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Itself comprise TO it. Well cup not shield itself government shields I'll jump on GO settled up unsealed that don't jump on GO. I'll go Ponzi elves around coach Baggio stuff always I mean she go. Morningstar Fazio hole on the eighteenth tee hot line this week. Get an update on NFL free agency and sell the morning. Good Howard's off spot today he's on vacation this week she got Matthew we're gonna hit you you're gonna be part of instant trivia and the segment Peyton Manning and the trivia so. Hope you're excited hey quickly on Manning went to the nickname the sheriff become a thing. What's it about four months ago but one that actually become a thing. Yeah I think every member. Like within the last couple years but it was never a big thing until very recently. Cam Newton said it immediately upon winning the NFC. The heat he didn't know what the AFC game and when they told on the broccoli she said our right to share. Richey and Todd need to it's waited a few stories about Manning yesterday calling him the Serafin. And I think it's not a thing I just don't. I don't know that it was widely known until about maybe this year what we are anger when you think about Peyton Manning and what's your ultimate. Memory or what what's your. What's your take away from his career we we started the show talking about how you'll be how you'll remember Manning for me cell. He is the ultimate ease the representation of the just give me quarterback era the game changed while he was in it. You know he he's drafted number one overall he's paired with Ryan leaf we fades away many becomes a hall of Famer wins a tonne. Is thought to have ever really had a great team win them maybe until this year. And winds tonic games I think he was simultaneously the guy that was. You know just give you quarterback and I can win but also on the other side people would say well look at Peyton Manning he hasn't won as much as he probably should you need more than a quarter. Yet to go back to Tennessee when he was in college in the fact that he couldn't win. The big game if you will the national championship you know it was only till after he left they want we don't know that he Maarten in the first a BC last year. But he always got to the Citrus Bowl seemed like you never to go to get over Florida and that stigma stayed with him through the NFL's it to me he represented for so long. That thing that everyone talks about quarterbacks Jeremy the clutch gene right guys who can just do it when the chips are down in key was not that guy there's so many people and sports. Who better like that I think he was the ultimate representative of that until 2006 when he finally won at. A super ball. And yet then ill people still said while he doesn't have as many as the other but it just showed finally that. You know he truly was has as good as everyone thought he would could be eaten when the chips were down but. I think I look back and I think to myself let's think about this today. What you didn't have the best arm in the world I mean it was the grace thrower the ball I would put Dan Marino is up there clearly ahead of him. I heeded he wasn't the most mobile guy we all know that there were some things he wasn't the best that but when you add up everything he was so great that he's still get. 21 of the top five quarterbacks. So about you joining us here on the eighteenth tee how I have the nickname thing OK are you ready I'm ready. This is from SB nation they did a story on this around Super Bowl week. And it is I don't know it it's a specific SB nation site but they say. The nickname first came to prominence in 2009 during Monday Night Football game between the colts and dolphins Jon Gruden first use it saying that meeting quote waist down the law in opposing team's stadium. He continued is the sheriff analogy. By describing how many manipulates his office at the line of scrimmage through saw doubles it was perpetuated by Ron Jaworski who throughout the game continued to refer to many as. The sheriff's app sheriff after it made his garments. All right well good to know the background information on the sheriff. You think giving you could pick from playing a sheriff on like an SNL and SNL skit very very easily. I so so under the bills what what. The timeline for the week how to how to things lay out a no Wednesday's the big David there's actually 4 o'clock today is one tampering as loud is that is that how it sets up. New new entail camps are there was four new noon today for clockwise so as of noon. Other teams can talk to Richey and Todd need oh and tell them tell tell him and his agent. What it is that they're looking for. They cannot talk to Ricky specifically they can only talk to his agent rich he cannot be involved any direct talks which isn't a abnormal anyway usually agents the only one. But they can't fly and and they can't even schedule a visit with Richie. He can't do anything only his agent can actually negotiated deal now here's the thing they've actually loosen. Parameters of what you can do they get actually negotiate the entire contract. Beach starting at noon today not just hey what kind of numbers are we talking they can do it the only thing they can't do this site on the dotted line essentially. What you get scheduled any visits and other like that there's no. It can't be a lot going on at some other city like we had Mario watched that can't happen until 4 o'clock on Wednesday but I'm sure wants 4 o'clock Wednesday comes on comes around. We're all