'll play when they'll play along with the rest of the NFL's only release publicly. I believe it o'clock is the time. We'll have a live quarry here on the John Murphy she'll make sure your tuned in for that then we'll take your calls reaction afterwards as well the bills. There one of eight possibilities. To open on Thursday night September 10 at New England these Super Bowl champion to open at home to kick off the NFL season. Of course daily and eighteen they play at home to the bills one of those. Possibilities again tonight 8 o'clock schedule released haven't posted immediately on our website at the BGR 550 dot com as well. College hoops men's basketball UV maybe losing a big part of last season success guard she and Evans has reportedly asked to allowed the transfer to are allowed to transfer. However the UB athletic department is yet to decide if they'll grant his request they can't consider blocking certain schools they could go to even if they do grant that request of one of the schools. Reportedly an Evan shortlist is Arizona State which recently hired former UB coach Bobby Hurley and started all 33 games as a sophomore. For the bulls last night the NBA speaking of the bulls Chicago style they beat Milwaukee 9182. In early to be nothing that series gold's lead over New Orleans 9787 also up. Two nothing that series NHL readers up to one on Pittsburgh. After the Rangers beat the penguins 21 in the game last night. The wild now have a 21 games lead on Saint Louis three nothing they shot about an overtime Anaheim they beat when a pay. Five or the ducks out of three games to nothing lead over the jets were to update the top and bottom of every hour or when sports news breaks. I'm south of pot you'll WGR Sports Radio pipe it. Stuff always sunny image you know and that's a possibility. I don't like to. Corner myself consultant saying we have to do this because that limits your possibilities and kind of curtail some other options that you made. Shut yourself out by saying that but it's definitely something between cornerbacks and quarterbacks since. Passively. That we would definitely heavily to considering every year WG. Sports Radio 550. We're upset we're we're. Will put the demarcation line. I'll guys that if these people that we think we have a chance to go and get it. Then we would consider it but I'll tell you guys right now with the lack ammunition. I would highly highly doubt that we do. We be more prone to listen offers to move back and becomes more picks. And again I guess and I'll never CNET and liked emerged as it's free to listen. Bills GM Doug Whaley some of his comments from yesterday at the draft lunch we got articles about that at the WGR 550 dot com Howard. Now if you if you sell your Jeremy he's off the rest of the week again code word for this hour is flop. You have about four Mormon it detects the word flop a fellow 7881. For your chance to thousand dollars and our national win cash contest message and data rates. May apply myself we have the GM the bill's going to be joining us at about ten minutes here in studio owed him some free advice is always like to do. And then. Will also talk to you but whether that the bill should draft quarterbacks out tonight. Sell you're gonna be on the air for Murphy's off tonight he'll be on when the schedule was released at 8 o'clock. So folks can talk about all the good and bad things about the schedule really subject self. So that's that's our 8 o'clock the bills will release and I we'll have a will run through it will take your calls reaction in. It's act that firmer by. Great for him his wife is getting prestigious award for all the work she does advocacy for women and things like that out and now Washington DC so he's a good husband he's going to be with her tonight. That means I'll be on the show tonight and backs the big show would wanna be a part of it might feel bad way to make it sound like you you know you're glad went out here best I don't really shuttle maybe. So opener when you want we want. I do. I keep going back and forth from this I don't think I wanna go to New England on Thursday night to open the season that's a tough spot for any team although the Bergen ago I really think they're gonna put Pittsburgh and I. I do Cuba well I think as we Philly. Because with the Levy on the L suspension for game I think that that takes away. From that match what they might wanna do I think it's going to be Philly how a team that's what you know they would want that. So or NBC or epic I think it's NBC needs it anyway I think here's my prediction I don't know this is just a guess I don't have any its information. I open but the jets and it's going to be in Nike does don't know where it's due to the first Monday night game right here in new Yorker he. Now here to me that I football here here it's okay not in New York wreck returning to New York now. I know if it is probably more sexy right makes more sense I mean I hope it's here at like a home game. Denies both yep from a TV standpoint they would rather have it in with the jets crowd Boeing wrecks all night. Which writing whatever right yeah I think I think bill's I think the open up with a division rival I think bills jets I and I thought a night I thought two night games this year. And I I shot from the one they always get anyway yeah I actually thought. My first thought on bills jets maybe it's the game here. My first thought on bills jets was a night game and thanks Thanksgiving night are that could be I I think that's a possibility they don't like you know sometimes they do what division robbery they're they don't always do it but there's there's a mixture but I thought bills jets. Third game Thanksgiving night to me would be an attractive Matt yep I agree I thought about that now you think it also now if you wanted to go ahead. Thursday night there they always get a primetime game anyway and it's usually again Thursday that every I think you'll get a Monday and of the go to the Sunday night game I think they can get a Monday night game and still be I would still put them in the Thanksgiving night. OK and that counts as their Thursday night by the way primetime game on I think they're gonna get their normal Thursday game which nearly every year in Miami Cleveland. In Miami last year either gonna get one Monday it can I do think they're gonna get a Sunday real. Just because the Rex Ryan because of wrecks because of McCoy hole all