Aug 24, 2015|
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One hockey talk. See his fans. BC British high. Kevin Sylvester. Peters he wanted to knock knocking you wanna talk zebras call texture between Kevin right now. 0305. Feet. All right good morning. This is a day I'm thankful we're not doing a financials Joseph Andrew. And dale good morning anybody who files the news. It's Els on 650 or. Don't look at your four okay. Okay Tom of course Obey amounts that update Jordy Nelson go down with the ACL yesterday goes you'd fantasy football draft or ready. Nelson Benjamin out. Probably. Early selections at wide receiver. And we are talking mothers before the show. But training camp. And the necessity of allies say the duration of training camp how many games you really need. And that debates going on football for quite some time something that Andrew has NHL players you guys debated. And we're able to decrease the amount. Of pre season hockey or at least the time you spent. In training camp right there reduced by about a week. We a limit all of the time between used to attendees. Until your first. Scrimmage. Or exhibition game what are you wanna call scrimmage of inner squad game but yeah exhibition games so he'd come to camping and you have the three hour rule for the first you know whatever 56 days which was never really followed and then you have. And you have. Few days three of blasted and then you have. Right into eater nine exhibition games back in the wants it back in the days but before the last CPA anyways and I was 105. So. Yeah I am there there was a little bit of and wiggle room there for firm the teens to give. I think the problem surrendered a week. Two veteran players so now training camps about three weeks and they get right into and where are basically yeah yeah it whereas it's a month further for the and the rookies you know the guys that don't qualify for the until late to our camp invitation so. You still qualify for I'm. Rookie camp voluntary gonna go to the rookie camp and play even more but. But that's not a tell you what I think that's an advantage though for the young kids there's eight a even though the guys are skating in her skating at a pretty high pace. But there's still pacing themselves where these young kids by that time by the time camps opened up they're going to have had. Three exhibition games to against the Bruins are one against the devils is that right. 82 games to gained ground there aren't. Place owes at least donate money okay its soul whatever it is the fact of the matter is they're gonna have two games under their belt and a few practices and whatever and and now does that mean they're going to be better than the veterans know what they might. And and not not to mention when main camp opens they will have all their testing done. You see the state testing for the guys probably on Friday in all the the big big camp guys and and so all these guys are our. Our weakened now my idea it's a tough week. Training camps top. And it's probably even harder for the for the younger kids right off the bat. Because you want to introduce these young guys to watch the NHL won't work level is all about. So all that's. That's that. How can I answer your question out. Yeah well yes but I have another question yes. How much time did you really need like you know what when you're a veteran player when you were established in a teller of how much time. Do it because you know it says I think of football they they need. They do need some time to go full speed full action against somebody elsewhere. In oh and had a terrible cliche but they don't when the bull to real terrible. You know when things get real. So I understand that. That needs to happen. In hockey. Because guys are skating right I mean they're Jim they're lifting skating skating lifting our goal is right now running biking they're doing all that stuff right so they come and camp there they're in shape although. There's gained shape correct how much how many games do you need to plays the better to be in game shape. Well here's the thing is that I don't believe that. Veterans truly get into game shape and a guy like myself that I I don't wanna use mice myself as an example because I needed camp. I needed all the training camp in fact. I would've whining complaining kicked and screamed but if they said. We want you to go to the rookie camp are probably would've gone because you know what in the end. It would have been better but the fact of the matter is you have to know which players and who needs what. We didn't need Danny Briere playing seven rate exhibition games I don't think he's dead but. Even still you're starting to play these exhibition games three days in the training camp. Well the guys are coming into camp more ready than they ever have because they they know they've they've lost a week. And they know how already you need to be for park for a soul. There's a big difference between exhibition efforts from your star players because you don't wanna see groin pulled for no reason but. You have to you have to honestly you really have to gauge it based on the player some guys love it and won it and other guys don't but. Guys like myself and other guys. We didn't wanna see our star players getting hurt. You probably wanted to see them playing as little as possible and that's kinda like how football goes right like they they know all Rex Ryan. Rex Ryan knows. I'm sure there's a couple of guys on that bill lineup that are doing the old veteran time off before the season because they got pole. What it's smarter nobody it's it is Smart dole it's really Smart like if you're resting guys or and maybe maybe not but. You know you don't see you eat what you're what you're saying and I'll say it is you need to see LeSean McCoy a for the rest decreases. Occupy wall I betcha NHL player the blog to just play two exhibition games and boom right into the season three tops tops. Because I'm telling you three games