Nov 8, 2016|
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John Murphy. Murphy show. I'm gonna want to go drive welcome to our one buffalo studio John Murphy Dow Jones reiterated trucks are built football of course. Last night's game bills loss at Seattle happen everywhere this here today whether you're tuned in on our. Radio station our flagship in buffalo WGR Sports Radio 550 or perhaps tuned into the signed a cast on them amnesty happy to be here with you today. Long night going to be a fun day with here regards John Murphy and Donald Jones in the give us call phone lines open 8030550. The number. Told free from outside buffalo 1888552. By fifty. Or can join us right Twitter at John Murphy showed Donald. Good afternoon have to confess human speaker me a little bit today. And because Judith and Daniel long flight no long flight plane landed at six did a couple of real things this morning and urea are rated ago but this that I removal. A duet to vote yes I was gonna do it on the way here but a bigger better getting here in and get this thing role. What there's a lot of talk about in this game man is elected in a lot of what a group Wednesday there's a lot of she's on this cracker. If there's a lot of mean on this phone there's just so much to talk about Indus. The just a disturbing game on and so many levels the way the bills play the waiting game is officiated the situation they're in now. And all of that is fair game and in up for discussion. I think what to the start with Donald the one thing that strikes me I guess first and foremost and and I it was a dumb guys are using the losses don't bother me too much lessons by the me mostly because. If they have won that game it in the way they were poised to do it if they had scored the touchdown kicked in at two point one the game. I think that was a type a win that could propel this team. To a great second after the season I mean just good but great to win on the road in their tough environment. To win in front of that hostile crowd to a two to win against an outstanding defense like this Seattle Seahawks head. A win there and and it was right there within their grasp at the end you know first and goal at the nine yard line to win there to come back and when there. I think would have been likeness signature win a major win moving forward. And it's on it's it's not a win and that more than anything that's what bothered me about that there's a. I think you're right I think when you when you think about being on the road in the Monday night in Seattle like he says. To beat that team especially going into the bye week seemingly getting healthy. You talk about seedy looking good in the game you talk about Robert Woods. Have been you know his breakout game of his career. It seems like guys are getting healthy and if you won that game going into the bye week the momentum would have been huge. You know going in today at Cincinnati game or coming back next week for practice going into this Cincinnati game. That is what you need going until I reached halfway through the season so it's disappointing like usage to lose that game. Because now you've lost three straight on you'd yet one forestry and I lost three streak on its about a week. As hostess it's wholly different mentality it's totally different thought process. Coming out of the bye week and and going into this. You know cute and it is released second half of the season. He announced in and we have to win every game. You know that to make it to the playoffs and so that's a tough thing to do your talking about six straight games it's not easy to do but. The team played the team. For the most part played well last night they did they play well on the role they played well and hostile environment we talked about how loud that place would be and and it showed up at times undated. And especially dead it showed up but. I think they played well man but there's like you said there's so many things to talk about today. There's a lot of ups and downs from their game. Team wise individually. You know and fell wise and a tool here some some of that from the callers today so. Let's get ago. Yeah and and again that the opportunity that was there to be down there in that situation did possibly get a comeback win against agreed opponent. And as you said that instead come out with a three game losing streak going into the bye week it's it's it's crushing it it feels scratching on this Tuesday there after game. And it is it. I mean people wanna hear this today but. You pointed out there's a lot of season left you know the seven games. Left this season all against AFC teams so everything is in front of them in terms of what the conference. A standings might be. That they have to win out while they at least have to win six of the seven you think right to get into ten wins and when he now wooden would help a lot obviously. So if it's it feels crushing. And in in the wreckage of that game I'm here to tell yet. It was not a crushing blow was not the finishing blow. The Buffalo's playoff chances launcher folks wanna weigh in on this and you may wanna do it by Twitter we have a Twitter poll that is up from my last night's game and it's pretty simple. Just a way to engage you know people get them talking about it a what was your biggest take away. From last night's bills game. And anyway you want interpret that what was your biggest tech where once it inconsistent defense. Was it the big game the Tyrod Taylor had was it inconsistency on special teams. Or was it officiating and right now with over 500 votes and 56% say officiating was their biggest takeaways in that game 25% say inconsistent defense. 