of the ideal I. I I I did not think they'd advance to the point where they would be put in if they do that's got to be doing. So I'll it'll have the -- really very Rex Ryan Bill Belichick at Alice. I. Me if the bills are on a Sunday I think it has to be dealing gaffe the beach and imaging get others that story line of Rex Ryan vs Bill Belichick act. This you know this continues. The bit this mighty bills' defense against this great legendary quarterback. I had thought of the bills jets in the bills' New England has their two night games won on Thanksgiving night maybe maybe if if the bills jets are among the united open bills in the wing and on Thanksgiving night. If they're going to be on Sunday night to me it's a no brainer at the bills in the patriots I'm hoping we get along in game this year. Hope we get a wanna get rid around the end of October beat cool it when we how would you feel about October 25 there's a lot that would be an Oz how the 9:30 AM start. Kind of what that means every caller like on the air. You don't miss what the bills you feel they like for what have you what what is the programming lineup that they look like now I'm actually not doing it now they'll come and be doing sales Pletcher won't get gotcha that's right by the way Matt here knows any full time overtime post congratulations but that's going to be a cool I know what. I listen to you we come back from trips that are sure. Emma my way back that's pretty cool I mean come on the air at 630 and Jeremy he's not like 4:30 in the morning with the first few hours of the pregame show. I think we're gonna have to start maybe usual time like six. Wow you are saying. I love the London calling I'll be on the phone UB UB get it going let's go to the field sat out the year at Wembley London calling do you have high powered our it's a 130 in the afternoon out there though 6 o'clock pregame incidents so I've noticed out in London and at the lap traffic Arctic. Now. Now we've got a Whaley coming up and five minutes we got that few minutes difference trivia. Janet Snyder gets done we'll be out in time I will be completely shocked she's on time less than I'm exactly. No way out I'll marched out of that studio in here by. So the bills do not exactly first round pick I don't know if you guys heard no way they treated. 21 round picks for Sammy Watkins. But it wanna fight about it. Yeah that go. That's a thing sometimes with people that they swapped exited semantics but that sense. Anyway they traded those two topics including this year's fourth Sammy watch which means they start picking in the second round. They have threatened some pretty solid sports ballplayers in the second round fellows to your name mean last and it. Buffalo bills' players. Who have been drafted in the second. Round. Go ahead Howard gets there. The legend did he go Alonso is correct current Philadelphia eagle that he is Robert Woods Robert Woods also correct. The Cyrus budget count as solid. Ballplayer. You just. I say probably be be determined you know I mean but he's unless there's some guys didn't play in the effort here for in the line turnout in pretty good. Cyrus can't wonder is correct you got the last 32 round picks by the bills in here year spurt. Here's hurt his right caller Petersburg multiple probable. Pol Pot solution yeah. Well it is Stein. Correct he had made big contract with the great Jack wires that most mispronounce last name in recent bills history. All Muslims who that was the year they drafted marsh on cracked and then pause with the second rounder at the right at least so. Well I'll go back to that reminds me of the year they drafted Willis McGahee the second rounder that year was Chris Kelsay but as a within the last ten that is not within the lines that OK but he was a second rounder uphill so a name Kelsey Hill saying. I say Kelsey that they live you know anyway that now ability of the tree and mile victory is right the same here Petersburg OK second round next I got one guy for sure than the rest I'm not sure they fall in your last ten. A moment ago with courted line 41 is right nice and others out way out to go one day. The first one it. Believe it or not James Hardy James Hardy it just got to ask you another interesting one thanks Otto you're missing 21 is currently on the team and as decent sized contract a pretty good player. And the other one is. But. I don't know probably nominally getting more. One of them a very well Aaron yep that's right apparently she's Aaron Williams and the other one Paula I give me any stand up to me somebody year. Give us the year's draft and you have it. School like Illinois. It's Paula comic you know. It was 2010. Helen Diller year he was only meant to rupture that's correct there. And his right that is the last and we know if you still only second round picks by the bills. Nine out of ten out of 107. Out of then and what he wants seven out of ten were pretty good. I don't know it's Cyrus wants nobody Glenn Berger V tree. Party pauses OK hardy tells you on day trooped in new much as seven out of ten we don't know quandary is going to be side put. So I got to nine it's been decent for the bills and they've missed that I feel that. They've they've hit on the second round of more than that on the first round earth. Kwon do in the west I think you're include Kwon do in he hasn't done anything and I know he's only a rookie but. Answer our kissing got in games last year Sean trying to since startled when against this guy is a second round pick I just couldn't call him a bust yet not when it came to James Hardy are trailed troop. It's over their boss yet but on jail I don't know every lineman plays in his first year that becomes good. I'd still I think part of the problem quanta is a canny play the tackle him guard what are they gonna do them. You know I think that's that's part of it too and it wasn't just the guy came in and he just wasn't ready to play at the guy came in and all of a sudden like I don't know. That kind of off the wall weird question. Can you explain to me so how would the because I've actually receive this in this that your real question and it sounds kind of weird but. Russia shot affect the jets play money and they don't. They don't schedule. I saw the story a few weeks ago they don't schedule the jets or giants Holmes Sunday 1 PM. What is in Russia a night isn't it it is and it depends when it falls does that fall I I I read this