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Mike shield and a Bulldog. Forget it I got tweet. That the bills are considering for office coordinator of the dead from a Malcolm in the Middle. It's actually Bryan Cranston rank pretty famous actor I don't. Right that's I don't know if that's true but I did this tweet this it's better you see the dead from noncommittal when a guy who manufactured enough. Kleinwort. Yeah well I hope rights even these guys don't resented it yeah same guy that's the tweet has since been deleted Eisenberg is going to be what it's important whoever. I don't see it happening but I don't have any confirmation. Who might it be done WG ER Sports Radio 515. Eisenberg could cook up some good blaze broke 5050 but the. So I can get addicted to watching a good guy you saw that I called but you could. I could actually move out of my basement bitter better their conference could be so good it would clearly be street legal. You know. Philly and do when when was that was that went around sometime. I'm holidays. AMC land which every episode. And I missed a good trumpeted beginning of dancers know what year I fell in. But how if you if you want the whole show I watched the season and a half and I decided it was just too. Sander too dark for me today I didn't enjoy it Ryan did you watch the whole run of that show. I I knew what rent yet there's no doubt it was great gas on a pole sale and sell you watched the whole run breaking bad by chance. Oh yeah okay watched it yet yours after came out right I I I never went back and watched the stuff that I missed. And again over the holidays while Earl on the one night I just sort of fell into a couple of episodes. And it was a result of a timeline how early in the shoulders to go to deal. That's a while ago which was to go to Google was like the first. Real big time drug dealer they still making platform was it a big building that they blew up no one of the base that was an Texaco. I don't know about a basement he ends of the can make ends up killing them. Tank columns defined. They're looking for. They're looking for Erin Paul what's his name oh my gosh Jesse delivered Jesse's car he tracks Jesse's car to two codes house in Mexico. And like to go and kill them but ink shows up and saves the day and what doesn't see. Doesn't see Walt and it's just either but that's it's it's a while an idol I think that he is not until a few seasons it. Okay. So I admit I got a audience at my first aren't watching the show that an aria. And maybe I got in right after that like maybe that was the end of near the end of the season and I started the next season. But I never new to us. That happened after I stopped watching because ought to remember to go Buick to go you know coast to coast for company get out talking to vote for you to be watching you really did just step on too close for comfort themselves. It wasn't that good self DiMaggio joining us now I mean I was just waiting for Rio. Silica podshow joining us now on the AT&T hotline. Sell what is the latest as you know it in the bills' offensive coordinator search. It's still ongoing. We don't know any. Potential leads right now they're talking to. Apparently the what that position deals could be off its record your position could be like she really quarterbacks go to mean. About time these guys switch around. One. Exe Dorsey. Ken Dorsey was I think Glenn Dorsey was at a football player action and he's going. Dornin musician and a few days ago they go to Tommy Dorsey Glenn Miller. I don't know how I could make glad Dorsey was probably like the welfare when Dorsey was a line mean that Brohm toward. LSU LSU okay yeah that's right will and you hit it anywhere to get this if they let down. Ken Dorsey and was interviewed yesterday for the position apparently that was according to the Charlotte Observer. So we're in a holding pattern and I still believe part of the reason we must be a holding pattern here is because there could very well be somebody I'm one of these. Four remaining teams staffs who could be in the next. And what about Alex Van Pelt for that mean he's somebody that you might be pretty easy connection. Is that it's is that an idea that appeals to you and or like gets your attention I do I. It does I don't some. I'm not so sure the validity of how we go. Much he would be in the mix other some conflicting reports out there but I did some work on him because that report was out there because I was particular interest that. In him and I magician I like here here's what I want and I've said this consistently from the beginning I want to coach with experience. Who's been around a you know what it takes to ill got to build an offense and a championship offense especially especially with experience at its then. That's worked with whether it be what ten different teams necessarily. But has been around the league enough and Alex has not really called plays a lot he did in buffalo in 2009 is one year as offensive coordinator. But you are on the sleeve a coach along timing is quarterbacks coach in Tampa when Josh Freeman had a really really good year. In any progress following year and he was also even the quarterbacks coach in the running backs coach in Green Bay ready lacy won rookie of the year and the quarterbacks coach I like it from that respect. I get rather more seasons season play caller I think outside help is really respected in this league. It to me this head coach needs experienced coaches which