three you get here you get your your your worker in your systems all the way up to get three games to to work with your team. If you know guys are going to make. Them the roster. Keep proper training camp plate. Have to have two weeks of training camp play three exhibition games boom or we can training camp three exhibition games and boom get into the season. I always found. MO I still find it I I. Nobody. In general lights pre season games. And maybe it with a blanket statement if you like them to beat this guy out Soviet all right there's that element again. And I get the point where you gotta make you line up where you don't wanna play all your veterans in one game intellect perhaps the last game of the pre season. To get them ready horror of this every one and there where you play your line. But the lineups are always mix and therein lies a concern when it comes to pre season hockey is. OK I've got. Evander Kane ride rally Tyler and it's out there. My second lineup Laker incidents but I'm gonna play. You know Justin Bailey nick that these industries and those guys it is an example they're likely route mr. players. But and then we got these free agent deed to put up into the teens do the same thing. And what I wouldn't want is my Vander team line to be out there against someone as some guy trying to make the team. On the Carolina Hurricanes if they're going to play and he's just look in a blast of entertain. I don't need that. It happens all right yes the Zellweger came need to need to get it aren't checked. I think he'll get if if the coach if the coach and I'm not when I say if the coach I'm not talking piles on saying across the league the coach. If the coach believes he knows how to get his players ready using. The right kind of drills in practice. You can never simulator game not even with a exhibition game. You can't simulating game there's when there's criticism back there on out there on the line. You tend to hold back which means your putting more risk. And I'd and I think that's why you've seen injuries I think sometimes. Why you see guys with tweaks I mean. I think we continue to try and pushed the bar which is great and we should. But then theirs. Does that then there's a slight unrealistic. And you've got to Beazer. These are prime athletes in a prime like. They're like. Hi test missed like engines. And I just don't see the reason why you want are put them through so many rigorous test runs before big race I mean night especially when you know what's gonna run smooth. Smoothly. So I'm looking at that I'm looking at the team right now when they have sixteen forwards. Under contract okay are on their roster here fifteen Patrick Collette is still on there's USA but all these guys here let's say it is sixteen. How O'Reilly. Willie realistically be here will he be in that he'll have to earn it but he could but he's but who else on the of the old guys all the guys other than the McCabe. Raw Reinhart maybe Shaw our. Realistically spreading goalie. Ghoul is knocked in a play here this year Tim Charlotte will not play here mostly this year but he has an opportunity to maybe make the squad Evan Rodriguez will be in Rochester. All mark will not be here bat teased more most likely not be here Lou do not here. Carey night here daily Rochester do we want Rochester Kia round are here. Never is not here Samuels Thomas not here Austin not here. Kat not you know I hear Sundar Lou and saying unit daddy centenary. Jacob smack her off. Pakistan and bag no. No offense. You start the season tomorrow wouldn't just wondering who you're a couple left wingers are I'm not trying to be a jerk. That's a great. That's exciting. To each year. That there's there's not a tonic gaps and open spots available on this team. So that being said now so so you say is they don't need 73 season but it. Well I know you wanna get a look it's great for management to get a Larkin maybe all these guys won't play together as a whole team for the life till the last two games really right. But even still. Still it's it's a long. Drawn out process. But then again it's never going to change. I think you could start the season later. Give them give the players that play longer more time off. Well. That life where you go in there early to I think that the economy at least it was a shorter season which used to be. On the and that means less dollars I'm not talking less games. Why I think I. Or he's be less games period or you could just start the season earlier sorry you could start the season earlier this ends and it's that hanging change up more. Get a better product Aniston playing well I just a week tell you why. But you take the last two exhibition games. And you see how hole. How hard players play. A Max and those are regular season games and there was there were points on the line in early an early jump start to get you know what catching another team and a slow start. Huge he could be huge for this team is eight you know if your plane to exhibition is a boom in and you catch a few teams to a slow start like maybe Detroit who might not be able to recover quickly enough for a Boston who was always on the bubble and Philly and and some of these other teams are looking Montreal. Tampa Bay still little you know hung over from of the long playoff year. Then all I can be it you know it just it makes for me it makes for more interest in well you. Season ticket holders are Gannett they're applauding you right now because the other gonna say campaign for game I'd like to have it count. Tom CNN we're getting into the the revenue part I don't know how much revenue really matters in pre season games but I believe I don't think it goes against HR ER. You meet yet doesn't count. Port eight yeah I think is sinking of football where that it doesn't yet and yet it doesn't count towards a player's compensation. So owners keep to essentially keep yet now there are cost. They do incur. Which training camp so Brad so it goes to pay for