year Paul Sunday night Sunday night. That's what I read to be wrong nights too so be sending them money and I. Yeah so they wouldn't play probably wouldn't wanna give them a home game. At night right but doesn't mean they wouldn't ship them up here to play a uniter here. I know what it does it does weigh in their bills they had a big issue about a few years yes I was a home during the holidays come and it was a big problem because all the season ticket holders everybody complained. So they need to ever ruled our I don't think they schedule and they try and stay away from okay well. In the meantime we as a guest coming it's a lot to look at that but I it's something I definitely saw. That's been floating around as far as with the schedule released tonight and things like that not really sure. Where now could you introduce him because I have to do the obligatory Twitter picture I take the aussies pictures so I got a mixture and equipment man your Twitter. I'm not even on Twitter well that's because you're the GM of the build your comments back as opposed to what I get my bad enough. Yours you wouldn't you better learn it it's me let's get a beat him hooked up in the technological age as she gets older and you know I'm not all that stuff. Well here's here's the reason why parents go back I got it to solve a thing as far as you know. I've realized the fact that in this business no matter what you do some guys don't think your complete idiots so it's better for me to stay off of that I get this guy gets in no doubt about it. I will introduce ladies and gentlemen the general manager of the Buffalo Bills hired in 2010 as part about what as buddy nix assistant took over the general manager duties in 2013. And now I hear this is studio is doubly so thanks for coming in appreciate that and I get the timeline right there right and thousands and you come here 2013 you get elevated let me Tex talked to team historians how personal is that right and I'm I'm up. My my Whaley history ago. I'm just focusing on today and it's funny because that's one of the things that people always ask me. How do you attack this job and in this job you have to just grew really worry about winning today. And no doubt about it so he yesterday obviously we've met with the U over at one bills drive pre draft luncheon okay generally speaking at just the bills but how much. Honesty and how much smoke screen goes out with all of those meetings around the league media guys do you give a conscious effort to save your staff. Don't get them to watch short trying thrown off how do you approach that. You approach do you wanna be professional we respect the job you guys have to do and we gotta give you enough that. Show that were were respecting what you do but we also have a message we may wanna get out there probably have yeah and will use you guys as a way to get that message out there. And then are also some smokescreen you have to throw out there so it's it's really gain a game that keep you if you play and it's something that. You don't like to but it's the necessary evil of the business. So with hand signals then tell us where you're going to pick nine. I'm I want to ask you about quarterback Aaron but about a before I get to that because this is because you don't have a first and you don't have a fourth you have fewer picks. What's your approach this draft and coupled the fewer picks with. You know for the first time missed the best roster hats and you've been here there are no obvious starting holes right that you have to address so. What is your approach to strap because of those two different factors. It's it's perfect especially for personnel person now you can set the board. Just grating the talent not grating that talent added in with the need so it opens up everything every avenue for us to be as. Particular it's possible but also not look at somebody and say well. He's better than we think he is just because of the need and that they need pushes guys up and then that's when you you overdraft or you've you missed on guys. So we're excited personnel people are excited and it's just one of those draster where. Hey we can actually go out there and everybody says best player available but I'll say this best crew are available for everything TO. Dean you made lean towards the need but if the best trailer available was way above the knee guy you gonna go plans I didn't. This is maybe a stupid question but when it comes to that hole need things like that or number in your head like let's say you. For example you you'd like to take a quarterback you're up at fifty now the guy you're the best quarterback on your board isn't valued right there. He's not Koppel or three spots away like when you say BP A vs need. What's the gap means it is yet to be close to that's why has it absolutely no let up your take in the fiftieth guy on your board Knight has to be close if let's name. Hypothetically think he's a load second round pick an optical that correct correct you never. Anything you never want him reached below you or your hand doesn't wanna go you always one reach about. So quarterbacks. After the top two. Course in the next tier of quarterbacks who do you think it's worth the discussion in that next year after a marionette and Winston. At rice paddy Garrett grace and those those two guys are are are pretty good man in. From Morgan State so there's a group clump of those guys where. As we stated beauties in the eyes of the older I'm getting its wheat seeded magic I just want you know that so you're gonna rain. Everything you do or don't you hear what the hold want to. So those guys. Our guys that you know are gonna have a chance to come and and compete right away. Guys like Brett Hundley are gonna have a longer. I guess shelf life to try to get in and be able to produce because. He has more I like to say he's more of an athletic thrower or rice paddies more of an athletic passer. So those guys will take a little longer I think it might make them Brett Hundley but he's in that group and it just depends a Brett Conley in the Seattle Seahawks. Offense may be more attractive to Seattle so that's classic beauties in the guise of the field. To follow on petty quickly because you guys yesterday talked about how the value winning quarterbacks in college to become a little bit more difficult. Spread offenses reading half the field hey look look to the sideline get the signal on stuff when