Dec 8, 2016|
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It's my children and a Bulldog. I would I was wondering if you like hot dogs. Yes but like great. But I prefer corn dogs because you don't need it on fourth. Here's the all around it and you keep you from stepped on WG. Sports Radio 550. Right future saying. First hour I think. When did dip. As is some. Maybe fans and some media are talking about like. Why aren't fans more hopeful old organized make a strong effort. To. Use our show to talk about emotions and feelings as opposed to like you know. I don't know schemes. To him not to who. Inside. Sold. People feel like they're left out of the conversation. And like everybody that's bet out of the stadium everybody that spends Sunday afternoons with the bills would have some. Feeling about like what ball some some comments about what it feels like to watch that you watch them in a group and one person in the group is really optimistic and just almost to the other guy sounding delusional the other guys go is way too negative and no matter. What the score is like pulled lawyers said earlier in the week about the raider game and it was 4049 to give a pit in your stomach. Would you rather than been losing 44 to nine C would Nevada stress. But it's employed here people changed so people might always have been one way or the other but at some point your people changed. Ends you know went. The dark side I'm on this thing to a point where now when they do have a pretty good team and we do have. A chance to make the playoffs are a chance to win games that a lot of those people don't wanna hear. Just don't bother me with us I I've not I'm not listening I'm not. You know I'm not gonna partake. We don't have Andrew were trying to reach Andrew and have. I've I've reached his voicemail few times. You know his voicemail. And texting them to tell him that. His voice well his was the first voice mail I think ever called where. You get it and then it's. Hey this is Andrew. Leave a message and maybe you'll get back to you but he was still maybe. And then that. Recorded voice will come on and say the sport of voice mailbox is full. And is not a telling anymore messages maybe I wrote the number down wrong because he does not have that kind of voice melts you have reached this number. Voicemail. Is what I've reached. And he is waiting for your call I don't know okay well I don't like get this deal. The way if we don't have Bulldog here to talk what to us. Yeah we don't yes and that contact info our some policy that okay can this gone here is what I'm doing this I'm sorry everyone I am writing his number down on paper. And then I'm gonna come off of my contacts page and go to York. Context page and then type it in time UTU. And this is awful. Don't imagine there's a holiday party later there is a holiday party later OK now if text you his number look at what a waste. Usually this is time that is spent way more responsibly. And they show. So yeah I mean about the emotions and you just how you. Feel old watching their games whether you feel there worlds that mark thanks or they think troubles but there were almost there. They were almost there. How you feel watching these games with a your optimistic or pessimistic and take the steeler game at 10%. When we get hooked up when Andrew. He was on with us for the season. And has supported think it is posting things that I think it's a team that will get till like week thirteen or fourteen in the left to run the table. And we are we are right there bills and Steelers Sunday one. You are gonna believe us. It's gone straight to voicemail. But this his voicemail I can confirm now I am text this is. The worst now I am texting him that number. OK Ryan. I'm texting him that number he's calling where he's going over here he's going over here. Who's gonna pay a phone. Give me something I can read here. Back newspapers here from a week ago. I feel like three home games here in the next three weeks couldn't at a bend. Player and better. Maybe not three not December. Games in a row especially considering. The the history. Where when we get to December it's often but you have to beat the Steelers battle with the key playoff hopes such as they are alive but to avoid. The possibility the increased possibility that the browns and dolphins games will keep people away where people will not. Even show up for those games RO. I have tickets is something I have a hard time not using them all slick burning them but. We're told about that one fantasy league I don't see a lightly at the tickets pretty. It is it's a lot but I I was in this one fantasy draft where. And hopefully we can get what interests we can hear discuss he would find his interest thing we there yet. Andrew. Yeah what has been what we're what do we know 15. Of that adventure. Listen to this were ordered after to have to cut ahead because this has just been amassed listen to this. So I IA. This is awesome. I drafted I filled in in a fantasy draft this year. And so most it was all the guys that I didn't know but I had this happened I was drafting with that and I was just wanting to do more dressed. So I go to this draft and I'm getting to know this group of guys and they tell me. That. The the guy who finishes last in the league like the regular season is over and most fantasy football leagues who whoever finished last. Passed a goal. To the Christmas Eve dolphins bills game. And take a picture of himself there with the scoreboard. At zero that the game that you were there for the end of