Jan 21, 2017|
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Mike class from nine news in Denver he's on the sports team there obviously that's why were read about it talk about. Rick Dennison who is the bill's new offensive coordinator. So Mike whistle come board at 1 o'clock today. Talk about Rick Dennison and exactly what kind of offense he's gonna run what to expect from him. As a coach gonna get wood John let your he's one of my draft guys like to go to one of the go to draft guys here. Our sports talk Saturday for us we'll talk bill's prospects as well that's coming your way at 1230 the first hour pretty much wide open that's what we like to do here that's the way we roll. Our sports talk Saturday we like take some phone calls. And good to get your thoughts on what's going out especially because I really haven't been able to do that with a lot of you all out there over the last several weeks. Softer the phone number out there right now and I really wanna talk football and bills in what is going on with the team right now as far as coaching hires everything the has transpired since the last time I've been on sports talk Saturday because the last time I was on. There was. No head coach and then they hire the head coach shortly after. And we press conference. And I believe that was the last time I was on the head coach hired came like right after that. But Nate was not last Saturday and then here we are again. This week so it's my chance to kind of go through you everything that transpired. Take a look at the coaching staff. What's been going down at one bills drive we'll do all that 803055888552. Packet is my things to talk about a little bit today. Somebody down in Tampa doesn't know. About how to. I don't know copyright royalties whatever word you wanna use because they're infringing upon something in buffalo. And I think it's kinda had not only dumb but. Almost at what he's a word like what air headed how how how can hockey person not know this but I'll I'll tell you what that is a little bit later in the program. Tomorrow's games NFL championship games AFC and NFC. Of course you have the Steelers in the patriots. And you have the Packers and the falcons talk about that as well you wanna do they predictions on that we can do that he can also should be those on Twitter at sell sports on Twitter Richard following us. At WGR 550. As well so it is. Now we know Sean McDermott of course we've known that for a few weeks. And it is now Rick Dennison the offensive coordinator who basically flew under the radar. Which was pretty crazy to think about. Did no one had him. Peg for any type of role in buffalo no one connected him to Sean McDermott. And here we sit and they do line of firing the bills also hired a few other guys on staff. Mike waffle comes in as a defensive line coach. I think we've already had a lot of you know you you heard. A lot said about him. I've come on the radio talked about and we know that from hard knocks. I don't even know we can do this house thing about this Nate earlier. Can we play any of Mike waffles hard knocks out and easily beat out all the swearing because it's a lot of swearing but there's some pretty good sound from him as as well. A lot of swear that there is I love this guy though that because he swears I mean that's funny at at that that's not the reason you to be great coach not swear swear I don't care but. It's because. He. Is a no nonsense ex marine who actually knows how to coach football and he's a good football coaches well. That's Super Bowl teams coaching them was with the giants. I believe when they won the Super Bowl against the patriots have not bolt of them actually. All those championships has goes a very good defensive line in and in Saint Louis slash LA with the rams. And now he's coming home essentially to buffalo to. Cornell where he. Graduated in 1972 I believe and what I'm told from people there are some in on the coaching staff said he still very involved their program I love this guy because. I think he is exactly the kinda coach not only the bills need but let's be honest the kind of goes the bill set out to higher and that's gonna we're awhile launch on this today. And where I wanna go at it and talk about what you. When you step back and look. At the hires the bills have made. What they've done with the coaching staff specifically. Sean McDermott. Rick Dennison OC Leslie Frazier DC keeping Gainey cross mess special teams. Bringing in Bob bad itch at linebackers. Rob Boris a former offensive coordinator for tight ends wind gets the LA longtime veteran coach. For offensive line in the run game coordinator. They just. Went out and signed yesterday and announce a site injured he's been a assistant offensive line coach Kelly skipper coming in as running backs coach. Told you about lawful. When you think about these guys they brought in there's a lot more decisions we made by guys were still a staffer war last year but we don't know they're going to be next year what's going out with them. How do you feel now about where the bill stand. With this staff. In with this team but specifically. Really the staff and if you feel any better than what you did a few weeks ago because let's be honest. And I even said to Sean McDermott in the press conference to be listen that press conference I asked him. The second question I said listen. Lots of people were they haven't taken shots at this organization locally and nationally. National people said local people said nobody's gonna take this job. Nobody wants it lots perceptions about dysfunction all those kinds of things