Extra points Joseph what's. I welcome any extra point shocked actually just subtly tweaked out here let me just finish my -- extra point. Show right now on WGR and on and as you actually get a tag to be here 5:50 and am as G. Networks are real it's all out there it's in the Twitter verse. And is there for you to see you can follow me on Twitter you can tweet me at sell sports on the heels of a buffalo bills' victory. Over the Cleveland Browns yesterday 33. To thirteen. Gonna say I was wrong. I was wrong absolutely wrong. I think 31 to thirteen. I was wrong. I actually called 31 to thirteen yesterday on the pregame show and Wendy and carpenter missed the extra point when it was thirty. About to be 31 in any missed extra point. I was mad and carpenter I was about to tell on the sidelines taking over Dan. You messed my prediction I said 3113. You missed extra point now it's thirty to thirteen could've been thirty. And then they went down kicked another Google anyways so. I want about I want being and the two points away anyway are 8030550. Is the number 88 by 52 by big numbers to call. Right here on the extra point you want to be your Sports Radio 550. In on the MSG. Networks out of touch you'll along with Hewitt of course I'm sure the lot of you. Want to talk about. The situation with the head coach in the situation with the GM in the situation and anybody in the organization. And they'll report I don't think many of your really too interested in talking about you know playoff scenarios but. Will go over those of course today because they still are alive and we'll do that and if you are you're welcome to call I would like to talk about all that stuff today. Head coach GM. Organization changes in the top of that winning a football game 33 to thirteen and going into next week still with a pulse a faint pulse but still Paul's against the Miami Dolphins on Christmas easy on Saturday afternoon. Playing acts a new airfields so that is all of the table today I'd like to hear what you wanted say about that you have to simulate that 803055888. 552 by fifty here on the extra points you once again we are on TV if you haven't. Been around on MSG haven't checked us out you're listening right now you're driving somewhere get a home to get a couple of hours is still turn on the NSG networks and this is like the third a lash out right got this show next week after the game and then after the jets game on the day after New Year's Day I'll be here and that'll be a bunch of samples from me because I'll be crying that won't be able to be an extra point to that's at radio or TV by the way. Because then the investigators come back. Every Monday as well since football season will be over we think will be over the bills like is said to have a eight the paint the playoff chance but it is a chance on the last. And they're gonna go out their next Saturday and try to beat the Miami Dolphins increase that chance by. As little as they can but it's keep their hopes alive. I so let me start with and I'll I'll I'll get into the game. In a minute. Let me start with all the reports you heard yesterday. They came out from national or local people and where I am with this and what I can tell. Obviously yesterday on the heels of last week having a report that was turned out to be obviously. Untrue which was C a last week before the game the report was if the bills have lost the Steelers that Rex Ryan could very well lose his job. And he could be very while fired on Monday. Well now obviously did not turn out to be true. He was the bills did lose and he did not lose his job on Monday. So. After that report about I came on the radio station I told you said you know I was told otherwise that and that nothing's been the site. While fast forward here we are seven days later. And another report services of course on the day of the game. Which is from a national reporter. That the decision's been made and that Rex Ryan is aware. While less. I. Talk to many people on a daily basis. And when things like this happen a trotted I try to talk to the right people who know what's going on who have a window into. The situation. I can tell you I've reported yesterday tweeted that last night out here today on the radio. I talked to three separate sources independent like trust implicitly. Who've got steered me wrong in the past in all three said the same thing to me yesterday at various times in the day by the way. Which is. No decision has been made and Rex Ryan's future. You can disagree that maybe there should argue that decision made it I understand that if you wanna go down that road feel that way but I'm Italian. I was told by three of our people yesterday no decision has been made on his future now that was as of yesterday. That decision be made today sure that a decision be made later this week sure obviously they want I don't expect that to happen could decision be made sometime before the end of the season. No greatly for the jets game and then they announced some saying that they're moving on. On Monday after the jets in short all of that as possible no doubt about all of that as possible. Also could be no decision made until after the season when everybody gets together and they decide what to do what went wrong in what areas. And who needs to be accountable for that and who to move on from and who not to move on from. That is also possible. But as of yesterday. When I was told was no decision has been made and Rex Ryan's future as of that. And now. Here we sit after you win with two games left and I clearly do not expect anything happen. With the head coach at least until January 2 which is the day after the bills play at even then I wouldn't be surprised nothing happens that. Because again no decisions and those are the those are the words essentially in one way shape or form from read ever people I trust that I talked to yesterday. A major thoughts at 803055888. Like fifty. To Beckett in oh by the way no one told me that the next