gonna know several of the top reagents and pretty much where they're going. OPEC so I expected by the end of the day today I'm gonna see so and so reports that. Team acts has started negotiating with critique our NATO it could go that far. Yes and less the bills announced beach in the next three hours and 48 minutes. That they have reached a deal with and then obviously that won't matter and I that could happen at any time I'm not saying it will I don't know. There's been a lot of rumblings in Internet chatter over the last few days but I nothing that I completely trust her and her. I think five million dollars per year is probably what he's looking for something in that neighborhood right it's fair for guard money for regarded his talent. Did you think you say that. I think that's well I think he should get probably five to five and a half I think he may be looking for more. Because I look at the numbers and at the top five left guards make. Six million or more if you go to the right guard spot at them and you're talking about another two or three so. He wants top eight guard money let's say he socket you're talking six million dollars a year that if you believe the reports that came out. Few days ago the bills were frustrated by his contract and it that would tell me he would want about that but. I think he should get about five and a half million per year when it's also. Is it it's tough spot to be in sell because this kind of goes to our conversation. Well when we talk about the draft and if they're gonna draft a receiver in the first round I think it's. I think it's a bad idea based on who they are what they wanna beat it wanna be the power run team whether or not you think that's a good idea or not to meek is a different conversation. Like what they wanna be is run the ball play strong defense and play making from Tyrod Taylor right and Sammy Watkins. So the that the team that they are now as they're presently constructed I would say they should absolutely want Richie and target a 100% a top eight guard money because the way they're built he's very very important to the way they're built that said. If they sign him for five years now Rex could be fired in two with things don't work out they get a new quarterback and that they have. A lot of money tied up in a guard who's still good guard but maybe they don't wanna be the run team that they currently are his strength is in the run game as a pulling guard. What they are I do think they need him. Yeah and marketing Greg Roman obviously could get head coaching job Napster for all we know they have a great offseason in which is essentially what you're saying I was safe. I can't see any scenario where he sides really more than three years possibly would like political years against out signing bonuses like they did with Percy Hartman. But even if he's here for three major major army and you don't know what's gonna happen with the offensive coordinator or the head coach there's no doubt. About that he here's the thing I think the bills are also its opposition for another reason and that is. Doug Whaley has stated many times since last year and the offseason last year. This year's about retaining players it's about resigning players. Well we know they're not gonna go out make big deals and free agency we just know that they don't have that kind of money. If he's saying. This year's about retaining players and then out of your top two players need to retain one of them walks I don't I can justify that. Now of course that he wants so much money the team asked this at some point walk away they just can't give him. Seven million dollars a year I think it's ludicrous for the position he plays I get that. But as a top spot or don't really did tell everybody. This year's about retaining players that she's about retaining players were not going to be they get free agency were just retain players. And then your want a guy you need to retain you don't retain and we all know that they're not really gonna go out and make big deals and free agency. Atrial 550 if you wanna join a sell a popular here in the AT&T outline our cell onto courting Glenn the bills placed the franchise tag on him. And should I have been surprised that he signed it I thought that was a place holder for a while there be no rush and they could talk for months and if it looked like they would be decided they would go Glenn wastes no time in and signs the franchise tag. I think it's a great sign it's that great sign because they can still negotiate until July 15. Up until July 15 he can basically signed a long term deal and I think it's ripped up okay July 15 at neglected to help plan that so that's all that is it's it's a good faith gesture I think. On his part to say yep I'm here and if we don't get a thing done by July 15 don't worry about I'm not holding out this is. At a jeers birds like that's why wouldn't Gerris bird just on the same thing QB because he didn't believe he would get a long term deal done. That's correct and he wanted to franchise tag he wanted the ability. To be a free agent and negotiate with the bills and other teams essentially. A long term deal and really all that franchise tag it was not allow him to negotiate with other teams. I'd figures birds just wanted to. Get free agency in Everett church or spurt that was a pro football player he's a pro football coach I think. That side of it the business side and being a free agent testing your market value was important to him. Obviously with courting announcing it's not important that he