Aug 17, 2016|
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Live from bills training camp in saint John Fisher furious howry and Jeremy on the home of the bills WGR's. Sports Radio 55. In Germany live from those training camp at saint John Fisher was presented by junior college educated from like ten Miami team. In part why sports obsession the largest selection. Malls and buy cars are. Repairs cars are says relax we'll take it. Hi I think with the right what a great solution you know you might unaware. One of us are. Steinfeld I you guys walk around with those. I need that you know why I'm angry. Just thought I'd just so this I alternates who we got to that we're talking site home shrinkage lobster or. Episode that we the first lap I had it about fourteen hours of fighting as we got there because we are talking about Jimmy BZ yes that. And the difference between living. Long aisle are living on the Hamptons a where's it gonna live. If he goes in the AL explains that the yellow Procter geography and eventually I needed a laugh at it for fourteen hours I've been miserable. I can't take anymore this I quit. Okay. To payment mortgage. Him ivory got to who'd pay. And my son's senior year of college my god the junior take care I feel like I did to college thing already so you know. I could pay for me go to college if he's gonna come back home. And waited what is important now Ireland Barrett drove away but I can't take this I can't take this. Nothing to let this be a lesson nothing good happens in the precinct right. Nothing well it could smoke grow on the offseason too well the point is but nothing good if if this were the regular season. You only like well who's up next the vandals and you'd move month. Now every season to about everything lasts forever yet because there's nothing that. Good that happens but so you might still feel the rag when the injury you might still feel. Every single thing that happens just. Sits with you feel Jabber it's you know white Jeremy look I I'm I'm angry targets he selfish. And and I know will will talk about whether the policy is right or wrong in and marijuana. You know what's the big stink about it I get all that but there's rule he selfish he's not learning from his lessons I don't wanna hear about it apology I read it I really don't care. Your selfish you thought of yourself but not your teammates so I'm angry at him. But you know what that when I can even still him bullet if it wasn't the litany of things that have happened since the end of last season. It just doesn't stop. It's like we. You know what we do this is out there to get to training camp when a guy is cleared to his after his physical and is cleared to practice. I look at it at the joyous experience your training camp. Like the day went what Dario is Kyle Williams says and heavy rock there at the same data but this is the best they around this team and it's. It's just. I I tried to put the list down last not I wrote it down a probably forgot some stuff. The Sammy foot injury the Shaq locked in surgery the rack and injury. The Jonathan Williams the Carlos Williams the LeSean McCoy in the Daria is now I mean it's just like gold all he wants. Like it's absolutely sucking the life out of me. And the season has started in the back seat okay I didn't get to that point yet and this is debris sees its August what is August. 77 on page seven there are still three more games in which players can suffer horrendous injuries. While playing well meaningless football shoot you know what. The way things have gone no kitty it's time to pull shoot as that's that's why I know Jeremy and make you and I differ on that and I heard Mike pocket about it. With Chris and Mike you know what. I may just. I'm tired of this. I may just tell Rex he can't play Tyrod Taylor the rest of the pre season. To sit sit you starters play your reserves this I can't take anymore I cannot make any more bad news. So opening day now you're down at least three defense of starters. Daria sits out Shaq Shaq Lawson is out actually first but the scenic shacks out and and racked up all year. There's a report Manny Lawson is facing a possible one game suspension that could be for starters out. But the opener against Baltimore we still don't know about Deron Williams he's out with a eat it didn't make it to the first pre season game. If his neck it all up yeah contact you know they came out with a concussion. That was a there's an example of the season is gone errant Williams out of the concussion. And it was like. Well Woolley at least it's not his neck the concussion was the broad right right no that's like and I that's like guys were clear that. This today yeah I heard sell saying that I don't sell wasn't being funny if it played yet you got nothing footnote about the could not at all but just to hear sale like. I guess it's kind of good that was a lot of it's got the best news we've got is that he's got a caution which is just like. It's been a bad it's been bad pre season you know what this pre season has been and I learned this I got I get the cart have come here about 4:15 in the morning. And I turn on WGR and a first the last problem Morgan Michael junior on. The moment I turn another talking about the bills. Which is. That thing right like. That is I don't go to the guys who bills are like an offensive line as long as you're not hearing about them. It's probably okay if the bills are the national news let's be honest the last like fifteen years. It's usually a bad thing. And great to Libya they were probably PTI that all for short. This offseason and pre season has made the bills but punch line and of all the things that hurt in sports for your team to go through. It stinks when your team is a joke or punch like now. How they play in the season and ultimately matters the most that they go to Wheldon for the nobody's gonna