the game. How about that punishment how boat vet how about dolphins bills Christmas Eve. As punishment. What technical. One. The world. While there's been that is not the finished last. Where you understandings. Well. IE was just filling out. The guy that the guy that I draft for me the playoffs but I mean that is just a little bit that they're adjusted to illustrate. Life up here. That. That game that they can be thought of the the big right over my child. Good game yeah. Right get it away season game. In the division. With two weeks left in this season. Is so. It is it did it's it's such and gotten broad as competitive but it's an interesting game they subpar but. Continue to stick with investing time in a league where they knew they were gonna have a bad season. Just to avoid going to that game but take somebody. I don't think so. I but I mean isn't that amazing. Oh and this team was beaten eight last year and nine in seven the year before. So what do what do talking about Cleveland here. I don't even go to insects. And it play out. You got it well we'll that would be new pill that would be new for us that would be new for us the four game winning streak at the end. Right to the end not 2004 orbits the bills' loss to the Steelers at the end that would've made it you were here for that maybe. Now that's that the Donna Hogan right. I maintain that were built power short of winning Super Bowl forty that was probably one of his proudest moment when he met again with tobacco this coach. Yeah because of the power struggle Lee is here with Tom. Sort of one that. To beat him in knocked the bills out. Yeah it is yeah it was guys that ended up in that game. They look like total scrub players. And two of those guys won this kind of borderline hall of fame career James Harrison. Had a break out game at that point he was just. You know fourth or fifth taxi squad special teams player scored a touchdown Willie Parker media and Billy Parker who. It's not like a great hall of fame running back but at a three or four year period where he was one of the better running backs in the NFL. So what about this game. But this British too and I've been talking about it just being with fans tending to be so. Pessimistic for the bill's late in seasons they just don't don't roper yen. That kind of thinking. Here you have last week was similar like this you have the spread making it seem that these teams are pretty even. Should should the wind being what it is. I think so because. The Steelers. Jekyll and Hyde routine that they have. When their home vs the type team they've been this season on the road and that went away the last couple of road games but. They come with giant asterisk mark because they were against the browns and a cold Steve that didn't have Andrew Luck and there before that. Ben Roethlisberger was. You know it is a road game the last three years if you look at him yet as many touchdowns as interceptions. It's quarterback ratings and the low eighties he's just like another guy. When you get a mana Heinz Field and it's it's such unusual. State of affairs with him because when that was it is their first few years in the league. I look at him as the type of quarterback that I loved having under center going on the road in these places then. And starting out weaned and wait tried sin. Winning. Ugly games but. In the Steelers defense has undergone a pretty serious transition and you know if it's about the type of defense where you can really windows kind of low scoring games away from home so much. Anymore. So that's why what that's one of the reasons why Mike I'd give. The built a chance on Sunday and at least from our vantage point out here Pittsburgh. If you put a bigger game for them you know you you might think where you are there's some apathy that's set in among the fan base or is it from where you sit. Fans are not well willing to give themselves up and get invested. I think for the Steelers this is another litmus test game. But the builder could give her got a great team and these fans want to see this team be a good team away from Heinz Field on Sunday will present a challenge. Enter full pony 937 the fan in Pittsburgh Andrew what does Roethlisberger say about the home road business. He. Gives these bury it. Almost. Like partly theaters because. He's so like detailed in the way he answers those questions. If you would think that could we get a chance to talk you'll want to week on our show. And you'd bake most guys you have to have a question like that they would just kind of brush it off until well you know it's football blah blah blah. And he says. That if he gets as detailed as specific as sometimes you're stadium. And the crowd the stadium was different it it changes your sight line that a court as a quarterback and your depth perception is different. And that changes where you want to put a ball public stage you wanna put on it or how you want to throw it. And it's just so like hyper sensitive and if but it involved. Detailed answer that it almost sounds like to be when he answered that question about it Mike and I give it to like two or three times this year. That he's not psyched out about it but you can tell he is mindful. And very thoughtful about. The kind of challenges as challenges and struggles he's had. Away from from Heinz Field because a comfort zone here when he got home he just as any quarterback I've ever seen the back I have traveled as well this year. He's never lost the bills. It Hebert of the game here that he played one game here where Stevie