why did you want the job why did you take. Yo he said it was the best job in the market from his own researching whether we want to believe that or not I know people don't wanna believe that that's fine to command said. Any also is a very meticulous man there's a lot of research so. That's what he set and I'll take him you know and his value for what he said but either way. We see now that there are veteran coaches in this league. Taking these jobs in these positions here there will be people who are cynical about it. Who say. They need jobs they're gonna take any job. Yep maybe that's true. But people who then in my experience lifers if you will coaching in the NFL. Who have opportunities to go and work different places. They will have other opportunities as well and other places they will be able to choose sometimes. To go to. On what they're fired usually happens with a coach he's fired me let's he's like go from a staff. He generally has. Three or four other options to go to on new steps. Because new staffs had a lot of green guys who've been around a little bit. Not all the time maybe you wanna go the younger but generally because of your known. Any device that you're gonna look for guys who you can bring in get with the program right away unit to teach anything. And these guys are becoming a buffalo I think is good. It says more than I think what. We heard about from the organization a few weeks ago. But the overall picture to mean no no doubt about it. I was gonna say it I think the bills are high good coaching staff. I think this is a nice after putting together I like it and. Whenever it didn't matter if it was let's be honest it didn't matter if it was. Who are the names that were being bought Robbie it's about for offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelt. And I threw a couple out there just in case. Yo Brian Gay balls from the areas with the pit that is tight ends coach for the patriots Brad Childress. Greg Olsen man that was you can bet that guy like you on fire last week right. It didn't matter any of those guys brought it didn't matter even Rick Dennison now no matter who they brought in. There will be many fans out there who complain about it because simply let's be honest it's not the best person you could possibly get yes you're right it's not Don Korea. Well I'm sorry that air Korea Al died six years ago you can't bring him here. Because that's what people want they want the best person you can get it it's not that best person all my god. They're the worst person it's not the way it works. The best people already hired by other teams you have a new staff here even head coach he's got to fight people. So to meet to go out and get people with either a head coaching experience or be long long time experience in this league. Is a good thing it can only help John McDermott. I think it was very. Very methodical in play and out of the bill's exit out hire these types of people yet they let these guys they brought it. Pretty much every one that I got to the back a look at Kelly skipper and Kelly skipper may be like the least experience and it's even illegally twenty years. And the majority of these guys they come and and they've been initially 2325. Years even longer. Some of them like why can't steal. And Rick Dennison had experience on both sides of the ball I guess Steele was an offensive line coach that took over defensive coordinator duties which was weird. For the Philadelphia Eagles after Jim Johnson retired. Rick Dennison played linebacker Lee. Many became offensive coach. Kelly skipper. Has been a special teams coordinator at the college level so I also think that there was a designed to bring in guys to. Have worked with entire parts of rosters if you well. So luck. I understand that these are like the greatest these Mike McCoy would have been the best offensive coordinator get it was available I agree with that he didn't come here. And maybe that says something about where the organization is or the the quarterback situation whenever that's why I understand all. But when you're did when you're dealing with a limited. Pool of people. It's not always be easy to get the best or even choice one a or one B. But when you bring in people who better on the sleep for a quarter century. I think that's a good thing for a first time head coach. I can only help. A roster that I think needs more teaching more technique more attention to detail. And the day to day operations that go along with playing football and not just the scheming that goes along with trying to confuse quarterbacks. Which is what I think Rex Ryan tried to hang its hat now the technique necessarily at the day to day operations of doing it. With a fine toothed comb the drawing up plays on aboard a trying to abuse Tom Brady and that was what he was about. These guys are different. They this is a group that's going to. On a daily basis. Worry about the small things the little details the techniques and I can't say that that's vanity that's good. But for all the things of that people are set about direction. Dysfunction in not having a plan. Your disingenuous. If view. Don't recognize. That they at least had a plan with the coaching staff they wanted to hire and they put that plan in place may not be the best guy a spot. But the plan is in place and the plan has been XQ did which is. Longtime coaches with experience. Some bad head coach experience. And have worked maybe even with entire roster stumble sides of the ball some capacity. So you don't like most about the coaching staff. Paula let me guess a that so. Then. Presidency