Jan 3, 2017|
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He's he's not John Murphy show. Welcome to the show and showed John Murphy early on to note here for the next three hours of talks. Bills football NFL football would view it. You're now in the collective. Store bills are all you know line actually came out with a mr. accurately and so they get we want to show everybody what. That's cool I got a couple of those like you. I'd I'd promote it at that we have we meaning that route we need to make them built for sale I believe. It up shall we got a lot to talk about today as usual in the in includes the events of yesterday. As usual you're welcome to join us what kind of turn it for the two today and talk about the next coach of the Buffalo Bills but. Let's let you know was on the show today first of coming up at the bottom at this hour Sam Munson from pro football focused he's real interest in peace he says the bills should build around terror Tyrod Taylor. Not show him the door. And of course pro football focuses via analytic site that uses grades based on their grades they've got Tyrod Taylor graded out as the tenth best quarterback in the NFL this year that would surprise surprise me. But he he makes a case wide bill should built around right theater assembled guests on the show before the season he's in the Dublin believe that exit. But obviously hear him talk about the article but in America. Now my pinkie. You know he laid it out there as you know obviously Tyrod has flaws and he has to improve obviously in the passing game. But at the same time you know how many quarterbacks throughout the and that's that's basically what he's seeing him in yet in the article I you're everybody's trying to get this you know Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers but guess what it'll come available that off and so when you have a guy that had been. Teach you to the number one rushing team in the only game and you know he. He has his limitations throwing the ball but he hasn't touchdown passes this year as well he's a guy that also helped you did to the top two scoring team. On offense you know so that's his thought process on Tyrod and so he's saying you should build around him and not destruction on the door. Table join us at 1230 to discuss an article I would rectitude that appears to the pro football focus caught it at 1230. Leisure and knows of bowler regular Tuesday guess typically we do do's and don'ts Woodley Jake. With the season over there's really not much more we can learn from legion about do's and don'ts but we'll type it in Canada. He was one of the outspoken defenders of Rex Ryan when the news came a week ago that wrecked had been. Those of parting ways with wrecks on the talk legion about that about the jets game at about his future. He is going to be an unrestricted free agents of the jays can join us in studio at 1 o'clock. 130 today we're gonna talk with Kenneth Davis a backup running back for the bills in the Super Bowl run. The reason for that 24 years ago today degree comeback win the signature win in franchise history. We'll talk with Kenny Davis about that game and about his role in that game coming up. At 130 today and coming up at 2 o'clock long time friend of the show bill Barnwell formerly of grant land dot com now on ESPN he is gone through the NFL and is ready to hand out his awards for the last season the Tuesday ended on Sunday so bill Barnwell joins us. Governor today at 2 o'clock and of course your phone calls are welcome. 8030550. The number tool free from outside buffalo one. 888552. By fifty or can join us by a Twitter you can weigh in on our Twitter poll which is up right now and up and running as we speak and it deals with the next head coach the bills the coaching searches on we'll talk more about that is the afternoon Mosul on. The coaching searches on however and what Oprah knew what you're looking for in the next head coach kind of coach of the bills he won't like to see. From the next bills head coach is it coaching experience in the NFL you wanna defense of minded coach and offensive minded coach. Pretty really wanna disciplinary right now we got about more than 575 votes and and the majority say 42% say 41% say a disciplinarian. When a disciplinarian as head coach 32% say they want an offensive minded coach. 22% see NFL coaching experience 5% say they want a defense of coach Ed usually. Donald in these situations. You know you kind of over correct and I think we all do it fans do it you over corrects the perception that Rex Ryan was not a disciplinary and so now. Rex is gone and we went over correct NC let's get a disciplinarian let's get somebody who wasn't the last guy. I've seen it happen with all that happened over. Yeah you know for me as far as that's what are poll goals and and my thoughts on a new coach and I actually got some money treated me on this. I'm a guy by the name of George Davidson and he says none of the above how about a post as strong leader and is able to delegate to strong coordinated and for me I have to agree with him more now you know I just wanna got was as strong leader. A guy that really commands the room. And a guy that really has you know he delegates to very strong coaches you know I feel like that's a head coach's job he's he's the CEO of the football team and he's supposed to delegate. Cut rolls through everybody else on the team which includes his coordinators and position coaches and if you can do that the guys that can do that. Are the ones that uses the most successful. Well we'll talk about that we Q we'd like to engage Shia on the telephone 8030550. Or toll free 1888. By fifty to 550 or he can do it by Twitter what are you looking for in the a next head coach Gibbs college note to think about that. We will at this point address and you talk about this through yesterday's news conference that waive visa season wrap up news conference in. Got a couple of thoughts on that we carry that news conference like we had four what 45 seconds that there was over to kind of talk about a little bit and obviously there's a lot of chatter lot of talk about it. The news conference I think I mean my perspective is most fans are I believe more posted in what comes next you know. Well what's what's happened you know as opposed to a you know they don't really I don't know the fans focused too much on what went down a week ago or the last several weeks of the last several months. I guess I would think the most fans there are more interest in what's going to be done. And I thought and we'll get to this to Terry put cooler in an interview with the Associated Press this week when he said I mean quote. I took about it took from a one of them was these were busy bus and their asses and yet last night yet were busy bus an RS's and I think they can accurately describes. Oh what's going on around here you know while I don't know why I understand the reports out there I don't know. And we will we work your penalty but he your wallowing in you know what went wrong wrong with Rex who's to blame who knew what and when they know. Bumper Gore's quote to be Associated Press he says there is no dysfunction everybody's on the same page now Donald and I are in unique positions in a dispute from itself. We are here we are paid by the organization we are here is content providers. And were on the inside and we observe a lot actually a lot you know and talked a lot of people my observation is the football department is not. This optional despite what you might hear or read. My position I gripped this also means that my observations and and my idea opinions. Might be dismissed as being in there are propaganda and I get that that's okay in you can believe that you want to take whatever you want on my observation but I'm just being is not a suspect and Doug Weight these comments. Yesterday kind of guy he did get tripped up on what went down with the dismissal of Rex right is the search in the quote he was not pretty. To the discussion to the decision. Gore electorate of goalie in the Associated Press article. A talks about the the phone call the regular weekly phone call they had with the wrecks and Doug Whaley entered Golar. And it one point Rex asks the talk with a tired of the by himself without. Without that wavy and here's the thing. A bituminous. You appeared more I was around rectal. Over the last a couple of years that more and I mean because of my position here I mean if we take direct ranch or Tuesday. We meet them Fridays at the camera other than football coaches or players here. Probably Europe was around wrecked more than anybody in the building Noble's you know and I do think. I have a unique perspective on this. You know it was in trouble. You know is in trouble for weeks you know he knew his future was in doubt. And last Tuesday before aspiring. He said that he knew that he was headed to a phone conversation. That might result in his being dismissed we set it in the typical Rex won it rank and often ended joking way but he knew what the score was. He knew what was what was at stake. So I kind of doubt put together a scenario how it might go on down the bullet Whaley in wrecks on their. On the Europe but talk and they're talking two days after the Miami game did you know him 27. Talking clearly about the continuing issues with the defense you know the defense of failure 34 points orbit dolphins became management decisions. Ten people on the field in the overtime all of that stuff which is then continuing. You know problem. And then at that point according to Terry Google Rex acts to talk to probably directly. And you can imagine again I have no direct now to this but I have a feeling the pseudo went down Rex that something like look if you're gonna dismiss me. Let's do it now and when you know name Anthony in the interim head coach with Stewart now we can both move on. I think in the back in my mind I'm sure Rex has taken it. I've I'm gonna get fired a money when I get out this week and go out west of the Fiesta Bowl what my sunset and be possible. And I think at that point they mutually agreed that the time to part ways is now that's exactly what the the press releases that there was mutual agreement that the time to part ways. Is now and so. My belief is in this is word dugway is now much yesterday in my belief is but hula and forms Whaley two decision Whaley moves that he was. Willie was asked yesterday well that and questions in Yemeni if user asked why. I want to more than Doug Whaley what the issues were no one was more plugged in what was going right and wrong with this football team and then when he's there every game. And no one talk more. With that Terry the bullet and Doug what I mean they watch every game together home away there on the sidelines pregame news team out there and assignments are on the sidelines outer practice talking every day. You can imagine again my perspective Mike. Might outside perspective would be looked. Look at computers the issue we have there's things go pretty well mr. Google here's things we have we have coaching problems here this is probably part of their ongoing discussion for probably the better part of a couple years. In Hampshire personnel decisions came up and two. We pulled the trigger on that and the draft maybe should have done that and probably talk about officiating decisions. And in what was wrong with the the the entire gamut of the football. Football team I'm sure. Was a regular ongoing two year discussion between Terry who look and don't win no one knew more with the issues were and Doug Weight it was constant dialogue in the game on the phone. Pre game sadly probably talk about everything so to say that. The Doug Whaley was in the loop. On the coaching decision is I think you ridiculous religion now. By saying he wasn't privy to any part of their Rex being fired I believe what Doug Winnie Hussein and he he didn't express it that well but I believe what he's trying to say was. I was dead in and the ultimate conversation. The final phone call Rex entered a move he probably yeah Willie probably could exit better but Whitney is in charge of the football operation. And I believe that that's not dysfunctional here despite what the argument I that's what I believe and I do think they're busting their asses entered the said trying to fix the problem. Now again it's my opinion based in my observations from inside. My conversations with the real decision makers over the weeks and in dates here and you couldn't believe it or not whatever you choose. But that's the way ethic went down and it's. You know the perception that this is it clear perception vs reality issue that's out there. And you know that the tire fire dumpster fires narrative that's out there that's fine you know the bills won't be able to change that until next September when they are playing games for real again. But that's only if they take too much your time I'm gonna lead. I don't know if I was thinking he is letter nasseria. You know I I look at it like. Regardless of you know if he tripped up yesterday and not and he said listen. He found out that Rex is going to be fired and obviously you knew everything that was going on. He found out what the deal was. And it was his job today and move on Mike. Anybody who's in a position. Where you have a boss if your boss fires you. You might go say you know why or your boss. Tells you that somebody else is getting fired by do you go and in acts that person why did he get fired like that's not really position your position is to move on and do what what's your job is do now is to find a new coach that is his stuff find a new coat and give us some talent on this team so that we can move forward. I'm with the fans in this I would really like to do is move forward on how you know what he say yesterday wouldn't Newman said last week like it is what it is. This time to move forward he has to now find a good coach. To move this franchise in the right direction and and that's his job and that's really all that matters at this point move forward and. A you know it was a really I would advise you if you can fight at the Associated Press article. From Terry Pakula and he said a variety of things and in the let me just take a couple of a quotes out of leading branded an interview to via associated press and set a variety of things hum. You said none of us are happy with the season he did a seventeen. A minute interview with the Associated Press he said. He made it what he called an executive decision to fire Rex Ryan during his weekly conference call. But Melissa Ryan asked to speak to the owner privately the Melissa grind and directly asked him about his future beyond the season. There's an interesting article by Jenny grant Haas who is close to Rex Ryan and and somewhat close to the scene from the MM QB website into talks about the Tyrod Taylor decision how Rex. Was opposed to that I know that to be affecting. And that have to be part of it is well you know like we're gonna play we're not gonna play Tyrod Taylor institutes this week while I got a problem with that I mean imagine that's kind of the the discussion away went down Jenny Brett that's. Writes about that and MM QB. Or Ryan recommended Linda take over as interim coach had final game a quote from monetary equivalent quote waving at input on the basis of conversations throughout the years. Hum. And did Doug ever say are we fired a coach or we keep her coach we never had that conversation. I took it upon myself to tell Rex on the basis of conversations about the game. And the aftermath of certain games that take things aren't going well but. I don't there's a lot to take away from the Associated Press article. Including you know. Turned to the scene there is no dysfunction everybody's on the same page we're busy busing irises. And endless and the only way that they can really put all the stuff the bid is window walk up the stage yesterday. Tom hagel calling coaches it's time to go around everybody up that you want it if you like that's all he can do it you. The press conference is over now malice comic who do you job I your job is defined as