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Beyond Sports Radio 550. But no player I can be much youth this year and. You put a timeframe on his shoulder pulled breakaway and the work Garnett. So it's it's certainly over questionable I am. It's a pathetic to know about it but I know what my actual that was bad. The player out who we like George that the odds are simply no racial that was bad. But that they don't want accurate at all. And I like Doug we alien rights is they seem like really nice yeah raising guys. That they brigade that was why they it was a code but. And Doug Whaley seemed huge terrible I would fire him I would have been general manager comment prior ray because. I think he McBride is just very mediocre at opening day if but it whatever as the market. The last fortress for marketing at war and number one draft pick and the feel from our own team. It's not always I mean you know. Welcome back I went when you put it like him thought. You know what happened when I'm what I miss is that is that this job. I wish I drank. You don't not relocate buck anymore now no cup okay Chardonnay nom lightly and I never did Coptic sharp let's not make it worse than it is you know. I I wish I have like a giant Long Island iced tea here with this morning. Rice I've been following the Shaq loss in Sammy Watkins injuries from. All fall. I knew it was happening now a new buffalo sports was. I'll just say this I think there's a good chunk of fans and I'm one of these and you might be one of these two. That when the news came out it was Monday right money bull these things come out today Wednesday yes yes because they think the bills even tweeted. AGF of all Monday in a person falling and on their face I'll men Monday's. I think. The thing we know how to do best is say. All my god work Kirsten nothing can ever gold right. And of course this is the bills this is our lives someone kill me now. If the thing that we're really good at playoff streak it's it's do you bring it right you brought this up before I called yet tweeted about ethnic. Stupid playoff streak everything. That ruins everything everything I just. Anything that is remotely. Negative in news. Spirals. And mutt rooms like the atomic bomb cloud goes off because of the free can playoff streak. I'm I mean I mean I'm Matthew. And a good place just there wasn't any good mood yesterday show his hand on OK fine. It was 50 what it was not like bills football Monday after a loss levels show I was fine I should get a good mood the Mets beat the that's last night. Cindy garb look great they beat scherzer. I should be in a marvelous voting and I am so like depressed. Well. When it comes to crack in the playoff streak is everything right. Loss and injury and might be tough to kind of get a feel for because. All right so he's gonna miss after the season five games but we look at it be five to penises penises five months. That's five games 56 games so what does he do between now and then what does he able to do deceit dizzy gay. The famous mental rep as a reps he's getting at the mental reps can he do like. Tried. I am well the shoulder but that's too much motion with a shoulder. Ride a bike yeah ride a bike and lift weights lower body and what what is he going to be able to do is that I think that that does matter. How much loss and be able to do. Okay this is 56 weeks let's say it's five does that mean week six he's plug and play. Whaley did say was a day one starter so he's a day one starter is it day one starter starter coming off of shoulder surgery I don't think so I think they went starter if he's got routier's training camp pre season and all prepped right to learn a lot of stuff that he's gonna have to figure out OK so now. How many weeks to get up to full speed two or three. OK so football game shape yet so we talk in half of his first season is going to be missed in an obvious but he will be ineffective and then the second half of the season will be hoping he can comments sparked the defense yet they thought I mean I don't know how come you know how many what percent to snaps they anticipated him getting from day one. But I wouldn't think he's gonna get that percentage coming off the injury right away they would have to gradually work him up to that level tech. The way to get this what's that mean for the what's it mean for the team really now what what kind of expectation. Dropped him is there and do people. And right now Sammy supposed to be ready for opening day that's the wanna see that concerns me much more I watch and won concerns me that we talked about yet a lot so much more important to this team right now he's more important and this is supposed to be Tyrod year. Where. Everything's on Tyrod side it's not gonna be a three horse competition anymore it's gonna be Tyrod Taylor with a full offense and now the entire pre season in the entire building of the team through the off season happens. Without Sammy Watkins. Which part of that is a real concern and the other part of that I wanna say but they're gonna run it'll time it. In all so I am much more concerned about the Sammy watched in story and and that injury however that have been. Watkins. I got a couple of tweets and emails while I was gone about