say Zimbabwe facial because you got got bald guy here another ball got there there are not all guys. He had there if they see Kelly skippers volley prizes ball held some Germans ball Leslie Frazier get that she gave blood he's out there. He crossed when he's pretty much all the thoughts is that it's not okay what is it close. A magnet but I think my favorite part about the coaching staff is I don't think you have to worry about any of the coordinators in the next year or two leaving. For head coaching jobs or for other jobs beat the continuity into coaching staff. All likely be intact for the duration that John McDermott is with the team and let's be honest if one did leave that would actually not be a bad thing it means he did good right Connecticut job right. So I was always a thing about Greg Roman the people said well. Meant they do really well he's gonna leave I'm like that's okay Pennington did really well that didn't happen ultimately we know that and it's a good point you're right about that I don't think. These are the kind of guys we think you're gonna be having their doors knocked down. For people to come call. Like Leslie Frazier who was already was ahead coach I mean Leslie Frazier turns on the defense I would not be surprised he got some interviews. Head coach experience we turn around a defense to put him in the top ten he would probably get some books right. But we gotta say and probably not that kind of guy right now we get to really build some of these even some of these. Position coaches. Bob Davidge rob Boris want to steal in duties at Kelly's I don't see them as hot head coaching candidates a year from now even at the bills were to go to its atomic playoffs. You're right and they can support Sean McDermott McDermott needs a all for senate coaches to mean need really good experience coaches to support them and I think the bills recognized that and they put that plan action and that's what they did. And you can be upset about the guy they got. But it's clear that that's what they want to do and that's that they did and and I think that's a good thing. Rain Clarence is first up here at sports talk Saturday what's going on right. And it Albert thanks for the moment I cite the game Monday. Night in the act so banks and at the moment. I think you I appreciate as well are you the one they came up to me I saw you what. You were in line it just me about doing now play by play or anything I had a couple conversations there. That would certainly. I appreciate you for. You know I called for you know reasons why am I an interpreter or whatever the radar with the colts being in Whaley. For public you think he's going to be back I am or how much money. Why. But the real I called it is not going back and let it impact you know I've rack your heart or. All. I was excited what really kept. That that if we get about one. We can rent I. A lever that last inning block we'll see you know nobody. Do you know back you. Allard a contract I don't advocate you know what you liked by. You know. I think bill rock album got at that point it here. And we don't have a lot of friends are we re negotiated but that would a lot more. You know up that he Brit I. Explain why it. Question at your own needs it looked back. All shot now let's get what else. I'll I'll I'll try to re I appreciate it thank you thank you very much are saying hello again in I'll try to do both of those innocently did arbiter. I'll call on the money man because he's scheduled to make nine point two point nine million that's why is the money man this year so. Two point nine million and the cap for Dan Carpenter what he's given you I I can't. I am not agree. Known. Do I think he'll be back. Don't think so because how can you justified that type of huge number for a guy that's been that inconsistent right two point nine million and the cap. So you never know they'll they'll bring in competition at sums at some point for him they'll probably bring in the camp I would think I don't know though. And we'll see because no we looked around this league and you look around. Kickers just don't grow on trees you can. Make your own 90% the pupils all the time league teams and they don't get rid of that. The guys that are out there aren't necessarily coming in and taken his job because they're not that good themselves but it two point nine million I need a better and better production at the interpreter. And I'll be fine than government at that number just doesn't make sense. So we'll see where that goes into that. You know about the Tarek question I've heard this question many times and ray is it is is one of many who have a valid question about that here's a few reasons. Why I think that they did what they did with Tyrod when they get it. It's easy to say while they rushed into it right they they might have to get that part the second. They also give themselves out which is what the out is now you you don't have to. The only difference between he here's really the only difference. Between not signing tyra Cilic any money last year at all any extension letting them put out a deal to what they did the only difference. Was really the race he got last year. It's the same situation. Although I will say I shouldn't I shouldn't put that way there are two differences the other difference is you could franchise in the shipment that was never gonna happen it was he had a I mean monster monster type the year that they kind of money it's gonna take a franchise America franchise. And don't think they would of the real difference was that he got that race but I do think that's part of the