two games depend on it we'll see though is that he's fighting for his job not not that even just. This is the main you know we'll see we'll we'll see what happens at the end of the year here but I. I trust what I was told and that's what I reported and that's and I'm here. To tell you today as far as the game yesterday the bills did what they should do against an a with thirteen team they dominated the browns. Pretty much from start to finish except for maybe a series here. Or a series there now won't do much to quiet all the masses do wanna see changes at one bills drive. It was a win nonetheless. And they rolled to a Monday with by the way a victory Monday players off in no Rex Ryan today. Another thing I wanna point out Rex rice that's begin the media today that does that mean he lost his job it's because. Of the shorter week the schedule is a bit different today is that once they off basically. I'm sure coaches are going to be working on film and stop Rex is not speaking to the media. There are no player availability today there also off and then tomorrow will be a normal Wednesday so editing is pushed back a day. Obviously Saturday send to become Saturday. Saturday. Becomes Friday. Answered as it rights and they become Saturday Saturday that was right yep Friday becomes Saturday. Senator come Sunday Friday becomes Saturday at the point anyway that means it Tuesdays and Wednesdays this immediate area Tuesday. So when you do not hear Rex Ryan with the media today and it's not because the team buyers and it's because he's not scheduled talk. To the median of the biggest thing I wanted to see yesterday going into the game was the effort put forth by the team and most likely most likely playing out the string in the stretch. Under an embattled coach. The effort. As opposed last week I'll tell you was there I do not think last week ever was there I told you that specifically was certain players. About the everyone was on board this week could effort. They did what they were supposed to do as I stepped sat. I'm greeted on the also put this out there the browns in this discussion for later maybe we need to have this discussion if you wanna. I jump by more I was told all week I heard all week I listened all week I read all week. A lot of different people who said I'd rather be the browns in the bills I'd rather be where they are I get a tight. God bless you if that's the case because I want no part of that. That was not only a 113 team. On the I actually on the record in print only thirteen. But it three years that I've been the sideline reporter. In the National Football League. That was easily the worst team I've ever been on a field. Easily. They were bad. I don't know what their planes you tell me all you want volleys draft picks they have. They don't have any players. I mean Joseph thomas' nice players the end of his career. Burger in the third look lost all day I've no idea where his career is gonna go and I kind of feel sorry form after you know he's been. He has such a great rookie year even bounced around whatever is no offensive line in front of him and ID and I can Arabic it simply football honestly anymore. Their defense. Is starting guys that probably really have no business being anything other than specialties players in this week. So he could talk about their play and how great it is all you want. Yeah she'll show me where it is a couple years because went with this team the Brownstein and regressing here I apologize but. They had cracks at it would to draft picks in the first round twice over the past three years. One time they like Trent Richardson and branded we'd another time they went Justin Gilbert. The Johnny man's cell. Ouch. So I don't know what they're gonna do all those picks they had kids draft Carson once Lester they didn't. They have to they're gonna get the number one pick this year most likely and they're going to have Phillies number one pick as well I've no idea what to do with those either and created they could have all the but I am here to tell you from what I saw yesterday even if they hit on a wink take good players. Which is picky picky prop generally come in and. It's still gonna take a long that was a bad team so. All that said. It was a bad team but the bills that would they're supposed to do. So you wanna give him credit I do I think they showed up that plated him with a supposed to do if you don't want to because of the bad team and he whatever that I guess. It doesn't matter. But the bills clearly did not want to be the first victim of and went thirteen to about yesterday that effort showed that they did not want to be the first team to lose to the Cleveland Browns. This season out the playoffs extremely unlikely like I said. The bills win along with the Broncos losing yesterday it does keep their pulse alive albeit Wheatley. I should make at least for more competitive spirit bull on the field and in the stands next week. When the dolphins come to town has arrival is Christmas weekend it's going to be cold that's I wanna play the dolphins all the good fortieth again as of right now the one colder right. And as it opens. And we also did keep Rex Ryan around at least for another week like I said. So you wanna talk about that and back and I've been told no decision has made in his future we can do that. His future. That we'll these others in the organization shall there be talked about and I understand. The bills that went 33 to thirteen there were some nice things that happen in the game. And we'll go through those legal through our arrow up arrow down you can find it at the beach Europe by the dot com I'll do that. In the next hour in the meantime this hour we'll throw some stats ought to just an interest in stats for the Buffalo Bills. LeSean McCoy shows up on that segment again so does Kyle Williams this week we're gonna go for too little bit later in the programming sideline villas and a lot of other things. Coming your way so here we go go to