18% say tyrants big game 1% series a special teams inconsistencies I'm gonna. Five of alternative vary from what the where the majority's going down because. My biggest takeaways first the bills are concerned is an inconsistent defense. Even within the game for staff the second half they get up forty yards of offense the Seattle in the second. I don't care how offensively challenged via the Seahawks might be that its outstanding defense they were doing a great job primarily upfront. And yet in the first half they were getting torched again. Dislike Ryan Fitzpatrick did just like Tom Brady did thumb and it with its. So now we got nine games of the Buffalo Bills defense and of those nine Durbin four games with a defense is really really let them down. Talking about the jets game. The Miami game the the game against suing them and last night at least in the first deaths so three and a half games in the first nine games with a defense is. Is really not played it level that allows him to win. So the bills nine games and are the thirteenth ranked defense you know number one insects and I would submit that they're they're problems right now and it is amazing is that might sound. Their problems right now lie and the defense of side of the ball in particular on the back into the defense I don't understand what's going on the back into the defense there. Yeah I mean. I don't understand indeed you know the biggest let down this year have come from the back after the defense the front. You know the front seven those guys up front there did their jobs done for the most part you know with the let down in Miami. Aside from that man those guys did their jobs done the shutting down the runs that getting to the quarterbacks. Consistently every single week did you mean multiple sites every single week you get pressure from from shaft. So this is what those guys doing up front. That back half of that defense is really not matching now understand that Russell Wilson is a great quarterback you know he can drop the ball. Right in the bucket he puts it right where he wanted to be you know he throws touch passes over the defense is paid. Jimmy Graham is that is a great tied in he catches you know he makes 21 and potentially yeah it's unbelievable catches he makes those who catches in the guys electorate all over from all over his back and it's as sometimes is nothing you can do with that. But. When there is. Right now every single time the ball goes up in the air and it's down field. I'm praying MacArthur I really am right now and enabled it to her yet I want all these earthly. And it they shouldn't be like dead in the UC if it's not a completion it's either like past an affair at the something like that like I. This is not what we expected opponents of this season out of our corners and and and our safety as is not we expected these guys are supposed to be amongst. The top corners and safeties in the league. And that's not what we're seeing right now so I don't know what's going on back if it be really happy getting going and get it together because coming out of bye week you have AJ green. They're going to take shots at AJ green and he kept his most of those shots down the field and he's giving one etiquette threat he uttered in the programme at the right you know he's in the top five receivers in the no absolutely calm and so you have to they have to get it together about it. Or it's just going to be a long season for for the cup. All the tweets on this issued union and kind of plane into what we we're just talking about bill strict tweets and you should have a category specifically calling out the DB's. They were the worst part of the team last night very bad hum. Chris brunt secondary is soft. And third and four they're twelve years twelve yards off the wide receivers. Same old seven and niners and rich tweets in secondaries so bad yet that's. To me that that it's stunning when you think about what was perceived to be a strength going into the season not that long ago and back on September 10 September 11 on the season began. Is now like their biggest weakness apparently based on the results from the jets game and and the patriots game in and last night's perceptions of its. Three three games that where the secondary it's been really bad bad enough so that the bills don't have a chance it to fight back in the second half list last night. They did get much better defense in the second half. The Seahawks did go to the ground more and try to burn more clock in the second half but that you're since I didn't see that comment a resiliency that. Let's go ahead what. And either I think. I think you know first of all the loss of Aaron wins in me a premed that is used for the Baghdad back half of it defense. Secondly. Even when the guys are up in and the receivers faces yesterday they weren't in their hands on him they were just didn't turn around you know so you see Darby. It turned around multiple times even when he was back off the receiver. He got turned around and that's why I don't understand it Kelso mark Kelso he talks about that a lot in the technique that the planet right now but edges. Any time as a receiver if I get to turn around. You DB I have number because once he has to do based water I can go anyway I wanna go he has that's return all the way around and locate me again. I'm so I don't know what the technique is right now but that's something that they have to get together. And I think the loss of air Williams right now. Is not only affecting the defense and we talked about this in office it's affecting the specialties because you have guys that are. Normal special teams guys that are now having to focus on the defense and not focus as much on the special teams. And the specialty was that was a let down yesterday aside from the block on the beginning of the game after that we talked about Lockett beat in a good return guy and he showed up yesterday he continuously put them in great field position. You cannot do Seattle the ball at 3540 yard line every single time. And expect to set them down they did in the second half that but he said they were trying to run the clock but. It's tough man Russell Wilson he throws the ball downfield one time you catch it where you get a pass an affair it's seniority in the red zone you know Solis. It's tough mandate that that loss of airwaves really huge for the state. Tough loss last night 31250. Loss to the Seattle Seahawks who wanna talk about it if you excuse me phone lines open in all three. 