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He's always Simon and Jeremy. At a incredibly fast moving and extremely dangerous dumpster fire burning at Orchard Park. Barbara catalog one bills drive I think quickly exploded in size and intensity seven in nine. Not good. Ownership players this whole organization back and I say this much starts would make you are what your record says you. We're seven and nine so anything that encompasses the full cooperation falls on my shoulders and I take full responsibility. We just finished our weekly phone conversation was scared myself and Rex Rex asked to speak to him privately after that I was informed that Rex would no longer be our coach I wasn't privy to the conversation so I cannot get into does he. Back then and we'd have to talk to the schools we decided as a group that we did make it a committee approach and they would have the final say. And this time the ownership has faith in me and I think to myself and we'll see where it goes I wasn't privy to any part of Rex Ryan being fired until I was told by Terry who grew up. It's not policy were breaking in but with ownership statement. I didn't feel the need to come out my role is not to figure out why my role was to take that information and go forward and that this organization best possible way. So for me I cannot. Organization messages if you look at the season in totality. We did some good things we weren't consistent we were in a lot of games we were highly competitive we're not afford twelve feet were seven and nineteen now do we need to get better absolutely. What we're not that far away non WG ER Sports Radio 550. Where does one begin. You know there's only one team of the NFL this year the Finnish foreign twelve. That went at all or just want the rams. Where does one begin. Actually this is how. Silly I am. I immediately going to the rams to see how many games they were and if they want credit for heating bills game for being yet they were in the bills' game there rail lines game there and mine is like most of their starting defensive line. Home and hear the rams losses write the bills in their definitely in death lions by three sit giants by seven Panthers by three dolphins by four saints for a 28. Patriot Lamotte who's of the falcons and some of the Seahawks niners by one. Say they that they were close they were in a lot of games is. That's what I wonder their GM knew that Jeff Fisher was being fired and doesn't make it right that doesn't make the top ten of things that Doug Whaley said yesterday. All right so where to begin. You know I would I I got it wrong I think after corrected I I put my on my column up of the website last night after the Whaley press conference in the oval teaser headline I think I got a rock. When Brad writer we hear and you work with him yes it was the truth detector or not the lied to correct it was I gotta correct that it was the truth detector because you know we want. Claiming that they anybody backed and was lying we are actually saying that they tell the truth and we're identifying true. Okay come I'm actually gonna claim their line Harris I mean he's he's. Sold many times yesterday and I'm I know that's right that's harsh to call someone a liar. There there's a difference and they're not telling the truth reassure the well being raised that way in the column that make people feel better being disingenuous they're being oh baloney right they're full of bull Loney. You said it yesterday and if it if I I couldn't. It rang true shot many times yesterday if Brad was here and they ran the truth detector and yesterday's press conference it would have been going up so many times you wouldn't hurt the press conference. Just be honest. Nobody believes the general manager had no idea the head coach was about to be fire. Amman really. And and I am and that's that's more believable in the follow up then it's more believable he didn't know is going to be fired. Then it is that he didn't ask why didn't ask why doesn't you know every even. About not Rex Ryan being did you ever think no I never thought about it. If you if you are OK I can't speak for you if you got fired today. The first thing I would do would go to manage to know what you guys doing what happens what did what did you write what what's here. That's what I got to director from a bus Jeremy is fired all right well I'll just do the show tomorrow on I don't even bring it up you know I don't not a bad thing about the fact. The guy worked for twelve years which is far right now and not just you wouldn't ask you wouldn't even think that right back that they are now and the end audit. And then you would say maybe you guys think that's wrong that's that's me that's why am I don't ask the question onward and upward. And that's the kind of thing that yesterday I told Joseph wanna see if Whaley could get matter of Whaley could ever and ever appear like things weren't perfect there's that they're great example of how. His mindset releases public persona is too. None I didn't even need to know I'll remote port yeah well all right well you fighter football coach. Hey look kind of team are you building you might wanna know that right you're gonna you catch your blueprints W picking the 53 now and I might wanna know what kind of coach is gonna coach the 53 or vote quarterback or. Linebackers are the defensive take. I feel like you're coaches have a role and what your team looks like. And Doug Whaley will he be told. Who they're gonna hire. This Khalilzad he's no different with any other will even ask that's the thing like yeah hook it around instead of making it a firing decision making a hiring decision yeah Iowa I actually was even aware that Terrell Austin got the job and you know what I didn't ask why equipment that's. Ludicrous like it. So it was. Pretty