feels like pay. I think this is a sign that I'm okay playing in buffalo and I am here first you know four more months trying to work something out on our. 8030550. What else shall we expect the next. Few hours a cell leading up to noon and then from noon until the it's the start of the open. Term on the open part of free agency. Well I think you're gonna start to get obviously a lot of reports starting at noon about big free agents where they may be going visiting things like that we'll see. Which teams are gonna be major players do you note Jeremy let me ask you know how much money the Jacksonville Jaguars have in caps they talk much money there I don't. 88 million dollars. Or 88 million dollars to spend on there. They can do pretty much anything they want and that's one of the reasons that their interest in Mario Williams reports by the jags are one of the teams that are trying to. Gave him in for a visit to talk him why is his situation different. Because he is a street freeagent idle boast listeners understand this noticed that for those who don't. If a player was caught if he was released Mario Williams Leodis McKelvin Antonio Cromartie. They can sign right now as I'm talking they could have signed yesterday they are free to sign. With any team because they were under contract with the team said you're no longer under Patrick were releasing. However if a player was under contract through last year. But its contract expired at the end of last year. He has to wait until 4 PM Wednesday until the new league year he is essentially under contract the bills or any other team. Until 4 PM Wednesday are aliens was released he's gonna Miami visited them boy I don't know they've had so much money tied up that the line. I don't know how they would be able to fit and then considering what they want to do but I you know they wanna be aggressive Miami again this year that's why partly by the restructured and immigrants whose contract. Then he went to the giants. Visiting them I don't even know he still there they desperately need pass rush help I think it will be a great scheme wise. What they want and what they eat but I don't know about him playing in the New York's market researcher. At Jacksonville makes sense you know I mean that's a team that's could use some help on the defensive line. I'm never got to Pollard got hurt his ACL first day of practice last year they drafted him to be an add pressure for them but that's why his situation is different. Percy Hartman is not a street freeagent. His contract voided. Which all that meant was he still under contract for two more days of the bills and then he becomes a free agent as well on Wednesday. Settle for we get instant trivia Manning related here. Some reporter over the weekend that Brock DOS Weiler was offered by the Broncos three years for 45 million. For contract he's a free agent should we be watching Brock oss Wyler and what he gets as it relates to a potential extension for Tyrod Taylor. I absolutely right I mean you would think so here's a guy that you know doesn't have very much experience very limited as a starter might. The team is showing faith in him as the long term guy because of the little bit that he showed. And there are a tough situation there even more than the bills are because he had they have to opera contract right now but look I mean if if Taylor goes out there next year in. Even after 67 games starts deeply really well we're talking north of that money probably that brought us hollered out for them to ultimately sign. Tyrod Taylor but yeah absolutely mad and then you know you look at Sam Bradford hit in his extension as well I think all of these guys. Are setting the market right now I don't think Flacco really factors into this you know you're talking about a a Super Bowl winning quarterback who. Is adding onto a deal that he he had just a couple of years ago but I think Bradford. An oss Weiler pressure or that you guys you're gonna kinda wanna look at and say where we would Tyrod Taylor here's this thing goes forward. All right so you made its instant trivia and stand trivia patent all right if you haven't heard is retiring in areas are. Through a lot of touchdowns and no career. He threw 277. Touchdowns and home. 262. On the road clearly can't play on the road 460. On Sundays. 41 on Thursdays at 38 on Monday. In the first quarter a 1142. Alright are right out OK I'm just gonna keep going please stop. From football reference dot com. The ten players he threw the most. Touchdowns. Against and by the way there is most touchdowns to a two sorry I was just looking at against he threw the most touchdowns against the Texans Kagan. Great job seldom ten players who have called the most touchdown passes. From Peyton Manning and that's what better can I get that number for those like that tackled yet logo at ten most has only thirteen thirteen is in outlook yet you know so I was thinking about this I. He would have. Two major big targets in Indy and he's got in his time in Denver was long enough where. I think there's a couple of Denver guys here too so I'll start off Marvin Harrison is the easy answer 112 is number one all time. I'll say Reggie Wayne that's correct number to 67. To Marius Thomas number 436. To like the drop off from yet. Look at us like Dallas Clark 44 he is number three. Julius Thomas was number 44 while he was. Number six Julius bombs this number five via 24. I am at saint Pierre or sought Pierre Garcon is incorrect Laura attend. Okay Emanuel Sanders annual Sanders last journalist