those sort of things. I gotta believe it's a and you know what. Whether the deal is the sabres and the owners the Mighty Ducks. There there are business to make money so there are allowed to make money. So if they come on the positive side in the pre season fantastic so here's what you do. To pre season games cut down can't be guarding know who your team is pretty much send everybody to Rochester. You get the small plane condition there that get them playing exhibition games in Rochester soap anybody get hurt at the start of the season boom. They're ready to go there and they're an exhibition shape form ready to be played six exhibition games against. Significantly differently whereas say I'm not seeing what guys are scrubs don't don't write about that's not what I'm saying it might sound like because I'm just cutting into the chase. But the fact of the matter is that you could you can just have your big team here and bring guy you're T your league teams an hour away I'm using this is a great scenario here. So it's great situation to talk about. It's a perfect example actually but. A lot of times in my teens might not want a bring their. It doesn't come down of that and I'm just saying connected via. Into right. I know we go and I think in order go here and I think you're right I think. If you displayed to pre season games buffalo Toronto -- and dare call it three let's let's welfare let's of the beef are pretty it's a home game right so you get a home game I get a home games or so miles Celtics a four game let's call it four games where before we agree on for sure if you wanna go for whatever floats your boat were kinda and they're negotiating a CBA right now yet all that right because all four games. And I tell you guys from the from the standpoint of the players. Did look mr. Sylvester we're thrilled about the four game offer and and you know lengthening you don't early start to certain seasonal earlier sending. The you know the what we column there. My guess again the prospect. The prospect. So the prospects of the HL little practice more. And those are the products that product is not a good stuff those minor league their parents yeah the stats and he's joking notable the products not gonna suffer. That's it. See that's the key to me in all this with training whether be football whether it be hockey. The products not gonna suffer when they drop the puck in October 9 open the season it's not going to suffer. The product is going to be the same meaning your fans are gonna show up for the opener. They're going to cheer for the team they're going to be against other team it's at the same month a time to train the products not going to stuff. This is not. 1970. No offense to the guys that played in manner they were not paid the money that these guys are so it it is even early before you before that. But still. These they it is their job and their duty to stay in tip top. Pristine form soul. I know. I I think I really do believe that I'm speaking for everybody I'm like just. These guys are ready to play they don't need. Three weeks of camp anymore Peter did beating me three weeks of camp 56 years ago. So all I can imagine now with the way guys are training in how hard they train in and how committed they are year round of their bodies and what they put in in. All of that stuff. They might they might need a week to ten days pops. There's. And then after that after that. After that I think is just over exertion. Well and it could lead to fatigue. Doubt on the road so for the young player who makes his way through camp plays at all. Seven pre season games replacing at home what have you in and closed on the world fatigue and injury factor and all the stuff comes if you start the season earlier. And play you know maybe a game weaker to lake whatever spread it out right as an upgrade every 45 days and give guys time to recover between. Give the guys com. So you don't to jam the mall and after the break and all that stuff goes to college model right place for have a couple workouts here there. We're maybe midway through the season you have a six east team gets a six or seven day gap where they can take three days off to just. You don't mind body and soul you know get a little. And even the broadcast guys can we mean I know the call that the all star break but. Why are we sending our all stars to do more work and get more tired. And that may or may it's a show I don't to show occasionally sort some point those guys are doing their job they need a little time off. Went to our star players get time off throughout the year we don't just Lebow's that it does start as of the star players who have an injury and don't go to meals. And I got to tell you I cannot blame them. Anita Hill. Any guilt for Detroit that's to you know every year these guys again injured last last two minutes of the game that they are up by five. We're gonna audits it is discussion Rick ceiling is going to join us next segment one of eggs or talk about rhetoric. Along with training to all of it I can't wait to hear what he says about training camp because you know what I love this guy's gonna give you the best insight. We area and get direct. Hour to get there riots or is something else for a talk of is three on three in overtime. Because we had a discussion last Friday after the show. Com. So we don't just run out here for the weekend released a two minutes to talk about three and three in overtime and the effective it may have in the scoring race coming up. And Rick cool it gives his thoughts and I felt it worked in the age of what foreign four then three and three civilians seat. Three and three till they get through the four minutes of the foreign four in overtime with the NHL's is going to three on three. Hobbled it Rick's opinions. In a little Duff is coming on and and the reason why get so excited about doppler Carmona for this is because to offer and I over the years. Have had some heated. Battles about the three yards