you. Watched petty. He can I know you're not gonna give way that the scouting report on about what he alike and maybe if you could what are some of the things you get concerned about when she got in that offense like pat. You'll like his is deep ball on a short game what you don't like is it seems everything's predetermined and and it I don't know if this is a good analogy. I can come in here and give an interview there may be good maybe bad. But you never see me host a show. So he's done some things on the field but we've not seen him do things that were gonna ask him to do and that's where. The question mark columns and and that's where the balancing act up where do you have that value. Kenney do a candy do you think he can't can't so where do you put that value and that's why some people say well he should go to second round one. Some people think so some people think well I mean he may take longer he may not be able to do that and that's why it's harder now. To to scalp these quarterbacks because you can't see them do what you want them to lift. Burke soft and by the way if you're looking and hosted show yeah yeah so thin but I schedule really showed McDonnell really honored I'm trying to stand my. If we heard Rex talk about Tyrod Taylor tell us your valuation of Tyrod and why you guys went out and signed tyra. Tyrod attorneys. First of all he's been in the league he's been a back up to Joseph Flacco. So he's been around it's a Super Bowl winning quarterback Heathrow and athletic schism you throw one of his knowledge of the game and then you throw in his ability. To improvise and make plays on the run and his passing ability. We feel it's a perfect. Person come in to compete for this job and all three quarterbacks in four quarterbacks we have on the roster now. Have something different and bring something different to the table so this offseason to me and if we add another one. That's going to be the the position that's going to be the most exciting to see how it comes about because. It truly is talking to coaches are going to be open competition were gonna split the field and we're gonna have guys and getting reps at the same time so it's not one he only had eight reps today and he had four reps these guys are it's gonna be open competition and investment went. And I love competition on the competitive person. And these guys that we have on the roster across the roster are competitive. People but most most quarterbacks I know. If they're worth their salt our competitors and welcome challenge. Built GM Doug Whaley Willis here. In studio and one of the High Court wanna get back to that I let's say there's a guy you like rep whatever round to round three but in one of those two rounds if you don't move around. And as a guy you like now you're gonna draft him and he's. Probably not gonna start okay. But you draft in thinking somewhere down the road maybe this guy turns in the something could you do that if you draft a guy in the second or third round as a quarterback. Could you do that knowing he might end up being on the practice squad is that too much of a gamble that would be Christian OK you would yet if that guy's getting drafted. You're thinking he's on my roster might not start but this is a guy is gonna be on the fifteen absolutely. And would go back. It would it would be a throwback where. You draft a quarterback you let them set Marin for two or three years and then. You give him a chance to play unlike today's football where if you draft the guy you gotta prom and right away and then after. A year to you gotta make a judgment which is tough especially with the lack of pro style offense is that these gas plan. The last two years 20142013. Fifteen. Draft choices. Fourteen of them actually set suited up for game actively the only reason why the wind and Dustin got hurt before the New England game obviously. That's a really high success rate of bringing draft picks in that actually make your roster. Is that. Can we expect that this year considering where the state of the roster. Where's well that's a testament to our personnel staff we've got a strong staff which in monus income Fisher and on the college side. And they do an incredible job and our college scouts so I have to give them props on that pressure has as I say always you have to be surrounded by wise counsel. This year it's going to be tougher because of our roster because we've hit on so many draft choices were pretty deep. So it's going to be tough for further the fifth and sixth round guys to make it but were. Who knew who knows you might find another shot thrown Anderson churn out so were most expect all these guys that can can can can come in and compete. And have a chance to make it but it will be tougher for those guys. I've told the listeners all morning then what I would do our used just you know take all those leader passage freedom for next year's blown up for next or when you're gonna need to replenish again can you do that forming. Always a possible Larry Dixon what I do for you last year they yeah we talked about the trade with Cleveland that data have been that was pretty crazy. You know we we've talked about how the rosters in better shape there's no obvious need so. And you've talked about best player available and and how you stack your board up. However is their position or are their positions that you look at going into the draft where you definitely would like to get someone at least to address depth. Yes absolutely off. Defense to back you always like that his defense and back and there's. You can always at a quarterback if you if you don't have a proven guy out there and oil everybody's talking about well he doesn't believe any Janie Morris and now we just thought he hasn't proven it yet. We still believe in AJ we still believe that he has a chance to do it he hasn't proven it yet so I just wanted to correct that right now. You mention he has improved and yet with Egypt specifically each year three. Just think maker breaking year like if he doesn't win the job. In year three would you look at and say it's for Don you got to move on I think he would say to he knows this is his this is his make or break year this is his time to step up and show. Everybody's got to clean state with a new coaching staff and it's his time he's dedicated himself he's working with the Steve the bird and offseason so. But one thing we know. He's gonna work is but often he's