he's tent with thirteen okay. Sell the TY Hilton go back enough for the colts I don't think I mean he did. I don't I don't believe I do have another one I'm ready wait yeah all let me out. Trying to think how many Regina would because he. Yeah jointly running back I don't think I'd that you threw a lot to running back Edgerrin James is twelve finalists were allowed eleven just outside. All right so no TY Hilton little Brandon Stokley ran it so please correct the key is. Eight analyst okay. You like this tight and I am tackle Marcus Pollard that is for a jobs actually go to war that's why couldn't think about attorneys that he let the other tide and the free Alice are fed OK you're missing. One good wide receiver. And one guy if you get it I'll give you able some some cash. I beats on. Good wide receiver. Who lives at wide receiver. Got paid it free agency well. Eric Decker that's correct yes there adequate warning for or missing only know her number nine with fifteen touchdowns. No chance now almost no chance that you can go out gimme some bio don't even give me I'll yet get let us try and pull dispersed. Sell Austin Collie. She got on our. 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Howard's on vacation this week chairman light with Matthew collar here as Celtic folk calls its eight ending. Where is Peyton Manning's stack up in the out pantheon of NFL quarterbacks you put a number one all time India. Have a problem with him as the number one Guile time. Yeah he's always linked Tom Brady and when you think about. They're supporting casts many pointing out that Manning had a better supporting cast with whether it's Reggie Wayne Marvin Harrison. Advocates in part because of Manningham and Peyton Manning makes those receivers great we just ran down that list. There's Harrison and Wayne and then and to Mary's Thomas is a nice nice receiver you've got Julius Thomas would agree career in Denver and and went to Jacksonville but. You know Manning made the list of Austin Collie played 49 games and had thirteen touchdowns or ever was so he made players great. On how good he was Brady did the same. The teams operated differently that the patriots. You know they do move on from players they Brady is done it with. What's well Kirk. Julian Edelman Randy Moss was the back in when he of the best receiver he was a vast. Outside of those three wood that David Patten. One. Brady's probably had a worse I have the lists for you later now on don't wanna start naming these probably had a worse supporting cast offensively. But may be a better. Defensive. Performance I don't know he's got. He's got the coach. Yeah that's what it comes down to it's got the coach and it's got to cheat and I don't wanna focus too much on the cheating because that just becomes obnoxious. Right to boot cheated soon right I mean I'm sure that they were the only team to ever spy on the other team's stuff or steal. Play books or mess with communication right I couldn't have been. I think there were probably a lot of teams doing it they're the ones that got caught or were the most egregious but to act like everybody else is just Chinese squeaky clean. And it's in very very doubtful it's like when you talk about the the home run hitters Barry Bonds I'm sure bonds is the only one doing it or what he just the best that it. And had the most six. That guy that's on top is the woman you're trying to take out right me you know you go for the king and you go forgot the does that the best look it's got it does get a little bit. How much credit do you give Brady for his ability to breed defense it's kind of like it's always a Manning thing. It's always pay all things are the fences and all that I Gary praise them apart a ton. A ton of credit for I think he's coaches given credit for that but I think it's just as much him no I I agree with that they are able to identify and he's able to move. Know what he's gonna do when. That mean the bills this year they they knew with a ball was going to can't stop it he's. That good that if you're gonna take away this he's gonna it's gonna take that and here's one thing that sun was sent to me it's an inch to note. Rex Ryan defense has defeated both Manning and Brady in the playoffs. Just gonna put that over here but did wrecks have quote a minority generally Matthew put that over here that he talk we're not gonna talk about that right now Wear helmets and none of it make any gels you know it's it's that's over the and it's it's just something that happened one time it doesn't mean that's just. The thing how is it. Brady and the coach Belichick is that Belichick had Brady. For such a long time pretty much his whole career in New England. That there's no way to separate that there's no way to say other than the Matt Cassel year. And what they go ten and six they missed the playoffs but there's almost no way to say. How Belichick would do if he didn't have Brady or how Brady would do if he didn't have Bellic Jack. Because they were there together for the whole career would be like saying how would Michael Jordan do without Scottie Pippen when I have no idea they had each other for their entire career. Sometimes we do that we will take away. Someone success because they had other successful people you know Phil Jackson's the same Michael Jackson will woody do without great players rallies. Whenever he wins with great players and applauding Isaak agree players. And and don't win also the team with great players at the want him as the coach Nigel Quenneville right joke Wendell is he