three in the old in the shoot out. He doesn't like it. Oh he loves the shootout yeah I hate it but that's okay because I see his point he just that never wants this in mind. Well we'll see if he stills sees things that way at 1105 axle Rick ceiling here on sabres Akio. I gotta love field. Thank you audience PM music. Great stuff. Andrew Peters here with a goal and a fight in the first period. Look at for the gory how Patrick here in the second probably knock it again and because the news is is the hardest one again. And his goal is just a tap on the side of the net so odds are he mayors in back Collette are gonna do anything. Anywhere their offense is down. Now on for the sector we outside here. Now Rick ceiling we're gonna connect with him in just a moment or two were tucked in first segment about training camp. And pre season and the necessity of it and know how much time do you really. Need and it's you know it's. It's a political and every year of football because players are always the perks in football. Com. In pre season game sometimes in practice in two prominent wide receivers in the league out for the year which Warren east yells well let's just take a. No he's not he's advanced message pirate. All. What's where you calling from. I'm Maggie Rochester. All right. Your brother your brother just got all of edit your rocket won't like it take your car. Well day guilt wolf you know what's odd thanks for jumping off the warm and my brother Wright had to jump on the phone did you tell that you were going into a meeting Oca is now we just tuned in and he knows your flat out liar. No he's not hate. That's in question Korea we're talking about training camp here. Back in the day when you guys to come to camp out of shape. It used to feel different guys in about nine weeks but now all. Guys are such good shape do you think they need there even be camp for three weeks four weeks anymore and eight exhibition games it's just. Skip Britain play couple games few games with the big club and and get right after. Well that the fact that I didn't change you know and and I think the real recent times has changed so much D'Amato might hit into eight. I mean the money we may back then. It's. Doesn't compare I mean I think you'll paroled highest salary probably around the league minimum it today. So you know our our our our hockey and were really our own time do we want it to an end. But these guys now they're under the watchful eyes of the team you have to keep fighting a year they got one stop that's a lot. Mean that the training that they have to do that that testing that they have to do and in my understanding is that that they were there are are. Our trying to break ground on a totally new training regime regiment this year we're further organization from top to bottom. And these guys come and I I think it more GW when they come that you got in the tank and learned that sent them and learned to play together. I if they picked on me that that time together to do that. How many games did you need to get you know in game shape you know gains speed. Where you know you felt. You Bernie where you need to be perform your best. I think back a little on now on the person rather to think that hated hockey. Training camp and breaking in new skate. Ray kept yelling at it's not. Can't itself but that second day at any where your equipment is still wet it's quite heavy and haven't. That at bat product for the second time that you shower clean up. I think I think at least five or six games to get into up to get into the rhythm playing out of you look at. That definitely practice you know the difference between playing a game. I think it men probably five or six games two to get actually where you you're to compete level the other team. You think it's that let's the same for today's player. I I doubt they believe it is because I don't think you can train as hard as you load. And hit it anywhere and again. Double what do wrote guys I I I think that's true for maybe half the team by Pena of the top six or 78 forwards. And your top 45 defenseman. That you don't wanna see them they're so crucial your lineup we don't want to seem getting banged up at just so I'd rather see them play games that matter. Then pace themselves and an exhibition game and let's be honest sodomy I. We we both know guys are you guys are gonna 40000%. Com into a corner for park. When it doesn't when the game that's on the line you know does the human does it matter toward the ultimate prize. Everybody you know I act I think I think that the big thing here I don't think it's a conditioning thing I think rhythm. Is gonna get in rhythm with each other. And that is that what you get in the game that you don't get out of practice. Because this thing goes wrong that you differently immigrants in practice your controlled environment. You know our guys are gonna what what what really attract you know what they're gonna be coming down the weight on you eat all that. But it gained you've got just. To victory on to it that that it just immediately. Known or that is that middle guys gonna go to the net or he's gonna be a trailer. And you have to address and and that Allred and that's what that's like taking shape and I'm looking at the rev up. I'll be able to read up on one other fighting one another and it just all the circumstances. That that creek well your mom dragging. You know what's on I figured out where our wedge lies between us. Here your speak in from the from the management side I was speaking on the player side I know what slurs why they want less doesn't exhibition game side. Could well I've looked at it and expect that it'll if I'm going to is I'm going to a game. I like he did our feet and I don't working and going to game and getting into their game chic during the season. Why you have to bring the fans and it's odd because now you just go win win the argument by leaning on the fans. While the only obvious that you're competing for their