bad day I went pretty bad Dave Williams bad debut organization. Is it really eerie it was a bad day for him it was a bad day it was a bet they organization. I wasn't surprised he did what he did. Because. Ended in assisting in phone lines are open 8030 by fifty hope may be heard it live. Maybe you know you've heard it since then you've heard clips whatever noble Bob was talking about all day yesterday take a lot to calls and will will spend. The majority of the morning. I mean I've got like two pages of notes of stuff that I just. You rolled your right I'm not I wasn't angry chairman I don't know how you felt I I saw the reaction on Twitter. There were some anger. There were some frustration. There with some despair there were different emotions that bills fans were experiencing. And then we're sharing on Twitter. But I will tell you that. Maybe I'm surprised that the extent of the number of non truths that were uttered yesterday by the general manager of the bills but if you listen to Doug Whaley without us on Fridays during the season you had to know what was coming. That and that's why I heard it I wasn't angry I rolled my eyes. But I also know that they're just they're just that's on the of the true. There's so many. I even know where to start yesterday Rex Ryan was the obvious one the the the Tyrod Taylor was bench we had if we wanted to evaluate what we had are you kidding me you didn't know EJ Manuel can't play quarterback. You you you had no idea this guy couldn't lets a value 82 and further what the last three times Doug Whaley was on the show. What do they say about cartel jaunts he's not ready he's not ready is not ready just not ready all of a sudden it was hey let's evaluate cartel Jones. The the stuff about about. This coach search is gonna be different though it isn't. No he's he's leading the search and then guess what. But leading the search is just bringing candidates to the the goal rights to make their mind up see there's a cut this couple things and here I. What are their owners the owners wanna run the teams but they don't want people think their run the team's. Because in all honesty in a different fans are gonna approach different ways Jerry Jones runs the cowboys right right Dan Snyder runs the rescue instruct. They openly run those teams and and they open themselves to criticism for football decisions because of it yet but they also gave credit when things go well like right about now Jerry Jones looking pretty good right. And it. I guess I feel like if you want to run the team and you wanna say on pick in the coach I make decisions I don't like the quarterback I'm going this direction. It is your team you get to do that and I'm not even upset about that I don't care of by owner or owners wanna run the team. But if you wanna do it. And you. Wanna seem like you're not doing it that's gonna lead to situations like yesterday but you hire people to run. It in the bill's case the football operations he's the GM you hire someone to run your hockey operations department that's Tim Murray. You're gonna fire the football coach. And not even consult your general manager. Which OK we know that that is not true Brett we know that Whaley boy we must we and we have to admit. That Whaley must have known that was happening well cared for gullah in his interview with a. Associated Press said about Rex they'd been having discussions over the course of the season. At some point if Terry goal each week is asking Doug Whaley. Hey what's gone wrong here would be I mean. How'd that how does Doug Whaley have no clue that it's possible the owner might fire the head coach. Who doesn't at some point Doug Whaley the opinion included something about how yet the defense isn't doing well and it's Rex is fall. And all of a sudden it's like whoa 00 well really that's got fire right quick that didn't see it coming. Mean c'mon. You know it's like we wake up 1 morning and go holy bull I think that's coming. And you didn't ask why I got ranked right I just you know there was the thing about Russ Russ Brandon never been involved in football decisions. On do you think people are. She's been involved in football decisions that part of around here. Think there's nothing I mean he did it. And at its funny as I don't get upset and I come on the show wanna start talking about a work myself up over but. It was. It was I've I've made the analogy before this is say it's preparing a candidate for a political debate. And they know the questions that are coming the bills. That would what Doug Whaley said yesterday was nothing of his own opinion. Doug Whaley said what the bills wanted their general manager to say in a press conference to the fans. And it was just about Tyrod giving tyrant a franchise quarterback he wouldn't even give an opinion on that might give it to bring it. What about the structure do you think head coach should report to the GM the owner I have no opinion on that whatever whatever the bill that. You know I'm all for the team whatever is good for the team I'm forty had no opinion on anything right no opinion on what type of coach him one for us in the of the way were going about our coaching search on wanted to evolves too many details because we are against other teams that have openings. How crazy is that treatment I think. If if do first off. Are the bills that ego autistic they think other teams are following their model. They've missed the pirates are seventeen straight years this is like deep you know this is the stands a show with the opposite. Whatever the bills are doing you do the opposite he's if it Doug Whaley is accurate I heard that statement I'd like you're kidding me right you can't even give an answer to that. If Doug Whaley said yesterday you know what folks we'd like a coach with previous head coaching experience. Are