a coach. Figure out the whole quarterback situation and give us the talent on this team to win games and and that's what Terry is going that's what Doug is don't mess with him onus is bill. That's what their job is due now and in my custom before his time and now move forward regardless of what happened yes. Let's open up the phone lines get thoughts from new what are you looking for in the next a Buffalo Bills head coach any thoughts on any lingering thoughts on. Yesterday's news conference in what you got out yesterday's news capturing what a lot of discussion. And if at all about the next it coach really. It was I mean it was all me there was let's discuss about writing it was all about with like one question about tyra and a remember our Twitter poll yesterday we said what are you looking to hear from. Yes we have rectal and now he may be it militia has apparently that's what they did that line of questioning was. We goldmans but whenever I mean everybody's got pursuit of their way. All right 8030550. Tool free 1888552. By fifty mark calling from buffalo but it marquis in the year. A lecture here and you'll you're well. Sparkle. Here we're all out here it's eight. All that aren't her. All the voter or whatever. Work in our imports. At iiroc error pop back. They're legal. Eagle. Eagle thirty million or wherever they want to pack a lot. It. Is it. A little bit and look. At all. Year. You. Oh well what happened. That. All. Talk a lot with our expert bought back by. Got I've got. To the net debt. Equity. Report. Wreck. Don't go oh here as we brought. Her. I. Thanks mark appreciate it happy new year to come lap there come the tyrants up as it Christine I. When the news came out last week Wednesday that tyra was back to play against the jets I think I thought I don't know when we'll speak for you don't. I thought that that was clear indication that they're ready to move on but as we move now out six days later and they in maybe not. I that we talked about the coach process here the next coach you would think would have some. Input or at least that's the first question they ask when they. Start talking to these coaching candidates who's gonna be a quarterback what you do with tyra and if they don't hear the answer they want. I don't know I might not take the job if I had about look at it part of Jones or somebody else some unknown quarterback. You know to me right I mean you you you got to think that as a coach put yourself in. If you're head coach and you come in an interview for a franchise you have so many different things going on right now on the franchise it appears. And you don't know who your quarterback is going to be that is the number one position on any football team. In the world you know. You have to have a quarterback and if you don't have a quarterback. It's tough to win games I mean you can have a very strong defense but we don't have that right now you know also right now a coach coming in. It's totally unknown. What he's getting yourself into. And if I if I can't. If you can't tell me who my quarterback is going to be well at least give me the option of going out there and bring in my own guy and you know bring me give me the option of I wanted to ask this kid I wanted to ask Mike you gotta tell me something. You know also for me I think that a coach come in would say OK I can work with tyra can work with this offense. I just need to make the defense strong and we can win games but if you don't had Tyrod in the mix apparently it's it's going to be hard for coast economists say. I wanna go to that organization I want and a. Collier from a change in Rochester and and our our respect and appreciate. Our web at our current acrylic. Or art brought up about it. A book that I have to put turn our. No bubble around. Well I did you hear what I said outlets approachable Bedard a route he I have. New bridge I'd know factored a relief. What are urged right bribes or were there is up though they are really ought. Why. Appreciated. That. Our org are children that brought we. Brought. Tonight's beat. Her. Thank you at the Republican look at that. If the a I I don't think I can accept your insight sources this is factual and and nobody is saying that he and nobody and and Doug probably seen you not privy. It was a mistake yesterday but as I just that I believe he was in all season long on evaluating every aspect of the football department including the coaching staff. It would not surprise me feet made known his displeasure with ten men on the field and timeouts etc. You don't know about the leaks in I sure as hell don't know who's leak in the probably is gonna be agents I would think when it's also and done that week but you'll never know that gets ahead Jay you get a chance now. We know that it can't publish their crew individual who's been silent up prior process. There's been terrible there are prepared to put up hope you can wish they'd better be a personal. They're so what that proper way to court. Art or fruit or do you racial rhetoric certain to leave them out. That loop current a lot of life or a third say very. Amid the sister republic or remove the suit which charged with the earth. Orbit above coach or Republican it. But but I don't think he made the decision I guess that's where we differ I think it was the owners' decision. We disagree that stick 8030550. Toll free 1888550. To 550 RJ caller from Georgia hello argent. Hey guys I am Malone I'm bill samba I kind of random question what is. Liquid gold over typical general manager and then what you guys see we're really doing what you think it's over or does there. That is more power last Howard different. Responsibility I'm just trying to figure out what you and it's. The question arch in Wilmington yesterday we had the same question there are talking a friend of mine who works worked in league now for 25 years or so and we kind of went around the league see which team and as the ultimate hiring and firing control over the coach there's a whole I don't think hum. You know. We go through even my two atom bomb to pick the dolphins coach you think Mike Cagney and pick Todd Bowles or could fire tumbles that we want to open so Belichick to different case he's. He's the coach and general manager and there are different circumstances around the league. But I don't know that too many teams you know where the owner would not jump in Baltimore you don't sixty which obvious to say about that Cleveland from LUS to me what the ideal general manager it's up to exactly what he has he's a scout. He's a football parent evaluate I'm not talking about waving I'm talking about my ideal. For general manager guy you can go to who did games and practices throughout the course of the of the college football season identify talent. Watch that talent project how they might fit in the your team in the into your draft. And and make those decisions on draft day he is also I think the ideal general manager. In charge of the entire football operation. Yes consulting with during in win at least he's now or back to Whaley leading the search for a head coach and believing in Whaley said yesterday. It's gonna be the coolest decision to hire the next it coach put. You know find a coach that fits the pro football outlined the football. Blueprint that he's put together to meet I guess those are general outlines of what I would like to see from the ideal general manager Donald iCloud. I look at it in managers like he says the guy who is this doubt he's a guy who runs the scouting department whether that's pro scouting or how it's doubting you know it's his job to draft the players. It's his job to bring in the right free agents. It's the coach's job to develop those players and put the guys in the right position to win games now I look at this doubt as. Kind of like that Brees beats me in and obviously it is a bridge between the coach and the owner but that's the the the general manager is the person that is talking to be owner probably on a regular basis about what's going on in full operation he's probably that guy that's saying. Listen I don't know if this coast and get the job done you know that day I don't know what that's what though Willie is doing with. You know with Terry of Lincoln but who. But I would think that that's what a normal general managers doing right he's the one that's giving me insight to what's going on in the football operations unless you give it an owner like a Jerry Jones was there every single day at practice at the games. And you know has his own input I think that's what do general manager but for the the biggest after the general manager is to put talent on the team. And and that's it RJ does and it's your question. Although. No absolutely gotten about six well out of the question are. On the so I've from what I understand Whaley has been very pro personnel scout guys present government. Do you think that's why he seemed to value reagents and trades more so than drastic you can get like you have I don't want to relentless play. Aggressive on draft day giving away picks. Or that one player because he has that passed those pro personnel resident I'll. I don't think so from what I know Doug I picky values draft pick you you're referring to the Sammy deal which. You know was the big deal a huge deal to end the dome. I I think my impression is Doug Whaley is it is extremely aggressive maybe too. At the edge of a fault. In in acquiring talent identifying who we want to on the team and and paying a steep price to to get their player and his team whether it's a tray after free agency he's done. You look at the way this past season played out the seven a nineties and played out but I think that that streak free agents who were players and you know. Think about Lorenzo Alexander Zach brown prop yeah you know Brandon Tate comes in and does a great job and in return where he came into what August I believe that. Not a moment Justin Carter comes in becomes a red zone target. That's pretty good general managing thing and I'm not I dominating him for executive of the year but I think he did a pretty good job. In you know signing those free agents out of necessity because guys were hurt stuff was happening. Epic if you look at what he did this year he did a good year of of plugging holes in with a lot of holes on the stand a lot of injuries a lot of guys went down and in key starting roles and so he had the plug those holes and I think he did a good job. Now I will always go back to what I think he can improve upon is developing the players that he dressed up you know when and that's something that I assure people think it is part of it is yet it is it's it's coaching. It's also you know once those players come up for you know contracts. You know of the levels as it out the door now has it's it's on the players and it's on you know the coaches and general managers do. What is that they can do to keep those players in house but it's it's always tough when it comes time when the players on their four year contract. And now they you know they're going for that money and it always comes down to do I wanna stay here in buffalo this somebody else paying me. And if that team somewhere else is paying them in that just looks like I only wanna be in buffalo anymore that's when you see so many guys leave out the door you know because if you're near buffalo and you get an offer from. Less is anyway you get an offer from. Miami you know guys that are from Miami probably wanna go back home to Miami and also there's a lot of different factors but he has to do a better job. But trying to keep those players those core players here and developing those split I think it will go away. Oh. I would think even a guy at the safety position like to dinars here see was what is a very good player in his sleep very does say he made a lot of plays here. I think he's you know he's a guy even the corners on the corners that have gone out the door. I've. Man I I have to go back to. I have to look at the rosters over the years because I hadn't been watching for so long. Those that are names that really took the mind but I I know there's a lot more guys they're not and I know even there's a lot of fans as to talk to this a man. We're like we had somebody call we're like a farm team because. So many guys get out of here angle want to play other places and become stars in the league you know and so if you can just. Do whatever he can do to try to keep as many of the core players here and develop those players I think this team will be a lot better position. Year after year and contain a lot better yet the units in two didn't cause they're from Mike in Niagara Falls Ontario I've liked your here. Yes sir good afternoon gentlemen. I've been over our approach is just by thing I've been a Buffalo Bills bear in my whole life. That's great thanks Mike to unseat two unusual. I've listened to the am radio right when Jack Kemp took last championship. Okay so we'll supremacist. Today I woke up and went to my regular sports. A news in Canada. And of Buffalo's taken over from people and as a joke of the all right now. After that press conference in John I know you defended him but as well you're gonna order I was sinking ship. Our thanks frank pepper Mike appreciate them. Don't lately is. Oh please really is incompetent in his job. And I think he's very the whole family has seen specials or some well. And if you don't do something quickly they're gonna pull out he's just Smart businessman he's ordered it'd take this so long. And you guys plays. You are helping the situation we're having when Ryan was but I don't think Greg but I should hoping to. Beasley definitely I think he gives a proper chance I think these distinct the Rex was being his brother's. He had a good defensive team and follows an end and you concede me guy he is seeing at of route but I did notice that could. Good defensive coach or excuse so put up realism with another team alchemy that median of. Our pit like thanks you've got to let say there I'm gonna go on by the light boat. Before this that ship goes totally under we're back with more ever to talk about Tyrod Taylor when we return but of course re engage with. Callers about the bills that's what we do in 030550 tool free 1888. By fifty to 550 John Murphy show presented by no go from one bills drive on Buffalo Bills radio. Joseph Kennedy who live from one bills drive from our one buffalo Studio One bills drive and a approach the approach towards the training center. Welcome to the show here till three Jabber B Donald jones' we have moved into offseason you're ready for the Nazis. An integrated. We expect that your body. If it's here. And forgot my offers the announcement via a transition. You know it's a transition that's what we're talking about in one of the big decisions for the bills in the off season over the next couple months really is going to be the quarterback decision. Tyrod Taylor to the pick up the contract option or not. An analysis of this in his play has always appreciated especially when it comes from the folks from. Pro football focus not on the analytics web site. Joining us right now on the subway fresh take mine is Sam Munson senior writer for pro football focus that time he says the bill should build around Tyrod Taylor. Not show in the doors and thank you very much for joining us today we appreciate it. You're. You say among other things the bills would be foolish to walk away from Tyrod Taylor Tommy why. Yes I mean. Cornerback Fernando everybody is searching for the next Aaron Rodgers you know that's the guy that's that the prototype that everyone's looking forward these new great. All pro level quarterback. But you're not gonna find them there aren't that many of those guys around and the chance that you stumbling upon one in the next couple of seasons is. Pretty minimal so at some point you have to decide where it is you're prepared to draw the line and today. This guy is good enough to win weakened stop actively searching for quarterback and we can start building around this guy. And trying get something done now rather than just waste time endlessly searching for this new