reason. He wanted to why I think that they did it when he did it more than anything. Was because of the noise at his agent made and being as lowly paid as he was the bills wanted to do right by him and some sort of way. I have no idea if there was any type of threat of not playing football games it didn't appear that way. I would not be surprised of underlying that was that threat of OK but what are you for the regular season my guys not playing you you're paying two million dollars a year. I don't know that I am to say I wouldn't be surprised considering how this all went down because of the noise the agent may. But I do think the reason why they gave on the deal they gave them when they get it. Was because really they wanted to do but right by him by giving him a bit of a raise of more security for last year which was to raise his salary six million dollars to nine million. Because he had a bonus in their for a million. To make it three take net plus six is nine so. That's why. But really. They still are in the same spot technically than they would've been a big never signed him anything. Which is he's going to be a freeagent except that you can't franchise that's all. And they canceled that renegotiate. He did not shut the door on that. He backed said at the end of the year locker clean out pretty much it you have to live. You'll look at it but he would not be opposed to it so we'll see where that goes the heart of Edison's interesting because as has been noted in pointed out Dennison. Was Tyrod quarterbacks coach in Baltimore in 2014. Now I don't think. That they hire Rick Dennison because. They made the decision to say what Tyrod Taylor and he knows them. What I do think is. You hiring Dennis in and now that this is why you hire but now a byproduct of that is it's a guy who knows him. Very well who can give you even more of a read on what to do with him going forward. When you have that conversation. Go to Jason Tagalog array I hope those questions and answers those answers helped. Let's go adjacent. Not too much you know I'm all right but. Yeah I don't think they're the same thing because. I don't say Canada or anything more than. 5050. Quarterback can. Begin taping then. And went pretty. I. So you think they should move on from him. Yeah. I'm in Atlanta quarterback. And they should let somebody within the first two rounds. So move on from Tyrod and draft somebody. It was the first two rounds. OK I appreciate it thanks Jason appreciate the phone call let's go out to mark in Jersey let's go somebody. I do so I expect. Com on your yeah. On the they're not like about the staff the couple circled aren't what corrects your card with the jets who saw Roman was he one of only outsiders who have looked it and axed. From the perhaps it was kind of you know strange how that all went down. And although I want to get your take on how that how that all happened and then on the. How which part happened tell me again Rex is firing. In our noted and obviously that starts but obviously about the dog note that the whole moment things are all saying and then you mentioned David. Our club we believe that you might have been interviewing. I was told last week the David Collie was in town in Irving for some sort of position in some capacity I don't know what it was more obviously he wasn't hired as OC. It may then interview for that so they moved out or could've been an interview for quarterbacks coach receivers coach I'm not sure because we don't know where all those coach Estandia. Okay. There are a part of that the way they would you know under candidate crap and all where you know. Blunder on Sunday and I'm like our local parks or pretty senator who captain of the spartans are. Known artists who was unhappy just you know plodding around in the middle walls you know hoping linebackers Clayton didn't and you wonder what what do you what will you be looking out. First thing like and in training camp and in it I don't know if you're allowed them are you a lot of the off seasons so. Yeah yeah we go on I'll be there for OTA's and mini camp let them. It's kind of like the same thing for. Regular season a little bit like we don't like to watch everything that we pretty much I could get to see a good majority of I have to remember exactly what the rules are for that but I'll be there. Almost all the time that the team is on the field for OTA's and mini camp. I don't wanna know what shall be looking for a bear like this. That will depend I knew they drafting what you know any if they have. It's cardiology ultimately watch a lot of care dale Jones right I mean we'll know discard L I think by then right. If they draft a quarterback I'll be looking at that so is our scheme wise about it you're asking app for sure will I'll be looking at what I like to watch mark. Is the grassroots stuff the installation of stop I'll be able to tell raid away. You know what kinds of stuff they're installing on on defense for 334 of the mixing it up those are the kinds of things I'll be looking. How about the inflate the intensity of the practice. Data looked too much it OTA's and mini camp it's teaching that's teaching time now that's not about intensity always hit anybody. That's teaching that's making sure technique why is making sure guys know exactly what they're expected do we know in the new schemes. Also much appreciated so thank you. I no problem thank you though that stuff goes along with thumb. More training can get the intensity stuff like that you can watch and who knows what together from all that I don't know. You know. Mike Shelton wrote an article