his. Durum Billy and availability and audio cliches of the best ability is. Availability. And if he continues to give. Well bumps and bruises sometimes it's the head coach's fault because he plays in the final pre season game against Reid said. Other times insurance random bad block I don't know what he's supposed to do differently but I do final but the Watkins. Injury to be much more. I guess a more affected by that let's scares me more the good news is by all accounts he's supposed to be ready by opening day. Now read stories this morning about the things bulls yes this Jones fracture that Julien element had Kevin Durant had it Dez Bryant had it. And the key is don't rush the guy back. So given plenty arrest now don't claim in the final pre season right now I borrow right maybe that goes to Adam chapters tweet like chapters chapter reported that he thought lock ins would miss the entire pre season and maybe that's in part because if that's the injury. The the treatment further the response is usually don't rush the guy back because you can risk another surgery. Supposedly there's a 20% chance of the second surgery when you have this injury there was no need to push him back too early. So I I think look that the probable this is what it's you know what it leads to and I said. It wasn't a bad day yesterday sounds like the afternoon guys had it worse than we did. The yesterday I think more the anger was directed at either way Lee or the medical staff. You know it wasn't like the guy called that Matthew played in the open was an afternoon show collar. You know we get people not happy with Whaley but the idea of what do you know if if you're upset we gonna do. We do wish they took a different player at nation at taken Jaron read or they should have taken Paxton lanes and they should have taken whoever. We all the pact. Then that then the guy hurt his shoulder right everybody loved the pick. Great draft top three picks defense edge rusher interior guy linebacker OK with him and he's got an injury might miss by gains ate the pet what do you until then. I just don't get like that's why blame the playoff streak it's still a good pick. He gets to apply after he comes back from the injury so if your the thing that I don't understand is this is embarrassing it the black guy and the bills. This is bad that's bad this is bad anybody wanna change the picnic and the good guys and apply. And Watkins. Knock on wood is playing on opening I I'd rather him be here in the offseason I'm trying to say. It's not an issue we talked about a lot yesterday Jeremy and and I agree. If you block and injury is far more troubling for me I won about their practice in the OTA's and training camp and working with him with. Tyrod Taylor now we can't for the second straight year those two guys are gonna worked until the football season which is troubling for me but it's it's. Three can you know fire that the medical staff fire Whaley had summoned him in an after the fire Willie of that guy fire Rex you know number one picks not on the field. What do we make this pick for what are we doing we have no idea what I just cannot take it's a lot it's the it's just. It's too much. It's just sucking my soul outlets and I just everybody has to just bomb the heck down. Leon noted Jones fracturing is. That Watkins might have. A fracture in the men at that Vizio junction of the fifth meta parcel of the foot I knew that the proxy all and of the meta parcel with the Jones fracture occurs is near the mid portion of the fought. On the fifth ranked. Of which the fifth hole belongs to sounds like an outside. Mittal Mittal put the right there of its four. If you do wanna take the pick back I think it'll take the bill would have if someone thinks if only we would have taken fill in the blank guy. I don't say that about Lawson meaning he's not going to be good the only spot where you say this if you would. Deep down say on I was treated to the takeover and is if you had taken the quarterback because that you'd say. Part of the president's not gonna play this year are linebacker he's not gonna play this year. Right that I'm less concerned about getting a guy that isn't gonna play right away and might make my team better long term if Taylor doesn't pan out the fact that watt teens is her. And that. Losses for. And you're dropping your expectations why are you dropping your expectations. We have a 25 million dollar 23 million dollar quarterback but this is. And and I say a perfect scenario it's obviously terrible sinner but. This is what Taylor passed the deal. If you want that job if you want that money. You've got to be so good that these injuries do not stop you from taking a team in the playoffs this team has more than enough talent to make it. And I know their quarterback was pretty good last year but if he wants to be that big money guy. Granted Oslo -- money he wants to be that guy then a major injury comes up against what. Don't worry about it I'll be fine but the problem is I don't feel that way I don't know I know people do opera to fill an and I don't either but the other part of this for me about loss and injury. We spent so much of the draft talking about. Miles Jack. And Jalen Smith in two guys that came with major red