always a good coach Jersey veteran Chicago. And you know he's probably always good coach at half that helps to have the best possible players. And with the Manning we know for sure. It's Manning he had different coaches different coordinators. All sorts of different wide receivers defense is personnel and just all the time. Leaded up twelve wins guaranteed almost every of his career double digit wins and and it didn't he just made whatever offensive coordinator he had look like Eugene. Quick text that I think is work. Work discussing. The NFL will be a run first league from 27 team going forward why because all these teams have been drafting smaller. More athletic. A defensive back type players on defense smaller athletes you're not. Stopping Iran you're stopping the pass strong athletic offensively but the lineman of the niners 12013 and their Super Bowl run. Very little like the point detectors making him charm no partially through this is that. The back and forth of the league Manning's career. Spanned the most prolific passing era in league history he goes out in one of his worst years in one of the worst years. That a Super Bowl winning quarterback has ever had. But I think Manning I think he is the aero and he might even be a part of the reason the Errol went the way that it did is many starts throwing touchdowns has these incredible years year by year. They protect the quarterbacks had the court protects the quarterback's knees intentional grounding it's almost impossible to ground football potentially even though in court next to all the time. The receivers can't be hit anymore Seaver can't be helped her pick everything has gone the way of the passing game. And that's resulted in. Teams having to draft differently and get their defense is to play against the pass and it has also led to. A number of teams trying to go out and solve all their problems by drafting a quarterback maybe you're the bills and yet ripe it's Patrick do you think. That's not good enough we need a better one. Can you blame the bills for saying that a lot of teams have said that. To be Manning has been that era that's who he is and for him to go out. After having a bad year with a defense wins the championship which is in on not always how it's spent. I image to see how that plays in the next like 510 years will league ever kind of snapped back to. Well this team runs the ball so well and no one can stop them because they've all built to stop passing games. And if your bill to stop passing game so well. Which can't stop the run well you're in trouble. Think they're running games would have to get significantly better while I'm not necessarily better think out think about the year that the bills and patriots played. I know which one of the losses and talk about. Brandon Bolden ramp from 200 yards because the bills they once that's defense I think I open them mixing years. There are all set to stop Brady were ready is based defense to stop Brady but they're just gonna run it and your base can't stop the run because your base is built to stop Brady. And then if you stop the run than Brady you pick. The passing game has gone such a dip in such a correction taken league and so instruction. We wanted a 4000 yard passers and all except Marino are current and far I guess. Ehrlich moderate Eric current players of the last five to ten years Rogers reverse Brady Brees Manning. It's passing league more than ever before and I'd I really do not think. That it will snapped back I know there will be teams that go against that I think the bills are going to be one of them it's gonna try and win it the other way. Which is possible one of the things you can do give yourself an advantage is play a style that all the people don't see whether it's sun. You know playing Preston basketball playing the 23 zone you know you're able to throw something at a team that they don't see. In single game formats you can. Knock off Goliath it's David vs a life changed the game and maybe change or outcome. It's a team that runs the ball might be able to do that but I don't see it taking over the league as a whole. The way the passing it. It's a lot like the three pointers and the reason that teams started to shoot all three pointers was points for possession they started to run the numbers and said. Why are we only need thirty whatever 5%. If we shot a three every single time we would score more points per possession. And our current percentage then wiest if we shoot a high percentage of two is just working out the math. And I don't think it'll ever go back. It'll be more emphasis on mediocre players all around who can shoot a lot of threes teams try to stack up with three point shooters they'll take they'll set records. All the time every year because it's simply a smarter play and when it comes to yards per play. For the NFL you're talking about an average of about six. And a half to seven yards per play for past and for. Four run. And it was just never be a smarter player to run the ball rather than pass except for when you're trying to kill the clock. At the end of the game or something like that a pound of ground and pound the team out so maybe there are games here in the air but as I'm a bigger hole for Ty about the entire league. It's it's gonna say it would pass. I can't say it'll never be a smarter play because if you have the personnel. To do it and they don't have the personnel to stop it like for the bills. And I in this is actually good conversation for maybe tomorrow or maybe you know the whole offseason is