care about this pre season. But right now in the absence of any real NFL stories all you've got are meaningless pre season games all of the blame game being canceled. And stay healthy the biggest story one of the biggest stories is that the bills that had a horrendous offseason. And you mean that did. He tied it shows the roads this morning and WB yet it took a shot at Rex for what in the offseason with like. Everybody if so yeah shot at you it's finally I listen to the ups Taurus wrestler so sabre Chris Johnson is rosy now. She witty comments and so Rex cells that went in the offseason think guys like everybody. Says the most mild mannered person our business I have ever met in she goes sarcasm it's that I mean why all everybody is taking their shots that the bills. And just when you think it's finally over there's another one coming there's still three more pre season games wait until I won't even say the name gets hurt misses the first half of the season. I was gonna ask you today. One of the things I want you to do today. Get me ready for the next shoe to drop out let's let's just start bringing up what I can inventories so I can prepare myself McCoy you know about the various thing right out it's a start. I took my little afternoon nap right like get up I get that idea a person who's checked my phone anything going on I got some messages. And I text that you and Matthew. I don't know I think it was about I guess that whatever and you guys texted back pick by the picked the bills I thought mock I had no idea what happened. And you guys let me note Daria suspected that I just what are you gotta be freaking kidding. Yeah out in kit can be and we're not you know look. And and by the way I know if you get a call should bill's bottom no they shouldn't cut marshaled ours they're really trying to can't we we can have that discussion to. And sure I'd pick I'm gonna you can say I'm hypocritical but he's a star on the team. If I'll go back to Jeff Fisher last week Jeff Fisher cut a guy for bring at a woman in the dorms wonderful if Jerryd golf that a woman in the dorms I don't think he's cutting edge here. The bills are cutting Marcel guitarist he's one of the key players on this team he's a stud defensive tackle this is why this is why I get angry. You know I mean this Carlos Williams gets suspended I get disappointed in Carlos Williams martial artists get to spend I get rank this guy's a key player on this and he's a big part literally and figuratively of this defense so they're not good economy he still important for the team. And he's got to grow up and stop youth in this stuff because the next time it because it's and then it games he's. I think I. I cannot remember an offseason pre season and I swear I tried to remember. The would've been two years ago. We thought wow this is one of the white Acura to begin with Howard announcing his retirement. At law or not announcing needed telling but with Kyle Orton retires grownups out on New Year's Eve I forget the whole bunch of stuff happened in the offseason we thought we were crazy offseason that paled in comparison I'm not sure that anything. To equate what's happening with this team and what has happened at the end of last season in ours is just like the icing on the cake with the loss to enter in the rack. Seoul what's killing the two of them the vibe of could defense be better well the starters are born out for whatever reason left and right can feel that vibe was dead anyway like the people. You don't trust the defense I don't let us but maybe they would have been better. It's like. Who starter throughout third guy out lots and Mike gets credit which court that matter he had been practicing it we got hurt opened up. At him to the list. I got her before camp opened up. So what's on everyone's mind about this. Mean I think it's easy to just complain the whole time and I don't say that like your whining but you're batting your team and I think there's reason to be mad at your team. What are the what are we talk about I don't think there's any debate at the artist has. The personal responsibility. People are called say he should be held accountable he is being held accountable that's what a suspension this. Seoul what's the debate. What's the debate here that to me that's a big part of that number at times I got Dario should know better era I reflect and oh yeah no kidding I. It the debated the larger issue whether the whether this. Car is it's not Rex Ryan's fault that Daria was smoking marijuana. But the larger issue of is there not enough accountability on this team that they're not enough discipline. Jonathan to Rex says guys but hate after it after minicamp date yourself. First off Carlos who is overweight and then he gets suspended Jonathan Williams gets arrested for suspicion of DW why does might mark out arias is Mike Tomlin have the same problem. Well Mike Tomlin wouldn't cut marshaled our Noah Levy on bell marte is Bryant told us they have three guys suspended three Pittsburgh three. It does he have a similar discipline problem. That's a good example his quarterback is a guy that's been in trouble police have been suspended before. I would have said common the guy who runs a tight ship but they have three guys suspended right now. I don't know that you know I think that's the only question is there anything the bills could do differently now people call up and say. Telecheck would cut this guy cut back he would not cut martial arts. I don't think that. And he's been known to cut guys. But it'll read and spikes gets in a car accident. He's not gonna be a factor in in in 2015 a big factor you cut Brandon Spikes you Bill Belichick he doesn't cut martial arts. No we can't. If the GM is about to come Marcel Daria so we fires himself first question. He can't make that decision that it it does make a lot of sense you can beat a team that