flags in both of them were given. What first round grades but pushed back a little bit because of their injuries if the bills had taken miles Jack 190 Reeves said. Well supposed to beat rescue peck. It's a risky pick pre supposed to be a great player they got the talent so let's just hold our breath that the entry if they take Jalen Smith in the second round what are we sect and allowing you to miss a lot of time but what he's back he's gonna be worth it. What does Shaq Lawson you know the the bills say the medical staff cleared him and any aggravates it or whatever at training camp and yes to answer okay. What is the level of injury he has right now pre surgery since his surgery last night. At the come by and that's revealed and it's well check Lawson first round talent but he's gonna miss the first five games of the season. The bills not taken their. That that's what I wanna know about draft strategy because the jail and Smith. And the miles Jack conversations led Salma needn't talk the talk about yet what do you do when you know there's an injury the bills knew there was an injury. Maybe day. Is that Bragman there in the hope loss and somehow slips that they're OK tech may be and maybe that works out that way maybe they take Lawson anyway. Maybe. Maybe I didn't as silly lie maybe they just guessed wrong or they were wrong and they thought it'll hold up in the offseason will get it done that Lawson had been playing with a right. Yeah I mean it's not like this is something he couldn't of played with he has been playing with a so are right let's let's pretend instead of the injury just happening that it happened at the come by or you or he aggravated at the com or anywhere. Would you want the bills. To take him and move him further down the board because he might miss five to six games. I would I would have been less enthusiastic about pick you tell me hey we're gonna get this guy able to get to wait. Happy maybe happy year music and then you know then how productive easier one because she's now missing OT the entire offseason. And he's not do anything until. Somewhere in October. Click the McGahee picked. McGahee was going to be haze tailed as incredible what he's not playing right away he needs time to get ready Indians of meaning like four I or I wanted the first Ollie. I shouldn't say I want the first beat the other field right away because I would have been fine if they took a quarterback but having not take it if you're gonna tell me were taken somebody on defense with that first peck but I will tell you I want that guy on the field on day one. And then when they take lots and here's Doug was saying hey man let's get off the boss this guy's starting right. That's exactly I'm good with that in tech quarterback fine I'll deal with it you gotta guy's gonna start right away and defense beautiful. But I think luck if that. If they took let's say it took the quarterback let's say they were worried about loss and ginger although the price would have taken different defense to play but it's it's a quarterback. We would take and play a call from people rip and Doug witnessing what you do when he's trying to make their playoff disguise not gonna what he's sixteen. You guys we it would roasted for that yet. Absolutely for those that wanna win now on the bills are descended on all in well right now they're approaching all out with injury but this typical volley and okay and I I can support that I can understand that the drought makes you say all in the make the playoffs once things that drives you say that. For for the Lawson thing it's just about. Timing and when I say what I want my team the knock him down the board. If this seems rework it no if you knew I would have approached a draft differently if I knew he was going to be and I think he probably would have because that's just how the draft works I don't. I think the draft is quite imperfect it's not a great system. Actions isn't a system but what I mean is the way it's evaluated is where can you get a guy now how good -- but if you draft Dwight Freeney with the eleventh pick. He ends up going. And having a hall of fame career. You could still say he was over drafted because you could have later on sandy watch means the draft is kind of a a knock against Watkins because he can have a whole fame career and if O'Dell Beckham does too. And I get to say you overpay for Sammy Watkins. So that. Draft stock it's tied to the player pretty much for the rest of his career as skies a first round pick he's supposed to be contributing right Darby will forever be. A really nice fine in the second round where Gilmore will have to live up to top ten talent right so you're always tied to that it's always gonna like beat this thing for you. And I I guess. The way the draft works if you knew about the injury you would say. You hold off on that guy you draft them later right. You would like you could reversed what she did draft a guy at nineteen who you know it's going to play from day one and then if you like Lawson. As you slip through round one does he get into around Q does he make the 49 if not you move up did you do the same thing they did yeah starting Thursday night here on the phone with everybody from like 28 on. And of trying to