stage you're at the quarterback position and I think. No matter what you do no matter where you put that line I think Tyrod Taylor has got to have. Qualified at this point I can't see anyway. And last year realistically looking for a you know. An all pro level guy you would say that Tyrod Taylor is not acquire qualified capable starter. Now when you when you say that those guys don't come available and we all know they don't come available in your opinion is that because of justice deals that you tools that Aaron Rodgers has or is it because of this these college programs are not released you know an accelerated programs and so these quarterbacks and I coming of. And I think there's a lot of things were going to that the way the game has changed. I mean the college spread to landscape is definitely huge part of it you look at a guy like Jared cop who has. You know most people's unquestioned number one overall. Pick that the best quarterback prospects this time a year ago and he comes in and he's not even close to being ready to play in the NFL right now coming. They've they've thrown a Mac there the last few games of the season he's looked completely locked. And and it's because the translation the transition from that spreads assistance to an NFL one at such a big war. I remember a few years ago. Mike may not lose spewing pre season games in Minnesota Vikings went into the quarterback room the meeting room there. And he was saying that he was blown away because he thought he had a pretty good handle on what are quarterback needed to do. You know pre and post not finish in a couple of seconds. Worth processing time. And he says he was just blown away by how much information those guys are expected to read. React to you process on the fly and every single play. And you know figure out what to do with the ball. And there just aren't that many people in the world can you what you're asking NFL quarterback to do. Successfully and do it at a high level every single play the way guys like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers can do. Tim Johnson joined Agassi is the lead analyst for pro football focus dot com and if you try to figure what the bill should do with Tyrod Taylor we do have almost two seasons worth of analysis imminent 2016. Your analysis based on grades that stands in your analysis based on grapes from watching video. Make a tyrant that you give direct the tenth best overall grade among all quarterbacks I have to say that surprised me based on what we saw here that you. Yes and if this this season that everything I Eric Taylor and it regret that he did he wasn't good these years he was a year ago. But you're still talking about a very good player. And a lot of that is because of his running ability and people tend not to want to credit that. To a quarterback it's almost seen as a weakness that. You know this quarterback how. Pastor run to make plays he's not Macon and through the air eventually that's by the gonna go wrong he's gonna get hurt or if it's just seen is that caps to his play. But. Eric Taylor is the quarterback they can make plays on the run and he uses his athleticism not just to make plays them on the grounds. Positive rushing plays. But he's able to play under pressure because he can move grant because he can escape and he's able still make passing plays under pressure because of those criticism because about Gladys. So I think it's Specter regained the you have to credit but even if you just wanna look at passing grade we still haven't top fifteen years well like. This is you know I'm ranked average guy you know sub standard guys being propped up by rushing this is a good quarterback. To the depression thing entries makes him and you put a lot of weight on that in in in in essence you measured. How quarterbacks respond to pressure by. Plays in which they're pressured verses plays in which they're not tell us south. Tyra stands up in that metric and what that says about is a style of play. Pressure so important in the and a analyst at think about it. Pass rush just in terms of sacks your sack the lot that's occupied if you get a lot of thanks and good. But pressure in and of itself is a big thing. At statistically if you pressure and NFL quarterback is passer rating dropped by about thirty points IQ over thirty point. So that's like turning Tom Brady in to you you know Ryan downhill it's a huge huge dropping in terms of passer rating. And anytime you get pressure whether get homer not just because. I think it's gonna when he pressure quarterback they can throwing completions that can throw interceptions they can fumbled the ball all these connecting. And so when you look at. I quarterbacks reactor I think if you leave big indicator to have good these guys are in terms of being able to play. If you can still play well in the face of pressure you've got a chance and the guy that the parent. Are the guys like Rex Grossman you you know he was only ever dealing with a quote a perfect pocket Rex Grossman will be perfectly fine NFL quarterback. But as soon as you are you missing if you make him adjust in the pocket. I think all the pieces. But over the past two years Tyrod Taylor not only experiences I smaller drop in terms of production is frustrating. Yani dropped by about half. The passer rating the typical NFL quarterback does but he also stays under pressure with a passer rating up in the eighties which isn't far. Below the league average overall so that the guy I think the plays better under pressure that a lot of quarterback active. Now when you looked at Tyrod Taylor and any article you know you stated that they need to build around him now how do you build it around. A guy like Tyrod Taylor and most people would say that he's not a guy that. Lists the talent around him he needs the right pieces around him to be a very good quarterbacks how do you build around him. Well I think they've had they've been unlucky with some injuries you know he's been playing most of this season that Sammy Watkins I be getting him healthy is a big dealer trying. And get some additional weapons in addition the semi line Kentucky Carolina in the long term you know at any quarterback that you believe in. That talented player is gonna be better when you surround him with a couple of really good receivers seemed look at a guy like. Gary current Oakland this indeed get Samari Cooper and Michael Crabtree. Jerry Karr looked a lot better. Obviously they help each other rat not Derek Karr makes those guys look better and they make him look better I think the same thing it's true it. Pirates Haley gave him a few more weapons to play when it and you've got a far better looking quarterback. Announcing the defense need to play better because that's been the main problem this year despite having you know a couple of Britain and defensive minded coaches. Ten months and our guest pro football focus lead analyst who writes that the bill should build around Tyrod Taylor match on the door. And you also referred to the Miami game a couple of weeks ago same as evidence that. Tyrod is much more than a game manager that he can. League team backe has about a lot in his two year stint as starter in buffalo but. Tell me what you see there and Al may be Tyrod in your eyes measures up there's more than just a guy who can manage a game in hand off to John. Course. He's a really interesting. Kind of quarterback because he doesn't make many mistakes is you know he doesn't put the ball harm's way a lot at all the interception numbers show you that but. Also just the number of really heavily negative negatively grade pros we have them as extremely low the life and their quarterback like that guy like Alex missing Kansas City. But most other quarterbacks that that I like that they don't make the big plate diapers you know they don't make Bob place because they're just not taking risks. But Tyrod Taylor makes the big plays as well it's the stuff in the middle that he has trouble you know the more routine stuff for a lot of quarterbacks. I'm is where he's a little bit inaccurate and and not as efficient that you'd like him to be. But by a combination of not making big mistakes. And being able to make some big plays both through the air with his arm and on the ground that a rushing threat. I think lends itself to being able to. Each adjusting game and being able to chase games a little bit more. Been some teams that have a quarterback that you know he's not gonna lose the game for you. But he's gonna really struggle if you try and with the game on his shoulders and and to lead you back from a big deficit. They Sam mud. Despite the reported dysfunction among the bills football apartment I assume the bills that decision makers will. Will be aware of this kind of trend that you talk about the U measured in your grades and but it will come down the money want and I mean eventually and I know you don't do analytics and I'm may need to do analytics on the worth of recorded record or what degrades the equate as far as how much money should be spent but that'll be a big factor here is first. Whether them or whether or not they shall Tyrod Taylor at the door on it. Definitely but I think. It's important that is just the distinct between carry cash money that they're out in the past and salary cap it because. Realistically if your team. I'm looking for the best. Freer franchise. You're making it really matters is the salary cap hit because that's determined war resource you can put into other guys around it. And even this next season including seventeen pirate I was salary cap it is not that big. It's just that they structured the contract in such a way that they have to pay him an absolute suitcase full of money. But even in the Latino if you take 201516. Sorry 1617 and eighteen together. That's three year period if they they keep them on the roster. You would get earned exactly fifteen million dollars I think which is like sixteen point seven million. Per year which. For equality starting quarterback these days is actually not but it's just that the instructions such a way that. What it at 23 and for whatever comes in one season that's causing all the problems. So you know it it just seems like a very badly structured contracts in the but the only problem that that's actually creating is that they have to give the guy a massive truckload of cash and one install. It's cash nightcap and it shouldn't prevent them from building around the right to say exactly that they sent us great stuff we thank you coming on the show today for governments talk about it. Thank thank thank god guys Tim Johnson is the lead NFL analyst for pro football focus in his post is up right now on their website. He says the bill should build around Tyrod Taylor match on the door like to think about it we'll be back to talk about it John Murphy show presented by no go from one bills drive. A Buffalo Bills read. John Murphy GO. We press out here at one bills drive with the gym dues will stand by to join us we're talking about build refrigerators call from mark in New Jersey go ahead mark welcome here on the show. I'd done around here we're going to be so than homer see mutiny I'm sure people wanna have beach also marked the colts. Yet you are kind of the I used to get used to Iwuh beyond. Where he is not a good public speaker is marketed that this information so what. Watch every perk up around the league today tomorrow yesterday with the you know base now saying more. And so ought especially with a coat sparred the only mistake yesterday oak or faction of the cup there. So what two of the charter uncharted miracle that never get labeled as a dysfunctional never get rose to meet one. At a the Medicaid woman abuser kept them vivid diary of the fact the other oh yeah. Built and always call your radio station like it would be marked the patriots. Yeah the one who are just under contract extension to a murderer that they you can check all the boxes coming out of college. Yeah they have been held one press conference bottom and never spoke of in the gas. The owner of the giant but one radio interviews about. Brown never spoke about editor. And let his head coach a political answer questions and soaps but you know what those organizations such. They have a barn trophies. Bit ownership reasons very. Most in league circles you know all works out pretty close with the owner that the book of equal office and in the commission all that stuff. To gloat or you won't hurt they don't have these cause they don't ever been so he's relationships. They are. You know there's new kid on the block the new kid in school under the tomorrow. And yet they mark I got a job but you make it's a good points and I don't disagree that but let me just say this and I want you to weigh in in this too. We're not the press conference game here. Where the football game where and it's not about winning news conference is that it's not and we're talking about the perception that's out there is an earlier caller said you know the bills of elected sack I get that that's a perception. But in essence. Who cares what the perception has worked this is not it it shouldn't be and I don't think it is still. A news conference business got a when the news conference gotta look good no it's a wins and losses business the bills have come up short. Again seventeen consecutive years but this is not about winning names conferences that. I don't think it it should be and if that's what your focuses have bet you know but I don't think that's what this business is all about. When that does go back to what I said earlier in the show you know when he left that states announced on the go do your job because we all know that this next coach is on him and at this coast can't get it done. Then it's gonna be probably his job as well on the line you know also now it's your time to go to a job because now everything is on the line for you we know your spearheading asserts. Go get it done give us a coach give us the right quarterback if it's not going to be tyra. And put talent on this team the win at best analogy if that's not what you can do. And you know will be talking about the same thing next here and you'll probably be out the door. Time now for milestones present about units upstate New York transplant services with. Mike policies wrecking touchdown against the jets Sunday the bills became the second NFL team its second bills too much at stake. To rest for a touchdown in twelve consecutive games. They did it in thirteen in 1980 the longest consecutive games streak in the NFL since San Diego did it for twelve games in 2010 and 2011. Milestones presented by units save lives. 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Safety Joseph Powell and linebacker Max ballots all of whom work on or around the practice squad the last several weeks in quarterback judge Woodruff join the bills quarterback from Liberty University he spent time on the bears' practice squad all of them preserve future signs coaching moves. Well the bills are in the mix now in the league sources the bills are gonna interview. Carolina Panthers defensive coordinator Sean McDermott for the job he's 42 years old. He's here to report several head coaching spots in recent years including. Cleveland and Tampa Bay last year Arizona office of coordinator Harold Goodwin will also interview with the bills. That was confirmed yesterday by GM took we've Sean Payton says. This plan is to definitely be back with a New Orleans Saints he denies the reports that its future in New Orleans is in jeopardy. Jack Del Rio a day after learning that starting veteran member going. 