dies on that hill about what. Maturity and you know. We've announced for cutting marshaled ours are all while I in the patriots that side. And the patriots signed Corey Dylan and give credit for they sign. Albert Haynesworth. Can get credit for they signed Randy Moss. What they saw blame big bear all of you know why I think it's a great fit for this guy he's had some problems they'll go to new way Glenn he'll fit right in those guys never do fit in and they leave quickly. And it doesn't stick to them patriots had a guy that fought it off duty cop. He played on the team that year I. What does it say is in the middle of all of this because what this is. What happens on a day like yesterday is they'll be 5005. Million tweets about this the and then like waddle stick out. And I at all by seed that I should give the guy credit I just got one that said. None of this matters at the quarterback is good enough and Mike. Sometimes. It's frustrating to realize that that is to rule. Other times it's uplifting to realize that is true but it remains stroke your quarterback is good. You won't even notice that the teams that have these problems they don't even notice. You know what if he with a great quarterback would say to their defenses like. I'll man that stinks what three in one now on the first four games the biggest they get through it. It it just doesn't make much difference and that doesn't mean that we shouldn't care about it it just means that I I felt myself I I think about Tyrod all the time. And on a drive into it and thinking about Rex is lying to be an all in. And it seems to be now appropriate they're always with Tyrod. If he's good yeah. Their money in if he's not well then they don't have the pieces to make up for an average quarterback. And that's what that the that the plan has spent fifteen years is let's get enough pieces to make up for average quarterback they don't have the pieces for that anymore. They've been stripped of some depth have been stripped by injuries now by suspensions. So it's all about the quarterback but that's the frustrating part of this we don't know about the quarterback I hope he's the guy you can overcome all the stuff sure if a couple of guys are suspended for the Pittsburgh Steelers. You can still make the case at Ben Roethlisberger can get them into the playoffs without a doubt but since we don't know about Tyrod Taylor that adds to the frustration of all this stuff. When a running back is out for four games and deepened the tackles up four games and perhaps an outside linebacker is out and we don't know about the health and safety. Hopefully Sammy Watkins will be ready to go by we want there's just so much stuff going on. Around the quarterback. On a team that. We don't know about the quarterbacks around a quarterback you ought to be really good at twister ripped quarterback stood up over gobbled up stuff. I don't know and that his debt to the frustration level because I don't think it has to be like. A perfect scenario 100% all this stuff has to work out to make the playoffs I don't think that even though at the bills that would sixty your plan after out. But there's so much stuff that is now. You know in the everything around the quarterback they're sold pretty hits that has taken now. Mostly the bigger it's mostly on the defensive side of the ball. But there's so much stuff now that makes you just think. Well OK so tyrant has the play lights out we're screwed I don't know if he can do I don't I'm not sure I hope he can I have no idea if he's that good. We'll find out well we just destroy this is why yesterday we talked about his contract that maybe issued a way to find out of he's good. They didn't Wear to talk to Doug Whaley today that's the plan about. You know what the thinking was behind the come but behind the contract etc. I think the NFL should stop testing for we'd. Hot take. I could care less if they were don't. I really don't care what they do and so you can't do I know that they do I I know that you can't do I think they should just be Smart. If the NFL had a brain here yet. They do damage to their league by testing for marijuana that's all they do what's the benefit. They don't have want is their PR side to this that that league. You know parents out there and get the league is saying it's OK for guys to smoke marijuana advocates don't do this yourself the only PR they get is suspensions. They don't get positive PR out of this they get overwrought saying if they reversed the policy. In the messenger setting as they can plan our league it's OK to smoke marijuana but you kids you guys don't do that for. What you get garlic don't worry about it it's okay going to be tough to make that case is it goes legal state by state over the course of the next seven players that changes things that not what does legal all over the it's what legal and several places including. Washington DC. Two of the acoustics Washington. Colorado Alaska. Washington DC. Decriminalized. In many many states. Of course madness got married this and only available and they and they want it is decriminalized in Canada what changes things church state starts saying it's legal that the NFL has no there's no reason apple pol did you see a series of tweets yesterday on the other three sports leagues and their policy. The NHL pulse due to the NHL's marijuana also so off they test for. Don't want that tests positive as ever named it or punished. They only do it. For their numbers so they can tell the union pages the heads up I don't know if you guys care about this but 13% of players smoke marijuana or. 87% or whatever the number my peak if there's no test there's no suspension no firewire there's no system of punishment it is not a banned substance. Like that you don't Major League baseball's policy. It is not a banned substance it is not tested for maybe it is no matter