I think is something they're trying to get but they just don't have the coordinator. Speaking of experience though you mention only the one year calling plays and that is that's your Turks owner gets fired right for the opener so he takes over. An offense that he didn't really it's not his offense. To me do we know I'm. Principles lots of guys could do it he's never really had his own thing right and that's what we're talking on oh is he not call plays except for that one year. We don't even know what his blooper or because he's always been down the food chain. That's exactly right if you look at the rankings that year or all bad I mean they they were last in last guys in. Sacks allowed per pass attempt burst out a game third down percentage red zone percentage they were near the bottom in yards and points all that kind of stuff but let's remember he had. Trent Edwards then right Fitzpatrick and Brian robs our game. He had receiving corps that was pretty good Terrell Owens. At the end of his career obviously Lee Evans Josh Rio got out of that group. But three rookie offensive linemen as well and then you add on top and their rookie tight end and Shawn Nelson with a bunch other weird parts tight end. But you know I don't know how much you can gain from you throw on top of that the fact that he took that job over one week. Aft mail in before the season started and it just I don't know how much you can really judge there. It's not fair I don't think to him to judge him by upon all of that. And I never know with these coordinators like what they really know how much of it is. Are they are the who they want to be sort of speak as coaches a third not the head coach. Players of course have so much to do with it I I'll just say this about van pelt is an idea. I don't think green Bay's success on offense has anything to do with coaching. But I just at these quarterbacks coach Jim Rogers Rogers. That you watch as the field goal go through in Dallas and get the big the big hug from vampire like they're best friends there like he's got. Some good connection where their Rodgers rushed are probably point two ways were van pelts helped him. But I don't see that offense but I I just don't have respect for that coaching staff I think it is all the quarterback I don't think there's been eighteen. In all these years of watching you know since working here may be where I think a a team. Bit and it was a winning team like Green Bay is is a better example. Of all the quarterback Ben the steam. I think knowing it could be I mean look at that look at that coaches that went elsewhere that never succeed. Right and you look at gotta we've also discussed bright able he has been an offensive coordinator there are good. In Kansas City when he was the offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels went on to Denver and it really well the first half his first year. And by the middle of the second year essentially he was fired. You know you look at who was at Charlie Weis what Charlie Weis do weight eat well. So so I think I think it's another example that it it's it's it's all about the quarterback. I think you're close with two New England on Matta might have to think about it but I think in New England is having had Greece. Skill position players at times though we cannot not today. But gronkowski and and moss in Brady's biggest cheer like they've also had great players on the team that I mean Nelson's good. But I don't see. I I hear I think Rogers makes all the aloha those players there are so self what's your take on whether dog Whaley. In his chat that aired yesterday with Chris Brown of Buffalo Bills dot com. Revealed that there might be a terror down coming where do you stand on that. I think about this a lot that you guys part of that it was a good discussion yesterday on look. We all know A that. Nobody at the bills especially Doug Whaley was to give the blueprint and anything right I mean they don't let them tell us exactly what's going to try and back. Their best to not do that. I'm so it'll be just gonna go out there and start saying those things. If that's if that's the point at this what he's gonna do. Secondly I think we all know that it'll calm when Doug talks sometimes. He's trying to say certain things don't come outlets the way that he necessarily want to be at the greatest public speaker it is like that. So I try to put all the stick together I think about the things that they set with Terkel said at the at the podium when he hired Sean McDermott what he able to use long term and short term. Vision and in talking about that kind of thing and what charming Dervis at what that really said I really think Doug Whaley was trying to say is this Writely and today is. I think he's trying to say. Luck we can. We could still be pretty go to competitive we may even make the playoffs and next year too. We're not gonna have. Long term success. And a team you can count on every year to be a contender. Until we fix some other root problems in this organization. And that goes to the things that are happening in the locker room. The way we have to build the foundation up. To put us in a position to be there every single year. So he says it's not a quick fix I don't think he's talking about the roster necessarily or where they are record wise I think he's talking about is. It's a quick fix to get to where the Pittsburgh Steelers of the world our every single year or even Green Bay Packers whoever we're there just in