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I mean it's for you at least eight would you agree that your play particularly if it wants its plane to receive it. Second half of the season you became like a force and the Stevenson added weight to my country. You know I mean are they able to get more opportunities is going to honest presidencies and in Iraq and I only know and his defense when you're imposes ultimately you have to make and unfortunately those plays the second half of the season. The take usable in studio that you can join us on the phone lines for the next couple minutes 8030550. Told free from outside buffalo 1888550. To 550 or by Twitter at John Murphy show. A week ago come right around now the news came out that there Rex Ryan had been relieved of his duties mutual agreement between Rex Ryan and Terry Pakula. You were pretty out there on Twitter you were not happy. Talk about them. Way army out of god this course and on the last week and have them I mean of RD in the semi despises us. As professionally of the garb and continue to play and exactly what I did it died. Had I owed it to the guys in the locker room and it in the colleges though hitters knows the culture minister Gordon and put my best foot forward and and I think I believe if you watch a film that's what exactly what I did. You know it's sucks you know. Being targeted by caused their rights guy I mean I came over here to play for race. But that's the nature of the business and you know you never know in this league. How many guys around the locker room because in -- yet to speak to different your teammates felt kind of the same wages I'm. Like it to guys by surprise and you're really happy with. Well I think the biggest thing was there was only one game left so I mean I figure you've reviewed let the codes for and is obviously the men. And then there would have a mile from where I'm from what I've heard it was almost like a mutual thing. I guess he made maybe richest wanted to know if he was gonna defied him he'd rather just doing this loses citizen around notably volatile and you yardage reports you're notified so. I mean I I can understand maybe why he did anyway WiMax if if I'm living defy you guys are you going to do it now but. I said if it did suck you know I was coming back home from Tampa and they don't tell me Gaza earlier I was Garrity on a plan come back to buffalo in by the in the east Texas from our friends and groups and I thought it was joke. And then that's all over two and knows it is it just came and left through. Com how much did that uncertainty and then the quarterback decision play into the performance at the jets less than what you think it was a team mindset going to. I feel the same way they live and says in this job I mean think you're coming out together did professor you have to guard and you have to compete you have to place I don't wanna use as an excuse of Rick's been fired or. We'll have certain amount of days get ready for this game that's less than if you don't believe in excuses. Tom what we put on a federal Sunday there is no excuse for it we had to be admitted to human anatomy innocence ago. Allowing them into the season. Now you're gonna be you know freeagent. I'm an expert there are those your presidency of Vietnam restricted guy we've talked to and so we talked to different guys about. You know what they like to come back in what ways on that decision in coming back. That the coast quarterback like what weighs in at this is. I think it's a combination of everything. Slightly as though we're older vets probably going to be its initiative and I definitely wanna play for a winner. I would definitely to be a party were. You know me and so would we know be called upon to be the leadership you know council type thing but. You know you you got to have a quarterback when honestly I think I'm allowed to a great quarterback and also. With that would head coaching search I think a M Palin has done a great job he's a guy that. You know finally actually got to get his chance to be an interim head coach and hopefully just as obviously got to have a lot of passive. Miles there was a lot of reporters evident actually distill maybe they'll carry the ball once or twice in this league the guys billion by six to two clarity. He's not as boisterous as a lot of the coaches but he has a lot of passion for the game and he's more over style and Jonathan does exactly what this team needs. The jail on Sunday in a much in the game calling game to review with the way up top there it MetLife but. It seemed to mean it was not a good game he obviously. It seemed to be you're one guy and the field was upset them here at we huge on with your apartment at teammates and I felt all right good. I wasn't really dollar demo that more angry at us for what we're doing enough that I felt like as hard as we want to not effort that we put him is no way we should end this isn't like that. So I mean no more dog got us on the did you know some life back dances to the damage. Try to get everybody hyped seem to get some say in but it does not return to Rome for worst game ever played in which the latest. It's one has one of the two lines one thing yeah it was a in. And our leaders. Now you talked about you know the next coach in and what you like this in Kota actually have a political right now. Chose doesn't bring it up but you know it's what do you wanna see from the next bills as coach and options are and if so coats and experienced defensive minded offensive minded. This is you know the disciplinarian but in my opinion I felt like you need two strong leader you know a guy who. Commands a room a guy who knows how to delegate rules to different guys who are strongly he knows how to put a strong team together that's not to like you need. And has a strong team coaches and players on the nose eyes out to put the strongest. You know discuss exactly come. What do you wanna see from. The next coach. Yet it's more like what us got out of leadership I can delegate the other causes that. He is really just one voice I think that's the biggest thing in NFL. The so many different voices got off escorted into the coordinators special teams coordinator. But at the end of the day is on his become one diner by and is being on the same court. So everybody's on the same page near the coast I can actually handled and do that to make sure everything's running smoothly that everybody's. Ought to ducks are in a row and everybody's on the same as a page in recent days. Give us the little things really digits would be miscommunication. You know guys maybe being late. So if we get get a guy here today they can do that thing and help this you know program to go to the next level who's too is the best and spoke to plea for. Move your question. This coach play for world. Right. Yeah how it would have to be at I would say different problem. Applause Kosovo. Problem deadliest and I'll old school guy but he he commanded in that respect from everybody on the team. God has won multiples of both of them at least on the Mexico that. This is it's going to be in Jacksonville. Now you know. Most reports. Reports. Early in his career. It was not play. I clamp it is better and yeah later in his career got started to come around I guess he softened up a little bit is that what do you sense from. That's what I heard too tired and jags lose lose count room I got out of rhythm and every little guys. But item in new York and oh wait no diamond head of us with a lot of guys tell me it's often. He's he's a great got to be around with a guy that he's older guy of course but he has a lot of passing through me always came energy going all right do was giggle let's get this practice started so I have that the below respect for coach Coughlin. These it usable bills' offensive lineman in studio with us as we got to wrap up the season with him. What it is doubts that you're going to be freeagent. What to come what's important to you you've been through this before what's important you would you. You know think about where you might wanna play next and what would you be without a situation which is a situation isn't money that's it that's. It seemed thing is it's a combination a lot of things. Consistency more than anything. And in a program and also the head coach and I mean it's it's it's such decide if whether it's through these hard to live women's league about the quarterback. So that badly that affect him into it as an endowment is there was less from him for them. That decision of course coming up at some point the next few months in the meantime your offseason what you were tell us where your money your thoughts on the I've applied both. And I. One thing about me I know you guys follow them and I like to childless I mean obviously doing offseason. Always have a go to like 45 different countries. You know it's only gotten somewhat that the US has that listening. This job you know buckle up out of the country of course but Obama you know Strickland some some US troops and but a few friends and see see what this great country that we that we live in the off we went to decision. What I plan on going to like the West Coast like two reasons is going all the way up and down from lake went over who was out of the country but who receive. You know this for. A bit down San Diego and his dog. Through the same thing with the East Coast my start like that we're. So. And forget about everything in between. Corporate credit they've come up to have to get away like to get away. And money we hear from me for like we did through the moment the the summit is doing. Room to room round come. Come mr. Reid knew he'd he'd rides he's like in a group of and they ride motorcycles and that's what they do they rise of the for it about do this. He probably got a I don't know when it happens I got into it seriously after he retired. But he talked about being easy on Africanist. The right most that's what I haven't been adored them so it's in my abdomen but it is international destinations this year that are definitely go to London probably go out of there is a couple of the country's it's about being over there and you're just say go back for I would go to South Africa. And exit out of a lot of Colombians now. What is it about South Africa and the so many people when they Africa and finally I'm. And there's so many other beautiful places a beautiful city. Maybe it's just a thereby goes out. What if I about it but that is certainly Obama everybody always goes around him is the country's so be it by William without. Maybe maybe I'll explore some of the parts why Columbia. I'd actually love South America last year I don't know what. Argentina Brazil and of this holiday you know Barbara militant might go to this level Lama at Columbia through. As slowly but surely knock off a lot of the countries. In passport must yeah AZ oh that's on the blood hello this. We do business buyers over a couple of guys from probably got a couple guys. Some girlfriends. Between. Like if that's what I've loved them. One of the things I know is near and dear to your heart your work with the Haitian relief can you talk about that we talked about it. Which you early in the season definitely how to count as long that it it's funny that's admits that acts that we take into Tuesday to see some of the houses money that we don't know that somehow that build some actually some of the families action movement and has some of those houses. So you know meekly flavor that was the real will be take a trip. I think remarks to go to him. Agassi like where are my anyway and see the houses that are build a sustainable houses in Haiti so these films on the ever have to worry about you know. B units are William and Cutler Craig's her can you mean like fifteen different way to win do you find comments and in Austin. Are saying out of the rapid downward that's what I do is plaudits for any problem along those ships now early in off season. You know for lack of the month of February I do well you know regiment have been lead to new England and it was due to get ready. Work out you know bill moaning about prove what is in it. So his margin vessel arguments. And then you know I might think you know week here it edited picture of. All is to go with a lecture frequent flyer. Weaker yeah levels of everything all the way and if what they give it about leave those from. And given the go here or there and then and complex and everything in this world at least that you're going to be 31 next year I'm much more you know about what's. It's funny somebody actually that too evident. This is the best I've actually ever felt after this is an oath of felons from the staff. And I tell as I was like man I can't remember ever feeling of its massive amount of stuff I had this year ever feeling is good after the season. I'm outlets in China is that minimum moments I've got mad here and the Cairo's game and inducted geragos Gaza taking great care immediacy and and I think below them a lot for this season. When you look back at the season's disappointing as it is what we remember besides your regular Tuesday. Appearances on our show. Or some of the high points for you this there's this. Just being able to a solid number one answer this place being able to play we're Colin of them that there. I'll pass edited it to you guys it's I've always been telling them all the guys in the room. So to be able to they were professional like Kyle Williams Lorenzo Alexander of income and they ended. You know with their heart and audit work is just relentless in them even in your non violence so much from them because I've played more years and I have and it was just a pleasant work with those two guys is this is. We love to have you on the show this year hope your back computing and she adds to a disease mayors I don't have got enough I don't if I don't have read this kind of sad that there is always something to a close a settlement of the blessed to be on the would you guys that we every Tuesday. Thanks agent Rick heavier thanks for having me oh lead it cliched usable joining us in studio is the bills. Had their separate ways and of course is a coaching change in the works in yesterday and locker clean out day veteran senator Eric what talked about the process of changing coaches. It's unfortunate. You know that's that's on us as players you know. Coaches affect games but the players and make plays in is. I'll I'll leave all the quotes but was on entry center. We'll show on and Sammy says that well last week but. You know accountability is got to grow and it's on players to make plays in and not. Keep the coaches do for the content account buildings to be your own ritzy island. That seemed to be here at the militant training camp how did things maybe I'm route. It's hard to say you know it's it's little breakdowns it's it's. You know blown assignment and it's. It's it's maybe a lack of preparation here and there but just the consistent week to week. Grind of the season. You know it it didn't appear to words. You know the kind of middle and we had a couple blown games you know I like the Miami game and a few other ones that. Maybe we weren't as sharp mentally as we were at other points here and you're used to big push this big push them. This seems to be a belief that instant wins and next successors. What do you. Feelings towards him and how much confidence you have in him being a potential head coach of this team all time. I'm very excited. If if that's the direction we go bomb a mall for. You know I think he's a great leader he he he will be able to command a franchise he has that ability media's. Kind of unique. Point of view that he played. But he also pretty stern got to be around so he knows utterly and talk to a player but also get a point across like it is what we expect the unit that's not happening. There will be consequences in and I'll always like mom always had a tremendous amount of respect form. And if that's the direction we go home for but. We consider I trust our management to get a guy in. But it you know ultimately it's on us making plays players and I think we got guys around here that may place where you every have time. I'm in the duke for about another month and then proud are enrolled there so we oh. He's been captured bigger cubic. When you look at this team the biggest issue with us and we think not being that it. May in the neck seem to be even this year. Is that where that extra accountability that extra work and extra focus and take his talent. You can beat a lot of teams with talent and room within the next step being. And you play in the patriots are playing the