Johnson dropped a touchdown pass in overtime and then blamed god. Yeah I do and then there was a huge. I take it one of the longest. Touchdown receptions by a running back in bills history of that game you remember that projection had like eighty awkward. Touchdown reception OK surely even longer than that was not a high scoring game. Out horse. You know we've actually references a few times on our show this week it will I guess you would be on Sunday. And every time I think of wind. Bad. You airfield Russians said. Q with the times of economic with the buffalo I think at that sticks to rebuild ground game that I went to. I'd rather whine when I was working for you guys. I went to one gave it to stay in my entire time at buffalo but it would that stick story. Browns bills game mirage were Roscoe Parrish had two fumbles. And Derek Anderson completed two passes out on the road and won the two passes. Three RRM. Tell it like it's such a I don't Brown's story for me that game. But the all time bill story and all time Brown's story without even combining them. Purity in the that by just knows separately claim that. Well. What do you think of of Tyrod Taylor sold the bills have this contract with memory gets paid big money after the season if they want to pay him. Or they could cut ties which they do. I got I mean they got to figure out like what they want. To be as an offense because when I watched them play. It is if Betty Nguyen move that they've made to make him offensive coordinator. And I want stability and it looks like running a college offense to me. You know and and I get to watch it every Saturday down here when our pocket built on I feel like I'm watching the game on Saturday. Well you've got a quarterback that's when an option plays and doubles players have worked fine I mean it is. It has been totally different dynamic to prepare prepare for a game it pic about a quarterback of the two running threat and accordion. Jealously almost six yards to carry him. Reggie Bush him until a couple of weeks ago even person Harden. But like. How are you gonna win that way long term. Indiana how are your quarterback can stay healthy what EJ at a place couple snaps on Sunday I saw that that's never good. I just think. You know are you get a buck conventional wisdom and stay in 2016. And beyond. We're gonna be this team that. You know asks. Our offense to be so super reliant on the run that was first in in rushing offense and 32 in passing offense. So. I I don't know Mike MIT you know winning seat in here and there and keep you competitive as long as your defense is really good but. They'll defense didn't really good and I would just wanna probably subscribe to the conventional way of thinking and buy myself a pocket quarterback who you can Dillinger came around. I think things are. All use the word twisted here because. The defense point is right and that of course was Rex Ryan was being counted on for the toast. Wasn't being counted on to deliver the bills are good quarterback. But you know if you think Taylor's good has happened but he was supposed to keep a defense was already good good or better. And so what are we like to know what their record would be with this quarterback in the top defense. And at that hopefully this answers or rebut what you just but you know that's why the pop it higher Rex White at the time. Supplied these because. You didn't have anywhere to go but down defensively. He knew he wasn't gonna keep Schwartz around you're gonna lose that that would have been with the dual offense. That needed help then you know I think when you hire a coach. If you might not. You might not feel like your coach have to be. Like you know the offensive guru what needs to know what style of play. And works kidnapped and that kind of way like I might not always hire a coach because my offense was thirtieth. We went for a twelve I need to hire head man let me find the best offensive coach out there. But you don't put. The bill had been one spokesman defense that he made it it didn't really get them anywhere under ducked around. So to me they get tired of bombastic coach who had a big personalities. Had some level of success in New York I'm not gonna take that away from mommy went to two AFC championship games. What he's act on it to me it just seemed like the move that the bills were hoping would get them relative to coach that everybody knew you got celebrity came from New York. And. I kind of think they'd they'd gotten. But they've signed up for they've been competitive but he hasn't been able to take to build the next level and that's pretty consistent with Iraq's his entire career I've been worse than. I'm I'm with that to a point I mean I think what Terry Google wanted to do was announce the bills as something more. And that Rex Ryan coming from dogma Roma who was the liberal in the first place and he's quitting on us but let me show you what I can do. And I always thought that was thought that Terry and Rex would would hit it off the both know football history they and I think they would have been. You know in in different ways star struck almost with a each other and so. Like I sort of nodded at that whole idea but what you say about the football part of it and a lot of people have said that I think his is also correct. And in my one and one more thing about like a very aggressive. I did. Percy you need to be willing to vault and see where you're maybe lacking in in in bringing people back and help upset or. Or over your own weaknesses as a person in and it