the ball minds right now 8030550. Tanks rolled not if you were out on the last show. And you hold him through I appreciate that of course Merck and also come your way. At near a timer in Dow Jones come your way at noon today on the John Murphy show a total loop let's start a sop in buffalo hi Lou you're an extra points. Pray oh god now holing in on the end pretty elegant finish your trailer and I just let you respond whoever's talking about. In the clear brown spots where. For a first checked at. And not that I agree with you there. And as far as director's job and I don't know decision been made on that and and I've I've been a good thing I mean changes need to be made somewhere. Our. Buddy he's been 88 there's a possibility at the united seven. Puts an earlier they're talking about owl. You know the lineup as mediocre and I kind of agree with that I don't think. Bring in Nicaragua that dead and a decision whatsoever. All. Well enough I mean whoever's responsible her you know fired up because like. Percy Arden and Reggie Bush I mean what are we doing in Australia money bring it goes expects. I mean why are we can't get them money and put it on guys I. Know Tony Romo Garrett wants. While how Tony Romo is not a freeagent. And those of their bunker they're on teams no one's gonna in India for free. I'm talking about they're undrafted guys. I mean why are we spending money on possibilities. But it goes quietly and young guys that are all of them are retirement. I don't understand what your point is waiting undrafted guys Tony Romo is is is if he can only like twelve years ago. Great when he came in undrafted. I mean it airborne. Okay well well well the people making decisions that are not here anymore. Went to her what you mentally. Why don't they why aren't our guys make a decision right there. Like. And again I don't know I think you OK I got Jai I guess I don't really understand the point that I'm sorry Tony Rome only here was like an animal with the points. Let's go to fill in Syracuse I failure and WGR and a mystery. I failure there. Now we had a field. All right let's go to. Who went along next year will go on that Phil object Paul and Akron hi Paul you're an extra point show. I don't sell thank you. But the reason why I say get my head why everyone is. Question in light won't wreck navy fighter may not it's because. The way like we hear there that they answer well no decisions that may. So if you know that he's back and get fired we told you still. There are people until about eight beacon fire out no way Americans get fired nobody is actually sent that they haven't done it one way or the other so everybody in their mind they get. Well maybe it's going on here. Correct I made that bet that if note if if there could be a possibility of it but it hasn't been determined yet that why wouldn't they and that's fair and that's OK listen. Yeah and that. Doesn't mean it's gonna happen or not happen right. If you thought that they were going to keep temperature. Is I went to Iraq are ready and US and we're going all the other stuff. Or anybody here say it doesn't sound like they that they actually watched Simon came around that guy that I didn't worry about that. That's correct I agree with that but I don't I think the opposite is also to right I mean either way I I don't think from a what I have been told them Rex said yesterday. It has been told that he is going to be fired in also. Looks like it has been told that he is not going to be fired so what does that tell you that nobody really seems no other than Terry Google and he might not even know at this point and that's my point that. The ownership has not made that determination yet. Yet an open air. Article that you have a good day. All right you're welcome 8030550. Aided by for the two by for the yeah right I mean I get a he's right if if Rex was completely safe there was no chance. You would think maybe some of them would come out and say that either publicly or two and then he would know it. And it would relay it or. If they thought but if they thought the other side was true that is the case as well so will go back to the entire point here no decisions are made. And I don't expect people to say. One decision nor the other people I trust me has an eight at no decisions that may. Let's go to Dave in Orchard Park I gave your an extra point show. Are you go to it all right thank you. Hey I know. A public that people are there are negative. I'm you know you don't look at like Jimmy shock when you look at John Mara the out quite well what if she. Sixty and and I think he did what these record should. I mean they opt this year we have you know regularly now. Lot of this be our maker various Louis now are public sort of in their first ask you gotta get the coaching staff but they're here. And I guess I actually obviously they're garner the mega hit what makes me except every you know based on that terrible. Our pockets in the out here. I'm looking Jimmie Johnson Jimmie Johnson's. Lou record here when he came inkjet you write one at 157911. Of five this thirty year. Let's get on your your exact dosage to point B here's a here's the problem and I feel you Dave I feel we are coming from unfortunately. We live in a very. Quick to satisfy a instinct gratification society and look at the football world in the media world in 24 hour news cycle has changed in 1992. And 1990. When it. C eighty actually when 89 when Jimmie Johnson was hired by the Dallas Cowboys we didn't have social media we are they had the Internet to be honest with you for public use like we do today. We certainly did have lake. 24/7 ESPN news or Latina programs like you see today which is a radio program subtle cast on television where everybody has access to sell. I think the landscape has changed I think you make a fair point I'm not dismissing it at all. But unfortunately for everybody whether it's rexrodt inner Gus Bradley or whoever's involved in coaching her. Building rosters