entertainment dollar that discretionary dollar and it got to be read in those people come out they promote. Early in the season you know people are gonna stay late in the game early either that or not ready are playing. Now they're not you know what though are gonna stay away from the team at the start of the season went for five of their key stars are injured two and come out of the gate oh and five. I I stickers atomic competition too early on league wide fuel. There's some markets that don't compete against football hate it think it matters take inner squad like exhibition games in a squad like pac latter trying to make the team young kids. Thomas panic. You know an outlook generally. Get to Deng got because he's a fifty million dollar Lehrer bowed to be a fifty million dollar player and he has. Ron from buck for a lot of ice it was from those decent hand actually usable malls shall arise but. You know Stella don't panic as a gas across the forehead for about thirty or forty stitches and it's just got guys trying to make names for themselves I just don't like putting players are star players in position. To get hit. Like that in a game especially when when guys trying to estimate name for themselves and exhibition games but. But they're not playing every game. Well guys I played every game local guys there are organs are strategically put in this is right specific game. They don't play every game and and the end of more more veteran status you Kerry. Does that let you read it the last game you play in a you know that yup. All we know we talked about that the first in the first 25 minutes was that exacting was how. These guys got it don't just come out of the gate and play five straight games there they're staggered in there they won't secure regulars probably won't play. Your first two exhibition games and if they do will be minimal I if they're at home they will maybe but that's the plate yet and that's who writes I'd like. The veteran guys probably won't have to travel tilt toward the end camp either late and that's that's another thing he had the where terror of the drop app that's fair and. Actually met that the coaching job at manage that and she's not the same time all these players you get you guys that are on the on the bubble on that. It showed them where they needed be it they get those extra game and it showed them where they need to be out of work on their game to make the fact that that. So it helps that artwork architecture player but it's also educating. And bring your development. You're younger players they're trying to make it Timor or maybe your future rock I doubt no doubt little wrote all our leader Peter Baker got Carl. Yes so what I write so it just add to that. So what Alec what do you do then when you have I I guess there's always that competition on left wing here and other areas on the team but. What if you have a roster like the sabres have where they really don't have much room for. Guys like you don't to make a surprising com entrance onto the roster. Well you know I there're there are guys on the on the outfit you're you're you're draft picks all your draft pick this year with the exception of one. You are probably talking about the union. I but. It gives them so that when they have to do it and at the last all the speed everything else they have to do and and prepared emperor for next year's training camp. You know what and you got guys that have been in and out of Rochester and then call. Or are you obviously it'll be there you are coming out of junior and they haven't really that much experience at that level you know exhibition game for biting them. That experience. I'll ordinary in Rochester this year they know what they continue to work. Rick ceiling of us here on the AT&T hotline Rick another gonna talk view was about overtime this year in the NH of the go to three and three justified and it's last year HL they want four on four then three on three. The number the numbers show that it reduced the number shoot outs by 12% 40% of the games were decided. You know on the floor on four. But it seemed to work. In defining a winner and getting less shoot outs how do you think you work how did look to you and feel. Well that that that the problem that Pat White. Is. You had to wait for stoppage. Two goal three and three. And got you you start out forms or. And in the right along quite well let on the debate he played the last minute. On three on three. The other question what we never thought I'd I didn't give an alternate home games last year but when you plant tree country. What happened that there's a penalty eagle back or you go really do we ever saw that never saw that market that they're the question we're never ignore our Rick. Never roller. In Rochester last year but. We know it on the back in my mind what happened at a cocktail. But this year the H college aged they're gonna go right at five minute overtime and they're gonna vehicle right reentry. And do you like it did you like it when I was actually three answering. Yeah I did I I like it you know it's. That that there are a lot all right. And that has won your speed player and can get out there and do more damage. I think that's why you saw. The reduction in shoot out would be cut. A lot more right to borrow a lot more freewheeling. This is that these kind of you hope for all of that would stand up and and end and probably have a lot of elevation because. No I when he got off and I all went out there and let body to get around you can do you can do a lot more damage in the. Yeah accurate could you see it like obviously. Do we talk about a lot more ice but I don't think people see enough. Three on three in the NHL really realize. How much more ice there really is odd. Are you got it all they got I don't think there are adequate but what what we did see was a lot of more one on one. You'll see a lot more one on one play or guy we'll try and beat in the golden glow that event and OPEC wanted to