it better for the bills to pass it then run it. Maybe Tyrod Taylor's a good player but if they if they mix their run pass ratio from 6535. Run to pass to. 3565. Runner past. You might not see the same success they might have more points per play in the passing game because of the wrong and football. You know as much as. It's a complicated game and a simple game at the same type but there are so many levels of complexity in game planning and strategy. That changing who you are entirely then change the way the teams defend you when changer matchup so I don't think it's as easy saying. Passing is always better on it it's more likely but it it will depend on your matchup your personnel and I don't that the skill of your players and ball. And the thing that. Taxpayer TU is talking about. A shift change. In the entire league and that's that's what I'm talk yeah I don't think that's I don't think it's gonna happen in general you want to be throwing the Baltimore successful play it right all that doesn't mean that another team it's terrible stopping the run the deal ever wanna run against. Here's a question I wanna get back. Peyton Manning will leave avoid. Who will fill I don't aim Brock costs Weiler a mean another NFL quarterback I think has to step into this spot. When it comes to television. We'll explain when I mean when we get back and how could the bills maybe step in a part of that spot. You know whether to file we heard it was working determinations. You know even if we wanna game. You know as you have poured your path in my head on his nerves even. That was fine but in the debate we always look forward to next week that we haven't yet harbor about ourselves that that was sort of see the bond spreads you have to. Marvin Harrison on playing with. Peyton Manning. Harrison has had that little flap with Terrell Owens. About the hall of fame I don't know if you've followed this exactly but little bit he kinda swore a few times about he doesn't really care about Terrell Owens. It seemed to be on prompted. This is the first. Little head butting its involve the hall of Famer member weigh in Warren Sapp said he didn't think Michael Strahan belonged in his first ballot now. You know it's it is interesting that there's this there's proof of how competitive. Some of these guys are you're already in. And they let someone else that you take at a picnic Kashmir people. You think once you give that jacket. You're just you're good you know you got to worry about it you ban a 100%. Verified. Times a million and an island somebody else on the club and you say. That's. See it Strahan now. Can we could win I don't wanna be next to him and I don't think he's as good as me. So let's let's go up first timers wing we do that. John Clayton I heard talking over the weekend about this talking about Terrell Owens and the case that was made it good teams couldn't wait to get rid of him. And that that's I guess that that's how they applied. Off the field affected on the field stuff for Terrell Owens. He's going to gain the just don't let him be a first timer nearly 21 ballot hall of famers that receiver. As it. So. Is anybody else can be a first ballot Randy Moss. I think Randy Moss well he had the same stuff that teel had horse in the patriots got rid of them and the vikings got rid of the same stuff it's I Randy Moss weird but I think it's looked at a little differently. I don't know why I think maybe because Randy Moss. Britney must didn't have as many. Self created shenanigans. His worst sort of like. And this guy if you watch the thirty for thirty had a really tough upbringing and things weren't easy for him and he was. Really emotional player and that probably caused him to. But heads and have some difficulty sometimes. But with all wins it was I think what was really off putting was just. The Mimi mean. Could try gave like celebrations contrived celebrity all that sort of thing that puts people off I mean I look at it is the guy put up the numbers to be in the hall of fame. But I think that's the difference between moss and now it's. Harrison is a bit of. They're both the full quote from him on terror allowances quote if he didn't get in that's his problem he can talk all that other bully like he's been doing that on him. I'm in my jacket is gold. So he can get his bleak and whenever he gets in if he gets in if he doesn't get into bad the hell with them. Anybody is the key 85 years old right Arial so I don't care about him the hell with them. Are right. Also Marvin Harrison like involved in a club shooting. I don't know it's I mean to Syracuse grad he's not asylum he's not perfect either and what talk about. Being born on through a silver platter of wide receivers here's Peyton Manning to play. Here's the earlier touched yes. It'll 30550. OK Matthew is a piece up on our website switch switch gears totaled about hockey here. A decent website the nine star wingers you'll heard of these players it's not you know it's random folks and that could play on Jack Michael's wing and they are not just grabbed out of thin air it's all based on reports and cap possibilities and they're all busts too should be pointed out these guys overall mosques. So it's that Jack cycle is game on Saturday was tremendous talk about Michael and Ryan arts performance on Saturday against Minnesota. Michael would start in the shoot out as well on but Matthew's list of the nine star wingers ranked by likelihood. He's some big names so he should play next the number fifteen for the next however many years that's next.