0515 and number toll free 1888550. To 550 start with TJ in west Seneca go to TJ here in the air. Hey guys up here and Java I agree with Q it's been consistent champion of the big Arctic would be restricted those of course they haute and everybody. It's it's like we at the sample size now I don't think you'll want to assert our quarterback Bernie. Now that I I wouldn't insert current and next year I I I know that he's been consistent. It's been such precautions somewhere. And I altered Dartmouth captain apparently you either sick or they all of them like the soccer or Courter by. You're worried are you concerned with giving out. 2530. Yards when they're underneath where you know Carsten ball of smoke and wondered east or their normal but our computer getting catch interference calls. What a picnic where it hurts stated that the popular personally what words that came out and he. Don't eat it horsepower and Robert that we run to card our next year because you haven't seen and how he. It often cheaper and so. TJ good points all the might their practice to agree with everything you said including. You know the futures Stephon Gilmore and if someone wants a payment on money next year have that I don't that clearly is not played this year. First nine games like the other guy who didn't command premium money and yet. Somebody is likely to claim that. It's it's I wanna get to Samir of the points including Robert Woods but. It it's amazing the deterioration of the defense and backfield me at will right now journal in its output. Undersea Ronald Darby struggle when he's been out there a couple of times if you are sick last night OK the C Gilmore played the way he has. You know the back ups you know Corey white is a it is okay in this you know capable back up but dumb. I don't know I can put my finger on Donald I don't know what the issue is Donnie Henderson left was he was he the guy that they held a group together that got that group to play well the last couple years. He could've been in the united mine 72 total this total different technique that really work for those guys Presley like Darby who was who had a good season last year you know lomb. It could be him it could be. I don't know what it is to be honest and right now. They're not playing with any confidence I can tell you that yes you can tell they they don't have any confidence back beer. And they still look confused every single week it was confusing me and the back half of that defense you see like Mattel ruby komen he's like run around trying to figure out who is covering. You see the safeties coming down the run and across the field trying to figure it out. I mean. And then you see be played big plays down the middle of the field because guys are not they're confused out there and understand the crowd noise the crowd was doesn't get into with her because their office right to so. I just have communication problems. I'm whatever it's too complex what threats and do the coverages you know be a bit who put it to the confusion right in the look of confusion yeah I want her and could be I wonder if it's just. In too many calls too much going on they want to do too much I don't know but it it really troubling it is prevent them from every chance to win now in. In four games this year at least three games. The defense of backfield. We talked about it what what we did that's wonderful. We. Last week we talked about what it would take as far as points wise to beat them. And you know yeah I said of Colombia ties or get a team you like thirteenth and what you weren't alone a lot of people like this is going to be defense that matchup. The defense of game and it's gonna come down today in the game. And it was a shoot out like it is Jamie was a shoot out and and it was high scoring game. Both the defense has been playing well you know they did I mean Seattle's defense came up big get into the game. But. Man is is our defense. The back half of that defense there has to be improvement moving forward at this team wants to win games. They wanna make it too well as the back half of the defense has the play better this does not happen. Takeaways from last night's game what he got what did you see in 030550. The number toll free 1888550. To 550. Or can do it on Twitter account repeat show you can vote and it would ripple there as well on the show today were gonna hear from Chris Brown bills insider from Buffalo Bills that come. He'll be joining us at though 1 o'clock today and Rex Ryan will hold a conference call with the local media coming up around. 