how many times you test positive you'll never be suspended or find four. NBA NBA. Adam silver is on record saying he cares more about HGH. And they do test for I think it takes your third positive test to be suspended for five games. I believe. The NBA has slowly stopped testing and ultimately will stop testing altogether as they focus on each year to show that. I thought they would have had some kind of penalty involved with that and the other at a silver says not a concern. They're not concerned about it the only league it is concerned about it now only concern but the penalty is six is 45% of the season. And the penalty only serves to make fans mad. To take players off the field there's nothing ot that my opinion there's nothing positive from this the real Smart PR play would be to stop testing for. And you'd never hear about it again it would just go away. The other leaks that they have weed problems. Probably did I spoke to do NHL player small problems dollars or guys use it sure but you never hear about. Like to meet its that simple these other leagues have decided it. It's not worth doing this and they don't. And for some reason this league still thinks it's worth it. Roger Goodell back in 2014. Said he was open to the idea. Of removing it from the banned substances lists has 2014 OK this is during it reading an article from the USA today. HBO real sports. Estimates that fifty to 60% of players use it. The pain management or stress or anxiety in fifty to 60%. That since 2014. I reached out to a couple of NFL folks. That put the number higher than that. So does that mean Daria can do it no. But. What in the NFL just figure it out. But to me this is easy fix stop testing. They stop testing yeah players stay on the field you stop making it look like your league is full of selfish. These are some words that were sent to me it's gone well pieces of belief. You keep your players who you should really partner away. You keep them out of the negative light and you allow them to just live their life a little bit. Because no one will care so that's that's Bryant. It's a joke and and I think it's embarrassing for the league. That they still do this cut goes to what Tom Brady when Tom Brady was getting. Pursued by the NFL power yep. I could never ice still it why would they do this to their best player they make themselves look bad. If you the league is the players. The league should always be protecting the players but I want to make them look good and as much as I'm happy about the brace suspension because selflessly help the bill also went through the league looks really stupid. And they made their one of their best of all time looks they didn't it seem like a weird guilt that guy right so they didn't have to do it any other. And I feel the same thing about marijuana test you don't have to do. Any of this Iraq. I guess you're not proving anything to any of your fans by having I guess you just that this just Tellme which I vote your argument the best argument the other three sports don't do it. That just it's not gonna hurt your sport it some way shape or the other sports do not have a product that's that's your. The best whip which problem which sport has the problem witness the only one that asked for it up the other sports. The consistently does were does forces don't have. And it we've been caught on years now where it's been pretty clear they should just stop testing for so that's right come down. All right and doesn't let it all day long that doesn't mean I'm defending marshaled ours I think the league should be Smart protect its product and stop testing for. All right so. Wouldn't think that you know spends. You know it's funny I mean if there is. I'm usually they got to place the old school card. If you tell me there's no I am not considered tell yet. It's okay to smoke marijuana. You know it's I wouldn't necessarily tell you that. But if you tell me it's not gonna hurt the lake I would think the league would be worried about there image. They. It's illegal in most states but what you're employed by us cool. So I think that's a problem for the national football it is you know who else and that's the part I don't know off it would affect like gain performances. And actual on field results and stuff like. But I would think the it would be a problem if it's illegal in most places but the NFL says. You work for us you can do it. It's not you can do it. It's we don't test well which beat if you get assets maybe you can do know if you get pulled over with it you can get rested I understand but the point is we are not going to be the police the police all the police. The other sports leagues do not play a role of copied you know. And the NFL does well they they pick which substances they don't think I'm right proper for their players to take they just decide that this is not what goes up. And I guess maybe it's cultural role. Changes. You know well Scott digging for smoking but this week. The president's daughter alive. Overrated and David didn't even got a bigger thing. I could. I realize that all day today I'll probably sound like. Eight hit piece donor grateful that I pot head don't want your talk and my son report put the president's daughter. Think last week and nobody cared why because Michael Phelps boss got busted for it. They'd get suspended by the IOC or suspended by the Olympics. The white. Because it think it does does this matter. So I am sorry Al owl all raided in today as best I can but. This has been something it's well before Ariza got plenty of people saying like goal you'll pursue the good he's a built wait let me I'm bell should not be suspended. It just it should be a problem. I believe 80% of the leak probably uses. What if if if if they tested every single player today. How many players will be suspended how many players would it take. For every football fan to say wait why. Half my team got suspended this week before they said maybe you guys you shouldn't should insist just for so anyway. 