the playoffs every year. And contending for championships. Yet we we we can win Ryder technique we can make the playoffs next year we think were close were that close talent wise to do that. But if you want us to be a team that is going to content every single year. It's it's a process to work it in in place right now. It's not a quick fix and that's why we have to start from the ground. Grounds or to build. Yeah I I think if you really wanted to try to convey a any kind of a message about the playoffs sell he doesn't say what what what what he gets to pretty late. In the conversation release our memory about recognizing the seventeen years. And that that's where the quick fix I think comment comes in. And that they did you eventually to to to meet its sound like he walked right up to the edge of the Darcy were your suffering speech at that point. I know there's you know we're gonna compete really hard and would give us a group a chance to try and win and like. Those are both brick buildings. Now at an option and and me and they are closely associated group. But we we've been keeping. I understand I sit back and like I said I think you can easily get to that I'm taking into account the messenger here who isn't how he generally talks end. How things come out when he speaks and I don't think he was laying out a blueprint for that necessarily because I don't think that's what he does. I think he's trying to give you a lot of coach B is actually don't really speaks and. He's also Adam and to me a lot of ways he's trying to take a lot of pressure off a new head coach and to Qaeda. You don't know you know know that we don't have necessarily quarterback. Situation now we're all clear on he might be clear that we don't know so he's trying to dance around those issues and again. I think if you ask him do you think you can make the playoffs picture I think he would say yes we we can win 910 games get the play us next year but. If you want long term sustained success or close to that right now we need to. Read you some things differently around here to be able to have that every single year we might get to next year but there's no promises well what we do want is a promise that I. You're going to be there. Yet do some things differently like what would be the difference as far as what the roster is you Molly like if if they weren't too. Attack a rebuild. You might see LeSean McCoy eight other top older players move see if the bills can get. Younger or more picks they might trade this year's picks for next year's picks things like that like more with the browns did. Otherwise. All apart from quarterback. Otherwise I don't know how they would necessarily be different on paper depending if they're they're gonna try to try again to squeeze in. Or. You know take a step back while. Like at the at well it way I'll answer this to use away that you're just gonna. Roll your eyes and not like because this is the way Pete football people they get sports people again I generally. Don't always disagree with thinking this way I think there's there there can be some validity to it although I think talent does trump thing and that is that they want a different way of doing things in. In the locker room and in Italy holding people accountable coaching and those focusing on the techniques involved instead of this latest scheme is in the details that are involved in Australia and accountable you can say culture if you want an argument. I don't I will but that's that's what he needs. I'd look at but that's what this book. I've I talked to somebody this week. Who sent me am I I don't say things a lot of times on the radio because I don't want us to keep piling on whatever I don't summit this week to Albany. They've been around bills organization for many many years Rex Ryan was the latest in early to leave head coach he's oversee. Okay now now all I'm telling you is is that. That doesn't mean didn't care okay. What it does tell me is. It on the GM I'm in the front office I see those things I think those are part of the reason why we're not where we are it doesn't have to be just about talent. It's about paying attention and doing it takes to win a daily basis and that's what. These coaches talk about what they talk about culture now. I believe and that I believe that that does play a role I believe that the reason why you go out and get. Mike lawful and short that's one coach is pretty much because the highest paid player at your team who arguably is the best football player at your team. Has no accountability to himself or his team has grown up yet in need somebody on his ass every single day to do that. I think that's part of the reason you go get that guy. Now now now look he's also a good football coach is not just because terror network talk this morning that does everything else people get it. We've used with the giants when he wants it grumbles about the greens that are really get out of that line but guys out of Herbert said today there were rumors out of the sister were now. There are rumors I heard that part of the reason why. Rex fired Karl Dunbar and Roddy John Blake was because our cell didn't like Karl Dunbar a bit like John Blake it can walk all over. And that's what happened. Dot I can totally get wins everything you'd just laid out being. Certainly a part of what whale you're referring to and is a process. And that it takes time. Because you've got a lot of guys that have been here through. A lot of maybe. Accepting