2 o'clock today will tap into that Nancy what's on wrecked his mind the day after the 31 point five loss to the Seattle Seahawks in the meantime let's talk with you your takeaways. Dumb and the takeaways can be positive through doubt and it's again the wreckage of a a loss like that third straight loss. It's it's not all bad. Tyrod Taylor at the plea pretty while 2730 passing that the touchdown 289 yards. But Tyrod may have played it that I do think he played his best game of the year. Ran for the early touchdown. And that's a pretty good defense he was doing and again I think you saw the field well more than he has in the past he was able to find receivers. Over the middle. I thought Tyrod Taylor played pretty good game is best of the year Robert Woods I think had a career game yesterday and last night. And wants it to yet big numbers and and big plays and run after the catch and even blocking as he does so well on the run game. I thought Robert Woods had his his biggest game and actually I think mark he's good with. At a big game for two you know the numbers don't of popularize a four catches 43 yards a tough catches sideline catches. And traffic catches and bounced right back up so wasn't all bad yesterday we wanna get from your thoughts on the takeaways we give me your thoughts on on those three at least on the offensive side of the ball. It's our teller yesterday I mean he. Timmy he's he's been doing this all year he did see the field a lot better yesterday he was hitting guys. Eight UNC to me over throws and I did overthrow Robert wasn't in zone which. You know commitments I mean he was open he could have him dammit in the us now he slid into the wall. But other than that and he you know he was hitting guys he was seeing guys. Robber was came up big yesterday he I mean. He was catching everything he was running after the cats. You see that right beer terrorized he ran up the middle and took it trees Shia. But he gave his body up escorted just out two point conversion. Yeah. I think. What's can beat shady. Yes he's played well yesterday coming off the hamstring injury and he looks like he's you know coming back into himself. He was an all himself yesterday but he looks like he's coming back until he looked good yesterday. Marquis still went make him beat Texas on the sideline you know that was huge was those guys were hoping to move the chains. Chains to Rome film played well yesterday I'm opening up holes. He played good for pursue eighty. I mean across the board for the most part the offense played well. They really do they they score points they move the chains they held the ball mean the time possession. It was 2140 degrees and ninety minutes ahead man that's I mean you're you're talking we've been talking about that all season has the right team and we're not controlling the game. The clock and yesterday we had long 910 minute drive so that was big yes and ethnic off physically well. The defense too as was not able to hold those guys. And and that's the real takeaways from this game aside from. Everybody wants to get into the officiating is a photo story is yeah we're gonna get into that but in the talk about our team I think the authors believe. Play well Gaza getting help yeah I think that's big coming out of the bye week they have to contain. Mike knows he's another guy he you know he picked up first downs and hours he ran hard when they gave the ball I think he played well. The right I mean the Marlins aren't open holes. Speaking of officiating have been Astro the Namibia on the website footballs he Griswold join us at 130 our producer. Pierce is tells me so well a lot to chew on there as well what I hear from you but we also wanna hear from some of the young black room saw last night Tyrod Taylor took to the podium last night. And he talked about the offense of playing in particular talked about the play of his teammate Robert Woods and woods outstanding game last night. Role was as a feisty guy on the competitive guy on the he wants the football when is going on did a lot of things were actually do and I play his butt off today come. You know to Korea different. Of course who grew up until then when it fashioned but I definitely happy for him and sees progress on this season has gone. It's. That's here and it myself. Here. I don't know I think we did a lot of good things against a secondary especially route retain. I think we've done. A lot of good things against second and different. And you. For sure chrome. I just had the big can big picture things that we still. With the progress we have to dig down deep. I'm just association ousted and is probably keep everybody focused become a quick to write Morris the deceased is not over that we still do the things we wanted to do. I'm going to season and I'm excited me we have. What you guys want to talk to doesn't Hussein we just have to. Get it going in kitty going in the right direction. Who lost moron yeah. So. Right there. I'm Odyssey and we've done a bunch of good things this game is definitely some some good. To come from as far as watching him wrong just got to learn from it. Appointment of four. Under total yardage I think it was above or under we just didn't do enough to win that game definitely said. Much of positives in that we should do. And mark just disappointed that we lost because it. To sort of not do deficit that we were gonna win. Tyrod Taylor in the post game interview area last night at century link field it he answered and a my one question in and I think in the wreckage of of of a loss like this it's important to note that. The tyrants that that things definitely within our grasp. You know. We we have to get it going in the right direction there's still time. Very difficult to absorb that message after a loss like that though clearly a sick call here from Erin in Niagara Falls when Erin your on the year. Yeah a gentleman John Maria I feel your pain greens aren't done that crop country red arc lights. Are appearing in America. Obviously I've wondered if you are two things. Beat up in the box servers. And Hartnell our stride of the of the game now and I think they were on that one RD yard line. And that I think there's wore white coat and somebody was in the law and they and they render he wrote to the end zone and firearm holder was right. I think he ended up burning out of bounds they got receiver was wide open. I know Kyra I'm I'm it's over the tunnel vision. And I don't know peace in either prior opened in the end though he was just lately wide open the second thing was that dark Sherman's play it into the game. Now let a couple things on that's been an act of a video. It was where the first European and don't