8030550. To join us 8880 but if we do that by fits the hang on let me go here. OK. Jennifer you're on WG arbor right ahead. And you knew. You Che is why. People. Think it. Your pay is. How did injure. I don't know what that these are whether it hopefully get. An. DW. What the I only you're at your your employer. And speak and we don't want and the players and Eric. Like here and lowered standards or we want you off. Still it's how the players play and that's how they are and LT errors because they live up to encourage and oral. Can you compare being here whether it didn't seem to look out early on. At Etsy specifically about marijuana. Are. I'm listening and it's specifically about marijuana now now it's not a slap it. When I want you are talking about well or hinder. Eke. People. That the editors and you don't compare the play. Didn't know where I had it is nothing and outline her back now. Are. Held up the or on. Of a person look up to see it. I and our goal he didn't go well I'll let me pat. Has eaten. Or in the air. You know. The purse an immediate but we need that people that are inherently. Makes me. Why doesn't the NHL test for a fine now that you're here in a matter. Does matter that's like our job is to talk about sport so I'm talking about sports leagues shouldn't be a problem eighty hopes and shouldn't be at it for me. And what Al airlines. There's a fire there's a fair debate there. If you wanna tell me that you believe professional athletes should take HGH I'm willing to listen to that. Your outlook built up Bob Blair and you don't want and Eric and like you compare anybody in the because. It rule. It's just an apparent heart. Moment make it for the next three and a half hours because. I am approaching this from the standpoint of the leak. It right at the way it acts like a small sports is it is going where going. It's bad. Jennifer cut Jennifer I can I can we can we talk what this analogy to hang up. Are you there you go there yeah I mean you are right yes OK Jennifer my point is simply this. When it comes to public relations. And it's not lowering us standard. It's releasing unnecessary information about players your favorite hockey players might all smoke marijuana. All day every day. And the reason you don't know about it it's because the league doesn't tell you which. And in this case the NFL unnecessarily. Tells you this they do not need to they don't get a benefit from doing it that's the point NF. And that I eat. And that are caught and when she and insecurity. About the players and writes OK Jennifer can I ask you one more question. Infant. And didn't do this op well. You're you're you plug it. And anybody. It depends on the job. July deep blue but what jobs do unique tested all of them. On your. Hat that is not true we don't have a drug that is not true. In the marketplace. And there are millions of jobs or that I'm not. There are calm there are there are states now that. Have legalized marijuana there look punch does a country to the north the boss that you get to five minutes that might when he seventeen. Opt you're argue it would be horrible. If you. Don't narrowed and she keep. And. That's a huge part of my point actually I believe it should be legal to begin with the but the secondary part of the point is the all their businesses. Guess what record company's record companies with rock stars they don't wish drug test they're they're artists why because they don't. Here I don't know why the NFL should care. Go up in smoke marijuana pot he's going to be okay it would end. Next you can't in the NFL you the other sports there's random drug FBI the other sports you can in the NFL you can't do that. Are not huge honor and you're not prop that is meat and dairy does not airlines all that's not true but that's not true at all. Q why aren't you. That Reid and white. I think he smokes it I'll tell you why he spoke to Jennifer for juries he enjoys it he enjoys it. Until he knows he's a big enough star he's not getting a cut. Any get away with next exit they'll get suspended by the league but the bills will not cut him and I think those two reasons why does. It's your hot rod and you know why you want to help a bit and he entered. No I I actually I do with it the rule on the books Daria is should be suspended and he will be suspended. I'm not debate or Daria standard I would make the case all day but the NFL should no longer do this. OK we have to pretend to prop up the channel if you want from the first person not make this case jesus' outside I just need to get the respect lately sorry get a prep which our occasional. Thank you for the call I've I appreciate the passionate. Disagreement then. Let let me get a break a wanna get back is I'm outward Jeremy is on this but I will say there's one thing in the argument that I I did disagree with with Jennifer I get where she's coming from. And and I. I'm not where Jeremy is on this I'm torn on whether or not I would say it's okay to do this stuff quite honestly. And that's more army thinking about it from a parent's standpoint. But but there's one fatal flaw in the argument that Jennifer posed and we'll deal with that we get back 8030 but if they join us 888. 550 to 550 to join us here from built training camp on WG. You GR Sports Radio 550 and WG ER 515 dot com. Very very late because we have a very passionate call lead off the show the bills here practice again today. 