earlier this week. And here we are like 34 days later. In some of you are still asking me a question about the article. And because of the question is why I have a Twitter poll I put up last week to one or I should be mad at Mike joked. We don't know I've talked about I'll explain they just got another question about a Twitter about this article and what Mike Cho did in the kind of position he put me in. And I did I I I don't know I should be mad at Mike all week. I should've men. Are alleged to be mad all you. Out when we come back going to be here. Golf but if your team to do that plain mad I would have played a regular public defense but he's everything probably looks what you gonna do a couple. That's alignment wanna Edwards does that and Murphy this week great summer and deeply for Leslie Frazier you don't have to go back in in the Giddings E'Twaun ever been around a little bit at the back and look but. Just talk about you know the habits of schemes to expect coming up for the Buffalo Bills that isn't going to be interesting. They need to watch Woolsey Mike chill wrote an article earlier this week tech heavy GR 550 dot com. And the article. Was titled imagining the bills as open. If you read the article. It's all about. Eight week. Press conference. That Terry Google a call with reporters. Two and we had to get sale which is I guess. At this fake press conference and started talking about what he's gonna do with the team and keep not giving Tyrod Taylor and all these kinds of things this was fake it was satire it was. Imagining the title of the article is imagining the bills as open. Nate. Because he used me in this article and quotes that I had said and cervical. They Terry Google. Saying things to me they saying things to me. I cannot tell you how many people legitimately. Tweeted me and asked me about this press conference. And the things Terry Google actually said thinking it was a real. I got text messages. DMZ you get is this Mike shall article really what I did not like it's so so I ask where I asked our Twitter the other day. I put a poll that you can still find it is actually done now. The poll last 24 hours here's the results of the poll my poll said should I be mad at Mike show. For writing a what if particle that some people believing I reported things that actually didn't because that's the that's like my credibility because I'll be honest with. People actually started threads on message boards about this article. Attributing it and thinking I reported these things are asked these exact things which I didn't because Mike's article is ache. And I said. I didn't do that could mean I didn't write about that stuff. The art the hit that the hole that was close. The options in the polar yes I should be mad at him what a jerk. No I should not be mad at him people just aren't Smart. What would you vote. The latter. 52% said no Sal don't be mad at him people are not Smart. 48% of you said yes I should be mad at him what a jerk some said but he is a jerk we shouldn't be mad at him. Which no I don't have all three day I gave that I knew if I guess that is a battery now to take it it would definitely ran with it we all know that. That would win if I gave the option of while mikes at your what you should still not mad at him for this particular incident. So I just got literally here after four days later another tweet asking me about this article if it was real and it is not real it is fake. It says the door hatch act and imagining in the title stick news. So stop going to your local bill's message board in writing threads about things that terrible set itself apart GO which just Arturo next thing you know blood speed and I don't cover the stories are tweet now. Step Abacha said. I have enough things that I report that get twisted around or that wind up not exactly happening the exact way so people think that I don't know what the hell's going out. The power of course I mean they they clearly there are people who wait they just wait in the waiting there lurking out. The cultural right but they're there they don't troll that much they're waiting they're lurking. In his suit is something happens is that exactly to a tee the way you the way I reported they got to let me know about for example a tight. Everybody in the world pretty much felt. It it was if he wins job to lose going into the process and I'll tell you it was in any heavy shot McDermott welcome what can I tell yeah so I would say on the air. Did Palin's job to lose I mean he's going to be the favorite. As soon as they hired John McDermott. Like literally willing to edit some dude gets after me hub truly wrong again. I took what was wrong about this city it's dealing with the leading candidate he office. Utley get out of the toll I don't know it's like I think you'll really lurk in just sit there. In your your office. I'm getting too much credit there if you are basement or whatever and say as soon as they hire a coach I'm going to. Send tweets tell how wrong he was appealing was the leading candidate at some point this process it's like the Floyd Mayweather of trolls they just. They bounce around a basic pilot and then they get their shot to right wait for the shot that you once shot of the guy wait for that's right the decade high school he. Balked at the kitchen he runs away because he knows that the TV it that if you catch him and you beat them up in mean. That's an and so. I'm not met Mike shall for the record but I just a wonderful should be let's go to frank in Hamburg I frank. All right glad. Miller. At the clock in the champ decorate your sources