committed. Now we'll see how the chips fall. And you guys haven't seen him because it's been work outs in the strength and conditioning area so far but any idea like what has Steve deferred been working with each day on you have any feedback in terms of what he's focusing on them. I've I know it's it's more. Being comfortable with what he does. There's a lot of guys that try to change this and trains that throwing motions and stuff like that. Think he tinkered it was a little bit but he won at the tanker it. Be similar to elected Jim fear Gosling. Do what you do best but let me. Tinker with it a little bit so it can be more proficient or efficient not proficiency. With the. Commercialism says Garrett is still pretty much the only spot really that you're not completely sets are starting lineup is concerned I've penny how like how you wanna lineup on the defensive and you know defensive back and stuff so that said. Just how to tell the listeners we think about this guy art class that someone could command as the pick fifty or pick 81 and compete right away for starting out well that that's. The one thing though were or were really lucky is that guard and the depth no offense offensive line is something we would be looking at. And this is a deep draft not only an offensive guard and our offensive tackle and now like we've liked to have. Coaches have said we're gonna tinker and put the best five out there so we're not storm ourself or interior guy. But war go bass offensive lineman and that there's as a possibility at fifty was possible in third round and there's possibly add to. Sure. When you've. In the past in your trash you've brought in guys that have had some issues from off the field issues. When you set your board this year is it any different because of all of the stuff that's happened around the league last year hearty rice Peterson I mean I'm just in on the second go through all the names. But if you know would you look at guys differently this year because the NFL has had a number of off field issues with guys. We've always looked at the same where it's a case by case basis you want if a guy has an issue you wanna bring him in and I'm a firm believer look at a guy and the size and you. I've been around people that are con artists and you can get a feel if this guys come on in Europe and or if you can get a feel what this guy. He feel sorry he knows what he's done and he's and he's got a plan in place that's another thing Allah are you know you did something wrong how. What could you do differently and what's your plan where it doesn't happen again and if they can come off right off the cuff with that cannot fill more comfortable than a guy said. Well. I haven't. Decide I'm thought about that then that gives you little trepidation so again it's case by case basis. And the NFL has been cracking down on off field issues for awhile and though we also want. Character guys that represent not only in Buffalo Bills but the Google is in the and the bills community. And yet get your draft meetings elect to go Thursday night the first round OPEC would like pizza joint. Sports bars there you know oh we're think it's I don't understand any download button with six button. We got to stay by the phone just thinking he got a cellphone. They got a big TVs and yeah if the draft Abbott then don't be too noisy you know might miss something only they'll be hockey games NBA playoffs you can watch that stuff. You never know someone calls and says the next 31 routers for number fifty right is that rounds is now overnight as how we say never say never that's right all right I Palestine as they originated. Doug Whaley joining us we'll get back in a moment talk about well we just discussed with the bills GM that's coming up on WGR. He knows this is his this is his make or break here this is his time to step up and show. Everybody's got to clean state with a new coaching staff. And it's his time he's dedicated himself he's working with the Steve the bird and offseason so the one thing we know he's gonna work is quite often he's committed. Now we'll see how the chips fall and you guys happy. All right that was. Built general manager Doug Whaley here at a BG or Sports Radio 550. He joined us here just a moment ago in studio can catch that interview. I'm demanded that EGR 550 got Tom all of our I'm the man audio. Is brought you by northwest savings bank it's time to make the switch to northwest I thought it was really actually we asked about the quarterbacks in. I channel early there because he met dimension on the that I want and kind of bring it up that as soon as that happens those names get thrown out. You're gonna get comedy tweets like all that much on lead and match Donnelly. But that's a name that is really kind of a wild card in this whole. Quarterback situation but I thought it was very honest what he set about brown which is he's gonna take a little while longer but in the right system he might be the perfect guy. But in another system he might be some sort of project that's essentially what he's basically sent them. To me I was in should buy what you just said about each. Make or break it year and yeah knows that OK so this gets us back to our discussion of whether you're drafting a quarterback and he also. Said in the and we talked about this earlier you're gonna draft a guy around to around three that's not a practice squad guy OK so that guy's gonna be under 53 man roster. Sal I. I think their draft and a quarterback because what he just said about each. I I I think you have to look at it if you're going into this season saying any day knows this too it's a make or break year. And how many of us think. Matt Cassel as the favorite for the job right now aren't expecting Matt Cassel to beat out EJ Manuel that this is his make or break year. And he can't win that job then he's off the roster at some point. During or after the 2015 season. I think for sure that I would draft quarterback this year knowing I'm glad that his approach that common to have an open spot. Well it's funny I gonna take it the other way because he also said which will be back to the to practice squad. He said it's too big arrest that the guy if you're if you're not gonna make the roster so to me that says. Where it needed this shot it doesn't make it this year will move on after we have Tyrod Taylor may be that we can keep in his place anyway rivals so what if if it's a make