move up and to be a lot like him again here where they take me gay team people say pocket integrity and stick calculus Kelsey and unity Kelsey in the second round. The way the draft works I get it and the criticism about it is. Justified if you wanna if you wanna go that route but when it comes to having the guy on your team. He's gonna miss 56 games that happens all the time in a lot of guys missed this time in missed games this year with the injury or with whatever and there's a very that one of the toughest discussions I think for us to have. Is about injury prone availability. Tyrod miss two games this year right. If Tyrod misses three games this coming year. Does injury prone become a conversation I think actually it's part of the conversation if he's going to be looking for twenty million dollars a year we've gone through two years he's missed five games yet surety and Watkins. I think the injury prone it's already got a beyond that we heard it every year at every year that he's played. We have heard. Guys he would just get healthy geez if he could just play healthy. Well now supposedly. According to one story yesterday played through stress fractures in the last after the season lectured I was still really productive and Rex Hussein over over towards the end of the season. He would drop little hints like if we can get this guy. Healthy. Well. Kenya yeah I don't know. That's the toughest conversation for I think anyone to have all spans GM's. What do you do. Is he gonna be healthy is he going to be OK I I don't know but the we've got the newest the newest analytic who got the newest medical staff we've got the newest. You know if we have hamstring massages at 12:32 AM because we've found that it helps them we've got soft tissue seminars we. And then he slips and falls staff curry slip on a wet court in Houston. What do or are supposed to do about that and yet now he's got a little bit the injury prone conversation yet. It's difficult to needle 30550. The thing that I guess that would for that frustrates me in this discussion is. Now. What do we see that the Monday after the draft you and I spent four hours sitting and talking about how. Are are sure that's right because those fans are happy with the draft. Like it was we've done how many got what we've been to will be together twelve years in November. So we've done a lot of post draft shows. And neither one of us could remember. This number of bills fans being happy with the draft. So what frustrates me is you'll love the draft delight what they did. We know we talk about the they have taken a quarterback early and got a lot of you would go guys. So they go defense they get there are three guys. A flyer on a quarterback. Okay. The first pick they got as shoulder surgery. He's not opera's career yet to miss five maybe five games in its first season and all of a sudden. I had a GN. So that's what frustrates me and of course this goes back that we hate everything because that made perhaps the sixteen years but if you love the draft. And all of a sudden the guys injured. And and I know why I'll get to the next layer of this but all of us out of his odd games how do you go by lot the draft to. He's missing five games fire the GM we get this organization is just as functional it's too it's frustrating for me to understand that. And I think I I I know it goes to people thought they were lied to and when you when you feel like you get angry. And you get angry you take it out on somebody in this case it's either Doug Whaley and or the medical staff so I get that. But Matt and I talked about this Jeremy can give me your thoughts on that. One thing I think Mueller and I'm not trying to do that you know we're in the business we know more we don't I'm I'm clueless for the most part. But one thing you'll learn by being in this businesses. I'd stop all time. So maybe the medical staff did know his shoulder was going to be a problem. The stock concurrent stuff that probably thought he get through the year or right maybe they believed what she after reported chapter reported denied the draft. That there're a number of teams who felt he was going to need surgery. After his rookie season right maybe the bills were one of those teams they thought yup there's an issue with the shoulder. Said well we've cleared them he doesn't need surgery right now let's that they did a medical check what would that it combine it there medical's in February right now. He can play. But down the road yet we think that shoulder is gonna need to be taken care at some point right now we clear him he's fine. Okay the bills that got a cable draft. That he doesn't swim move it rookie mini camp and true to shoulder up now he's got to get surgery think about how awesome that swim move to bust the better got to be a powerful that a vicious moved its limo arsenal hard core he throws his arm out of socket right. So I understand that you're angry but I'm not angry because teams just wish that stuff. You know beepers and why not on draft night what isn't that where he's at and oh yeah we think he's gonna need surgery at some point because we don't share medical information like that. They clamp up and keep that stuff to themselves so I. I I'm frustrate because the