the rams and jaguars in niners now adjusting their search for. To deal with the William Whaley says they wanna area aggressive forward thinking guy we've got to get one of those guys gateway Whaley said looking for defense minded head coach who preferred support 30. Let's go into you know what we weren't getting in have you guys like that but the bills are going to let's go interview for three defensive coaches that's the sturtze and he said. But but but and as I said I I I'm I'm sorry I sound like I'm upset but I'm not if you he said. What the team wanted him to say the answers were practiced the I'm gonna get the answers were Hearst. You could clearly listened to it. He had a statement he added you know wasn't privy to that the owners issued a statement he was given responses and no matter how many different ways the question was asked. This is his response if they ask you about the economy you're gonna say this if they ask you about education you're gonna say this and don't move from that statement. And I I'm pretty sure they ultimately dog remember less is better. Don't say a lot because look at him you you would agree with this Jeremy and says I'm not saying anything. That the that I mean to be offensive to Doug Whaley he's never been comfortable. In press conferences are live interviews he just isn't. He has a hard time with it depends on what he's talking about and it. I see outing he likes to talk about that that's that's his. Area than you ever team you ask him about scouting out wicket talked about Tyrod and Rex is future all that and he would struggle with it. And you bring up a where you go on this weekend I'm going to Nebraska born in Michigan State whatever he is this all in to talk about that stuff. I'd imagine he'd be great. Gotta talk about about scouting off the year two like if you got a jig is when we talk about it because we will talk to Doug Whaley closer to the draft and he will not sane thing about players because. And that case you don't tell the stretcher after cracked and if you got him you know with a beer at a bar and said like what do you think about cornerback ax I'm sure he'd tell a doctor here often tell you all about how I look at Adam what you see which you don't see. But you know being GM is an exercise in. Going up there and not saying anything you know like I'm gonna not answer your questions I asked him two weeks ago it's upon Gilmore was at the top of their list for free agent targets and he said they're all at the top of the list. OK I mean like you're here to not answer my questions I get that sometimes the nature of being in that position is that Sergio Brown is at the top of their list with Stephon Gilder all at the top yacht. Yup yeah. I would hate Jonathan makes if you're listening buddy congratulations. You're right up there with Stephon Gilmore does legs Afghanistan. So in all of it it was a very bad day for the bills that. Does it. And I acts such Jason Cole of Yahoo! look. Bliss the job opening an illicit the bills and informal poll of NFL executive said an executive who knows who we call signal seven people and the bill's job is listed as the last job the least desirable job which not so sure if that's necessarily true as it just goes really bad. LA is being ham strung in a giant market with a white on the C dis loyal fan base they're just kind of back when Jared off like. I'm not exactly sure that it's the worst job but that doesn't surprise needed seed NFL executives what exactly they got a great job yeah. So I don't know how bad is today how bad was yesterday. It to me is a dated scream and yell about obviously and it does indicate that their structure is. I don't think your structure is all that unusual but what he's than usual is there. It seems there there and their feel that they need to explain it as something else. You know the owner runs the team Oca right. Don that's on Evans the Evans a lot of places that's not unusual. You know sometimes. You're better effort at at hiding that. Other times these wide on the open like him but I'd I'd pick the players right sometimes your football people talk you out of it. Jerry Jones was talked out of drafting Johnny Mendes album. And some meant somewhere along the way that the deck press got maybe it was Jerry Jones that said. Give me deck in a moment. You win games nobody cares who runs the team. Yet but but for me I guess it depends any what are each person does or once and at the end of the day. Edie is his business the the puck to his his and her bid if the goal is business. They owned the team so at the end of the day as owners they can do whatever they want. You know we have a level of boss this year we have a program director we have a general manager and then we have the C he CEO for the entire corporation this is up. One station and up. A large chain of radio stations as part of a big corporation. And at the end of the day the guy who owns the company or or the CEO whatever you can do whatever you want but the problem I have with egg again depending on what you believe from yesterday's press conference and what you don't. I I do have a problem with the owner. Not consulting the general manager about a significant move like firing at college fired coach Brady didn't say hey listen that. You know what we got to cut that we got to cut the fiftieth guy and Iraq to the guy just fumbled a big pot we don't need him around got up firing the head coach Jimmy that there is and it's the same owner group reaches continuity. Who fires the head coach in the same season graft to games that fire the offensive corner I'd like it a run that by the G yet. No luck. The GM let's note the GM could say listen Surat I I think that's a mistake. Bum thank you for sharing your opinion but it's my team and I'm gonna do what I wanna do so yet and