owners we live in a much much much different place today than we did that. Pocket and explain to me that Malcolm op expert picks work. It adds that it based expect what cultures you know. Well partly because Mike Tomlin has a Super Bowl ring. And he's gonna play upsets that that's when they stick. Yeah like it that vigorously leading air stretch. Ball back. Yep I agree it again but again let me go back to what I just stated what it took no coach. Obviously. Right I mean I'm not disagreeing with your point I'm just trying to make sense of light is ultimately it is in the world. What and yes I don't I don't disagree with you I agree completely with that. I I mean it's all you know a piece of coal you await. Egypt or become department. It all night elbit unfortunately though in this day and age of banks and phone call they've I don't I don't disagree same wood but unfortunately for many people in this state agent you're involved in. The business of sports even players you know it's what have you done for me lately and players don't get a lot of time right they get a four year contract wanna commend the lead. And a team can terminate their contract pretty much whenever they want there may be ramifications. But they do that and. Rosters turn over all the time no this is. It's a multibillion dollar industry time is not on the side of anybody really. He owners made even same owners may even say when they command they're gonna take. Three year 45 your approach poof that's why go back to what is it about the browns think about that when the browns are clearly. Putting in a plan. Where they say were gonna take time here were gonna build this winner right and we're going to be bad for a few years yeah. Talk to me another year too when you're almost as bad as you are this year and tell me how that plan changes because you know what. Everybody's got to play in Italy get punched in the face. That Ichi plant changes doesn't will see the Brown's plan changes I think it's gonna change at some point the people were there. Like. Let's go to Marleau in buffalo I Marla earlier on WGR NM SG. It. Anybody. You don't about. Yeah had a question about I let a big wreck many believe bin. On a logo but as for the past two years that we've been very good break hitting good players. Yet though when they rate stood at this. They did that go man we gamble we spoke to delegate Cleveland. (%expletive) we still got a little bit of playoff hole like achievement. Is it completely beyond up gonna ride man be better than what it on like a cat five year. Well I appreciate it won't call thank you marxism bring in players necessarily M I should say shouldn't say that. He actually has a hand in who comes in a we know that he wanted Tyrod Taylor is that Willie's job to go get the players and he wants them for example I KN and Polly. On the that was a good move necessarily I don't think he's a really good player but Rex felt that the media him so bombed you know OK I appreciate it thanks a lot. All the back out to phone lines now we'll take Joseph in Rochester hi Joseph earlier on the extra point show what's up. And so I agree with the one call about cubicle considered an insect. I believe we're a world we had a lot probably entries this year which we didn't get the total view arcane. I also muted comments about you know social media and all this stuff it's totally different government troops and above flood. I've been through all the years. Jim Kelly and we're very pretty solid at Houston game could come back in. But the look our for us older people get used to them losing like this close games and well over. But I don't these two coaches I don't think this should help buffalo. If they were you look at new cultures are all it is just just same old thing state public documents that are here. He signed for five years didn't we hear is at least you know bottles LP. And left and goes out there if that if the chance that mixture. Peyton go back that was there now than yesterday clearly change. As far as the Russ Brandon all of them not being developed the habit of butlers I was Estonia already now. Unfortunately. You don't need to change all these cultures it hit in consistently. You know no as far as possible because Porter I don't know aliases itself Rob Reiner as it. Is that mom. Dennis Thurman. Robot by title it's gonna serve and I I think I I aid definitely. Agree with you on this point which is. One of the ways in which Rex can maybe help himself. Is to be a little bit more clear about things like that right it means that a tell us while rob them all the special pride action data still but I'm called a play that Dennis is call the plays that way well you know it's been the same all year article. Amy maybe one of the ways he can help himself is being a little more clear about those things because honestly I don't see why it's any more or less of a competitive disadvantage or anything like that. If you just come out say things like I understand one of the things that happens here Joseph is. Rex is very very very loyal he never wants to throw anybody under the bus he always wants to protect his players and his assistant coaches and I totally. I'd love that about him I do love that about anybody write a Mac I'm Italian I love that about people but. That's right so I love the loyalty and I love the fact that people will you know go to bat for people protect them but I think he can help himself. If he's just a little more clear about issues like that. Yeah I agree I agree it. Like aesthetic which employees you set another guy. This social biggest changes solely solely inside my god you know they're all these rumors of other players diapers. You know it but it's. Between Kerry and indirectly now. Military I understand the businessman but he's not a great Obama and he's apparently it would also save the awful bill's sponsor Everest but you know what a you're gonna have to leave it to either of special guys. Russ Britt and all the guys that