low were. That you necessarily even know you're doing yourself a disservice settles in and it's just you know now. But it Sammy Watkins say that day of. The national championship game on ESP. Sammy Watkins was interviewed asked about it we want as a coach is before the date the court heard McDermott whatever he said. I'm getting used to losing and that's not. That's what he sat. I do think that you can make changes like this is like in life. And get different results. But I'm just so old. I'm so exhausted by all the different to what happens is now that's that you necessarily sell dislike sort of everybody together. That you know sort of promotes the bills it in a way it's like every time there's a change even if it's an assistant coach. There is whatever it is that assistant coaches or coach is known to be best that it is used to make the argument that the team will be improved. When you take you take an older coach moved to a younger coaches enthusiasm. When it's you know this now it's discipline and it's just like every one of these times. And it's it's not it never has to be wrong. But I just I've heard it all right like I get after all these different changes. I think and in this is something we talked about. Like before McDermott maybe even before while those bourbon after Rex is was fired. But what is the story about between now and the beginning of next year fans a lot of fans feel this way you know that. Feel like you just heard everything and how my go to believe that this time. And so I guess that's worry and I'm certainly not I don't have to fight anybody who's gonna tell me that working harder it is good. But I just I feel like how many of these coaches have come along have been described like that. And I area of a colleague of ours they set and I I was thinking this way before McDermott's press conference if you looked up Gregg Williams press conference but this is the same guy. This is half. Super Smart. You know enthusiastic. And he's gonna get these players to listen to him after Wade Phillips didn't do that and lost guys and they just thought he was kind of a ball war. And you know. It didn't work you know like for the most part. I'd look I mean. I'll eat as much as I say this stuff I am I think there is validity to that in sports from being around it and late coach whatever. Shall we the quarterback is and we can get there are a lot quicker I can tell you that and I understand what you're saying I do I think that part of the reason why greatly didn't succeed are the reason. I believe I go back and to give them a little more and how much more inexperienced coach except for on corrected that today. You don't ride. You don't rival Jerry gray the other some younger and I think I think there's been a clear effort here. Over the last two weeks to try and get the most experienced tightness that he'd get for guys have been through these types of things before Ben. Coaches and all the situations to try to handle. It'll all this kind of stuff to support this head coach so I at least say that we think they're moving that direction but you're right Mike is ours I'll never as much like I believe Coulter is real. And I believe we can be an impact or part of what you do is organization any organization whether it's at a a football team or radio station I believe those things are real. But. I still think talent. Is still warm port you have that talent or it doesn't matter what you're culture is. Right now I think the biggest job McDermott has shooter arsenic in this way you don't want boy when he got hired a man listen the news conference. Is to try to impact all of that and just how long that will take because there is a lot. I think that needs addressing him that way on this and it just I just in this organization I guys there's a certain level. That is an acceptable. And I imagine. Just dies on the team you mentioned Aureus is name if we wanted to use him maybe that's a reasonable place to be. Just sort of oh okay yeah well when we shall we how what is in buffalo you know what I and and that that needs to be changed but. It's I think that's a big job. Right I agree with you and I think that's a willingness to circle back to what you asked I I think they'll really recognizes what you just said bulldogs. In him by saying the things he said. In that interview which was actually taped after the press conference that tape aired that would boost website last Friday. I think what he's saying is sure we compete we we were going to compete and we can compete for playoffs even next year. But if you wanna be championship contender every year have the consistency in the standards that we want every single year here that's a bigger job and it's gonna take a little while to do. Well if you wanted to get the message out that they plan on competing for the playoffs he should set that. Because he doesn't say that anywhere in there and soul like that that's a real stumbling block you know apart a part of me sell sort of being. Agreeable to hearing really talk about it being a process men need to rebuild is is. It makes sense to me if they don't know who their quarterback I have been saying this since we were to do other journal holiday sale. Their quarterback is if there is not going to be Taylor. They're better next year olds. So to think that they could change him out and improve. On last year's record. Never has made sense to me is most frustrating part of all of what is going on here since Rex got fired