helped you grow to meet you better to coach and then. And I don't think you do that. When you start to just rely on people that you're comfortable being around you break it Tyrod Taylor because you'll round in the Baltimore. You bring your brother at defensive coordinator. I don't think that that. That is not if I were Rex Ryan that was my second chance to be had coached in this is gonna be the time that I proved everybody wrong in new York and maybe the industry as a whole. I wouldn't want us to surround myself with people that I did. Had always been around. So much easier. I've written about Mike you've got to make hard. Decision especially where you you know you you can say he failed the last played he was. You know it's just easier to do that in people most of the time wanna do that. It's that it's the setting that's different it's all the players that are different it's the owner that's different. So woman and I'm gonna have my a you know my security blanket sort of speak in terms of coaching Caldwell Oca. So while I'm Andrew and I got together this summer in Pittsburg for error. And we sat in the TV seats. And so many good questions were were asked all the way around your friends and everybody just it was such a great day. And that one point your question for me was one was just like July. Maybe around at the earliest it was July and your question for me was what should they do with Andrew McCutcheon. Right. So he was having this this bad year and really didn't didn't get better. And so an hour and a free agency and Durbin all these rumors about the pirates trading McCutcheon. Of course they haven't done that and lately the wind seems to be blowing like this nobody wants. So what's right. I think the death is a blessing in disguise because. I look at that Heatley had last year and even though his offense. Tail off to the point where it would be. A cause for concern. Most of his. Most of the things that I look at and put value and with him like hit defense is what should roll him to a point where. I think most of the industry looked at him last year at an average player and maybe even worse they became a liability. And if you moved him to stay at corner outfield. It Potlatch responsibility or strain on him. I think in turn you'll get a better offensive player. And it appears to be depart plane here and yeah I think it's. I think if the plane the that they have fallen back on because they didn't get the kind of players or packages players. They want it back. But my age my feeling all along has been if I were running the organization. I would tell him we're gonna move into right field. For next year it'll it'll give you a chance to just worry about beat becoming a better hitter putting more emphasis on being a slugger and moving to this second error of your career. Where. So many other outfielders have gone where they transition from being the leader of the captain of the outfield. Q legal popular right field in the Pittsburgh makes more stats from the play right because dimensions. While the ballpark I still think like if they pushed the right buttons that can be eighteen to get back to the playoffs they did win ninety games. Two years ago and I still think maybe not MVP level baseball McCutcheon. I think next you'll see about that can be one of the better hitters the national again. All right I'm glad I ask you one no question yes. Two out do you think is worse. The pirates' twenty years. Without a winning season or the bills bills. Is that my first answer and I would say it's easy except for New England. So if you if you fold into it that you have the patriots who were so dominant and that there would have been years of the bills and so are other divisions certain times. Were they would have been in the playoffs where even last year or the year before. Then. Maybe you wanna give them there are days when I feel like this where you wanna give them a break. Then in the pirates trial at least in the beginning you had to finish first that wasn't for long though. Is it close steel so why you ask. It is because you have those issues. If you just look at the record. They had better years during the that throughout our really 1997. During the twenty years was the only year the pirates came close to making the postseason. That just because the NL central was a weak division right they never had a winning record in those twenty years now. Yeah. But with the with the bills. The league it's still structured in a way where you're not supposed to be bad for so long. And I thought and then accept us as well I'll leave you on. About going back at a baseball game that we shared together in July the point he made it was the most daily media and higher today. Which would you compare the Sid green played. In the ninety Q what else via the not to pirate in seven games to the music city miracle. It happened to aid that was a complete. Heart. Breaking gut wrenching game. It stands look back on it now with what the total. Almost new positive connotations to the bonds and leave right away really. Yeah I didn't yet he never played another game for the parties with the giants in 93. You don't happen to these guys after the demon Tennessee. What is Bruce Thurman and Andre were released. That was the end of them. And you read it totally sort of wade tolls were more year but you had a totally new direction happening here after that. Yeah and I just thought I mean you can use of the Smart thing that came up that day. Like mound ball him. That's acres were so but an important part of that experience. I don't know I think that that statement you made has resonated with me and I thought about that allow a lot this week as I've prepared myself as applauded. It's on the people say but when I say it to you I could mean more always a pleasure. Peter Paul pony 937. The fan in Pittsburg thank you Andrew. We will have sports right now if we were along their since took so long to find him. Kevin Payne fantasy football little wire coming up. The five this is Mike show on WGR. Callers five and six today that. 716644. 