they terrorists came Ehrlich before them. He's always saying don't power and that that's a problem at all. I understand what buffalo obstacle I think they keep this thing got together now wait Ballmer year things will change we played in all close games this year. We lost the Miami game we lost suggesting we possibly could want those because wanted to Seattle. I think the problem here is makes a college I got to move on the part of the issue years. Say play close games but you know when you look at the overall record I think that the fuel for the fire for people who want Rex changed out. A dubious stat and that Merck said this on the radio broadcast yesterday I haven't fact check of mine ailment in Murphy's is right so. Oz I'll give you what he said. Bills against teams. Under 500 this year one in six. Answer under 506 and 161 against teams under 500. Agassi over 501 and six the only one win came against. The Jacoby percent led New England Patriots so what does that tell you there an average team maybe average coach that's worries and troubles of his ten year. You look at his record here overall it Tina 150. That would make sense right. 88 and buffalo last year it's evident seven buffalo this year overall. I became into buffalo with just under 500 record at the look at 43 point buys like that Rex Ryan somewhere around that. But so you think about that's that six and one against teams under 501 and six against teams or 500 it is what it is right they are where they are. And I think that is driving a lot of the fuel for the fire people who want something change because it's just not good enough. A good discussion let's keep it up eight at 305 BP 88 by PDQ I've read the bills went 33 to thirteen over the Cleveland Browns where a field. And the Miami Dolphins on Saturday they haven't they have a pulse of the street Paul's got a false. We'll talk about some of the things that happened on the field yesterday as part of our it's Al stats guest to issue went up and sell stats again. Shady. Good point Joseph woods. To switch to northwest and get back to. Why are depressed and Western New York traffic returning your ticket to justice dot com Newman died how. And by visual Chevrolet and Ford from. I just love the open I love the open I love hearing it the extra point show which south of hot chili on Lila because it's going to be gone in like three weeks. Maybe maybe can we have like. It JJ your brain is likely that again we're actually here all day we played again more time somebody is saying the extra point show south Abacha to be as likely that right now so I can hear it again I feel good about myself. Because in three weeks it's gonna be the investigators again with interpreters and Greg Ray Emery garrote. And I'm like why are we talking football man. So that com line so that draft. So that all that stuff. Anytime you guys wanna throw it out there again. Extra point shell shock of watching you can do that help. Them in this in this. We don't listen to. Hopefully she'll which. I love him. I love big play guy with a last and I I love big voiced guy saying my name like that. I order he sings us out of watching a song that I wonder if he does that. All right three weeks left. And a good time today happy holidays everybody out there this is the last shall have before Christmas so we hope we have a good holiday season and I know that you know the dolphins coming in December so we always wanna see. I think we always obviously that the bills were a better position trying to make the playoffs next Saturday when the dolphins are here. But they do have a bit of a chance very slight chance we'll talk about that a little bit later in the program it is so minimal right now that it's worth at least mentioning but. Now really focusing on today. No what is oh we are gonna focus on now right now sales stats. Can be a couple numbers couple stats here. From yesterday's game that are. You know I can think gum emblematic of the bills this season. And one of them you can kind of twist may be into a yet but that's why they're not winning as many gains but it's still a tremendous that and as the first one. Yesterday. The bills went over. A record is first touchdown our concern on the ground 27. Touchdowns scored on the ground 27 rushing touchdowns. You have to go all the way back. In 1975. During the OJ Simpson error. To have a bills team with as many rushing touchdowns as this one has this year they had 26 in 1975. They have 27 already this year with two games to play they're gonna shatter this record by the time the season is over I guess. The problem is I think what people would say and I understand. That's not the way to necessarily win initially the formula you need and throw the ball have passing touchdowns set records and passing touchdowns and then we'll talk I think that's fair absolutely. It's not a adds that there is no bad sad about that there's nothing bad about leading the league in rushing touchdowns or at least. Setting a franchise record in rushing touchdowns I should say that lately I don't know but does that attack. And breaking a franchise record nothing bad about that. But it absolutely is fair to say that doesn't get you to 1011 wins throwing the ball getting in that way get you to 1011 wins. Oh by the way. How about LeSean McCoy. If you're watching the TV side you see one of the touchdowns right there. Thank you very much being told in my my ear buyer producer JJ to read a 27 does lead the league thank you very much. Publish on the court his sixth 100 yard game of the season. Yet over a buck fifty. Called before the game I said even on the air LeSean McCoy can go for 160 today he almost that you ever won 53. It felt to me like he could have done almost 81 and on the ground yesterday. But his 6100 yard gain is the most by a bill since Fred Jackson in 2011. And there are still two games left to play. I'll have more on the shot a little later when I do arrow up air down in more on this guy a little later our final cells that. References Kyle Williams the longest tenure bill the second oldest will only two Lorenzo Alexander by like two months. Kyle. Had one and a half sacks yesterday. That it's in the forty and a half in his career. He is only behind. Bruce Smith Aaron Schobel Phil Hanson Cornelius Bennett and Mario Williams. You say out while that's still six Greg at its play that long think about this for a second. What do all those other players have in common Bruce Smith Aaron Schobel Phil Hanson. Grace Bennett Mario Williams all of them played on the edge. I mean like the edge of the line that we played on the edge like mentally played on either as a defense event or outside linebacker. Not Kyle Adams I always plays inside. 