ultimately. And you know if if if he walked wants to admit that it's gonna be a process and that they're too old to be competitive like I can accept. That makes sense to me being better than they were in 2016. With a rookie or cartel don't play quarterback sounds like banana farm it's crazy. I I Iberia I get that. And I think that's when people can say that your meddling it right to you can do that you might as well just fair down right I think we we but I don't Ali is that. Maybe that's the case maybe they think that. Can we really be any that any worse. Given Joseph the circumstance we had Tyrod Taylor we had a good running game and not a very good defense maybe we can look at what some of these other younger rookie quarterback's done or last few years if we can be just fine if not. Worse at least the same and maybe get a few breaks it better. I agree with you if you run with cart wheel do what's next year as I've been saying I do you have to at least recognize embraced or we're not gonna win it as deep as we did this year. I think it's are down to be really cool but when my dog slips I immediately think it would have to put down the same day Becky if that's what so. They are not sure I'm the right guy for the. This. Epic did you or did you or did you ever talk about like lawful medium no. Merv mentioned in his shell. I thought this kind of cool and I heard this and he said. He saw quite awful to me it in the in the building I guess you pass me he just happened to mention something to him about ourselves arias. Mike lawful side all I got a plan for ourselves that's all said I don't. Don't know that meets with that's what he said I. I don't I just eight minutes from six it means to an incentive to write whatever you know so I mean those of the things I guess that would. Right thank you sell you welcome. We could talk more about this take your calls at 8030515. You know what I if you know mile guy I can get width of the rebuild. 79 is what I don't wanna be. Again. That's what is so tiring go rebuilding you've never relieved attack that either relieving thing. If you did you do it you did in secrecy like you would want to admit so go ahead admit it do it. I got your back if you wanna do that. I I'm sick of playing games trying to Parse news conferences when the comments your general manager makes. Bake don't at all you know. One time from the next. I just felt told what you wanna do look Levine also we can really talk about it and not have to waste our time trying to figure out. 8030550. Much over the bulldogs WGR. I think if nothing changes and I picking up the option right you do have a new head coach. They're bringing an offensive coordinator also ran in the quarterback coach. I think. The question has it takes a lot of guts to leave a good quarterback I agree he's a good quarterback he's not a guy that's gonna carry it TV he's a good quarterback if you don't have the next answering end. So you know somehow they're gonna have to be really confident that something better before they take the risk of leaving about that the other possibility is renegotiating the structure. Of the options that they have been one of those he's not gonna do that. ESP candidate Joe Banner former NFL executives and and Adam Chester right there at the end he's not gonna do that because. So like you and me but it's already done it ought to have a good quarterback and if you're gonna cut Tyrod Taylor let you get to renegotiate these activities that. Our show. Pretty much. We think they are going to cut him and not have a better idea in hand. Correct that's what it yup that's your guess is my guess which is. Lie a hollow we interpreted. Or actually literally heard the words don't Whaley said in the order in which he chose to say that yesterday. I took that to mean but that what makes sense the first time you've really made sense to me a few weeks. That it's gonna take awhile because so of course he could movement that's right you don't know your quarterback is and you may draft one in the may take a little while. Those right yeah. That makes personally I don't think you don't you're gonna cut Tyrod Taylor which they haven't said yet by the way but that's what we believe is gonna happen. And then tell me how you're gonna be really good next year it's cannot hear I watched the whole ESPN and segment and the B do this thing where they move on their necks show and they ate the guys on the next show talk about a little bit that was straight win go today and shell after her earlier run said there at best noncommittal. About Taylor which is like why I'm saying too is I'm hearing. They're probably gonna Cottam and I'm hearing and I don't know yet there are still working on it I'm not hearing anybody. Say they're probably gonna keep them so I wish after ramat and you know somewhat taken might be from them. That he when he says third best noncommittal. Everybody on the error is talking like. He's going you just heard that conversation right there and if that weren't the case. It would be somebody's. Job at the bills. To communicate that. Two people ESPN. That the bills don't act like they care that much about us like we're just sort of local and the bill saw a lot of other games and I don't think they really need us they paid. I've just felt that BB I'm just being me there. But ESPN is what they care about that that's what they should care about it's what they used to care about I assume it's what they still care about and if some