Steelers is that where is the difference yeah it comes on little things you know Tony's also some games in. Yeah its you know to be good teams you've got to play sound for four quarters that we haven't been able to do that against good teams. Eric adults that are talking in the locker room yesterday John Murphy Dow Jones company live from one bills drive geography shall present and local Ericsson it's something that Kyle Williams said. Exactly word for word. To me in the locker room on Sunday in new York and that was about. Anthony Lane he said he has command of the Rome and for a couple of well respected well spoken veterans say that got my attention your ball signature that that was coordinated would think they mean I think. When you mean. Because there's so much talk about player or coach news and disciplinarian. And you really just wanted to guy who when he walks into the wrong and he speaks he is a leader. And everybody pays attention to what that guy's sane and everybody falls in line to what that guy's saying in this the same in any company you know the CEO is the leader of that company. When they walk into that Rome and they're presenting a new product that something like that. Everybody falls in line to what that person's vision is you know amass what commanding role ms. when he walks into the room and you hear so many guys on this team say it. Guys understand. Where he is they know he's a player. But they know how stern he is and me if he's gonna be the guy even for this last week you know they were willing to fall in line to his vision for what the week was whether it was you know we all need to its lesson to whatever the case may be. That's what they wanted to do because he walked in the room and everybody pays attention everybody's gonna follow these things unfortunately. The results on the field right now for an output at its if it did get my attention they oppose any note that the results on the field it. Analysts say. They expected. Because you don't expect the team looked at bat on the field but when it's a meaningless games and there's so much going on. And they pins the quarterback you know it's. It's kind of like. I don't know if I would expect anything else hears of many with a call for so many are they are this go ahead. Asia I don't know we'll get them. Out of just. What the goal of the whole you know the general manager and it does this state at a stretch. And I and I think they'll really it is 2 o'clock now. Beaten. He needs it for remarkable thing absolutely. But if you know builds 34 game that we had mishaps and we turn those into wins. When we talk about eighty. Same thing with the giants they met the oil every couple years Eli looked like no problem every etiquette he wrote at that and but Daniel Kerner all around the political and they'll go win a championship order. Every French go losing issues which at that exact greedy. Win it. The new law so I think all eat you know he's. A little more consistency. Yeah coaching here and done we'll leave you know you feel that you comparable lit. That he wants. With the talent that we had to accentuate the talent that we Arab. I think we should definitely keep. Our program a state that was all a part of the plan in terms that we sure you're in the deal with it when it aren't you need these. Because you know what better out just the payment directly EJ Manuel had it the best quarterback available. And they did so now Tyrod is presenting debated quarterback available as of right now. Be sure that you what are we view many things we would Tyrod chart period out. And move on because it's where only a few plays away per game. Determined that the until a playoff team. Nobody gonna say Miami Dolphins are light years or are there any one else in our did issue. That'll. I'm just trying to wheel a more looks oddly you know things in terms of the overall. Feeling around the hole. Team Obama or bill because I don't think that it will always at all but it a lot whole because all of our did you he's a few changes. Throughout the course of the skiing and rock it was a big game. That may be a deterrent it's Coppola team as well as future guys being. Yeah I think there is some there there also think with the seventeen year playoff drought. It's hard to separate all that frustration all that Hanks from what people fans you included feel right now right. And it and you have to there's nothing that can be done about the last seventeen years we can't not pick here's my thing he named two teams and when he just says. He name dude the giants and you look at the times latches what happened last year Tom Coughlin was fired. Right because they were an average team even though they want to see super bulls even the years that they've won the Super Bowls they were an average team you know their division was is that bad and end up winning the division they got hot at the right time and went on a run once Super Bowl. They have been average for so long they were tired of it you know and so they they fired Tom Coughlin they bring a Mac can do what do they do. They shore up that defense they shore up the defense they draft a receiver. But they shored up their defense and now that team. Is in the playoffs again you know and and a lot better record than had been over the last couple years and he's the same way. You bring in a new coats they sunk a lot of money into defense is trying to shore up the defense if Bryant ten hill is not the guy that can lead us to the Super Bowl. We're gonna make sure our defense can take us through the Super Bowl this year. The one at the you know the biggest issues on this team and everybody saving even though there's so much talk about tyra. The biggest issue was not being able to stop other teams we can't stop of the teams were averaging 25 points a game on offense. We can't stop anybody else was going so what does this team need to do. Shore up the defense if you can shore up the defense and you know that your defense can make plays for you. If you can keep that quarterback around this team will be fine this team will be in the playoffs next year but you have to shore up the defense if not you're gonna have the same thing over and over and over everything we. We're gonna break and we come back we're gonna look back in bills history it was 24 years ago today that the bill states the epic comeback they went against the Houston Oilers. It then reached a point four years ago one of it. Main players in that dramatic comeback is gonna join us next he was the leading rusher for the bills in the game running back Kenny Davis Thurman Thomas left the game with a injury and Kenneth Davis let the ways we're one of the touchdowns in the buffalo comeback. That's coming up next to the witnesses OPEC that the the Jabber B show presented by no vote from one bills drive this is Buffalo Bills tree. That John Murphy show. Correct the show with Jon Murphy show presented by no coach hammer he Donald took W live from one bills drive with a lot talk about today. Including the future direction of the franchise that. Coaching hires you can talk more about the yesterday's news conference if you like. Moment you're gonna be open again in a moment or two but. It was 24 years ago today. But this time. 1:30 in the afternoon eastern time Saturday afternoon January 3 1990 yet to. Bills and Houston Oilers in a lock our playoff game just across the parking about it. Then Ralph Wilson Stadium at about an hour into the game you would think it'd look pretty bleak right it had to look bleak at that time. It was the bills Oilers and the idea. In the in the game that went to overtime eventually been an hour and it had to be Ghassan. You know fourteen to three maybe 21 victory at that point 23 even the the Oilers on top of the bills and that a corset termed. The epic comeback the greatest comeback in NFL history point four years ago today. Bills Wanda winning it in overtime. Joining us on the subway fresh take a line right now guy who played and electrical role in the comeback win as we celebrate that memory. Happy to have former bills running back Kenny Davis on the Lima this caddies John Murphy and Donald Jones revenue abbey here every anniversary of that great day. There're at the bigger gulf offered an over the wonderful days of some very bad. All of now they'll forget and that's what this you talked about here instead of Texans also. Yet our did you wake up today and know that this was the day or did our call out of jog your memory that this. Out my memory and pleasant memory on your right. Cause apps and the members their ritual or the other that's not the best bet not I'll bet you're on the play out. Tried not to do do insured but also softened that you gave back to your great strain that we have here which beta and so I just a bit extra. Something great period there's some that you always remote I'm notre about. They Kenny let's talk about the game for a second Kenny Davis on the line and has played a big role in the comeback came against Oilers 24 years ago today. And Thurman Thomas started a game but had to leave the game he got hurt you were called into a circus right. Yellow column and you know Eliza it's always told you want and sure we all know that you don't think it's and there are. Look at calmness Lisa whenever you have time comp U I was in the futurity. And Hewitt or to be. Yet even before Thurman got hurt you had a pretty good kick off return that set up. Really the only first half points rate is 33 yard kick return telling what Hitler yet. Well what do you look great kick in and a darn good blocker and stuff and sort of first come in Austria Austria pretty caught a lot of bad kick off. I've been always feel comfortable running kicked off back to pick without. What some apparently and I'll go for that any man and a look what happened. Back so you dumped 483 at the in the locker room at halftime and it looks pretty bleak tell me what their locker room was like at halftime of game. I'll go out to squash. It was squaw. But it was and you know Padraig incredible to me about a lock for the so I guess where I want to demand room. And we ghostly it was talking to the plate of all of now you're you're what you're actually. The Netanyahu knows he's in the back to what goes meet with Cuban Dutch beat sought help or hurt that rewards work that these area. You know what. No weak weaker dubious you know always you know just one play one player car and we could dubious and they'll know that we made it out. Now you obviously you'd you went to the bathroom dorms beats. Thurman. And that's if there ever was a starter how do you like. When you know that another guy is the guy had his stay ready when you know when you're just. Returning to aches or you're stand on the Simon how do you stay ready to about the course of the game is about the course of the season. We talk about the Internet business and that gang you can you can be gul in one place. One played the commit great of one play Beckham bush you would destroy your career sort of lesser life. So I always want to be really solve the bailout that are practiced for myself that I always true but not always there's some bail won't get on this big stage. And what I'd do without you this year. And Suharto loyalists. I want I got as he does because I've talked to Thurman about this that one bar face masks that you guys war. That the miners are back in the day or is that something that you guys were back in the days running backs like this on the new term. Did you want to do together I mean what is now. Don't just stop them that we beer that you're just happened when you go away it just out or if he chose to do the nuptials monarch. So that it out of fusion. Augusta I've got a big what I play. Kenny Davis joins us talk about the comeback in 24 years ago today Kenny up. That you talked about argued in here mark speech at halftime and then you come up the second half and frank Reich throws an interception though less than two minutes into it now. Now you're really down right now you're down there at 35 now. You can feel pretty close to a point well opt out then don't think they're thrilled low in one aspect. But I didn't becomes. I'll have enough that it. What secure remote better do them any time about where I'm not actually come back in the game employee almost recorder that would gain. Throughout my career to just normal problems such great running better so. Certain about walls almost all ports out more. Concerned about doing my job. You know I want to make sure that I ran playwright ultimate shark got the right block publisher that was under archer to break after. Could break it it it almost it was that we will stay home. How excited about the game. Well and then of course you know the bills. Got an onside kick and got the ball and and you scored the first buffalo touchdown of the game to make it thirty I ten. At that point you're down 25 points third quarter did you still think I don't know about this were down by 25 here. You know what I'm an adopted at a portal started work about Hartman reports band we work I'm telling you also excited about. Also what about playing at the carrying out what to those airports are where you are you know their emperors club Washington will be come back. I'll so bland every opportunity. To be your own field. In place now and that's what matter most to me so much. As a team now you you scored the first touchdown Eagles 3510. At what point in a game. I know that you know you always say I know we can come back but at some point in the game it's like who like we might really be coming back right where I went with that. What topic you want when we got little archaic. The Dutch know what happened to a computer brick columns Arctic I'd never knew anything about those are your victory. That would to outline on the picnic contractor can cost as ultra. Optional so we'll go to the airport something about a bit of all its own. But something no one stop grossly you don't shy kid you not heard it was pretty obvious but I repeat it off that they don't are cute but we didn't. They're not gonna count wonder if it impaired in one aspect. It looked slow Mo. But everything moved so yeah. Tell you we would just like that was clicking on all cylinders you know it was it was just incredible an onside kick until you've. If it was incredible because we we we just begin to move in mood and mold and moon you know it just about everything begin to jail. A little truck. Of course we know how it ends said Steve Christie with the the game winning field goal in overtime what was the what was that locker room like after that the game winning kick that moved it to the next round of the playoffs. Call me and it it was incredible it was excitement of such an exciting time in my life sherbet colored pandemonium. I think it's what talent they're. Oriented so we're upping this quarter will not think it was a sort of great. Opt toward double open people were the last sometime in life. When you got an opportunity to make up and help them. And and and and and we deal may suffer. I felt that I had never happened full force even the ball to the play offs and it was just it was just a great day it was just great gang. Kenny you are a native of Texas right temple Texas you want to TCU and you said at the outset here today that. As much as we celebrate talk about that came here in western new York and buffalo beat sold talk about the game in Texas even where you. The year based beer talk about their gay rights to this state if talk about the carrying your content completely got a whole lot all for him. Got a whole lot to know what all the players and just watch to gain. Optics company just it just you know assassinated. About the game about its common back in Gloucester and so it's like smuggled into one of those classic blame the people. You'll watch to stay open they always talk about a cover up and they are at term. And have such great quarterback in Warren Moon and everything idiot either in the great evils that they had their. Kate got a lot of luck arcade go I don't know what they also do not think that's where the warmup and people just. Very partial