guys not playing I would reverse the pick. I don't fire my GM. I don't think the world's falling apart it's just we get hired and where angry because his team never makes the in any time we start to feel about the built up. Right if anything start field said. Something that. Happens and we all get angry about it how it occurred after I can't wait for the season. You get shoulders are. I made it's it. It's very rafter I'm. I can't hide but it's it's excellent. News. That's one. 305 welcome back 83515. Join us 8885 that you know that picture you tweet out of the beach scene wherever you work there's traffic. Can you send it to me wanna put my phone right applicants they're out of area open in a better spot. 80305 dipped to join us 888550. To 550 would give him a break and we'll get your golf that's folks on old. And we will talk to you give them a chance to give our discussion yesterday and join us. I did a follow up to me is we spent more time yesterday talking about. The injuries and whether people were angry at Doug Whaley. Matthews Twitter poll. And our WGR web we're basically the same thing the injuries make you lower your expectations for the season. Did you ever checked the results which would appall Matthews unease percent to 77 OK that I looked at the web poll this morning the GR web poll 2000 votes. And it was like 75 point five Seve 5% lowering their expectations for the season. Wanna talk about that older more and everybody today because both polls are so resoundingly. Yes. 80305. Dipped to join us 888550. Q 552 calls we get back on WG. Kelly you GR Sports Radio 550 and WG ER 515 dot com. My Western Conference finals in the NHL sharks for nothing over the blues Martin Jones turned back 26 shots nets series is tied at one game apiece. The penguins lightning and about a game three tonight with the series tied. At 11 NBA it is a rout in game one for the Cleveland Cavaliers over drop all the other actors. Seven to nothing and actor in the game after it was over right game cute tonight Oklahoma City at Golden State. NBA held its draft lottery last night. The exact port nothing changed not a team moved in the entire lottery. Philadelphia gets the first pick followed by the lakers and in the Boston Celtics with the third I think it was affects you seem to tumbled and tumbled tweeting rooted out regulations of the sixers four hours before the lottery was held and again with double play for every team in the NBA writes I guess. It's not that much of a conspiracy to to do the finger wag at the lake and not lakers had to be happy they kept their panic if it was outside the top three lakers didn't galactic which is. And it's a pretty big drop off bills news there's nothing bad today. That's a no no bad news today for the bills they signed third round pick and all this Washington who goes by all which makes him awesome. And uncheck Lawson missed 56 games Greg Johnston Europe under the TBW he says that's the time monies for resources. Local high school scene in the Lancaster. Legends the two. Spots open on the school board and there were candidates running to make Lancaster. Go back to the other thing are. It anyway. Handles those who lost soul legends is markets and can stop talking about that now and you know talk about the importance of school baseball last night Mets opened up the series with the that fifth and to guard out tools scherzer so the Mets won yankees lost to Arizona. The jays gave up double digit runs for the second straight night and getting hammered. Don't the best thing to happen to the jays club is gone with Batiste taking that onto standing. With an they've been just getting destroyed and a 25 runs in the first few games of the series with Tampa suspensions handed out for the brawl. Room door got eight games Elvis Andrus got one for just generally being crazy I guess Jesse job has got three John Gibbons three and one for Joey bath mosier sports headlines the next update coming up at 70 we were called to get to and after that I've got. A couple of good texts. And our tax and I've Hampshire and star one of 2.5 techs and opened up guys that are taxing and think you have asking this lately you're signing your texts which is nice they get to acknowledges the couple detects come capital on this loss and we'll go to Lou with a car phone call they told him earlier on WGR. The more and I think attic the most fraternity and this will be. Here oh well for romper. I think that's what hurt animals. And I hear about it while. Ian entered in yeah. And walked. Out of won't let. Couple years. Well but the good news for me there can be far thanks Lou it could be far worse. Watkins is knock on wood supposed to be there for opening day if someone told me. He's now missing regular season games man that is your big time screwed. And so it could be far worse and the Lawson yes. There's no question. It was draining to see the news that he's not going to be there on day one. But the good news is. He's gonna play at some point this season which is nice she's not like out for the year on injured reserve forget it you won't even see him at all on the field until 2017. He'll be out there. I don't know how effective he's going to be because he's missing the entire offseason that's not