that's an if you are what are you. Opt in if you're tied into that guy and a big way that guy could Celek he's gone I'm onto you gonna to fire me too and has happened before you know like yep if you're gonna do that that I don't wanna be here either because I feel. I feel we're close. If they're close maybe maybe Iraq whenever review Whaley doesn't want Rex fired maybe he does maybe you and Anthony Lynn had been. Kind of working behind the scenes to make this happen like you know what I think we can get this to happen and it didn't get wrecks out the door. If there are enough signs of lack of attention to detail. Or lack of accountability whatever it might be you know you plant that bug in someone's here they start to notice it more and more and lo and behold. You know you've engineer to coach firing orbit it's just as simple as it does not to be that. It's it's as simple as hit the defense isn't good. And they don't even get a lot of men on the field all the time let's fire coach Ben Affleck right which it sounds like that's really what laws. Look at it in in all of this. It it gets to the the important part of the discussion. We're gonna spend morning the morning talking about what he said because a lot of it was so preposterous but the important part of the discussion I think are two things what. Does this hurt the bill's chances of get in the god they want to be head coach probably not but I was gonna say. I don't think so because it is still a head coaching job in the national foot and a league they're not exactly shooting that high. There aren't I mean I had no offense that I got they're not even gone for like the top guy and the the guys on the market Josh McDaniels right. I'll show they're not going to a list not to say that entity Lin is a secondary coach because we'll see how he ultimately has let's be honest. This is big the names that have come out Sean McDermott. Will leave many fans of the who what and you wouldn't have trouble convincing frank wrecked their job if you wanted frank Harold Goodwin ansari who take. What these guys are gonna be too good for this job may be you know sometimes when your assistant your hot coordinator like Josh McDaniels or Matt Patricia is a good example of the first time you get a job you wanna make sure you take the right job. Because if you take the wrong job next thing you know the shine comes off your name and you've got to build it back up over the course of ten more years so. Jim Harbaugh is a guy like this right when Jim Harbaugh was coming to the NFL from Stanford it was about finding the right job him and he did it. And did well with it and then they kicked mother or because they're dysfunctional to. So the bills you know is this gonna prevent them from getting their candidate. Probably not but then again their candidate list might be lessened because of this stuff. Maybe this is why Josh McDaniels won't give them the time today or why Matt Patricia probably wouldn't or maybe they wouldn't because they don't want to compete with Brady and Belichick. It's funny you know what just popped into my head or just thinking about I don't remember when he said it. But made maybe it was when the gaullist took over listener Russ Brandon said something about was that no maybe it was at the sabres of the bills. Transparency. It was Ted black on the sabres here remember the blizzard ball. When if somebody said something about it's all about transparency we don't wanna hide anything from the fans we want to be honest with our fans might have been a sabres thing but whatever it's one buffalo. This that that it was frustrating yesterday because I think as a fan you listen Judy think they're feed me a just a load of bull. And as they said. I I don't think it. You know that one of the questions was hey Doug yep and got along with the last two coaches you know. Are wrong quit whale are Ryan was fired. Well it hurts you is your reputation around the league's Sully door bell in old. Soiled whatever and you won't be able to get a good coach I don't think that's the case as I said. It's still ahead coaching job in the NFL I don't think will be having to scrape like the bottom of the barrel and get you know. Just anybody to take the job I really don't. I I also think you know in in terms of no. Whether it in the whether it helps the team doesn't help the team winning losing whatever. I don't see don't put a lot of stock in that is just frustrated because you'd like to have an honest answer please tell me the truth. Don't act like we're you know four year old kid who can't handle the truth. Please be honest with your fan base and they worked on this with a fan base yesterday and I do think I don't need. A head coach reporting to an owner. I want a chain of command I wanna head coach reporting to the GM and the GM reporting to the owner and the bills don't have it that way and I don't I'm not sure that it's going to change. And it just you know the idea like I said the idea of the GMs is supposedly not knowing what's going on. In the press conference screens at this guy doesn't wanna be a GM he should be esque out. He shouldn't be in the position of being in general manager he does he says he's he's responsible fight for final language on contracts baloney he doesn't get involved in contracts and these. The limit that they've set themselves the concept publicly said. When it comes to contracts and agency Jim over corporate Russ Britt and yet I don't I give credit to win at least be in the loyal soldier. He sat there yes nanny took the bullet to the organization basically. He said on the darkest up. I have final say a language of the contract. No that's not true. Is it that hard to say no I don't emitted. Well there'll there're there are aware of the perception. They're aware that of the perception that Ross