try and basically just knocked into the ground and he was ready to play. I'm wondering why there wasn't a. Yet two things yet I read listen guys and Vickers one play and I saw it way up in our broadcast with I said to my partner mark Kelso. Trust please wide open he didn't see him but that happens about as Tyrod miss guys in the past yeah. He has in I think he's he was much better at last night I hope that trend that he. Continues to see to feel a little bit better thought it was dramatically improved in that regard. Last night's Percy in the open guys. Now out of the last play of the game and Walt Powell essentially gets cold cocked by Richard Sherman down on the go one yard line. Hum legal play and have read all the explanations that you know once Tyrod it gets out of the pocket. All bets are rock you can. You can hit guys like that. But Donald. You can you can slow up all the Powell you can disrupt his route. You know that the fight your probation on contact no longer exists once that Tyrod escapes the pocket I get all that legally. But from a player to player standpoint this is an awful lot like the Jervis Landry hit. What is going on with these players I mean 22. It would Jerry used to call that he. He did I mean it was a total cheap shot out on wall Powell. It was an amazing cheap shot Tyrod in trouble gets outside the pocket maybe he'll run maybe he won't still eyes downfield and away from the play. It wasn't able you know the last the bills' offensive play away from the play it wasn't as if that the ball was going towards Walter Powell. It wasn't as if Richard Sherman was even involved in the play but Richard Sherman just. You know yardage to inside the goal line just it's like to my top players in some level have to take care of each other a lot better than that the OPEC. Yeah I mean you're right they had they had to take care it's I think right now we talked about servicer it was a Smart player he he knows the rules. Now for me. You you got to take care of each other as players and and he didn't hit him helmet elements I guess that's the only thing that you can say Polk air out of of of battle are not given them come I give them a gold medal what I do think it is because. If it's the play breaks down the field right and I'm a receiver. And I'm blocking down a few stadium court breaks it and he's running for sixty yards. And I just decide I wanna take somebody out behind the run nobody's gonna tackle him I wanna take somebody out there ought to throw a flag on the you know and and it's because that person has nothing to do with the play he can't he can't tackle CAD or anything like that I just decided I wanted and so for me. How is he able even though. He's broke outside the pocket how is he able to just feature receiver and take him. The Who knows he could still run across the field and get the ball sit Tyrod was actually he was wrong with those left waiting for somebody come open so he shouldn't be able to just hit him so. There's inconsistencies in the rule book for me because you shouldn't be able to do is hit a receiver Tim fifteen yards down the field he's he's halfway into the end zone in the takes it like I just don't. It was allowing me to talk about about the missiles the other vessel would get into in this. We will next couple certain to load your weapon to join us we will get a lot more phone calls that we encourage you to join us that way 8030550. The number or. Told free from outside buffalo 1888550. To 550. Or via Twitter expand your vote always counts it's time right now to vote for the blue record energy player of the week powered by. Iraq energy the official electricity supplier of the bills. 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Putting Gilbert dot edu slash open house John Murphy Donald Jones we live at one bills drive one buffalo studio ebony heavy in the audience whether it's on the radio. Side on our flagship WGR which radio by fifty. After tuned into the simulcast on ME ST I apologize for the bags under my guys if that is cakes right up there and pocket and you understand it you know. And you can get it. The attention Davies now not motivated me. Let's take a phone call a little giddy to have a little apology. 80305 that all Twitter poll we have the Twitter poll that is up right now watch to weigh in on this and imaging go anyway you want on this positive negative neutral. What's your biggest take away from last night's game there's so much going on in that game so many yum. Consequences of that loss yesterday so what's the biggest thing you take away from that last night bills game 900 votes him. 55% of you are the talking about the officiating understandable 28% of respondents were toward polls say yeah. Inconsistent defense 17%. Say tyrants big game and nobody says special teams in consistent no doubt that your thing. People overlook this doesn't they really do these people overlook. The fact that Lackey. Continuously had B colonel who are first of all we blocked the punt yet that's huge and we did the beginning of the game you block a point and you score a touchdown off of that. In like five seconds yes. And then. After that the special teams went downhill because locked you have to we kept taken into which was. Kind of mind boggling to me by. Lackey kept getting beat returns in putting that team angry fill positions they only had half the field ago you know so that's huge everybody wants to say look at the officials that's something that stood up and everybody was talking about last night. The defense to DB's that stands out everybody's talking about that which you have to understand the big picture of the gain special teams is huge in that they have a big returner. And he keeps all and we keep kicking it's on me he keeps getting big returns out of it that as a huge piece of the date field position them they'll definitely