good but at least he will be out there playing at some point this season by all accounts the. Public text first. Frustrations over so long that they they add up. The injuries concerning because the team did nothing to improve an average conservative run based offense and the biggest piece to improve the defense is now a non participant. If you're going win with defense your defense has to be firing on all cylinders that's repeat in Rochester on the offense point. That's right they lost Chris Hogan they kept the left side intact they hope McCoy will be healthy that its second receiver. Why it's a mismatch the offense the offense did not do. I would agree anything to in Peru doesn't that doesn't mean they can't improve but it a look at on paper. While the offense be better the number one thing we organ saying is that Tyrod have a full offseason training camp OTAs for everything Tyrod will get everything. And now he doesn't get that with Watkins. Well yeah I I agree they. I think it's a pretty big wall. That to have Watkins go on until a he'll be ready opening day. If you give he was holding out. But. What kind of shape can he be and how is he gonna be easier to be at 100% running routes coming off big oak in fort right. That's a major concern. So I think that's a fair point if you're gonna win a defense or defense has the firing on all cylinders I don't expect the offense to be better per say they can be but I would expect it. And if their defense is going to be yet. You know full on the best they can beat you just lost what they said was a day one starter who by the way it was replacing. A multiple global. Guy who granted could buy in in Mario Williams but that that. Has talent. Remember though at the offense. There's with the bills did last year with the office this year was the defense let our. Kind of last year was collect dolls play LeSean by NATO in cog in Iraq this this offseason it was keep the guys you have on offense you don't open up holes on offense in this is comic. They get all that spending last year so you knew they were really screwed in terms of the salary cap they weren't gonna be able to do anything much beyond trying to keep their own guns. So they spent all that money last year. You can make the argument they shouldn't have given LeSean McCoy a big new contract when he got here but they spent all that money to build up the offense. To help whoever the heck was gonna win the quarterback competition so. They figured let's do offense now. You know why. Is we have a top five defense all behold guess what happens the defense. Balls part you know what the bed and it falls apart and now they go to this offseason and go. And we're gonna have to fix the defense unfortunately. We don't have cap room to do anything else so what does the drafted in the draft so. You know whether that was right or wrong. I I don't know I mean they they realize last year I I would have done the same thing because last year on the GM I say. I've got a top five defense. While I really need to get the weapons on the office. We're gonna run the ball lit up LeSean McCoy is available wonderful we have nothing at tight end hey let's go get Charles clay. Take a shot on Percy Hartman and it was working until they got injured. But let's take a shot on Richie and cog NATO and it paid off for them because he had to two really good season let's spend the draft pick on John Miller. Here's a guy's gonna commit and be our right guard as a rookie. So they looked at and said we're good on defense let's kick the offense they did. It means we're not gonna have cap room next off season what they didn't anticipate. Merrill Williams checking out and the defense taking a big step back which would which necessitated. This offseason. And another tax here and it's gonna get me to him a place on talk it's if Jorge or George I don't know if you could spell George is where maybe your. With no training camp minimum to no OTA's missing the first month loss since first season will probably be a walk. I would think it will take them all year to get up to speed missing all activity from the state for less time during the year to get reps in. I don't think the frustration and anger is about whether we should've taken him. If he's injured in would've taken him anyway if you wise if it's on it's a feeling the bills were lied to duped. I themselves or didn't have a good enough medical staff to see what other teams saw here. This is where I get you know we mention which you were taken some ideals. Doesn't this make you feel like the bills W used the term back purgatory right there quarterback purgatory. They're just in purgatory. That's where they are that's where they've been for sixteen years there hasn't been a whole lot of really bad stuff. And there hasn't been a whole lot of really good stuff. There and purgatory and what happens in purgatory you drafted defensive end linebacker in nineteen and then find out he's gonna miss half the season. That's not. Horrible and also not great it's just everything that the bills are and if you are actually Whaley himself be your your running this team. Or if you are. Ross because he's been on the team longer than even the owner passed and don't you. Go to work every day thinking