misinformation. Is flying around on NFL insiders. Any team gets to him immediately gets to work. Repairing that we know here's what's really going on right and then from that point forward even without it being stated. There's a different song song. So it's also I think relevant. And useful to point to observe that. If you're trying to figure out what happens with Tyrod nobody's correcting any of these reporters like data show after work talking like that and. Nor. Saw her. Are you hearing. John Murphy your Donald Jones. Dimming that that show is from one bills drive and John is that a terror I mean they worked there and but I never hear him. So a all of David made a decision we. This guy have OK they're made a decision but there's no. It sounds to me like they think he's going to. And it if if there was more doubt to be cast about that that show would be where it would be coming from. And I just don't hear it that way I don't think that's elect Obama apartments don't hear it that way nobody seems to be predicting his going back right. And at the bills wanted to that message out there I agree we understand about yes BN but I also think that the shoulder tumbled four hours. Would be getting their message out and it's not. Yours Trevor on WG RO Trevor. Okay right or good I got a look I don't know about question as much as it back out and I guess maybe yeah. A frustrate integrated like a hole but I. He cared about all are big and out of the got to change if they got it in this that they have the right coaches not from you guys just. General. On the scene you know maybe it is. We have a recorder back or. I get it but to boot turnaround on the field but it all boils down to that and when it's like at and I want to hear from the team. Eight we need to give a long term. Quarterback in place and that is how you wind along our. I think they do say that. I think it's it I I would not say that Whaley is blind to that like that and a big display a few times recently quarterback purgatory is a reference to that. How we sound the big its clumsy but I do think he's he would say the same as what you're saying part of the reason why they're not committing to Taylor. Is that they recognize that he recognizes they need to be battered and the they have even with Taylor who's the best they've had in years ago. So so you think that when he says this is gonna take from back in the the meeting we still have yet to find our quarterback we need to go find one and then develop them all or eight year. Well I think it's at that's it that's a part of it obviously. Giving the right thing they drafted to Shawn Watson and he worked just great out of the rapper. Then that would change a lot but I also think that what. He is talking about. It in we discovered it would sell. Trevor that it that there is a lot. Of problem. With in vote be received within the locker room where losing is just become. Acceptable. And we only have to try this car. Close you know well buffalo and there is something that needs changing it with regard to that solid. And and that's a process and that doesn't necessarily. Dove tail off of getting the quarterback although you know having a great one would change a lot of things in winning some games. It derby a lot of talk about other learning to win. That we winning but that's that's it that's a really great way to Florida able. And suddenly our culture is better because like were we have a great quarterback. But that doesn't. Walks away look ever at great quarterback doesn't mean Marcel bar is stopped being a knucklehead maybe it does mean I could I guess but. It at all. Right right Pittsburgh Pittsburgh I've thought about Pittsburgh would remain an open one time got to meet freaking out at somebody about comparing Pittsburg. It the six or bubbles in my lifetime is that does that thing where you hear me yelling about in the in the open that's played. And the Steelers and my TV's brightest suspended for the year let William Bell's missed game for drug suspensions but stopped just rolls body. With them and it doesn't come to define their franchise because what defines their franchise is the winning that they've done and they're still winning and they got this great quarterback and they're just. But just go. So all that stuff. Doesn't slow down the machine. Because the tracker on news crew of the Pittsburgh African Steelers about a mile away. Sunday will be the Steelers sixteen AFC championship game appearance. Mike is next on WG RO Mike. They want you guys good. This you just talk about caterpillar. You know obviously about seventeen unit. I think it considering the up or paying the other players. They don't have many choice also went. They get paid days for me you know there are some money in the account the deadly the end. You know they don't perform as well and then one more free money so I think you know well over. I'm fine packed in her lap while you and for the big contract and two and a bit carnival club this because we need the. Overture you're saying you're saying you think he he he got that contract and was lazy and I just think that's. Completely wrong I mean you would have carried you would have players on the team there are lazy would play you have players on teams relatively on all the teams that better like Vatican there it's just it. It doesn't matter you even know it if your team wins. It's mediocre and mediocre player but some are saying they're not. Pop guilt. Okay and he did pretty much that that's