10 AM practice from saint John Fisher. I think they'll avoid the rain. Now won't be a downpour like it was yesterday. Marcel Daria is issued a statement on instead Graham the bills issued a statement how disappointed they aren't him he's been suspended four games for violating the substance abuse policy. Which is what which is what has led us to a larger conversation about. The role of marijuana testing in the NFL. But that's a story marshaled ours suspended four games Manny Lawson facing a one game suspension because of domestic abuse and allegations of domestic abuse his agent we did last night that there are no there's no truth to that so we'll see how that story. Ultimately plays out. Glitzy easy much there's a report that he talked to Toronto the islanders the doubles and Pittsburgh yesterday. Buckingham Mort teams today it looks like Boston what apple last visit with him. The red wings talked with Jimmie beat Hubert told no thanks you first to be closer to home that Detroit. Baseball jays beat the Yankees Baltimore lost to Boston Mets beat Arizona license beat Rochester those two teams haven't met eight today 105 Coke coal field. Olympics Kerry lost jetting to if or Ross lost it beach volleyball will play for the bronze. Simone vials won gold in the floor exercise habits but it was Argentine in the quarters at 545. That meant 200 meter semi finals track and field not a clock to night. Those your sports headlines next update at 7 o'clock. You remember when Rex Ryan to the Buffalo Bills won the offseason yes they have lost the Prius. Okay because when you look at it right now essentially Reggie rattling their second round draft pick out for the year. With the knee injury that first traffic Shaq Lawson out until week six after undergoing shoulder surgery and more sold Dolly's hair. Hundred million dollar knows tech suspended today for games for violating the league's substance abuse policy. Coach after a yes yes it's tough phone calls to the point we. They've treated at Ulster Buick Jeremy but our company calls that are at sport employees just started random testing 30% per quarter. Matthew unit off are called out something along those lines. Yes just so called off fair whose companies started doing drug screening for marijuana. And then head to fire a bunch of people who knew specific skills. And then stopped us. Okay let other treat and automate the port I was I was teasing at the break. Richt he did it between it and all it does is give a bad wrap this guy who is a role model kids who cares if he smokes some grass OK so that the NFL have this in place because of the role model issue. Let's part of my point and lo Jennifer Bristol are said it's lowering the standard it's not that to me it's not giving information it's not relevant. Marcel Darius could do tons of work in the community and the NFL and what isn't he selfish for. Doing something his employer says he's not allowed to do there are words we can't say on the radio. You can save them under the First Amendment to our our employer says correct you can't say these words right sulphide may be fired right so we don't say those words. But there are other bills that oil price and but there are other broadcast mediums are avenues where you can use those words there. As much as I think it's stupid. It's federal it's the rule exists. That what's the benefit the benefit is that people kids don't hear words that they don't wanna hear it right in the NFL. I struggle with the benefit of the policy. The NHL doesn't have one. The at Major League Baseball doesn't have one and the NBA commissioner openly talks about moving past it because they're not concerned about yet any NFL. Continues to really put the hammer down on players for something. That you know if you wanna get into the bigger conversation about medicinal use about recreation about anxiety. This league asks a lot of these players and just because they make a lot of money. People think that. You know. Delete should tell them everything about it. This event this is one of the part of me I'll aisles of it was him I got inevitability. This will inevitably. Be removed from the banned substances list by the there's no doubt. Eventually it will go. So you get mad at Marcel Darius about it today. And then at three years feel like right now you can go ahead and do it like to me that that that gets silly I've I've trouble making piece of that it will. Undoubtedly eventually be eliminated from the banned substance list. Now let and like I said I'd have a hard part time with a as opposed to you and I think a lot of it is honestly from a terrible standpoint parental stamp on it should say I still. Have that. Parenting capital credit I'm a bad parent Irish pro tank but I still have the parenting cap bon. And say that's it's just that the message out it's illegal in most of this country. But when you're in our employ its okay for you to do that and we won't suspect knew I have a hard time coming to grips with that message. But I will say this Jennifer you made a couple points about standards to broaden things like imagine. Cocaine use domestic violence I'm not here I mean marijuana is illegal okay what's illegal is illegal but you can't lump it in the same. I'm not trying to diminish. How I phrase this and try to get the point right type. It's marijuana would not pocket that's the violence okay there's no other way acting here I had to say that other that we're talking about smoking marijuana. A that many people listening to the short right now I've tried it at some point in their lives. Domestic violence is all. Whole different thing you hear what this it together about it I had a number of people say well what if the other league stopped caring about. Domestic violence stops caring about shooting people on site. That again these are the comparisons are making to smoking marijuana are are. Think it's not even close like that I'm not trying to make smoking marijuana sound like your app at a pizza candy we operate donuts. I don't you just gave me that that's. Sailing it it -- Colorado it is not a black from what I hear you actually can purchase you get pieces but pieces of candy well okay I could just what my wife with