runs football or makes decisions in football so they're very. Sensitive to any implication. That decision is out of the GM's hands against time and that comes in gym over or two and and that's because for better for worse you fans here those two names they've been around forever and they associate those two names with failure. So the bills won a distance themselves from the people that are in their own organization when it comes to. Those decisions now there's two things you can do own up there wouldn't say that's what they do that's what Jim over there does this we have lots of guys around the league and have roles just like that jerk. The alternative is. Dismiss them and get other people that people are mad that so you know you could just say he does the contract which as you point out they have said publicly before. So as bad day for the bills that day but I get the next coach. Draft Sam de Arnold and he's three years. You know what you know that the guys we got to get the break does a guy want to talk about him. I I couldn't get the sleepless night near so impressed by Sam does he would freaking amazing. All my god he looked great. Member how you felt about Lamar Jackson. Holy crap well damned Arnold is awesome. Mike Jackson did and Heisman but he definitely tailed off the NBA season but I I I watch that kid that's like on. Abkhazian Tony eighteen draft no. Went to the bills have to tank to get to the top of the draft yet Sam Arnold yet that blow this is another part of this which I'm sure many people we met me for saying bottom it is my opinion. Two to three years from now the different organization will be really dysfunctional and horrible and going through all of this stuff and they'll have. Laughingstock if there's and then we'll dress and Arnold went a bunch of games and they'll be talking an obvious change culture. So I really believe that's pretty much out works. The best way to change your culture is to be starting quarterback so on the I'm still thinking draft in one. Smith are like all yesterday as I thought wow man you just these you'll get your quarterback it. Not really but you know it's another thing but he's dead we're constantly trying to find the right quarterback not are you kidding I think that. Not. They've got they've had bodies in here they tried Kevin Cobb the antibodies actually tried Kyle Orton tried a lot of different things. They have an often tried first round pick they haven't. Tried second round pick right they certainly haven't tried the draft the guy what we have a question mark on our roster usually they wait till it's too late correct. That's not constantly trying to find running mate this year is a perfect year to do it and hold crush crush your fingers hold your breath. All right we're late start 8030550. To join us and we covered a lot of ground and we sold a lot to get to 888550. To 550. Fault lines are open you can share your thoughts on. The press conference from yesterday we'll get into what Kemper goal told doubt we'll talk about what Terry Google told the Associated Press. We'll get to comment from locker clean out day yesterday and whole bunch of other stuff. We wanna hear from you also on the show today south going to be when it's at 7 o'clock. Talk more about everything we just the Scots and south sabres coach Tim miles the witness at 745 they're playing the Rangers tonight. We'll have the game and WGR Paul's gonna join us at 830 all headed your way this morning. I have full confidence in my reputation in the league circles not them obviously in the media circles but only circles that that would not be prohibitive. It will be an open search and I can understand why people would connect the dots because he is a familiar face but it will again be an open search that will be talked about during the interview process and again. I'm all about whatever it takes for us to be winning. The wedding some of his comments from the press conference yesterday it's available and on demand audio and is about forty minutes. Lot of stuff about racks in the firing of wrecks with some other stuff there about. Tyrod Taylor and other things structured reorganization. A bunch of other stuff came up as well. You missed it again check it out on demand audio WGR 550 dot com Howard Jeremy Braden with you 8030550. 888550. To 550 would get some calls we'll get your thoughts in a what you heard from the bills GM yesterday whether any of this stuff actually matters to if we say it enough. Sam Rosen Josh Josh ours and Josh Rosen Sam Arnold and Lamar Jackson all. In next year's class. Yeah I got a question you know the bills sent out an email yesterday they announced some future signings yeah can they stake a claim now to Sam Arnold to sign him in the future GAAP. Mean ice. He Aaron let me get to have good calls and and and we can talk a little bit about him because it was just a that was so much fun while it was and throw the ball last night now it was spoke first it was a wildly entertaining game but he looked. So good as a redshirt freshman Cuba. Richer on WG arbor right ahead. Howard should particularly that we got wicket listening to what elite. He's in education. Income and that they'll be out there statement. That's what they do their masters and he didn't think the light lie in the lie. Are in it which it'll recorder I don't know what water act and the question what do you do for a living really. That's why are our brain while and go typical apple. Populated. I don't want one and I got to get away from the Jimmy rappel idea. The last thing on earth the bill should do is trade for a quarterback from the patriot the patriots are going to trade you Jimmy drop low that's all you've ever need to know about Jimmy problem there were looking for a last report I saw there were looking for a first than before yeah I