at quarterback from Texas to act. Like she western Michigan. State from Ohio State and at and prevent and what you. Tommy do lie did I did I keep Tyrod Taylor or not. I'm Jared Taylor is that if you up the team. OK so you're getting me pat homes you're giving me Cory Davis. Who were the other guys. It is a trial states Malik hooker and it didn't. And answer. Yet and it installment solid thank you thank you okay come. I here's a here's where I'm going with us. I am going to take. I'm I'm not gonna take pat homes because I think I can get good quarterback. A good quarterback in the strapped in a later round dissent. Does it this isn't a top heavy quarterback draft but there's going to be some decent guys available in the second and third round I think so I'm not gonna take my home as much as I do like my homes. I'm not glee take the defense and then I think the bills have a very good defensive line they just stretch the Jack lost in the go to 43 he's Napoli over loss or Jerry Hughes so I'm not doing that as much have a Solomon. This is a tough -- choice between Davis and hooker. But in this day and age you can get some really good wide receivers later in the draft and take Emily Coker in this and in this scenario. So were the epic and I think he would be at this point. I would have to see. I like Adams from LSU I think better but I think Willie cooker is close. Yeah I mean I think all these guys a little Holmes is I think Davis is worth the ten pick I think Willie cooker for the bills might be worth ten against so. As of right now I sit here without knowing the come by stuff the interviews all those kinds of things. I would say out of the list you gave me I would take Moly Coker. Would you take a much. Order my home you like them. Yeah top ten mean. Arm and at unarmed. Atlantic. On the side. He is I like I need. I just think in this draft time if if you wanna take a quarterback hang you can get one a first round you like but I think you might be one of the second or third you might like as well. Because in less in Lancaster biscuits product probably gonna be gone I don't know where Watson we'll be but it's it's a tough choice I respect that frank I I would not be. L I wouldn't be totally bashing this team if they did something like that that's for sure. It. And that's that's a fair point that's interesting I appreciate it I am we'll see we're told John let your coming up but today at 1230. He's a drafting analysts and he's gonna. Tell us a little more about the quarterback prospects and wide receivers and safeties actually three this position you brought up because I specifically asked him. About those three we can talk about them because I think that's where the bills need to target. In this draft depending on what happens with Tyrod Taylor jacket Orchard Park what's up rents were stocks Saturday. These cell summit regardless of the bill tush irk me. Excited about the coach. Others were immaculate the Russians. Really long ones young proven talent. The stripper confession and there's sort of cryptic. I mortar no. Is Doug really. Actually can't prove that I delicate stage used to get rid of Tyrod Taylor. There's enough like I gains or less and probably during the upbeat about IP. Is it possible that he could have talked. Put gore in two. Blowing the whole thing up and still have safety could actually get these coaches for one year. And you gotta get it around now there's no way they could possibly you'll they would get you type. I I I agree with you on this I'll say this Jack what I've said from the beginning here is. I don't know how Doug we really could really. Up basically essentially put his career. I maligned by going to Cargile Jones or rookie because. Unless he has it written in blood from Terry Beagle that he save after this year I think he has to win this year and I think that's essentially you're saying right. It exactly and I just. I think with her you get shot but it is also the this shot. Sit tight you know what I write is to me Jack I think tyra is ultimately a guy that you can win with you can be successful you can win games you go to the playoffs and who knows from there with Tyrod but. You have to have a lot of other things go right around him for that to happen and at the end of the day I want I think they'll really wants. Eight quarterback who that's not what we need that's or relying on we know that going in any game no matter what goes wrong for us we got that guy who can win games for us. Yeah I don't get the idea that you know the F assault upon returning draft. The guys that I mean you know did the likelihood of drafting a great quarterback is low no matter where you are dressed. So why I keep the good quarterback because when they give you Karen and just popular when a lottery one of these years. Flyer somewhere else in the breath. I understand I understand I agree I'm I I am not down with like tanking or stripping it all down at all I think god doesn't really work in football it's hard to do it. The only thing it does guarantee a losing it doesn't it's not like hockey here even basketball where. There are the superstar players other that can help you although the 76 of them and trying to for ten years in the short and right. It right Jack thanks I appreciate the phone call. I listened so. See any likens as I reported first here a couple of days ago had a second foot surgery. Tim Graham the Buffalo News give him credit he actually reported it the in early January that Cindy was going to have the surgery. I report a few days till he did have the surgery and teach is expected. To be ready for