that's right but that doesn't mean their lazy does that mean that they're they're overpaid which was your first point they're overpaid. And they don't try because they get all this money. I don't I don't think so. It happens but only that but that's widespread market is next on WGR Lamar. Guys thanks so much that it halt jerk. That I've been built its sixty. And we eat and actually see this mess and I'm. Looking at now. A lot but we look at India. Mid eighties ordered a player. It miserable scene that just couldn't put it together. Right after chuck Knox left and starting with Kelly did you number your rebuilt. What actually came interviewed grade but we're here for years to get where they work. No doubt you know. Paying. In 1981. They were in the playoffs in 1983. They were eight Nate. In 1986. Jim Kelly arrived in 1988 they were twelve and four. There there were there was no long. Growth period with Kelly here the point about culture Jim Kelly arriving at the bills is another point against like all this other theory Ole. Kind of culture thing Jim Kelly could sling it he showed up in two years they won twelve games. Yeah that is more rent it out exactly my point acute health came but more just people it just swung the ball he can quit date. Winning attitude in a no nonsense no BS attitude. You came in pushed players around the world news get what he needed they'll always helped a double play that crap right now. If you think the future is so if you say so I mean OK if you say so I don't have like. Balks open on that ice this. So to me like you were saying is gonna take a while and tell him that people call in and say get a quarterback in your mate and I agree that yes take awhile. You have to find the guy and that's really hard to do Green Bay you know looks looks good on TV. Lucky for them they're gonna what thirty years. Torii five years of having. One of the two or three best quarterbacks in the NFL. All right nice for them you know. Could add him. Rush to affect. The development at. Some sort of on a lot of excitement here thank you mark Mike showed in the bulldogs this is WGR. A. You Zack brown band yeah. Caller twelve Q3 color twelve right now. 6449878. Compared to just go see Zach brown man. Sunday June 25 at these Darian lake performing arts center minimum valued prize fifty bucks courtesy of our friends that live nation. General contest rules and why. This is a winner before you can buy him deal they go on sale or moral at 10 AM wide Venetian dot com. Faithful have been listening since about an hour ago or so you missed Travis Yost from TSN and before that a good hour. Feel good in quotes that our talking about Robin Lehner. Others somebody wouldn't playing today from Lennar describing what happened in Toronto I think he's like super level headed there and a little bit you know just humble. About it all and not the kind of things that I hear fans. Describe him as. So. You might like to go back and listen that if that subject interest you I think that there are a lot of bad. Criticisms. Heading at Robin Lehner things that really doesn't deserve but he gets mostly gets blamed for being treated for first round pick. That you know of course isn't his fault that the price was steep for Lennar and he's got a certain standard our idea of a first round pick even if it was all OPEC. You know is high. And done people get get on some pretty easily around here is always one Saber player that gets to part of a time. Sure. The needs to be there has to be one guy that just gets a rough ride yeah. That would not have been Jian the last year. Maybe that it could Blatter was out for us to be mad that. Z was hurt and missed most of the year well your was kind of a happy year for a team that wasn't very good right good let's Gionta was slick. Why should play what I call. I like well I I never. Wanted to Blake one lay myself in. Of the frame but I separate ring and it's okay like my equipment and your within limits cedar lake. It's not like killer burst of dead weight on this team but I'm not Tanya keep him beyond this year at all okay. But it's not really bother me seeing him on the peace he's okay. The one thing that Lennar is saying in that if there's no longer version of it that are employed at one point. But it it it's only he's he's. Saying. How he behaved when he got pulled his being misinterpreted and I don't I don't think that this was missing it's impossible to miss interpreted. He skates over staring at his coach in the frozen stuff and yells at him. And he gave up what we're happy goal that could change the whole game he said he was mad you know it's that he says I get mad now and that's a hallway I'm right. But you know make this whole thing going. Little you've stayed up yuppie staring at him like Patrick swap spearhead. It Mario Trombley. So no you need that in some thing like you long were bad. But I can understand you tell me your net I I I did I didn't even I certainly accept you being mad. But don't tell me I misinterpreted that you'll match at royal and here's Demetrius next hello. Demetrius are either. Okay well I had higher hopes. We say it sabres or bills 8030550. Joseph took abusive talk about he has to approve a trade but if this team doesn't improve. Sharply in the standings may be someone that demonstrated letter Gionta. The dog Whaley comments that we spent a lot of time on yesterday a little bit today. Tell us what you're thinking 08030550. Is the number Mike show in the bulldogs' WGR.