had someone text me last night. I would too would Twitter. The bill should trade the tenth pick for drop below half conflict. I don't mind the idea to use an attempt on a quarterback you know. But think about that. The patriots traded Drew Bledsoe in the division because they'd seen him for ten years or whatever they'd seen is ceiling in the figure like all right first round pick he's all but it won't be that much. They're gonna trade Jimmy Rob Lowe in the division to the bills. And if they do that are they doing it while lighting and the hundred dollar bills on fire. Tackling in the meeting room and say like if you believe we got these suckers they give us the tenth overall pick for this kid. Tom Brady will be forty when next season starts if drop a law is good. Not trading him yeah especially to the bills although mr. Brady didn't show any signs of slowing down the bodies forty yeah it will be up to him. Some day you might just go. And something breaks or something new the organization might say we're you know we're moving on I would not touch no no grapple no. I think it is a trap as admiral Akbar my very good if a borrower that trapped very nice I saw rove went on vacation so I'm glad you brought that up. Yeah I don't. I liked what I saw from him it's but it's such a small sample size. As I said. Not a completely fair analogy but the girl rock below discussion. In the back of my head I keep thinking Rob Johnson now Rob Johnson bills traded for him today he didn't play in the regular season his was based on pre season play. But dropped below eight when I thought either the game against Miami where got hurt you would really got the game against Arizona he was good. It's an extra rain only small sample size look at your willing to give up your first round pick. Load up Rasheed for Kirk cousins if Washington tags them. And what I think and then be 21 round picks whatever go go give up your first round picks to go get a guy's got a better body worked in Jimmy drop them. You know the thing about Whaley. He's not a named for a he's not stupid did it this is not a a lack of intelligence. I just think you know you have a guy who basically is being told here's what we're gonna say. In other bills come up with their message as an organization. And this you know yesterday was pretty much no matter. What way the question was asked here's what we're going to say. Here's our message about Rex here's our message about Tyrod here's our message about ownership here's arm and you know wind and I don't know Tom pulled them don't give an opinion on anything but I think yesterday was all about this is was in the GM was sitting there. But you might as well had it was an organization press conference in the bills. Put out with the bills wanted to be. Wanted to hurt and that was basically. There's no dysfunction are on the same page. Pay gap op I'm a loyal soldier whatever whatever the owner once I've got a boss I follow his directive but the whole idea of I don't ask I mean it's it's. Preposterous to make anybody believe it as they said the nice thing is at the end of the day you can be really frustrated and and you can listen to that go that's a bunch of crap. At the end of the day. I don't think it it keeps them from getting a coach I don't necessarily think it keeps them from finding a way to win football games I just think it's frustrating to hear all that stuff. It doesn't it doesn't instill confidence in years but I don't think it will correlate to you guys were doomed for five more years here's where it could doom them and this is. We've we've seen this actually play out so Whaley drafts. Sandy lot can write big target on the outside they're gonna they're gonna throw it Watkins is worth. 21 round draft picks and then immediately after that they are ground and pound coach may think that's the kind of thing where. You don't seem to have you don't evidently right mashup that didn't match up with what your GM was building with his roster right. Probably not in watching is of course can still be a part of a ground a ground and pound offense and you can pass it to him sparingly it's a fair point right when it Whaley says on what. Type of coach they're gonna get he says I don't wanna do about the blueprint. Would it being insane for medium that. Kind of just take away from that that. He doesn't know because it's not up to him. He's gonna lead the search right and he's gonna bring in the candidates but ultimately he won't choose so we can't say. I'll tell you what I'd like a guy with a off a sharp offensive mind who's gonna do another that because then if the Google is like Sean McDermott. Then Whaley appears to have told a lie or what ever to have been wrong or changed his mind right. Whaley last year in the offseason said Taylor needed to do a lot of things in order to. Get a contract extension right then he got a contract extension so things change in the bill seems kind of operate a little bit by the seat of their pants. And when it comes to building this team. I don't think they have an overall. I a grand plan. And I mentioned this in passing once you were on vacation this day go figure that I know Imus and his once it was a appoint a kind of came to. If you owned this football team. You should not only have an idea of what kind of team you wanna be this year. But the following year and the year after and the year after and I mean like right down to. Whether or not you're gonna bill would do home as your next stadium and if you wanna be a really fast dome team or if you're gonna be open air and you wanna be. Like Pittsburgh or new wing and a lot of these teams play outdoors but you should really. Have like whether it's a mission statement. Visual well vision something right where you gonna be heard do are you going to be or again who are you going