86 all time in franchise history in sacks may have put together tremendous career to great person to it's great to have him in the community great to have a party organization. And I know he's got a nice big salary next year but in no way do I wanna see the build a lot from him he's a big part of what they still need to do. Going port to go back to pull my is that as a clearance I got this year got on the extra points or what's up man. I sell I agree with you when you say you disagree with that theory that would rather be out in the bill. I read that a couple times over the weekend and I'll consider the source but before we can't deny the browns consider these facts. Number one they have plenty of directors assuming that they all that I need to the next several years. Which I think is a horrible assumption you cannot. All your traffic no team honestly does not attribute Bill Belichick or anybody. Exactly. Remember this is the same franchise that lot that came in 95 because it ignored this stadium issue. Oh. Yeah and and then after that either and they fired Bill Belichick are assumed that ball would. Probably management and telecheck had not reached our senior editor at that point. No they haven't been back Bill Belichick did not meet reach genius head coach status until Tom Brady took over after mole Lewis. Knocked Drew Bledsoe as long back into his chest. Okay. I think had a new owner five years ago they sent hats or head coach than Ford GM so that I a lot of stability. Correct. And all and finally they started 26 quarterback since 1999. So they're not the symbolism of great friend says that this. Well let me go back to what I said over the weekend that estimate you heard me say this I'll say it again here. For some reason here in buffalo or maybe it's because of what happened with the sabres and having that Jack eichel. Rainbow at the at the end of the rainbow having that Jack Michael prize at the end of the rainbow. Maybe it's because it's worked in other sports maybe it's because we're conditioned through seventeen years of be being in the hunt and think about draft picks whatever it is for some reason. Lots of beans and buffalo had a fascination with losing and think that's the better way to go when I have no idea why that is. Yeah and it doesn't work with what our elected government. Are correct. That's correct it is not the same. It is very hard to predict and there is no Jack cycle at the end of this Cleveland Browns rainbow this year. All right thank you I appreciate the phone call that's the way I feel about it I. I get it like it's it's nice to think about it have a good offseason where you can. Salad made it big draft picks in what the future might hold that's great it's great you know it's better winning. Always better. Let's go to Max and Rochester high Max nice name their get seems name as my son you're on the edge where she'll or yeah thank you are you also a Maximilian like him. Now. Just match OK not Nash or for anything all right what's up. Now a and comment and then a questionable when he can clear something up. My candidate doesn't. I'm really for keeping the team together. Even even Tara and they trapped in somebody in the second or third round. You know I think we may have seen the ceiling with Cara Beth I I don't know what ought to go out there that would improve the team at this point even a. Here's the question this is what it comes down to is a good question actually right so if your let's say and I will ask you are you call hears on askew put you to position this is for all the callers out there are right. If your dog really all right. Should you make a decision. Based on what else is available or she Joost just make a decision based on if he is the dire because. I think he's gonna make a decision just simply based on if he's the guy and he's not the guy he'll say I'll figure something out but like pickle forty's not the guy. But I understand your point but that's I think that's the quandary your and your what you have to deal. Record he not a I would agree with that I would say at this point has seen enough let's say he's probably not that guy. Regardless of who is out there right I mean you may not have let you may have limited options that I don't know when I don't think. That's the way to approach it to be quite honest. Well I can be yeah I'd you know I I guess I'm or keep them in together I think are closer than. Than in years past and so I'd like to see if they can take another step forward that. Anthony Lynn maybe another year they can keep him. But my question is. That tech rounded on argued yesterday let's. Incredible to me in it to the flag and it and never understood excellence. Word that they a look at pulmonary educate clear that up by I didn't understand what. I wish I could because I think it was a horrible call it was I'd have no idea what they call that was not a pallid helmet. It was mile Ahmet let me look here while I'm on the exact penalty if I can. Find this year. Come because I don't think it was I think they called it late. You know what it was all was was hard. The hard bit of solace. Yeah we're likely it was he had just released the ball in and it. So I I did I it configured out and then there was really very