to military the content of their better clarity. OK you're 24 years later to the day still remembering and celebrating. The problem is we need more moments like that years it with a Buffalo Bill right I mean you you follow the team a little bit right we need more Beckham. Not Ali you need more of their current stuff but I think they're that you need more. People their pickup bring them back. All of large box. And go to work every day. I think that's what I think that's where they're not being what it was brought back picked up frail figure burger hole which legendary picked up lunch box. And you work your dates I think that's what it needs more so than anything I think that you know you you you you don't have to. You gotta have their hall that is I don't care if you are etched daughter. Are you shot a thirteen. Whenever you go I mean you won't share. You won't Musharraf think that worked in the coast Miguel was rated very clear. When he's up on that field you need to be principally what he was installed on what the tobacco. Her finger up and they're Soledad. And kind of got away from. Sports. And louder louder and got a which was what opened the younger you know all women worked just audit practice. At the plate what they don't play in this game and I think they're you know they're soft and a bit. Will award them to make sure their arm arm on the small ball gushan nobody nobody on YouTube balk. And knowledge were nurtured on the bubble that alcohol go to work your day. Do you believe that you're an athletic director. At that is that something that you see with the twos and even at the highest level. All this something that option would be cute that our school level operative shop at gulfstream. What our school about you know what competition done here and and tell us what you warrant we knew we want a state championship. We want to stretch shall we who also worked of the church are sure war there was it was very jumped ship well. Iconic figure out what Marco to step in and drought and listen to me talk about a lot of things I don't care got this Burger King. A third on the depth chart you you know replace just aren't what a guy that's first but he may not get all of reps. We're gonna knock her computer and watching your minister here and listen I don't know I think that's what it would've bought their belt and that you got to always terrible always care. It's almost like black culture of life on the blink. Well you're certainly living proof of how that works out in the role you played in the game on the big comeback game is. Evidence of that Kenny we thank you very much for joining us happy new year to you and thanks for sharing some your memories of the great comeback kid. Our heart thank you. I love you buffalo thank you very much. Thanks Kenny Kenny Davis six years with the Buffalo Bills couple years before that with a Green Bay Packers. The leading rusher in buffalo comeback win against the the Houston Oilers 24 years ago today Kenney joined us on the subway fresh take on line. Subway fresh back to talk more moment. John Murphy show from one bills drive on Buffalo Bills rating. WGR. Sports Radio 515 or that John Murphy show. On the back of the showdown Murphy Dow Jones here till 3 o'clock today talking about bill -- season here. I wonder if you bought the bills coaching search what do you think what's the formula it's a it's an interesting question that we should go through we too often around here but what would you like to see in the bills nix that coach it's a topic of our. Twitter poll as we survey the field here we got almost 950 votes in what are you wanna see from the next bills head coach 42% say they want a disciplinarian. 32% say they want an offensive minded coach 20% say. They want someone with. NFL coaching experience and just 6% say they want a defense of coach what do you think it was call 8030550. Tool free 1888. By fifty to 550 cowards on the line duke weigh in on this Howard go ahead you're on the year. I'm retired military guy you know I have waited them in years where on the beat the navy. And I'm just totally. Totally different when you're put the beat navy and then get up mean poppy appear out of my misses this week. They only pay rent it maybe that they beat them up until the thought you know. I'm Olga would win a championship but I can't beat army one. I stayed at my and by the course needed to end all military guys of course in a bill. Probably bet that you guys. Okay. The first ever coached highly doubt that I think even though it will go to an academy roots its head coach in the vote. I'm speaking of military roots Chan Gailey was the military and grown up weapons and I think he was. And he's been that he retire from the New York Jets in the that is just came out today too and apparently to the decide years is the jets offensive coordinator between Dalia. Announcing today that he's out he has. Resigned. Drive where it is offseason here we go all the Buffalo Bills off season builds monetary equivalent shed some light yesterday. On the decision to let Rex Ryan go week ago in an interview with the Associated Press the coolest said that quote none of us are happy with the season. He said he may but he called an executive decision to fire right during his with the conference call with the coach and general manager Doug Whaley and Google also went on to say that Doug Whaley had input on the basis of conversations throughout the year what province work. And that we never had the conversation about whether they're gonna fire. Rex right seventeen minute phone interview with the Associated Press bills owner or publicity he has full confidence in with these ability to turnaround franchise. And ethical listed quote we're busy busting our x.'s office. So bill there and market for for a head coach in Carolina Panthers defense coordinator Sean McDermott will interview for the head coaching vacancy according to reports is going to be for several. Head coaching spots in recent years including Cleveland and Tampa Bay last year McDermott. The only NFL coordinator to oversee tapped in deepens every year from 2012 through 2015 is 42 years of age. Arizona office coordinator Harold Goodwin will also in a room with the bills that confirmed by Doug Whaley yesterday six futures signings announced late yesterday by the bills. A most of them by but the players who were ready around the practice squad. Launched never read Ferguson cornerback Charles gains running back Cedric Neal safety Joseph Powell linebacker Max balance and also quarterback just Woodruff edited the future. Reserved sign. Miami Dolphins continue their season with the post season game at Pittsburgh but. The reports of Miami's Mario Williams not return to the dolphins next year he said two year contract last march and is the sixth highest salary cap number on the team this season but a source tells the Miami Herald that. Our Williams will be wade does a salary it actually does that mean offseason. And the sabres started two game road trip tonight against the Rangers it amnesty in starts at 7 o'clock in you in Europe like to appear in buffalo. WTO or sports radio 550. That's sports update from one bills drive as we continue on with the job repeat show presented by no go talking about the bills and the NFL and joining us right now. On the subway fresh stick out like a long time friend of the show who do great work on the old grant Alando website. Now of course he works for espn.com. Very happy to have bill Barnwell on the subway fresh take I was talk about end of the season awards in the NFL bill Barnwell John Murphy Dow Jones to be an over the spillway appreciated. Are what happened but yeah we're you know we're in a typical January a mode here in though Orchard Park waiting Phillips head coach and you know it goes any. And he takes on their bill and went in the predicament the bills by themselves and. It took it in play. You know whoever the built higher obviously this column there buffalo promised that the you know Cleveland or San Francisco but as a suspect there's so much. In the late communication issue becomes the owner got beaten to the GM Ford makes regular Google ads in speak into a culture. You know Tyrod in the black. You know those positions of reverend back I haven't had a pin that's ever buying but. You want everyone in the organization on board an electric I think to do you empathy sort of the dissension publicly. I just think she wonders you know African American at the same issues are equitably but sadly. You know they are going to be someone who really want your organization popped out is going to be able to enact the kind of change what's going along with the though about. CO works out one of those changes obviously was two. The decision to not let tyra played in the last game against the jets but what are your overall thoughts on that decision. And Tara tell a movement for with this team. Are going to be an I have to admit I I don't understand it but I think Tyrod is an excellent for the bill even given. You know what we're very low expectations coming into this I'm in buffalo and Philly cheese is the liquor they feel like he's got an excellent job and I would say. The contract to build gave it looked a little out of respect I think it was. They they have repeatedly and up front for a deal that actually two million a two year forty without contract basically get much out of it and complex and leverage they have so. I don't think it's a great deal of accustomed to what the alternative you know the park there's even a promising a quarterback on the roster cartilage out of the total mystery. I there's no idea what he's going to be together. You know they don't have pop I traffic to the quarterback there's not a likely path and giving the moment Kirk cousins a terrible is free agency is so. I just you know our our. I understand how what and good luck relate to the cheers I think they should develop alternative. But I'd have to see what the what the better option that's of the with a four. Bill Barnwell ESPN staff writer podcaster host of the bill Barnwell show whose. Written about NFL awards for 2016 you have also posted today I believe bill the NFL coaching vacancies in the pros and cons and give us your take on what the Buffalo Bills have to offer their their next head coach. Well Armenian descent lobbyists they have matchup should not telling anything that are his secret development of the game is great and it's been great over the past couple years but I wonder. How much of that accord what to buy just a very well have to do on the caller Michael who also played well how much of it is this pilot Taylor who. Whether he's worked with the ball himself or he is just that an error at peace threat over water. You know it's holding the back side and let them crashing down on running plays he's treating wittingly and aren't necessarily better what they sort of been mobile. A traditional pocket passers so I ordered that's going to change without Tyrod looked outside and of course certain weakness. And there have been here their after the secondary now at its concern for the pills given that. I probably looked at it quite as good I would say if he wasn't the rookie I a until morsel free agent Cory grant of property will turn 32 very well yeah of course separately dancing like country music is even going to be able to play. Going forward so I think whoever comes and is like have to rebuild that secondary must fly. I think it's more rebuild in the so well at least the linebackers on back to this close. You know read these news they're question marks on. The full defense you know they gave up 3200 yard rushing games this year common in the back in. It was a lot of questions in that as well now when you talk about Stephon Gilmore would have thought that was the argument would fall. I mean you know it it's. Deutsche state court gonna cornerbacks it's so typical backing because a of course our pressure packed but that's skiing impacts that we could Eleanor all of it going Carlo at least our side all the things. Is the passion for me it really you know. But of course go to look at what things but at quarterback by any means is he has the keynote killed a federally debate. Eight upper Echelon you know number one true guy. Thumping about so you know I think with a built they're gonna ask themselves if he doesn't afraid to get. I can Arctic and Arctic is it's twelve million dollars a year or so. Actually better than what you those resources I eighty I to people thought that you know I I think it's going to be tough for them to replace him but. I don't know what I wanna commit a twenty someone who need Affleck it's mostly been. Number one quarterback. It goes you look at those coaching vacancies San Francisco San Diego. The rams the bills some. Where else Jacksonville is open right now Denver how how would you rank him I mean who do you think would have the most attractive. A chance for the head coach commitment and turn it around do you think or at least get a home into the play. Patrick Edwards you know I was surprised that that job to be open and of course expert help treat and took Gary Kubiak. And you know they're Europe live from the super oval test a pilot out then that's great infrastructure kind of let that an excellent job terms. Mentoring a lot are rendering the salary cap they're bent Burke. They do a lot of things right and you would figure that there's going to be very top can it is very good Michael anywhere Oakland Jerry young and very count that. They're not going anywhere maybe think about double checks will be a little easier terms having it in major condition deliberate. Bottom part of the defense is so good and I think that. If you could only be upgraded quarterback with the guy to go all the cheers of technicolor web accent there but I think that the actual landing point Tony well the moment schematic issues maybe got. Popular quarterback Kirk a coat with the flow here at the democratic system I think outshot and makes homicide and that they want the same sort zone blocking scheme. And it profitability in Denver under Gary Kubiak maybe look at the opposite one bit I think but you could be its global contender so I think that. You know as far as the high ceiling goes I think yes go Broncos. The one guy you pointed out there Tony Romo. How much money is he gonna command and I can understand. You know he's put up a lot of yards in this league he's. You know put up a lot of points and won a lot of games in this league but at the end of today. He is Tony Romo we know that what he does in the playoffs. And you know he gets injured a lot so how much money is he gonna comment. Kept up I mean I you know as far as through the playoff at the settlement channeling right where the guy who. You know made the Super Bowl once and think what are twice that they've been no we want is a guy who could it would in the playoffs when it when it really mattered. Until he did you know until his late thirties when he got parts are cut like Robin one so I'd be skeptical saying he's gonna be back up plan for the people in the right spot because it was a purple. The theaters are much bigger concern and they got. It's likely tablet cut him credit capital which for years trying to create complex is that they do that. You know I could be a pretty good about market where I think Stanford team that you know it would be creature but a lot of coaching coaching million dollars you'd keep them away about. You know played like that jet or are people with a couple of perhaps I ought not much money out. I think that. Not perfect nobody would know in the double for free that are going to be perfect. You know we we couldn't get it back in panic. A few years ago you keep the heat stroke play applicable but he struggled. But that type of play out he wasn't. You know he happened concerned he wasn't a 100% but he played pretty clear that we're in simple all look back it up I would be. You know it's not perfect but I think he's one of the best players at the freighter market quarterback. Pop pop artists and paid in the market and so. Climate climate bill Barnwell ESPN's