or break year for each. And he loses the competition in training camp. One of the does decide to cut they all they can do that paycheck that can't just take it had to do that castle I wouldn't expect right. But I'm not ruling it out I mean and you would have castle Taylor. And the guy you'd draft yet that's I think you know the whole thing with DJ. The expectations. Are low. Really a minute for me and I've been trying to I've been believer as much as possible and eject the expectations. Are really low. And if they don't they're looking at the this is not a make or break year for each day I would lean that if I had a project or predict break before make. So that the case I'd like to have another guy here and house with a year under his belt working with its coaching staff I get some. And if they can't you go practice squad then you dear caring for quarterbacks are one of those guys who lose drug EJ Tyrod Taylor assuming capsule with job. The loser Vijay Tyrod Taylor is probably out of a job by Labor Day. So Adam that that's a great question I don't know I don't think you're wrong I don't know but. When he says make or break year. Think they keep them on the roster most of the year if not all of it. It's not a hate you don't when it training can't your done you know but but you could be right they may decide regulate look. We're just not seeing growth here. Let's give them a chance to move on and let's save ourselves and we can go to another direction may may be that happens Howard I'm not saying your wrong that. When he says make or break year. I think that means they'll give on the whole year even if he doesn't win the job job to start drinking. I wonder I am not sure I know it's Mike wrote act gathered at a piece of espn.com about the bill should think about treating each. Haven't thought about it it's honestly what are you gonna get form. Fifth round pick sixth round pick I don't know how much you're gonna get for EJ Manuel and if in if he does lose out in the competition his value drop even more I assume. By the end of training camp. But I just to me it's about. It's about planning and and it. If if you're looking at each day and it. Also part this is what realistically and you did a piece about Tyrod Taylor recently. What realistically do they think they have. In Tyrod Taylor if you save of the bills so you got a guy basically he's a gimmick he's got to run your whose own rate none other out and he's really fast but we write their answer is. We think he can be a you know back collegiate. So it depends on what they really think they haven't Tyrod Taylor but this is about planning and planning for the future and if one of the quarterbacks on your roster. You're thinking definitively. This is it for him either he makes or remove it on from EJ Manuel why wait another year say EJ doesn't win the job. And they think OK you know what we're gonna have to cut ties with the G after the end of the 2015 tease out your U. The draft a quarterback next year you you have a crying need at that position. Why wait just bring a guy in now and you know them the the competition the more the better whatever the case may be you don't have to react EJ being gone you are getting it. All of that of the games so to speak in. What plays in this for me though Howard. My own. Personal feeling that this is a bad quarterback us he did that plays into form I. There's nobody on this list that I'm looking at right now all the quarterback prospects. Besides when scenario there's nobody really that I go. Like to have that guy you can get him in the third fourth or I just think this is a bad. Quarterback draft class my being. And so what the class DJ came out and yeah yeah that's right goes couldn't get anybody trade for Matt Barkley think that the best guys pars and Mike Glenn yeah I he's on the trait. Yeah homer rumored to be of any lost his job. Yeah Ryan and I think. Sure that that is part of that trepidation and and and maybe this gets to your point earlier in a class where everybody's got warts. Somebody that's him merry go to but for sure you get out of the top two and you have a lot of skepticism when it comes to the quarterback class. In that class is it the time to spend your second or third round pick in a year you don't have one you don't have before quarterback to meet. I think like I said I think this is the perfect year to play that gamble. Because we're sitting here talking about look at the roster they addressed Qaeda and they brought enough fullback that addressed running back they brought in again. You know they believe are starting offensive guard in in cog need. There's no pass rushing hole created by the departure Jerry Hughes. They have filled on number of areas that we would have said going into the off season. You've got to address this position so to me this is the perfect here you're gonna gamble. Yeah even in here we have less picked up to that picks in the first four at this that the propagated because right after going eight disruptions in good shape because every draft pick is an. Critical of your hat ready it's not critical that you nail that you don't write in Iraq the second round it's a man I gotta get the best tight end right there and act I got committed stock that's right. 2011201213. Like in those years that it was getting much more it was much more out got a guy that the roster was bat right. Even last year going back to you wanted to have you wanted to start hitting what they were improving the roster now agree with you that. If your pay. If this guy doesn't make the team guess what I might as I can go make a chance to take chance I get that. 8030550. And we'll get to Canadian Florida Katy you're on WG jogger right ahead. They could take a mark Crawford saw. Can grant is now. On his new position. And on so I got out a little match. Thank you very much I'll be relying on Macs a lot for the reporting duties so as we orbit though thank you very much appreciated. Well is that this scenario. Yes in the Tammy cannot wanted to let the cat out the bag. Didn't feel and bill are gonna go for the number one case. And I believe you did try to hurry the area and intimate we've been so and each day. Did it and send them the sample footer per day. So that we can we can do it on game so. And a lot more than Darius and EJ to get the first to move from fifty told un. Please include the Panama all world defense good Jack Cole. Maybe you're going from