to be in if you're gonna change every five years. That's okay too. Just like have direction. And yesterday's press numbers gives you very little to think that there is the is a direction. The decision on Tyrod Taylor right it's it's the same kind of story where all right let's talk or coaching candidates let's get all the opinions on Tyrod. You know what would so and so says what would Sean McDermott the defense according to the Panthers say. You know you'd ask him what to do Tyrod no wait. Don't answer it is if you're our coach how would you stop it you're defensive coordinator yeah it's Sean McDermott lays out like I think it's kind of easy guys you make of your quarterback. Then I take into account what he want Tyrod Taylor does he wanna bring him back. So like there's there's so many questions to to be answered and I don't really know if they have a clear first question yeah like what. What kind of coach are you know who would you take us into. What's that erection what's the overall overarching plan for having a good football team. Well as to I tell you what you brought up. You made me think of two things that I have a problem with yesterday and this has nothing do with him not in saying he didn't know Rex was about to be fired. It it was his response about the quarterback and it was also something about Tyrod Taylor. Let me get the break and wanna talk a bubble both and we got back. We'll get some calls into a got some folks lineup wonderful 8030550. Join us 888550. Q 550 year on WGR. Pilot in this. I'm the GM. Football operations. I was told by my boss that I will no longer be working with a certain person my role is not to figure out why my role is to take that information. And go forward and put this organization in the best possible way. To win football so for me I did not. Sheer curiosity. I mean I would be. Really fired wrecks they'll kidding how come. Okay that beyond. What you'd call sort let me make this quick. There was another thing I didn't like yesterday you bring a quarterback and everything and and and you know the bill still searching for the quarterback and one of the questions they asked the Doug Whaley is today was maybe they're searching maybe not mean Whaley had lots to say about Tyrod. The constantly trying to find the right one. If they're constantly searching then they. Anyway he said he wouldn't give an opinion on tyra you Japanese franchise quarterback he was asked about whether they're gonna pick up as a decision made about the option. And he talked about how well we're not really gonna evaluate that until we get the new head coach you understand it's going to be a decision by myself and ownership along with the new head coach so we have to finalize that part of the scripted before we can write the end of it so it's going to be part of the valuation process. Along with everybody else on the team. A new coaching staffs gonna come in. And evaluate every single player on the roster. OK I guess that's how it works but you're the GM and you said. The 53 man roster is yours 46 game day roster is the coach and if anybody should be able to evaluate Tyrod Taylor whether he's good enough for not would you think you'd be. The guy who oversaw is signing. And has been watching him practice and play every day for the last two years does he need Sean McDermott war Vance Joseph. Or Harold Goodwin to commend and tell them whether or not to keep Tyrod Taylor. Wouldn't Doug Whaley be the best. Person to make that decision on Tyrod Taylor. And it is his job he's the GM needs his roster he puts together shouldn't he be saying to the four goal is yes we keep them. No we don't keep them and then you into your head coach and you figure they did what's going on a quarterback lone occupant Tyrod Taylor and here's why. I don't I don't need to wait on Tyrod Taylor and asked the new head coach about him right I've got. Got a body of work here that the GM knows all about. If not then you got to wait okay than the coach is gonna go watch tape and he's gonna get back tier but hey man you see this guy every day. You know what Greg Roman was trying to do with them when Anthony Lynn was trying to do with him what he succeeded and and what he didn't succeed in. You make your mind up and you decide whether you're doing about Tyrod Taylor. And you do with it with it would you let the owner know what's going on and then you act accordingly and try to find a new. Quarterback if you need to find one if they don't higher entity Lenin be a third offensive coordinator for Taylor and it's three years. And they are about to do that. Hadn't thought about that well from a continuity standpoint the easy thing would would be. Keep keep the quarterback keep the guy who was all of our offense and just let all these other interviews think if they're gone. If they were definitely going to keep Taylor. I would think you definitely keep playing and if you're open to other ideas than the other interviews I guess explore ideas. There's also this is gets back to the plan was the plan just to be as good as you possibly can in one year to finally get people off your back about the drought. Or to build a championship team. Mean they don't have to be necessarily mutually exclusive but what is the plan for Doug Whaley is he. In a spot Aureus to prove to the owners that things are getting better he needs a good year I don't watch Jack moss and Reggie rag when next year or else he's fired. And then what happens and the coach that they just hired as a group stays on in the get a lead new GM the work with him. Like but the new GM takes on a coach at the previous organism courses this guy hired and round and round we go again an they'll stop when they get a quarterback exactly. I'll keep saying that every day and I'll point every team in every example where it's