let you know on the on the rush. Note that I want to thank you and we'll try to get around him and that they do actually did do you know. That doesn't vote Erica got the equipment the guy going to the net and make a pretty exciting that you don't want one pitched the battle that they have come down on the ice. Let me ask you something what if you being a coach were. Odd going into a three got three situation if you believed you had the right players up front would you go with three forwards who would you ever feel comfortable did you ever see it the American League. I don't think you can't an annual pro. We've yet we get the country country actually we get it three countries and what equipment or they put going that way. On the never stopped treating back and now. Both former yards reform. MP3 oh record on the report and I'm not but these on. Our report I always outweigh. And you see usually that happens when they're in a situation where it would go right down nearly 10 o'clock and out. And that they'll put into regret that the bag on the one. Final thing for a ritzy Elaine you're involved with the women's professionally come and buffalo right. Yes but albeit. Showing their mean higher. That chair co chair of the action on that team and a looking forward to a great great year. You see a lot of the future Olympian in turn Olympian then now. National player got but the level of play they had their game up placed into. Either ignored him and what we thought you wonder where they play Ali Al the other side. What about the junior sabres. Popular black box that element on the keep taking care or are you barker. Are you managing reason general me you're the general manager and you do it anyway let's not at all. Well it's okay that's packs all right. I'm on the court there was a look what Mike Gilbert merit play Aaron in how the media play by play for their webcast. We're pretty I mean Rick how many how many Rick ceilings are the Arthur I mean you get the networks to go the juniors neighbors above do you have some kind of question is that I don't I'm just there's only one. Well it's pretty amazing you can meals places at once. Breakdown so. The great hockey town and then what can you are in and they're glad to be involved with the dollar and a in alternate we will contribute back pocket could well army and act like you're trying to get back that they can. Awesome Rick we appreciate the time. Nice physically. Larry I got that they want. Take ersatz. Rick snarling what this year on sabres hockey now and we come back how many games last year buffalo mean you can look this up but I'll save it the time. And how much will that change through reentry and the Russians got finals idea why next. Where you would think that it is in our training camp and breaking in new gates. Straight can't. Campus itself but that second day at eight where your great. It is still wet and quite heavy in heaven at that site for the second time that you shower cleaned up but I think at least five or six. Gains to get into the rhythm of playing out of you look at. It did change practice you know the difference between playing a game I think it is probably five or six games you get actually where you here to compete level the other teams. Notre chilling last segment witness. In the five to six games. Which deliberately dragging equipment out now a great after his speech and assets I was just focusing on that comment Kevin and you know life such an appreciation for. That America's they didn't have. You know how how light job players now get pampered more more and I'm not saying that I we were pampered when I play as I was very pampered place and so words it was every other player we. We're treated very very well. And I respect and love the guys that played in that era and before because. Of reasons he just said that. That too would those two A day practices. It's what he gear in the afternoon just as you I didn't do it in the NHL we did it in juniors. It was you know it's a grind and. Just a grinder grime grind. Chris and grime involve the nets who. And I can I can relate armour the double sessions high school football and you go morning you'd be in the duke. You go hang your stuff up you come back for that afternoon practice there's no appointment and and it's appear right. And your pants are way in the pants distinct. It put it back and disgusting gross. I would absolutely gross analysis the sincere nerve yes hook. So anyhow I'm also talking about overtime. And a three and three that they're going to do I was clear in and I were. Maybe the first year not if you know. The overtime last year buffalo seventeen games went to a extra time injure. Thirteen went to shoot outs only four were decided in overtime. So looking to increase that number of games being decided in overtime and obviously you hope for Buffalo's favor. Went thirteen to seventeen went to a shootout. Instead of being decided. Well. I've seen regular played its reentry not regular play but. Thirteen boom went to his skills competition. In the shoot some argue that the three and three of his skills competition and Brian Duff was gonna go after the break may argue that also so. Hold onto that lets put a pin and that one on the board real quick to wanna Italian. Remember when Russia walked off the ice. And the world championships. And the other Russians get the Nash Canadian National Anthem for watching that they've been finding Andrew. Wanna guess how much. Elijah just fine Russia. A billion dollars no. No. 85000. Now no way who earn all. While they they might restart because they they they put 53 billion into the Olympics. Yeah and the Russian economies. Right now. Oil but all I'm gonna say is. Yeah 85 grant program. Okay we come back a that's been paid that. And I probably did it by me so it is correct those were his. Russian news. We come back Brian Duff will join us next you'll talk with a three and three and end pre season with into next year its neighbors IPO.