went a Seattle's way a call here from Steve in Rochester I Steve go ahead. Any candidate Donald. All. I guess a lot of the you know first at all. I love this show and it's very ours off at intimidating the controversies unless it's game shouldn't be Capital One day game at six or shorted. That's a little OK let's find somebody's in my notes on the ambulance that Israel is you have this show take the name but I'm gone home through the open at the open out. It from the game last night I got crushed and ground here at all. All pork Robert Gates. On TV he seemed to be true in a lot of the action and knee and the tight and national army and its responsibilities were Rambo. At that press and round at a port to arm and warrior culture earlier commented Stephon Gilmore. At all I'm Graham when he jumps their role from. He seemed to just walk toward them and it all works almost was asking him to jump over immediately if this had. His and that aren't you know that the act won't and then he turned around and watched him run away from them. I it's horrible that he's tracking the play. Oddball lol he doesn't want. Patrick proper permits in the top five and it's I think he's willing to take eight Indian and someone else. On put that in my left arm and is it fair woods who I believe is one of the heart along with Caroline and locked girl went down I just saw the bill. Jeanne. Got shot that he can is that a replacement or did a horrible chapter Matt Moore took over the game once 11 well. And the hospital black Indians seem to block the saints. Milk a couple times got all right around my app world it was born early in the speech but. Went air went down the lights in net changes seem to just. Disappear. Looks weird that I'm happy and great. Okay shall I. Some thoughts on the whipping ago. The I think when. The one of the things that I guess sticks out to me was clear favorite whipping people. People some people on. Their defense and how did it defense of front it is especially cliff April they didn't have been which is huge for us. But classical to show we talked about it they put cliff if they look at the Miami film they're going to put it in rule on Jordan knows side. And if the bills indeed him help as far as chipping in you know trying to give him some help homicide you see him give up a couple of sites and we saw they have. An and sometimes listen. Those guys get paid they are great players Jimmy Graham is a great player he'd like he's athletic probably the most athletic tied to in the lead. And he came back off of that knee injury probably did you know I guess like best comeback of the year type of being at the in season but you look at that tackle. Then on stuff on this. You know that's. It happens as the tide is that would every week and is because. The technique in tackling is not there you know I I think Stephon has played he has a play good this year at all. He really has come he's missed a lot of tackles he's given up a lot of yards. When you look at that when you gotta give some of the to Jimmy Grammy look at those two catches that he does to test them. That he had I mean those are one hand it catches we guys all over this is. What else can you do aunt and Russell Wilson put the ball right where he needed it to be two cats who won and so is does not enough that you can do and I'm not giving his defense the past at all because they really didn't play good. But some of it you have to understand that these guys are great players they get paid on the other side of the ball as well. To Stephen registers point about the would injury that came on the guilty touchdown run off I can agree that. You know that the air was sucked out of the balloon or whatever Steve says because you don't think they fought back they had a long drive that that wound up what and upon and then of course the the potential gain much tying maybe game winning drive. With Roy and they're not dancing Roy is the equal of or would be probably not and I'm not discounting the impact in the media. You know that the leadership capability that Eric Wood has because he has a tremendous leader however hum I thought they fought back I don't think there was a team like let down once or would when did you. Not at and I'd and Fiat at all and remember when it happened in my that's a huge loss. And when when Greg came in you know he he did or. Felt like did the team still move the ball. It's just once they got down to that part of the field is tough to score on that defense and rental I mean they still have the long drive it into the game and we're in position escorts us now. When you get down there against that defense it is hard to score points room and so that's what you saw him. He shouldn't even have been in the position to. Escorts a stand certificate and if so that's that's another story a little boy. That's how we can put an operating you're Smart report and definitely get some phone calls. I don't lot of focus on officiating is the reason for the Buffalo Bills lost in the officiating terrible. It's that sequence it in the first set was a debacle to jail. Play your thoughts and I had thoughts on that officiating crew going into the game and try to get let's say it on the electric ghetto talk and you crew was a mess. That crew cost the Detroit Lions game lets you rate you know with a ball was swatted out of the back the end zone Calvin Johnson fumbled the right yeah yeah then was that crew that was the backyards and they recruit were reprimanded the accurate or you know the Specter it's bad move to another that set down for a week. They're awful yesterday where that's not the bills' loss they were. You know with with crazy it seems like every year Seattle it's one of these game winner and using and they come around again it comes down to something like that and it's like. What is happening right just got robbed a