the Colorado with the rightness or wherever it's open it's right there everybody selling itself. But at this Katie. And tell you which may be Katie compares the wild cat isn't like you don't say enemy edit if you're if you're asking me. To put together a list of violations that would became its for you for your professional athletes. Marijuana would be so far doubtless compared to some of the other stuff that you mentioned in the first. That with strikers good point here the league thinks its players are role models how about eliminate testing bought. Banned social media posts displaying its use. It's only fair point. Again it's about him like that I get at them breaking the law you break the law you with the league and negative light if you get pulled over with you know. Boxes of it like was it neat new his car was stacked with that. Thank you out of it that's trafficking you're not allowed to do that. So you're rested we're gonna discipline you for getting arrested but page view showed up the training camp and it turns out. I don't know you smoke weed on the side. We're gonna stop testing for that until we notice it we if if but quite a jet team policies. Instead of the leak if the bills noticed you know ourselves out of shape he's not committed he's missed practices he's late. We're gonna see what's going on there but everything else everything is fine he's a tent cities at practice he's doing his job. Oh why. The other with a bills unhappy with his perform which is at play can be doing right now at a job where they don't have drug that bright at play and your. But still operating at a 100% but we're not gonna go and try to find something advocate to our next call here Cho in Pennsylvania your on WGR. Right ahead. They get to mark our guys dropped out and got. Me here that to what I want to make. Are so I think as. What what's the point about it. Goes back the last piece to do it I think we think goes off to college now. We won't see these guys what he met that now it is yet to another belt belt which act. And we that you're. Good at. Would go to court I would look into it to bury all right guys. Yeah it's okay. We understand okay we actually test for that and we spend at least. I heard. They get. But he. They'd be at what our. They set at one. Yeah and adults. That are there and herb was doing and they met at the route they were reported. I think debt in Europe and that no immediate problem be looked at it yeah I think it is. More widespread than ever there's more people using the towel and and it it's Smart idea that they. People still have a negative connotation now like. It's great I I do I mean I have a negative connotation at two I would rate it's kind of like I have at Connecticut embarrassingly it's like gambling. But for the longest time gambling was illegal there. And then it became then you have got Nevada. And it and New Jersey and now I mean Canada you've got a different forms of it and then Delaware. And then casinos on reservations and I you can gamble everywhere. But it's illegal but I still feel guilty if I see somebody with a football betting slip. You know little slips yet games I put it like learn its fleet if it's illegal. But if anyone wants to gamble yeah you can gamble. You can gamble online like all like can't find the bills plus sport today yeah you can't. You can't and it still got the label and other still negative connotations other still negative consequences. Sure. But gambling has come along way when it comes to acceptability to the lions are in the newspaper you have ESPN and CBS they do their picks against the spread. Daily fantasy sports was just legalized in New York State. Which it. Pretty light fought to begin with the NFL runs its own fantasy football league where you bet money on their players they pretend it's not gambling. But it is so gambling went from you could only fly to that destination and do it to a pretty much for your couch your fine. Like I think marijuana might have the same path eventually. Get a break in the ground holding out more calls you know real fat fifty join us to bills training camp at saint John Fisher and she are. The outfield but it kept laughing here we didn't sound like Howard is stuck in the fifties. But this reefer madness mentality likely to get back. Funny you bring that up and had to watch that movie in elementary school I I swear I think its start me for life you know it's a I'm I'm at. It's in the back of my mind somewhere that stupid movie about how you would turn into a human being eating monster if you just if you tried this stuff. Dennis in buffalo you're on W Jiaka read ahead. My guys idea that is. I gotta tag I disagree here hey Jeremy to me some light. You're making the players like that little kid that gets in Charlotte that's up the wrong but he goes almost brand new mom and his friends the NHL and the LP. But you're a parent is saying well these are the rules if you wanna live here you got to abide by them all and get paid nine dollars dispute as well. Went to the millions of dollars have to do with any of it. Our storm that in their -- those are the rules as you wanna play and read I'm aware of that do you believe those rules should stay in place we deal. I I understand that I'm not arguing that there should be punishment while the rules on the books do you believe the rule should stay in place. And I disagree I mean. I don't know I disagree with it but I just that committee that's the rookie wanna play in the league got the rule yeah. I do I get that and you know but the whole time I've Philip kotsay the slug thank you Dennis I've I've retailers like I am not suggesting. That Marshall there should not be suspended. I am suggesting that the NFL should at the end of the league year because they've already got guys suspended this year or immediately say we're no longer going to test for it. Or just