about this football team wanting to leave things are gonna get better but ultimately think in. And we are just stopped here. And we all well they will be stalked here until they're paying a quarterback 22 million dollars who worked it. And part of being stuck here in this purgatory that they always just. In whether there's bad management bad block there's probably a lot of Alou a mix of ball bad decisions bad luck. Part of purgatory is he got the best quarterback you've ever had in the whole time you've been in purgatory. He's probably not worth that big money because it's gonna keep you win this purgatory for longer so. While the loss and injury is of course what happens to teams like the bills that are stocked here. This is not for me it's more it's more for Tyrod it's okay. Things aren't going well. And when things don't go well there's one person whose job it is to fix it. Tony romo's gonna return to a four and twelve cowboys team how do you think they'll do that in four I'd bet they'll be better than four and twelve. And if Tyrod wants to be that guy Pete if he's gonna try and prove that he can be that guy. There's one person that's gonna ultimately get this team out of purgatory we've always convinced herself it's going to be. Anybody else the young quarterback the new rookie quarterback they draft in the first on the defensive minded head coach he'll do it analytics that'll do it every single thing we always hitch our wagon to a different thing it's gonna drag us out of purgatory in its never gonna be anything other than a quarterback it's worth it. And were right now at the crossroads of is this quarterback gonna be the. The drags us out of it. And and everybody's interests I don't know I gotta be Athens shows that make me any less depressed that I want at 6 o'clock which kind of thing I do could you be the man at well look at the end coach the manager it's like an illicit. If I could take a swing and I knew would get us out of here I would. What where why swing were swinging it in cog needle off the street Percy Hartman take a chance the bills are taking chances the year op. Qualifying offer sheet whatever. Transition tag to Charles clay they're swinging at every pitch steak and tried to blast one out of the park and every time it is like. Now three up three down just taken swings taking swings at everything. Other than the thing that'll ultimately John that your well part of it is. They swung and missed the they swung and missed three JP. I guess I could say yes swung and missed it Edwards but whatever the fits extension with them when Imus sometimes they didn't swing for quarterback when they should have they just ignored it how many years did fits start here. Where else that he start for such a long time the jets gave them a year and have since said. Want to pay you big money you know they stuck with fits too long because we did the same thing we said Fritz is gonna be the guy he's good enough I fell for it. I fell four defense would get us out of this Jim Schwartz that's the guy who can pull us out of purgatory Mike will pull us out who else. We just you know and hitch our wagon to somebody think and that's going to be the guys we can which can to a quarter. Right of course and this is not the best well fits and Bledsoe with a two closest things to its way and this time it was all right. Lawson stud defensive player gonna be a perfect fit for this what he's not he's not playing. Now case not play for awhile and I do agree with Horry lush yeah I I do agree that the first season for him. What are you gonna chalk it up to injury no matter how is season if he plays eight games he gets ten sacks going to be. Now imagine that he's healthy and then his expectations are through the roof if you get zero sacks will be well it was her. Any bad player for player missed it from loss and 100%. We will be able to chalk it up too well it was her. With the comment on the medical staff or in a fair I don't know what they knew or what they didn't know. If the medical staff. Thought like that there were a number of teams in the league that said this guy's gonna need shoulder surgery at some point and the bills medical staff thought. Never he's come like a 100% there's no problem. Yeah I would think they should catch an issue with his shoulder I don't know all that was the case or not entirely possible to build did their medical and realized yeah. There's there's going to be a problem down the road dog we can't tell you when. Could being this season could be next season. Somewhere he's gonna have an issue with that shoulder can he play right now yes but it's quite likely something will happen at some point. They did that on the firing the medical staff that's what other teams around the league we're doing as well then it's up to the GM in the scouts and people around the organization did side. What do we do witnessed we take this kid now knowing something might happen with the shoulder or we shy away completely I still would have taken kid. If you tell me it's not gonna be something chronic in major that could really suit severely. Affect his career. Like may be miles Jack or Jill Smith injuries 8030550. Giants 8552. Factor to sell. Majority of you that voted yesterday. Are