true. I know that there are big big issues that we'd all like the bills to kind of get little bit buttoned up in a little more attention to detail. But. Says they get a quarterback who is awesome this all goes away I shouldn't say goes away we just don't talk about it because we talk about the playoff game they've got coming up this weekend. As opposed to the press conference in 030 this is our annual January right every year in January segment out of that press conference. Other teams have and are talking about their games they've got going on this weekend. The me grabbed Oakland by the way to be the best example this I think about Oakland along the quarterback. Is Oakland the biggest joke franchise in the league in total joke total disaster. Now they're fine but other fine and their owner Al might move the team to Vegas is being talked about as an owner of the year candidate Y. And because of the thirteen wins but you went thirteen games you can do anything you want. They were fine until their quarterback got her and other not so fine anymore. This then I wouldn't expect him to be Houston but Houston might start Brock Oswalt and so you never know down. That maybe the lesser of two so I mean I know that sounds like the easy way out it's a hard way to get. That easy way out but it is absolutely the most easily out Brad and lack a lot of you're on WGR go right ahead. More good have been here thank you to. Got three quick points are up first thing is you know. As a Bockwoldt satire fan like I could take seventeen year lose them. On the chin but whatever they're trying to beat Russia through that cause problems I mean I was in this respect the local community won't stand for. Secondly birdie start off our head coaching search for coordinator joining rank in the top five you know felt or how they're gonna translate to a top five Paul Nussbaum the championship. And thirdly. I think we should take keep our terror at a cost effective and I think we don't have a quarterback in the draft yet this year grateful that under contract. Well then maybe you got to that next year if we didn't wait to get the right guy school yard Taylor and her stuff that you brought. That's probably the in the least offensive plan is just they decide they're they are gonna pick up that option for Taylor or. Talk about negotiating a new deal which Taylor by the way yesterday said he was he didn't say he wasn't open to it he didn't rule out the possibility and Bulldog made a good point and maybe he says that to appear amenable to other teams. And Casey goes to market like on a team and I'll do what it takes up their. Maybe maybe not. Maybe he really is open to a mean here he has a great chance to start if he's going to. Leaving go to another team. Mean are we assuming he's the starter right away who the offensive coordinator for that team are they built to. Run the ball super effectively so he is not the throw it that much which is how this team is built. A lot of questions if your Taylor. Do you give to job openings one has the number one offense rushing and asks that you don't have to do too much the other one says we're gonna throw 47 times a game Tyrod. Which often does he wanna be a part of that and that kind of question is something the bills my when asked themselves try to discount. By this fire the coach that brought in ground and pound. Is running backs coach is though lead candidates are they going to be. Returned to ground and pound is that gonna be out sprayed on the billboards next year the return to ground and pound the marketing campaign well it sure seems like. They are setting up to be the exact same team they were this year I was I think they're hoping for better results I would think if they if they keep Tyrod that the the philosophy offensively would be the same and you could your right I mean you know that that his contract is not restrictive. It's a sixteen million dollar cap. The way it's structured you could have one more year and move on after next season if you don't do anything from Taiwan I had this revelation it's the us Weiler two year 35 million dollar deal essentially that you wanted to move this is one of those things that I think it's obvious but and I've never said it this way. Leaving yesterday I thought this. For those that are split on tyra those that say keep them the most is sake move on both of those. Feelings those emotions about your football team come from the same spot which is I'm I'm really scared that we we will be stuck here. Like if you move on from Taylor who was the quarterback we're gonna be stuck here in this drought. Or if you keep Taylor if he's okay but let's be honest we're still gonna be stuck in a different version of this so. If Taylor comes back and vaults them to another level that's wonderful. It just doesn't seem like it's all that likely. And if he gets to a level where they start winning ten games ten games ten games and let's say they have the the Cincinnati Bengals last five years well. That's just the different level purgatory just kind of stuck in the same spot. And sometimes that can be the spot that prevents you from ever getting above that. Eagle 30550 to join it's gone all hang out we got lines open if you wanna get them we're kicking around dugway at least press conference from yesterday. We'll get into have some of the coach candidates and some of the other news gesture from yesterday Erin Williams Stephon Gilmore. Free agents Tyrod Taylor's comments. We have a deal of the day for you today ladies and gentlemen from my buffalo perks it's a four pack to select that university men's basketball games at. The Gallagher said the seven dollar value is George for just forty bucks replaced take the kids were sporting event you'll have a lot of fun. 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