quietly do. At the end of this league here just should I take it out nobody say anything. And then hey you know nobody's been suspended for marijuana like for you guys took it out didn't we wouldn't even notice no one nothing would be different. Except your players to be playing and you would stop drawing attention to the fact that your players are using this but what if it's my contention other leagues are doing this. The players are doing it and there are not drawing attention to it because they realize it does not hurt their product. Bryant treated enemy gets a call through the league says no to recreational marijuana use but says yes. Letting guys banged their heads out for days' notice on a Thursday night. Will they also prescribe OP Lloyds. And an incredible these guys are pomp with her with drugs. With chemicals drugs prescription drugs the NFL tells them which painkillers they can take and suspends them brother ones. When the ones that they prescribe often more damaging. To your body they do like it in serious damage to your internal organs and these players but I'm sorry if I want these players to be allowed to say. Instead of your pain killer instead of that one I'd like to just political I'd do this more and the that the problems are. Larry Johnson Larry good thing I'm gonna get right to John treated in pot zero deaths boosted painkillers. Caused that every month so. I Larry in to the locker you're up next here a double did you go right ahead. Ought to white guys are you know until we writes I totally agree with Jack. I don't think it should be a rule I think it should be legalized. I'm 62 years old like not smoked a little might. We don't act like out. A bit either here or there it if they apologize and achieved OJ walked under an example as a rule. Don't do it on dual alternately if I got to be Smart to. Right he's not but he's not debating that enemy it was a year he agrees that he selfish and stupor for nordic. It's the rule itself and and not the speaker's chair retired but Larry the point is that the rule itself he thinks of your book. Know what this agreement RS's is ebit as a rule stop smoking while the rules on the books. Exactly and it ended up but the gators are dumb rule cannot. You ought to alcoholism bigger problem that bad about it but what they want they don't have 62 years helped it in a way to see his daughter ready. I feel like right now it's like a lot of dispute she just got what. Put off an up lawyers say it is you might need some of that stuff from the old days adjusted each and every article that are the preceding Gault. I'll keep you guys don't like I would practice cease first stringers like we have to get all you have to practice element species can get a popular Jamal. But I'll tell ya I do which is what we were against these guys by the thought they don't know but now they're not bigger and older Adolor job. I know and and the problem is with. With everything Larry thanks and everything else going on with it the injuries and suspensions and all the stuff three preceding games you'll like eternity right now. In it does hurt it it's immediate jobs. Year you're running that marathon and man you wish you were at the finish line that you feel like you're still you're brought to twenty miles you're familiar started. Like let's jobs get the right. Eugene Monroe is a retired NFL player he is a big advocate for. Candidates whenever merit as a alternative to what the NFL currently prescribes and uses. And he we got a link that 71% of NFL players who reported taking all your eggs which would be to prescribe the team. 71% admit abusing them. But the NFL wouldn't do there's nothing to. They don't have a problem that you can abuse though it as the falcon and use those as a league and those out so another like I got from from each human rights and to Matthew and I I I can't listen to because we're here but it. He looked good. Matthew it is. What is it that you're gonna play coming back is that how at how good is it. Right now all right. Well right now. And tiger to whoever also was Casey go home. Ownership circle within the NFL what what they'd stay removed executive is that they would do such defeat. A week away almost completely with marijuana testing in fact one of those two sources that they believe that the marijuana doesn't at this point. Compared to what happens in the NBA and other sports is almost always. One of the things if that's what the source also says is that wave at your tree player in Joliet rubber workers counterproductive. For example of that person's sport out was Randy Gregory the defense out and with the Dallas Cowboys who continue to test that's positive. And now gone into rehab with the complaint here is afraid to get. Even longer suspension from the NFL and this current four game suspension for this season. Guess what so the league thinks it's embarrassing and silly guess what. Say thank you thank you Jason Cole I just heard yeah he's on the show great so we could ask him about it from the Bleacher Report. I would so I was actually surprised to hear those comments that the owners owners think it's silly and that humiliate their players over that. All right I've got to assure Jennifer was our first caller is not still listening if you are that's my point. The league chooses to embarrass itself and humiliate its players and shouldn't do. But you're on old hay out of order calls made up real bucket to join us 888550 to 550 salad 730. Doug Whaley at 815 obviously thought about that. And chocolate not on WG. Yeah he'll fight TP WGR buffalo and WK SCH DT Niagara Falls buffalo. It's not an airport window world of buffalo. Or. The end of the summer you study about all extra thing about winter if you're thinking about with bills that are shot in your home. And it won't last through another winter with a winter rather at that time a year we.