9878. Win tickets to see this man Steve Winwood. The show is April 29 at the Seneca Allegheny resort and casino the value of the prizes fifty dollars. General contest rules apply tickets go on sale tomorrow. For the show it's and can casinos dot com or Ticketmaster. Dot com. One thing about. Sunday. Not the past but the during your future that game Sunday. We we've we all know how many times we've got to this point with the bills seasons where it's. Some people are talking about. The offseason before others some people were talking about firings. Guys being caught changed out before others and there's this this transition. Period from when. Any real good chance of making the playoffs. Cease to exist all the way up until a point where they're eliminated I think myself with somebody that gets to. In a lot of ways really fast. Gets to make the changes. Both for the average guy and I know this year when they lost that game the jets I just. Owen to. I I failed to see any path to the playoffs. And I know that you know you never do know all seasons are going to play out in some teams you think are good or not that good maybe that's. Denver a little bit. I don't know before the season I didn't think Denver had to be good with. Unknown quarterback. How many teams unknown quarterback are usually good. So. It does happen but. Two AFC losses to start the season like with New England being New England winning with tropical. The good if you if you might have been listening the Friday before the opener in Baltimore I think it was like the front Thursday or Friday the week the opener. With Bulldog here I said. You're there there's a there's a scenario where. Bill's fans. Might think the season is over Monday. If the bills lose in Baltimore and the patriots win in Arizona. Wouldn't know what the cardinals were what is going off them. In the NFC championship. If they win in Arizona with a Rob Lowe at night after the bills have lost in the afternoon in Baltimore. We feel like the seasons probably. Over and then quickly calms the thirst and I reject game in the bills lose that to the jets and we don't think the jets necessarily or bad. But still it's fats and it's 37 points like. Then. I was that there's no chance. It was after week two when I said forgot it. Funny how do you get to the playoffs from here tendon for. Put your all into in the conference you gotta go ten for. And wind tiebreaker is. Like OK or goal Lebanon three. The rest of the way we too patriot games in Seattle everything that we we talk like that I was feeling that strongly. At that point trade guys who led trade LeSean McCoy these old go ahead mean why should you do those things. And of course then the bills won four straight. And anybody who cared to. Think of that position that I had. Might have told me this is all week is this is how well how dumb you are. To a thought that. Wrote notes that he could end up that they like you had Interpol pony a minute ago saying this team could get attendance six and and still mess. Mean do we get that and we know that that would. Mean that the bills would have won all four these games down the stretch so I get to. I guess this is all preface to a point here I get to a point before most guys were I wanna I wanna give up I wanna go backwards. Seven and 98 Nate is the worst and it's been so many of these years this is the worst I'd much rather be. To win fourteen men Nate Nate much rather be that. So. All that said. This game. Tyrod Taylor. Or Karr dale Jones. I think the idea that the bill should go to card Bill Jones for this game is ridiculous. I know what happens. You get mad at your guy. And as we talked about like all the time here there's just so much pessimism about the that. Theory go another non playoff here like all that all that stuff swirling around. And you get to let's just play this rookie who we've never seen was just ornament I just think this time. That situation I just think that's crazy. You you have to be eliminated first. You just have to be eliminated first. And so if that happens I'll listen to that because then I've got nothing to lose by playing him. Pragmatically. If if I I'd make the argument that his playing Sunday. Jones. Is important because of experience that he won't gain from that I can wait one week. And if they beat the Steelers with Tyrod Taylor I think a lot of people will wanted card they'll drones. Against Steelers. We'll just might have to admit that that was just their anger there motion talking. I I cannot. Do that this week. I can do it next week I think if I lose but not this week no mean the time for that is not now. 8030550. Kevin Payne wrote a wire on fantasy football were to the playoffs that's coming up in less than forty minutes Bulldog is off today this is Mike show on WGR. We made the turn as easier when pick them picking up on things as a testament. You know how much work we put it out. You know inside. So. You know from time to want Tomlin and I go home study plus. If you look close race you coats and