little commentary. Alan I know that Murphy Kelso in the in the Booth and myself via weekly comment but no they were on the air doing and I know during the break I was talking with those guys. That we all thought it was ridiculous it was a horrible call. And for. I just think that it it was basically hey you hit the quarterback cards on the throw flag right. Yet but it seemed like him. I'm trying to find them and honest I'm looked this up while I ever hang up with the look up exactly what the call was because someone else and I'm looking through the official play by play. And if it's actually has the call list item what it was. That was called on the play OK so thanks a lot every Gemma try to find a port okay. Now piano problem I agree it was a horrible call whatever the reason the reason wasn't good enough for me to type that let's go out to Jose it's Jose right what's going on. Yes yes there are you going to admit it was it was broken the pastor knows how much comment just so you know that's. Was not Telecom it all right I mean they called it but it wasn't actually how it is your right in his second at nine from the Cleveland 45. Years the official game book play by play. Griffin left the barn age pushed out of bounds at the buffalo 28 27. And then it says Zach brown roughing the passer. Fourteen yards but it doesn't say home to home here you're telling me it is I've gone back and watched an caller remember was I couldn't hear the rap because all the boos. He had no window when I'll leave the rep did it was that he said it was helmet to helmet even I forgot a big character would dorm play rapidly even more with the helmet at duke. Yet it was actually Adam Archuleta doing. Oh yeah Adam Archuleta you he had a minute set they would ballad of the bogus call bookmark comment in my blog called it everybody talk about. You know Rex Ryan has hurt right now. Listen. I'd meet personally I think Rex Ryan is not our coach we don't need a player's. Coach here in buffalo. If you look at all the coaches that one's rule that are very successful in the league. They are not players coaches come call and you know Bill Belichick. Bill Parcells those these are not players' coach and these are Gary stern. And in football coaches you know and into the type code that we need your bot will we don't need a player coach. You know now would be you know we'd be ego you know save it for the players a lot of these players prima Donna that we don't need. We don't need somebody come and in stroke or somebody Eagles went into becoming here. He getting the best out of players. The maximize their title you know in and it mattered yesterday actually some than you know it is slate. Everybody says you don't Tyrod the tyrant that in another thing listen. Tyrod had a good game yesterday in the week why it's we we keep a flash in the beware he was technically. You know abuse of this is what we want you on a consistent basis. I don't understand why we cannot sheet data on the basis whether Claiborne date weather would one day whether it's blocking because we know she blackened and what that I'll debate it weeks. You know an and we still had a good you know and dust that did this to sleep now would be you know because. The GDP says a key and so Oki electric Lockett came. OK next week the American spirit double so that leaves open woods go when somebody out you know in which we are distinguishing the I don't know how to value Tyrod in the army everywhere are reluctant. Injury that are like how we have Dicey way to regulate their own. Well well here let me let me a lot of suddenly sick lately would jump back your first point. I think I was and it disagreed on some that are at the happier point is right after point is wrong about the coach and wit and in what I mean is this. If you wanna make the argument that the players' coach doesn't fit this roster what this team needs and totally. I'm bored with that and I can understand that if you wanna say they need more disciplinary more Tom Coughlin they need to rein things in a little bit so a guy I'm just throwing that name out there. I understand that however I would disagree. That you can't win Super Bowls with political players coaches Tony Dungy when he Super Bowl Pete Carroll recently won a Super Bowl. I think they're also consider players coaches you chose the guys who are not players coaches. I think I could find guys who were also players coaches I don't think there's one formula I think whatever fits with your group. Your talent your team that's what matters. Great army and I agree with that I really do agree with that. I mean boy it's the would that would mean look at OK don't look at it this. I as far as work goes Rex has held on that team I believe this team right here does Buffalo Bills team even with injury and everything like that. Has weighed more Alex and he did what did I ever had he never had this much Kelly with the jet lag that I agree with that. You know he should have been at this Christine this was a no brainer for him geek he came in here to 97 team. Data gets intimate pieces but I agree if you look across the roster I would definitely trade the talent this team has I would I would take the town this team has. Over what those jets teams had in what 20092010. Right. Any art yea hey meg gonna move up thanks for the call I appreciate the discussion no doubt but I gotta gotta take a break those they think human having Alice. Our Brian YouTube I think you very much we'll take time out come back watch you on hold. We'll take a Christmas tree it's all about right but that's gonna do we come back is get those lights. Hammer on talk about what's going on when we got coming back here sideline views Korea yesterday got a sideline. To give the a lot of you a lot of credit. Give a lot of people who don't even live in this area a lot of credit counseling we come back here in the extra points to. So I'll take my medicine I got called out on Twitter by Lorenzo Alexander bills