team Disco robbed out of a win and it's always in Seattle and a prime time game how do what it is umpire you know it's a seems to happen like that in the year Derrick calling from Poughkeepsie hello Derek welcome the show. Hey my god you are under. Ice. Both. I'm a little surprise here. One I'll talk about Gramm. I thought it hard. They're ground I I don't what her car down. So that that seven points there I mean. Tyrod. Quote well then so good and Robert Wood. Hit a game shall march. I loved it below that and double play on carpet here. Sorry. Got this thing over here are not turned dark I. And that plan carpenter they really. I. Let's talk about that we've been. Even gets around that for the first forty minutes or so the showdown but the just to debacle in every respect so let's start with Richard Sherman jumped off sides coming off the edge. No he's offside. And continues to to go in in any appeared to me he clearly. Does dole voted in carpenter's way his right leg and he got a bomb. It's offside yes I think it should have also meant there is no reason why could not have also been unnecessary roughness. Or roughing the kicker bomb was in an attempt to block I guess Sherman argued that it was to block the kick but. You know I've heard I heard apologist for Richard Sherman today this morning talking about how he had nothing to lose. He knew it was offside. And that you know Ali could do was go for the block knowing that he was outside and figuring they get another chance to kick since he was offs. Again this goes to Rome. Players taking care of each other yet which I think is missing and well in the and you get to this situation where you know the bills have to get carburetor off the field for one play. And then they spike it and then you know they use too much time the clock runs out too much time and there were problems getting the ball says I understand they were trying to a to get the K ball in there the kick involved east but they stood over the ball. Until there what six seconds five seconds left on the play clock stood over the ball you you couldn't snippet. And all of a sudden the bills you know. Got called for delay of game and compound in the earlier here just the comedy of errors in the course. On the re kick a carpenter pushes it why do the right side in this which happened just a terrible sequence. Compound and also by yeah. That the spectacle of Walt Anderson saint they have is not over the burden onto the field. It was like it was like a cartoon game also was attempting to animal that was bad. I got so many text messages with in. That three minutes than ever many minutes that went on people like eight. These rest appointee and it was kind of like crazy like I got so many text messages is that that's at the same thing. And I'm like man I don't know if it's crazy to watch I don't know what to say right now from the start off with sermons though you know first of all how many times do you see guys come around the corner. They dive in front in across state or local story at the kickers now you can't tell me. That you were trying to go for the block comes argued you went straight for the kicker who infect Marv Levy and groups behavior in the great special teams coaches and of the league we'll tell you. You'll aim for a point where the ball DP you don't go exactly right you don't aim for point. Right so UK UK gimme that you can't say I was going off the black house all sides I had nothing to lose. You were intentionally trying to go at the ticker at all sides here. A clinical Slovak and I'm gonna go right at his lake. They don't normally go that that. Route they normally dive straight across like you sit at a point and they're trying to block that's lot of kickers never did it awhile on this play you decide you wanna go for so Clinton not did. The unnecessary roughness whatever is to have been. Well team they Dino said it should men and answer this right though director of officiating so now that's a fifteen yard penalty that don't you. Did you stand over the ball. Like you said and the clock goes down to six seconds in you get a delay games on it he makes the Phil though actually he accidently kicked it immediate need to move them back five yards. And now it's what 53 yards something like that that he has to make. And now he missed. And and it was. As far as standing over the ball. I realize you've got you know. Chaos going out there you stand over the ball because you probably just replace it with a cable to lose no T ball on the definitely in spite. Okay now okay now we got to get became ball in their I get it. Which involves you stand over the ball reset the clock reads this right through the in Brazil and every day read. At the clock. There there was no reset of the clock at all but he stood over the ball and and they just went with it. He knows I don't know apparently it was our dad so you talk about now that's a three point now you've had you've made a field goal going into halftime. And now at the end of the game. You're in a position now I only had to do with ticket Google to tidy game and take you take your chances in overtime. You know that's the position at the dosage have been and instead of trying to have the score. Our hearts instead of having to score a touchdown right at in the game against that defense which you can score against those guys but is this tough to do you shouldn't have been in that position. Should I we're gonna break come back with more we got there Chris Brown coming up at 1 o'clock today we're gonna hope to hear from a Thurman Thomas we're gonna talk with. Let us grow from NFL receivers. Football zebras dot com talked about all this afternoon. Your former trials and after 2 o'clock. Your phone calls welcome also. John Murphy Donald Jones Jeff Murphy show presented by no go from one bills drive a Buffalo Bills tree. That John