you know explosions on things and when banks and he's having. So it's not like I'm just achieve and be more it is not a Thomas and. Gotta be Carville Jones Coke's lead. The quarterbacks coach Carville Jones. I am. Sometimes it there with you when you wanna make changes and I can think about the better draft there can you know whatever development. But not not now are not. I think the idea putting card Bill Jones in for Pittsburgh is naughty. I just I I have to keep going maybe next week if they lose or and or eliminated. And I have the browns I do not think you will happen. They they will not take chances losing to the Cleveland Browns. So do not think you'll happened but you might catch me next week if the bills Lou Sunday. Pushing for that or at least listening to that no way MIA doing that Sunday is that that would just be. Up terrible decision mean there were to lose this game with them like we're what do you stopping for. The one games' worth of experience tank just chill. Tyrod Taylor played this game there's no question about it of course he will and he should that's what I think Brian is on WGR O'Brien. And it might. They did so yesterday and today it's now what you're talking about how does that really unfold here with public decision making and I think. My answer is wailing becomes the central figure at all. Upper reaches coaching quarterback. On coach. And Rex goes higher. He talked about how in the Iraq's cities each other senses how he should be built that they agreed wholeheartedly on a lot of the a running game running the ball playing the so it's moved Carter rumblings about. The gap ad Whaley bill it is geared up or can you learn the same thing with Tyrod. You know wait at least he eye opening cliches about court so they'll say things like. You say more time that you're gonna learn the system better things will get better. If you don't have the look over your shoulder and you take all the OJ rap take all the training aircraft. He'll get better get used to it learned the kind of accurate you know get that are well I look at all of those things. Not eating better and you have to wonder okay yet which lot it quarterback as well so I think that's. The decision making that got to go on between really the goal and it opted out or are they changed over the course. Being in Europe and you've been DS. You know Brian I can you you just you so a lot here and I'll tell you what I'm thinking is. I just don't trust these guys. Media as much as you do when I hear them talk publicly. If if dog Whaley indeed said I'm not doubting you. That they could finish each other's sentences that point about how he and Rex Ryan of the same vision. But my reaction. If I were to of heard that I know would've been. Just huge would've gone in one ear out the other. Because I think that's what they want you to think I think all these the Tyrod Taylor pointer making two about Whaley I think that's all what. I think he talks like most these guys in the sport talk which is to say they're saying what they think you want them to say. And you could companies that now overtime at each start stop to remember what Brandon. Talking about how we're going to be an attacking aggressive organization. How long the bat really laugh you had a brief flirtation with analytics. Remember that. Fifteen starts stopped the planned changes all the time that's something that is that going to Iraq. Okay that's popping up and then either wailing and you can't build an elite deep sense something happened at the same thing with Tyrod any that four years behind lack. Though he experienced quarterback you know the old joke from year to those are your one year to beware Ali talked about oil look at. The tiger getting a quarterback in his mid to upper twenties. You know he's not out and that where that is that you making that. Thank you for a run for sharing your thoughts on that I accept this week. I want to hear what fans think about. The to process what how the decision gets made. Who makes it. Who's in on the decision all of that. I hear you IE don't know if we leave will be V voice. I feel like. Ever since Rex Ryan showed up. That his. Opinions have carried more weight. With the owner but I don't really know that mean I certainly don't have anybody telling me that she is so it's always kind of smelled to me is that. Rex is Terry the coolest guy. I don't think. By that by singer of a dog Whaley gets ignored per say but just think that Rex is gonna get what he wants. Maybe that changes now it's like haven't seen this week. It it's just it's pretty good drama right now for the next few weeks. So we may when a couple more games like what are you wanna be is a nation. Good enough to keep this together can you release see it being better or not mean that's a tough decision a tough question. That could be looked at either way like a reasonable person could say yes or no to that. Tell all of this directs to Tyrod to Whaley all of this. So I don't know are of a clue about what Terry gaullist thinking. He might be thinking are right now I'm here I'm getting old here I have had a winner yet. I don't care what it costs I'm just gonna do something else or do something more along the lines of what he might thought he'd wanna do with the first place. When he took over assuming that is and keep guys around. You know that's that's really more point about Whaley who we kept on. Kevin Payne rural wire fantasy football next word of the playoffs that's gonna matter to us W. 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