if the whole warrant and it defensive tackle is not a a franchise. Changing type player and the quarterback has and the Bucs GM just came out yesterday and said this is the biggest draft in the history of their franchise. They're gonna bail out from one dropped down 49 spots. And bring in EJ Manuel to compete at court. For all world. Wouldn't do it Katie I'd fire my GM on the spot if he did that I would fire him before the draft was over. 8030515. To join us 888552. Factor to one like holiday coming up. We wanna talk to you should the bills draft a quarterback this year animal talk more about what Doug Whaley had to say wanna get your comments what you heard from the bills GM if you miss the interview. Mr. Connell put it in on demand audio at WG Torre up hole. Actually do your jobs. Did not. Serial drive up sales so it's an on demand audio WGR 550 dot com and we'll also re air a little bit later in the she'll OK coming up. What I call an is that it thirty. We'll talk with David Quinn. He is the head coach of the Boston University terriers will talk to him about this Michael Kidd. That's coming up to one WG. A ball. Are leery about color solution six more. And that we will always have a quote personal and shrimp and yes there. We are we controllers. Our danger we should both be over. Fairly didn't listen we're. Both ears I don't know you to listen to the show me credit. I knew we forgot to mention something the last six months that was. A 20% chance for the first arrested seems reasonable. Why. They barely speaking of outlining the man loves free speech. We have a great wind coming up at 8 o'clock S from Brian Price by like who is price. The goalie from my Joseph Canadian as the rest man oh. It. Anyways he let. I heard an interview I was doing yard work listening ESPN radio Sunday and that was the interview on ESPN radio and I said the same thing I need to realize that Agassi was the pitching coach for the Mariners when they won like a 116. To sixteen games after the Yankees in the play out the era. He was the pitching coach back then no idea of how is the reds manager I knew now I know this week now I know that interview he went off on a rant with the media yesterday gets about. Essentially injury reports like the media disclosing who is or isn't available for the game that day he went crazy. 77. F bombs moment in five and a half in a five and a half minute rant. Matt fueled in his best to clean up that hadn't. And will some it's coming get at 8 o'clock and looking forward to hearing that I I I imagine it's got virtual this listening to us driving back to one bills drive. Scott imagine if that was. Somebody with the bills of what you have to do to clean that up to put out there whatever he's probably don't thank god they got debris that they got Doug Whaley doesn't go out there and do 77 spots. We'll get back to our quarterback discussion coming up at 8 o'clock we'll talk more about what that really had to say about the draft about the next group of guys after her. Janus Winston in markets Mary ought to feel real by fifty to join us 888552. For a fifth about a little wider line call of the day. Brought you by the premier group wind made easy the mirror group one of the week. Is oak grove cabernet from California. Just 899 for 750 milliliter bottles he all the premieres written specials online. At premier Weinstock to tweak a few minutes now wanna talk about Shannon evans' story. Because when Bobby Hurley left and we have the story for yet and our website at WGR 550 dot com. All other quick note Doug Whaley and if you're not only at our website it's also the W jar FaceBook page so either way you can go to either one of those who listen back to the interview that. When Bobby Hurley left and took the Arizona State job and we brought up the idea of okay Hurley is gone nobody tap about that he did a great job got in the NCAA tournament. But the bigger shooter drop would be what happens with the players you know that's. That's a team that should be favored to win the mat next year at the team that should have the best backcourt in the Mac next year coming back for NATO it's. What happens which Janet Evans what happens with LaMont a beer okay we partially know the answer to what happens with Shannon Evans she wants out he's asked for his release. From his scholarship for the university of buffalo. They have seven days to basically make up their mind and respond. Now as the story goes. You know blacks you you would property noticed schools can block a player from going to certain places yes it's I would say it's fairly standard procedure. To block a player from going to another school in your conference yes fine you be. I have not now suppose that they're blocking it from Arizona State VCU Old Dominion and and Mac schools have no problem blocking him from the Mac school. Now and back to others go back couple years ago Michael initiate transfer from duke to Syracuse people were very surprised. The coach K let him do that they had a relationship coach K and two behind but normally that would not happen you would usually almost always block. That you'd also almost always block. A school that your coach just left. Yeah go to tell you what it did and if you're wondering about BC you know do you anyway they'll block a Mac school. They would block issue they felt Bobby Hurley tampered with Shannon happens after he got the job and then tried to convince to make complain for me and they were and they could consider blocking. Basically they consider blocking any school that might be in next year's schedule. Here's what I'd say about that you wanna you should block of Max cool I don't want Janet Evans playing for a conference opponent. I don't care be transfers to VCU or old do you. Or what ever school is on your schedule predict it's one game the ideas that be a competitive advantage she goes that's Cooley tells all those guys. Hey here's what you need to know about you being it's a competitive and it. It's one game. In 8. Game schedule I would not block him from going to a team on my schedule. The Arizona State thing I would understand cell. You're right some school I wouldn't want players to go play for coaches who were there here's the thing. I think they mishandled Hurley situation if the story is correct that they did the whole will make the highest paid coach. Dot dot dot by a thousand dollars if this story is correct they wouldn't let his agent