lowering your expectations after the injury news that loss and Watkins. Playoffs the non playoffs are lop off a couple wins. What exactly are you doing now in terms of lowering the expectations since most of you are. Atoll real factor to gravel and John is John WG. Villanova got a few of the ballot down the lane if that's almost picked up at Jefferson deflated rabbit try to get behind his back to LeBron got deflected off the backboard. We'll run it back to Dallas put a bloodbath now. It. Cavaliers to have all the hammered operates. It is hammer home. Cavs won fifteen to five it was a destruction fast want 15845. I thought that was is corridor 110. Now it is felt like that Toronto had seven because I know with seven now because I think it was want to can stay out reviewed and took one off the yet so that there of the capital out of 115 to nothing run quick. Quick question about the caps on relate to the bills actually Rick Reilly once wrote of the bills of the ninety's. That they were overrated. And that they were winning the junior varsity of the NFL but basically the bills were a great team in a time when the AFC didn't have great teams. Soul. You tell me. Cavaliers. They should destroy till now. I long for the days in the Eastern Conference having a second good team I don't think there's a second good team in the in the Eastern Conference out of there has been since like Kevin Garnett. And Paul Pierce and the Celtics were good yeah. Other cabs. Nine no dominant or is the east that week. In your opinion why they would be more of these being weak but I think that's also doing a disservice to the cats idea too because a lot of times if you have a great player. Or a great team you'll have to say well nobody else does nobody else that's that that's that good. The bills had great teams and again if she was a better conference but bills had great teams of those were in the NFC. They still make the playoffs on a that would got a four straight super ball right but it would make the playoffs LeBron like a day. They weren't good enough to compete with the other conference they don't really gut LeBron is about to make the NBA finals for a sixth consecutive year and eight out of nine think though. I ain't the one Miami to in the cat where the least it has during its six years now all of law bronze team. And everybody else the pacers. Have been the best team other than the cavs in the last six years and they given me the finals once. So it's hard not to feel like the east Islam bronze team and a bunch of you know via charm but you can say you know to which these point yes I think the NFC was better the east was loaded and you still at San Francisco. But I think it's a disservice to the bills to say they were overrated no I think those are great football team. I mean head. A number of hall of famers they did still have to deal with Dan Marino in their division and you know we talk about this in the break Matthew pointed out John L weighs in Denver. How would act starting quarterback was for the raiders and I looked this up at 513. But they're they're they they got Joseph Montana at the end Dan Marino and John Elway in their conference championships they were great football team. So I think to say the bills won the JB every year is doing them a disservice. I still think in the NFC. They're making class there in contention and maybe they make one or two irreparable instead of four is their record against the NFC that they're ready and they big at the giants in the regular season and beat those teams in the regular season they just went belly up in the playoffs against the if. The cavs go to twelve and hell on the way to the finals. Is cavs warriors is the worst make it is that like. Two best ever you've got the best ever regular season against a twelve and all post season the heck of a matchup. I do think twelve and all right the cavs could win the cavs are were good enough to win the west maybe. But I mean c'mon the second or how many teams in the out of the west would be the second best team in the east five. Oklahoma City San Antonio Portland maybe might be that second best team in the west yeah LA clippers if they're healthy you know. It's just it's not exactly a tough road no but again. I think it you know I I don't want to take anything away from a team that has LeBron James carrier ring. Kevin Love and they look good and then I I like shopper when he was with the knicks and that some Tristan Thompson they have some good they have some great and some good players. So it's not their fault they're in a conference that is. Average. Around Alex Tom Brady conversation right Brady had a patron to see any less of a quarterback and right public television he's been how many times has the second best team in the AFC east than any good if Brady and and New England played in the division with Pittsburgh and Roethlisberger might I don't only at night the colts forever. The colts haven't had division forever many times has their Bennett a really good team in the second spot is half what it doesn't mean Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck or not. Really great quarterback Rex Manning morsel unlocked. 8030550. Join us 888550. 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