staff writer producer podcaster who writes about the NFL you've written who should win NFL awards for 2016. That was posted yesterday it espn.com. And I was intrigued by you're you're nominees for offensive player of the year. And most valuable player you kind of separate about his two most of them quarterback's right other than Ezekiel Elliott and David Johnson everybody else's quarterback. Yeah I mean just you know quarterbacks are prohibited I would say is that that marked the way to put it that you know the reality is that it is it's so difficult to. You know for someone to really top quarterback in terms of value to which immediately have a guy who really step up in the pac. You know that he Drew Peterson Peterson goes across apple guy and just get stopped a lot of apple Christian Ponder quarterback and and you know made it playoff Serb. You know you're shot out Sanders your priest holds back in the day about got of course being. We look different characters but I couldn't seek what is keeping a couple of but just like a quarterback to battery and a bunch of really helped quarterback this year. You know one of them and out of they had this debate late last week about Derek Carr who I would submit bill and always in your consideration here but. When you look at what he did for the raiders and what they are unlikely to do now with him out of the lineup. I almost think he is the textbook definition of the most valuable player to his team what do you think. I meant that you know we're certainly seeing the impact and being armed over the past week at that level what happened. You know to play out of there without without articulate our car until maybe the Super Bowl they make about our butt out. Yeah I mean if patients soak it leading game I think that goes a long way in determining his value. I just he's back up the numbers and I mean he's not. In the same ballpark because the numbers like the question of a how much he got the numbers sort of how much devalue that anybody in taking place like thank. The other articulate about Kubiak and he orbit on the Skype and argued that you know it's about actually impact it is such a pathetic guy is gonna be so good urged reporters before of course but pretty close. I bet that an it guy's going to be pretty mediocre mediocre but it's gonna be decent first of course a block in the fourth quarter but. Question so public and with the critically important to avert a quarterback but he fell in the fourth quarter when against the Carolina so. I think about her preferential yeah I would I let other guidance but he better over the course that I can't I can certainly make a strong case with our car. It has settled on Matt Bryant is your the most valuable player for the falcons right. Yet uncommitted and I act like he's. He's played incredible of late about numbers football. I haven't independently that you don't believe in years past they allegedly been listening into it then what about 2% capabilities of skewed about the. That I'm the opportunity they've been reworked it in the ball to other secret to their running game. Either but it might be mature group that helped a lot but he's put the toughest schedule up on track to pass button to turn to because the technology that's. And I think that goes a long way for me you know what I below the tipping point and I'm person Aaron Rodgers our top rated. Now you you'd you know last week John and I talked about this. And I set a different person by. I think right now with the way the Packers look I have to go and Rodgers as the MVP and just when you look at where they were six weeks ago. You know and and how well he's played. Over these these last six weeks in the throws that he makes and just. How that he really looks up to him the things he's able to do on the field. I just have to take him as the MVP I don't think that team would be. Where they are right now without there. That they don't aggregate. Yeah I mean that's definitely better and and I think that that's a very defensible picked I think I would say that ran the numbers for the X expense between. Matt Ryan their rocket stop at a 51 packages to about technique the more the debate struggled early in the food and of course. Went up and running there very ballot Aaron Rodgers you know he's been pretty much the best running back for a good check it is let alone the best quarterback but. The numbers were Ryan are over the last six into premature debacle and that they you know. We'll play it super high level rock typical what 121 passer rating which is incredible bad after reading up about baptists are you know the argument. I had the 120 point it at peace you know there really are. ER practice and playing better but is in the same ballpark and any look at what is an over the first ten games. I think lion but significantly that laughter I think I think they could got a bit about our largest Bible Belt the opposite the post about Iraq. One lesson build these just to be clear you're NFL awards at these are not your predictions on how it's gonna the votes gonna come out right this is your. Actual evaluation and observation of what you've seen that you're probably right. This was my own personal feelings I would say that I most likely gonna be wrong I think I I think rocket over personally and I think I you know and it I'll Wear it like. I'm an epic in appeal for our writers which apparently it's a great hit even credible is playing a little football but I think that it is my feeling that they can't just by the slightest bit it Ryan. Over ruptures and over country. The bill thanks is it Pataki thank you very much. Bill are well ESPN staff writer from my ESPN formally greatly and joining us. On the subway fresh stick out like subway eat fresh he can justify it's pretty good read who can win at a towards his guide and and the coaching vacancy thing is interesting to. I think it's an XT post from the bar while on ESPN. Dot com. All right well I'll locker clean out day which yesterday here at one bills drive bills that players. Answering questions of the biggest questions concerned veteran quarterback. Stephon Gilmore as he moves into the free agency. Part in March in Stephon Gilmore was asked about his future and said it's pretty uncertain where he would wind up next year. I don't know I'm just glad. And prepare for whatever you know since. They got a job to do it knows who it is tired do you know if you're. Representatives in the team had discussed anything since training camp. They have and so you see Conan your future is that would you like to stay here. I like to live. You know they've been aim you know the season I've made so was he was glad that the coach. And that's coming in effect your decision making process. I mean. Kia from appreciated those good. And haven't been that to treat her coach that's some. Five BC's. So it's kind of life. Is it vacant seat to incriminate so. Hopefully it's somebody that can change. For a guy that's been in the league only when vaccine. Five different defensive coordinators have. Typical frustrating whatever word you when he uses as the event. This is frustrating. Look at everybody sees different thing. He's got to find a way to be successful in whatever system they have. As far as soon as plea in the system for a long time. On this Sunday roommate will please let got to learn how to dead. But this knows he's not that glad feeling games. Just in terms of where he feels. Things are headed but the bills and others Keith. We don't know to be and is being. I don't think but things that did we. Folks. Pizza there. So New Zealand news some they could with protesting would you be OK with that. Your relatives read this there are some of them say they got a big season my little thing. That happens it happens it's. Right and today. Mean. I'm hoping the letter and so I don't want it. Obviously it's the body working together this season. And after in the league and famous last game but. Seem like she's got stronger as it went on to you feel event in and you feel like you've put yourself in the position to be one of those you know top laptop yeah. I think yeah for me I don't feel speeds or self. A flag admitted to see them get alone and it's that you wanted to be the key you've been embedded. In peace keep the U you know no good estado. Now happening you've been abetting people who use. I've been in only five years targeting youth vote. Improvements. I feel personally. Hannity it's not how you are free to. There what are. News that we see. This for a variety of diets and he had some needs. It's complicated. And sprayed it whatever happens and it's at for the best meets. Us on the fourth. Stephon Gilmore speaking in the -- from a locker clean out did yesterday John Murphy dial tone from one bills drive oil a lot of uncertainty therein I don't know what the bill should you don't elect certainly if it's mean pulling the trigger is that I would not them. I would not overpay for Stephon Gilmore and always a good player I don't think he's a great players never. And with the probable for whatever that's worth so I could be careful of how well financially involved him yet we step on. Yeah and I definitely see your reluctance seats in the 21 overpay form and I don't want them overpaid for anybody. You know mom at the same time I think if you lose and and you look at what you end up having on the roster. It's it's tough to go into the season and they see you know the next year now they can go out and bring it free agents there are draft a corner after corner with me you're talking about you know Ronald. He wants he wants sells a lot of promise that he can be a good corner in this league. And then another repeat you know and and what can you expect out of another rookie. So. That's this tough to me you're talking about really rebuilding the back in the that defense facet to bear wins decides that he wants to retire you know that that is a lot of moving parts on the back committee's defense. And I just don't know I think justified do more to be you know one of those. Building blocks and understand you know he's missed a lot of tackles this year he's shown really date doesn't. Not necessarily wanna make tackles he's not that guy that wants to dive in the thin and may tackles and a regular basis. But I do think he's that good corner in this league he can cover and I don't know if you wanna see decked out walk out the door. 8030550. The number toll free 1888550. To 515 or by a Twitter our Twitter Paul is up as we kind of look ahead as to what type a coach who might wanna see the Buffalo Bills bring on. What are you wanna see from the next bills head coach or Twitter poll with 980 votes in 42% are looking for a disciplinarian. 31% say they want an offensive minded coach 21% say the somebody with NFL coaching experience and 6% say it deepened to minded coach Ed in Lancaster has some thoughts on this go ahead and welcome to the show you're on the year. I am out and I'll do a lot of the diet looking great turnout. Kate grand white finished second with it. But that was real real good. You know it did it brings back memories like from the old guys big guys. It really took a lot of pride in putting on the uniform. Of does double fault bill. You know all the way actually and I know what you guys are tired of listen everybody just happened happened about bad things. In all but nobody takes the blame from the organization. In which the players that necessarily in this order. Players the coaches the idea on why isn't somebody get stepped up to the forefront and just say it looked. I mean biking I watched the whole the whole segment with. We're lately. Okay and she just I mean it was what it was and Jerry's sold and I have read the column I read it everyday injuries element got a great idea. Let me stop you for a second and second sentence I'm looking at the transcript from yesterday Doug Whaley says I'll say this much it starts with me I have to do a better job. It. Does it take responsibility. What it would keep both for the moment. Okay up proper rest but how about the rest of that okay how much responsibilities. It would take throughout the rest of the year can he claim and are. Bad it is and his deal I mean like everybody says in this this is all reiteration. Everybody says it's okay fine. You know it is. I don't know what you mean Ed Gillespie when he talked about. He's like you know he's just didn't no denying that it's his responsibility. Ed I will repeat Doug Whaley quote I'll say this much it starts with me I have to do a better job. Okayed by globe well well I beat god bless someone hope he does. Well he's not denying he's. Is that not accepting responsibility. Yeah you're right yeah I hear here you know she hoped it would then I have no problem with debt. You know and it's it's it's like everybody you know he'll pull back to the coach deal. You know everybody's talking about you know Marv Levy they're talking about frank light condition as I mean do you think that's still quite way to travel. Oh. Well now I do I mean date it is or guys like. Gruden I I've read the articles about gluten okay group I don't think it's really interest rates I don't know about guys like Jack still real. It took time Ed do you have wrote a summary a wrap up point because I'm credit. Give your time here but we don't need you know to walker with a waterfront here to tell me what your point. Now that's okay that's why I appreciate it. Okay thanks and I think we're which you don't you know I'm trying to at the cut people off I don't I don't need a summary of what's been discussed that aren't doing it. I don't know. Jeff and a few hello Geoff welcome. What do you left and that's. What. The Olympics doctor via solved this week. Usually the Buffalo Bills we are only happens doctor here at all. Why don't always well what bills in his wake up one day and not go to woodgate. One I ensure mr. gore. Say you know what it's diaper change because in 1966%. Of the bills at a rock you're. And that Iraq I would only 3000. People and stuck up 40000. Members that you know the game. The game mostly Europe 1966. Or 67 because that was when joke however it was too cold. And nobody. Brought close and a wider road along the people spoke and then they got rid of jokes are. And brought in Jon Rauch and things got worse. But the people spoke up. It's about time that these people wake up these bills saying because of those games are just a general or the select start video itself. We had a laughing stock of the NFL. Says you and you can say that I appreciate that I hear that I would submit that it's 79 there are probably 21 teams that are worse off than the Buffalo Bills but. That's OK and me my guys. Everybody's records were. A lot of teams records Warner similar this year now I understand everything happened over the last week. You know with the foreign brits in the in the press conference last week in the press conference yesterday. But Doug Williams got move forward so. For fans that have that in their mind the need to Fargo will be he's not getting fired up right now he's going to be the guy so do is understand. Eight he it's his job now to find a coach and like I said earlier if he does not find the right guy. And it doesn't work out his job will probably be on the line as well because this is now. His team if the weather before it's now his team you know the coach the players on the field everything is has his hand prints on. You know also. His fate lives and dies with this next coach in the quarterback situation and all that stuff that's going on right now but he's going to be here. So don't expect them afire. We'll break welcome back more great phone calls returned John Murphy show presented by no go from. One bills drive on Buffalo Bills radio. Welcome back a couple of people on Twitter corrected mean it was not that John Russert was Harvey Johnson was essentially forced him out after. A joke on you was but that when the bills are Johnson's. Those went 112 ones that did either and then it was jump routes and that in either in doubt you can lightly like when you talk about. And it was only in fifty years ago ward where we're