linebacker I mean I'm older than he was. I said he was two months only think Kyle Williams like ten days. It's actually know this guy the team you know these guys are sensitive about this all right Kyle was born on June 10 1983. And Lorenzo was born on May 31 1983. Lorenzen was 33 years 202 days. Kyle has 33 years 192 days. I'll I'll take my medicine. It's okay. I think the point remains but you know these football guys they get up there in other investors have been there'll around awhile it'll scented about the age thing right. Wolf the play pretty damn well aren't they. The rental and another second half yesterday he gets to. Eleven to have on the season he still looks top three or four in the league Kyle Williams now over forty sex is NFL career and again from the but the tackle spot he sixth. What Russia if you're watching idioms are shouldn't do this. But there's a TV element to the program sometimes and that is a key element to the program and sometimes I wanna make sure people see what's going on. One sakic half had the one where he was on his knees. Any grab RG three of the ankles. The commercial now he split a double team. I mean it was crazy when you watched it. Lie and then on replay again I saw I just happened a seat now happily focusing on Kyle that moment I've no idea why. He split the double team is incredible the move that he may the street that he had to get through there but all right so you've got me. Ten days not two months. It's stuff like that and am. I'm all in all. Ten years go to fill in Raleigh, North Carolina thanks for holding Philly on the extra points. A longer they'll decide not to holding more hilly there. I've those gonna talk about we need to be patient receiving emails agrees out of market Jersey American exports show. Yes our our you do what. As it pertains directs a one up or positive thing for all the go into a circus you know I'm not sport a competent sort of will be. We're watching about facts and that barn on with according. He messed bill messed bills back since Thurmond right. OK am I I agree he's he's incredible to watch he's he's unbelievable. Leaders use when you get open like want to get past the first. Weaver looks like oh we're what we're gonna see something special. But. On to pretend correctly I think works. He made in talkback here works you know he came in very blustery firing someone who knows what other sports aren't he cents granted you know maybe. Some of those numbers were problematic too but they still there or Portland and maybe now of course elected we're sort of go good. And a lot of wrecks and is strong and he's a likable person. And Woody Johnson here with the jets what that did not want to fire. But he would come out left with an untenable situation. And good defense it's regressed. Defense has hardly been good in buffalo they boredom and here just to keep it. This ship to ship right in the apparent that's what we didn't think we back caught. Are we knew who we didn't know what he promptly won a close call senses we did crack the stat. That it quotes make which and then that didn't mean staying in front of you. And that the Google captaincy that hear them do it that it will create more important in here that took to get this right. We cater to keep that's right we we do you can talk. To staff can 16217. Assistant on. You know we forget a man got hired their because that's what he'd want it. And the offenses and the best part of that he under is that the leadership. At times at times it has I think of the defense has at times I think both sides are pretty culpable what's happened here the last two years. Yeah but didn't defense when when push comes to shall remain corporate entities that as a quarterback. They just they do not I mean last year as an extension this year. Alex let's let them and Casey and even some parts that silly game where there would mostly Tyrod with a long structured notes. You know utility and then in Washington and just can't do it at work we talked about that blaster or lack of effort. That the defense was lost cousins just went. All clothes and other day against them. It was it. Imus Imus I know it's and it's purely rankings again but to I'm just look at the rankings in offense for the bills this year's ranked. Eighteenth in yards a game thirteenth in yards replace the defense is sixteenth in yards per game fourteenth in your for played a pretty much even I think that. The pretty average statistically amble sides of the ball and you could point to any game you watch. And you could probably say it's the over the ball and deepens his fault but I think lake overall we look at the whole picture there were times this defense. Really faltered and let them down they're tired of the defense carried because reopens vault faltered and let them. Yes two pronged I'm not I'm not culpability on both sides. The exact that the their 500 in the in the states. I've been here your overall point is that you just think Rex should should go right. Yeah I didn't own pinky are you very likable person great you know he's got to like but overall CEO of your team. I just I think he's consistent and black you know a lot of key areas you know attention to be Cahill or completion and he let you guys kind of police themselves which in certain instances and it's been so good. And I'll take you I appreciate that phone call market now always appreciation listen and and Colin and I think that that would be. A valid argument if you wanna move on from but there are a lot of things humble side of the ledger I think that at the end of the season that's with a gonna do is kind of put those on paper. The bottom talk about him discuss what happens. That's happened today and I'm told. Notice this is an. Despite what you read yesterday in the morning or whatever time. It 30550 the number to call. 8552. By fifty heading get to my sideline is a disaster that come back. Again and give some credit to a lot of fans out there harmful side of the ledger.