Murphy show on Buffalo Bills radio. Down buffalo right to. First drive of the game the first game at three yard touchdown run. You hurt by Tyrod Taylor. Score from the un realistic red zone is it not realistic dot com to score and all of your realistic means fast start in the game for buffalo blocked punt. Aaron Taylor touchdown run and listen in myself. And. And in some ready for all the equipment. That I was you probably still excited from blog blog on knobs and tyra run in the end zone. Paper that is making it happen fast we finally got the show fleshed out today reported by fifty minutes into the show so Chris Brown's gonna join us at. 1 o'clock today we're gonna pick up or Rex Ryan's 0130 actually we have been Astro football team respect them. Gonna pick up restaurant conference call it the 2 o'clock and Thurman Thomas although we don't it's around 215. So with the minutes ago the first hour the trouble with. My money I don't know if we finally know if it is epic and just take a call here from a Jimmy and Hamburg I Jimmy Rainier. I don't you and I wouldn't Donald. And this particular love it I'm gonna keep doing the original call that that a lot of talk about an auto the broken record with Germany during bottom. One thing I can understand I don't this is an electorate that you can understand. You don't know if you know the giants say that the brotherhood. You know but how after the game after that would lead as you go to actually it and I mean I would Cilic cute he put them and I you know I don't have nothing against I figured great skiing. It's just let first. What happened Imus is Tyrus the united jerseys with the when he might asserted jitters in the Sherman I did see Sherman. Looking for Tyrod after the game I always Gilmore was a Gilmore an assortment and our producer. All I this should territory mr. you have those who knew with him and I think it. After. I I mean I'm sure he's not like that I give it but I can't even look at that guy I wanna go up to me it didn't practice. I don't understand that Tom what anxiously at Richmond and an art it's. The Twitter hole. I'm I think there's a lot of positive and it scared. I think that they'll never looked like they were out of this game I think their father hired. And like the one scholarship player would I think it but it in the end there. That but it works so good routes that the actual raw meat beat you know so we can recruit militarist. CD down on the world's I believe I'll be would have better success with that. Let's give adults and you know Mike my broadcast partner in the game mark council old school guy that he is. He came away with a take away too like why these days Teamsters. Yeah I mean I think. You know the athletes today. There's a little bit different than souls who athlete and that's across all sports you know you go to basketball since the total different game look at baseball's total different game. Even hockey Hussein you know they don't find as much and Iraqis needed back in the day. I think you football instance. I don't know what it is now as it's become a trend of guys actually exchanging jerseys after the game. They take pictures with each other's jerseys be key pitchers Judy go home and and jerseys out so. At some point you know once they retire the don'ts of these these guys homes and and I captors actually you go to these guys homes to trade him and yield game. I think that's what I've yet that's what really bothers a lot of people spent stressed it was servant does indeed in the game. An and he's like. He's like I mean mugging it coats. And everything talk and note the coaches I mean after that it's like. Brad not Tennessee and exchanged jerseys with you. You know I come from more of even Amon new school player I still have that old school mentality I hate the rules. Really hate losing so after the game I really don't wanna talk to anybody I'm I'm running off the field I don't have anything to see eighty right now we can talk in the offseason we'll probably end of training together some like that. But right now I'm upset I'm upset by what you did on the field and and the fact that we just lost because it partly because of what you do on the field so. Yeah I just don't get I would like to talk with Thurman a lot of the older players from the ninety's and this Haiti's about how they feel. The players are today in the state enters season. You know I guess that they think everything's gotten soft and army United's new school that you think. I don't think have been I don't think I am and I'm constantly I really. I I tell people all the time I hate losing more than I like winning if that makes sense and as because always prepared well. And so the the feeling of losing a game this messy game like that as close I'm on prime time when everybody's Watson as we talked about it that was probably. The best primetime game this year to lose a game like that. It hurts. More than if you are a team that normally wins this is another win this another way. But when you moves that hurts and is supposed to hurt so we shouldn't be all after the game exchanging jerseys in jolly doubt though it. It's not like that right right back to where when I was same when we start the hour now. That it whip up the win last night in expansion and his score after personal and in the list the minute of the game I think would have. Who would have been like a rocket consecutive season and it's gone. Unfortunately we'll talk a lot more about this in the next hour Chris browns get a good this feels insider from Buffalo Bills that. Norman Thomas coming up on the show tonight we'll talk about issues and a growth. In order wrecked right we got a lot to do in the next couple hours here but your phone calls at 80305. If you were told free 1888. By 52 budget. John Murphy show presented by no go from one bills drive a Buffalo Bills treaty.