human who is on there aren't going to hurt. You know I was young kid I remember that and remember those were dark days I darker days than now I would absolutely. When you go on 112 and one. And two in fourteen in the mid eighties much worse in seven and much much worse. It is you know like. Dark dark and I did it's it's almost seventeen years in play so that's the prime fans his Santos is dark days in seventy years we haven't been in of wells and then. We did. The press conference we have lastly can we get the programs we had yesterday we have the national media talking about is the way they do these of the dark is not the darkest day the Cleveland area now and equity rhetoric it its neighbors after your team that it's a perceptions and. I've outlined this at the top of the show the perception it's out there is horrible the bills look horrible no question about it look horrible but that's perception. I go back to what Terri Douglas at you know and he said it's not dysfunctional when he said. They are busting their passes that fix the problem. I believe that it's not this functional in the football department the perception is it is. I don't think it is I don't think anybody is wallowing in what went wrong with Rex and who knew what it in the new. Doesn't really matter it it is a week old news and it's yesterday's news and I don't think as elected he would moving forward but nine European movement forward. With a need to. Then you play. Well. I have to answer that like now. May have tyra coach burns hired approachable that thing together yet to decide at quarterback and then they have to add pieces to the defense I think there are. But seven in nineteen I think they're pretty much in the at green 789. Win team. The needs a couple more pieces on defense again in the playoffs but certainly need a coach to pull together whether it's infinitely and somebody else. It's certainly you need to decide your quarterback is I would prefer to see. I wouldn't right now OC Tyrod Taylor is the best option but maybe there's somebody else editor. That is the question. What do you think I am on the same I'm the same way I like the seeds aren't so on this roster I think when you looked out there. Realistically. There's nobody out this edited it is you know everybody's gonna throw out Tony Romo we were just talking about Tony Romo in the other room I don't think that. Tony Romo will want to come here. I just don't think he would probably prefer to go to a place like timbers something he feels. He has a better chance on that roster to win the Super Bowl right now. And to be honest I don't trust him in lasting a full season. I don't think you'd there isn't over and under all week eight he probably under. As far as when he'd he'd injured you know before we hate and that's probably a battle that invades the Susie it's. I think that. Tyrod Taylor is the guy who gave you the best option. To win games that he has to improved passing the ball we know that they need to. As defense they need at talent on the defense. They need to shore that up and they need to add receivers. That this company really need to do they have to at receivers. And to be quite frankly the need in the kicker. You needed that you can count on in key situations to make the case. And and you'd have to pull our act together first on coat. Here is on nick in DC don't go ahead nick you're on the air. Are you there and it. We're happy new. Yeah how it got one guy. Usually a bit at but I I'm what should they are actually at ticket should compel actually area which caught it a heck of a lot of white. And I am very disappointed at what's going on. I thought I don't think the whole coaching staff should be. Let's go back at that I do not think they should. Not consider. That as cynical and that shape. Greenhouse outbreak at bat but he enter into my idea of the perfect cooking and it would be frank Reich. And porch. And I know they worked together in Philadelphia and I think able to work together very well here. And I know vote would be very well respected air I would be very well by the band. Not that candidate you support that they do add the actual and MI and it added that spike and secondly I am very disappointed in the proposal. One reason. They're wonderful people I expect good people and those. I can't count they've got great data canal side and not take it away from them in that area but what I say as pay. Pure gold for the local media. At peace stop. And oh yes they get caught your radio station I would try to understand but you know there's other it people that would like to talk to them in local area. And I believe from what I understand it's very difficult. But that it may get through it. Whatever. What what we're or whatever because. Look well at a quarterback joy and Raymond. It's let's deal with you first issue earlier last issue before we move on. When no Rex was dismissed a week ago there was a statement from the owner wasn't like the very short statement and did you know seventeen minute phone interview with the Associated Press last night portrait of cooler. And the radio Whitner and he knows so much talk to him hoping it was technically doctorate but. Whatever you think that should talk more that your prerogative if they want you know open on national but I don't know old. How that changes. Anything that's going on here. You know this is nada. An up or not indicted democratic here to answer charges Norse nobody should feel that way I think it's a football. The finish 79. That fire the coach that has talked about it a couple of times in a public forum and Doug Whaley yesterday put himself out there for forty minutes is the chief football decision maker and answered a lot of questions about patent. Handled it well in some respects me Mina is it in as well in other respects but. What we talk about when you know public gallery of the of the owners and general manager. I don't I don't care. I really don't care who it who says what I care about September real gains all this is just talk in noise. Until they start playing with them a lot of talk in its Arab. How many months do you see anything non yeah. That meaning ones that in the long time to talk about the talked about that in Belgium audience. Wouldn't that this is a coasters publicity. I had Steve. All up or eight IE. Every Saturday. But prince. At that typical but hey Andy I called it would want to come here given. How old were over the ordered. He went yesterday it was coincidental. That different year. But stability on it so. Well. The idea that. Operated under under the herbal bed and deadbeat big bat ball well. Yeah that like. It but it belly. It was again as you eluded bill. Double back away it was portrayed out there. Yesterday it cut. Didn't get a lot of bait. Okay well I think Edward. That's the perception that's out there understand that my belief is you can disagree you can question my credentials you can question my idea parentage. You can question who sent my paycheck my belief is it is not nearly as dysfunctional as it is is being perceived right now but again at that it is. Now if anything it's. Not kept. Here is Robert then all then go ahead Robert. Well good afternoon or happy new year to book you gentlemen thank you rocker. I appreciate appreciate the work that you guys do what that is very and I thought I get at this duty pay for the college it's taken here. What an artist. Opponents and I killer puts us in the regular judicial Adidas. And yeah. Right that's security lining the parking lot. I. But I wanted to have a different take on on Doug where in our go to McCain's. And I think he's done an amazing job. Bring it challenge here in the and that is you know people that work. I you know I go I go to the game and I see. He brings Taliban here. In the middle of the week. And it seems like it's particularly game. They're making big plays racquet to name a couple. Rambo when he was here. Marquis gray. It a bit reluctant brought a keynote talent I think if you look at the roster very talented roster. And advocate Eric Wedge that we're not far away I believe that's part of this beat the talent standpoint. And so I think that that broke Whaley has done its job now. Naturally when you get. But a key franchises than losing the longer we have people get frustrated. They say out kinda thing and quite frankly Soviet people that they constraint is almost like a alleged mob mentality which makes note that. But on another point I think is that this whole thing start to go down hill when da won't quit and then they decided to bring. Rex Ryan and which I would never never work ethic that I think anybody could do a better job. Coaching defense and Jim Schwartz and I think what they let that part go. Well look obviously right now I'm excited what did you like about it really wanted to China that they ticket you know look at that Doug Whaley situation for their respective. You know you Vietnam Austria electric Crennel I don't think that's quite right. Either. Like I understand that the fans. And massive necessity we go off walked in tune into office. At Tuesday menaces. Idea people pay a lot of money come to games this season tickets analysts. But man you would think that a guy committed a crime that there would be the yes like you are really trying to crucify. Him data NASA consistent in the lab at a press conference. Always look at this like I just as I outplayed. And understand that it's at the into the Davis is football. It is full all like it's not. It does not know we have so many fans that call land. And the agency crazy things through with people that tweet us and you would think that they actually played for the team or they're being paid by the bills this like dude is it that series is not dancers there and look him work. You know we're on the front lines of this but. I want people to care about and what my wire connection idol you know and and it's gonna be rough because there's so much action. So much feeling about the disappointment of the season seven nines as such as it is but you want people to hear you want them to be emotional about it but that's. Keep a pretty Smart now. Seven. And yet. When you look at this thing go to the big picture we are seminars so. Are we that far away no at the same time you have a lot of moving parts right now you gotta throughout the coaching throughout the Corretja. Figure out free agency in the draft the right way. At the end of the day you got to get the right coach in here than that puts the right culture and please if you can get the right culture inside the locker room nothing else matters nothing that the GM says in a press conference nothing that the owners will stay in a press conference. None of that stuff matters if you find the right coach you have the quarterback. They put the right culture in the locker room that's all that matters in those guys go out there me please on the field. That's all that matters the guys on the field this year did not make cleats. That's what it comes down to date did not make the plays that they needed to make it you can go look at so many plays throughout every single game all the way back to Baltimore game. The first game of the season was like if you just made that play when you win that game you know so you gotta have the right Coulter. You gotta have the right guys that have the right mentality I know why I'm gonna make this place. We need somebody step up and make a big plate we didn't have that this year. The COLT is the one that instills that Coulter among the team so they got to find the right culture and everything else to this call from Jerry in Clarence go ahead Jerry. I John up next segment called. I'm Monrovia football expert but it just seems that the local media it's really out to look at history that the physical us. And Doug Whaley. I'm almost embarrassed by by the local television coverage. It is it seemed like at what else that it is this McCain and I think they're holding. Too many people to responsible for. The actions of what what course on the and the football game I. Apps and ads like salmon fierce by the fact that stuff of local local media coverage. Just like pictured here and. I know well you know I think like I understand people have to Dobson and those guys are doing their jobs that can't. I can't fault them they're gonna do their jobs the best way they feel like. The they need to do their jobs. And you know it is Doug Willie's job he is the GM. It is his job to go out there in front of the media and answer questions just by way of the next take hostess like Indian and it's his job he was the interim. And while there and answer questions that is part of your job description thought the novel fault in the other. Media personalities are you know years and I don't signal and watch any TV news yesterday in. And very rarely read the and newspaper coverage of the Grammy Awards and and I know what people say on Twitter to us. Always preached. That and that it's it's it's tough to it really is like I I did it. Understand their fans are upset because spent seventeen years since we've been through the clothes men in and I understand your your passionate about your team. I like you want people to care about it and everything. But this is this is a game it is Alex and woe is me c'mon it's it's a game and I'm I'm still an. But like I and the people understand that this is that it's not like they are crucified people. For again. It is it's a game might just move forward more like what happened yesterday what happened last week that this season. It happened now bull forward find a new coach get the quarterback. Under control. Find the pieces to do it through the rest of the team and win in all this stuff will be silence I gotta talk down about the let's take a break and come back and wrap things up to John Murphy show presented by no go from. What bills practices Buffalo Bills radio. But welcome back to John Murphy show presented by no go and it's time for now what do we learn presented by advanced alarm writing Western New York homes and businesses with the finest and security and home theater they preferred alarm and home theater provider of the Buffalo Bills on the show today Sam months and joined us from pro football focus he's an NFL lead writer. Any is an interesting post analyzing Tyrod Taylor through the prism of analytics and and the pro football focus great. Semi absences to build should try to build around Tyrod Taylor and that would do is send him to occur. Eric Taylor is a quarterback that can make plays on the run. And he uses his athleticism and not just to make plays and on the ground. Positive rushing plays. But he's able to play under pressure because he can move ran because he can escape and he's able still make passing plays under pressure because those athleticism because of athleticism. So I think it's an aspect to regain the you have to credit but even if you just wanna look at passing grade we still haven't top fifteen years well like. This is you know rank average guy you know sub standard guys being propped up by rushing this is a good quarterback. Sam Dotson with some interesting takes on Tyrod Taylor what the bills. Future course should be with their quarterback it's worth the port to read a pro football focus that now. The big doable join us a little bit earlier today the bills' defense alignment as he heads into. Most likely in the free agency invisible talked about the bills head coaching change in what his thoughts were on Rex writes dismissal last week. I've gotten this question on the last week and had. I mean of RD in the semi discloses that as professionally of the garb and continue to play and that's exactly what I did and I. I had I owed it to the guys in the locker room and it in the code that was his most of coach in this book and put my best foot forward. And I think I believe if you watch a film that's what is that we would do that. You know it sucks you know me and I guess thereby causing their rights and I came over here to play for Rex. But that's the nature of the business. You know you never know in this league. 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