negotiating his contract. But I think you've been mishandled this you know what I would block Arizona State if you mishandled this in early left Soviet. I would only want Shannon Evans not to come back and beat me in my conference and keep me from going back to the NCAA tournament so I'd block a league school outside of that gut player review one play. Just curious why here like I don't know and I'm sure eventually will know but. They don't have really good recruiter. And a lot of these kids are his kids and like it are excited to play form than they know on and everything I'm wondering is there some and I know that. She even likes playing for Bobby he wants the plea for Bobby I get that but. Is there something going on the he doesn't get along Nate doesn't wanna run his offense something like that because. Doesn't she and Evans had to sit out a year transfers to another yet. You know it's gonna she goes down a level right now competition which isn't to go to Arizona State where. Estes and accuracy goes if he goes to a school bottle. They can block him. But I think he could still go to that school but that he can't have a scholarship in his first year at that school while he can't sit anyway so what matter maybe it's his first playing OK doesn't play but what can I know that they could use pressure your whatever but. I mean he's taking up pretty good risk here and his own career by doing this which I don't understand I mean. I just wish the kid would stay here I'm not gonna you know I'm not his advisor parent or whatever AB. For selfish reasons I think he's a good player I want your UB I think halibut I think that's a huge blow if you. I just to wanna know more why this is happening that. You know I'm glad that this the only one we've heard about so far I hope it is the only one. Here well I get what he said now he meant to you can fill me in on mr. I think he said. He believes and I think he's right you can play at a higher level than the mid American conference I think yeah absolutely again there's a few things that are play for Shannon and eat well first of all he said. That granting the release doesn't necessarily mean he's going to leave it's just about giving him the option. And feeling like he has the support of UB for what he wants to do for his career right. And he feels like going to pay as you would be the best for that. If he can play in the NBA or overseas trip overseas might be option for him pretty darn good player. And he also called Hurley a father figure to him said he was a really close mentor there. I think that if they block him from going to be with Bobby Hurley. That that's going to be a lot harder to understand for people that they block from Mac school at the bucket. And it makes a lot of sense we don't go to Ohio. Atlas every you know every game but going to ASU there in no competition close. That coaches a father figure to him it would make. A lot of sense to just let him go and do that and pursue his career which by the way I know amateur athletes all that. It's supposed to be what colleges about I know I know. I know you don't pick the school really for academic picked for the cup couch and we know the coach and AM then your kind of scrutiny I just meaning college you're supposed to help kids do the best finisher career which might be for this particular. Person. To build there are so we would have a better chance at playing overseas or even possibly longshot but possibly in the NBA. Now I I know every school's gonna roll their eyes at me saying that I just well I think from a public perception standpoint. Especially from lice on Twitter yesterday when this was coming out that. Even even a long time you beat that want them to win would say. Little lol if you're not gonna let him go. Pursue the best chance for his career and be with the coach that he really wants the plate for well look I. I understand all that but also say they've programmed in anyway as a program to look after an. If you do that what happens at NATO which leaves next year and the three guys who played high school for him they came here with a are they all gonna say we're gonna go follow NATO it's wherever he goes you can't get to be careful in these precedents. Happen I you have to be careful is that but at the end of the day he can still leave as what we've Hugh Grant his release I think he could still go to Arizona State. So he would apt again might lose his scholarship for a year or something like that I I I hear area. I would understand that two. I just I think first off I would have done a better job trying to keep my coach. And if you did that you wouldn't be in this mess. Mad at dodger right it's that it is certainly an. Anyone else to offer help and I know you're you're really all play for Bobby that's right I will sit it quickly and a relate to the for Shannon Evans if they block if he can't go to Arizona State I will say that really got. He'll go to so it could play in a big and the power five conference he can play for some other pac twelve school. Or he can put name another big and FTC he's that good so he will not have a shortage of offers if he says it. Division one a on the open market someone called a offers to play at our conference schools because he's a the at the end of the day the issue is sure it's about whether or not what should you be doing here if you leaves that's a huge loss that's the problem with losing early. The talent on this roster now they leave and now you're back now you take a big step back again for you being you don't sustain which season. Eagle 30550 to join us 888550. To 515 when we get back. We'll play back some of the comments from Doug Whaley talking about EJ Manuel is make or break year. Whether or not the bills should tech quarterback will get into that in just a moment 8030 I picked the gravel line at doctor apple lots on WG. Our FaceBook page set up for you to weigh in on our on air debates jackets dotted FaceBook dot com slash WGR 550. Everybody Howard Simon at the driver heating their mean and it's your grade offer on the table right now for my good friend. Words of comfort Richard driver and the owner primer heating and air Scott Murray can save you a ton of money if you were in the market for new air conditioning unit. You might have been thinking you know I was gonna get it Howard but you know today. Early June whatever helped get it today. 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