training camp may be even before that we'll see how the rehab goes and be cleared by doctors the bills confirm that yesterday a press release as well as stating Shaq Lawson had. Arthroscopic knee surgery and I think that's what it was exactly how big the exact term but it was something minor because they said he should be ready for all offseason activities. The guy who did the surgery and Sammy doctor Robert Anderson he is the Carolina Panthers team position he's a renowned foot specialist while. He actually. Talked about the exact surgery it's Amy Hadley did not specifically say him but how this thing works he did and a podcast was supplying your ballot ESPN. Any really went into detail about what to expect from guys who have this particular surgery and even a second time around. The Jones fracture which is what it appears Sammy likens at. I'm gonna play you the sound from that podcast we come back I think it's fascinating it's really good stuff to listen to to understand. Why some people have a second surgery a lot of them in the situation and what to expect from its we're gonna play that song for you. From doctor Robert Anderson when we come back credit to ESPN's podcast was the Banja bell and we'll do that for you when we come back here on WGR. Parallels 1013. Great up and because I honestly don't see any of these three quarterbacks being popped and it. Well they go their lead but also the same problems they're great quarterbacks with three years of experience in college and they're not going to be ready. If you get somebody's that he's not going to be the every down guys CB is going to be the every sound guy is going to be like a perceived in my voice or somebody like that. John Clayton which over the bulldogs earlier this week and Natalia I I tend to agree with. A lot of what he said which is basically they're not to be ready right away and if the bills really do move on from Tyrod. To me it's almost like EU have a better chance when Ricardo Jones anyway the draft of what these guys right away I don't know that's how I feel because there's no guy that's gonna step in right away. It be that guy you're not looking at a into luckier Cam Newton or someone like that. And my G strike gold and Russell Wilson type of guy just comes out of nowhere to be incredible rookie year right. So I I tend to agree that this is the kind of class were looking at this year but there is some good value and quarterbacks I think in this class read a top job ledger. At 1230. Today about that. Watching college game he see this kid makes it one of these from half court they got a lot of shots made from half court house and there at duke today do takes a Miami Syracuse Notre Dame had to noon today so. Paul Hamilton have to forgive me if I'm caught up watching that while he's talking. Did you see the video yesterday posted Bleacher Report indicated. Before the North Carolina games now twelve years is it three Knoll the re half court shots and 03 anyway. Nothing he was just lots he was like he must be like a brother of a player or like a counter like. Sell your car he'll lobbed it how much are three different times in the crowd went insane after the third but like eight you've got to see the video. I'm gonna have to it's pretty neat if you need to post that an hour. I did FaceBook page to be so be it will direct people they're seeing go. Go to CNN salary roll here we've that's how we promote things we put it on so the bills sent out a press release yesterday. June. Inform everyone that seen Watkins. Did have a second foot surgery which you heard he reported here by me a couple of days ago. But also to tell you the check Lawson had a knee surgery and people should be ready for Campbell to ready for fighting and said that lost you're ready for all season activities. Doctor Robert Ayers and perform the surgery. Read output specialist. He happened to join justifying it bell on the fetus she focus podcasts and ESPN this week it was fantastic. What he talked about other plays some of the sound but I'm also gonna tweet a link he can listen to all later because there's so much good stuff in here. But he was tremendous breaking down exactly what happens what this injury is all about. Did you see any specifically just talked about the Jones fracture which is what pretty much what Timmy hat. It is not easy to operate out of so you can always do was think about him talking specifically about Simi because he's pretty much is without saying his name. Talk about how the injury happens what exactly takes place at the injury. How the rehab recovers. And then why you need a second surgery. Which is what we're gonna play now so here is sound about a two minute clip. From the fancy focus podcast it starts with the body about asking the question to doctor Robert Anderson. About the surgery the first time and then leading in to the second time. Why is it that we see some of these guys come back and they need a follow procedure and oftentimes that gets reported is not go back and that changed a screw or something more substantial so could you explain that a little bit. It's exactly so. At least mine. Won't practice. Finger of the Jones fracture in season. Has been offered a player there can have a screw put in. Who are minimally invasive approach to small incision not violate an explosion aboard and at all. But rather under or scrap paper really graphic guidance we've quote a screw sort of stay inside the bone. And provide that immediate internal support and protection. The risk that middle mostly agree. The usual protocol to have them on crutches for Warner two weeks in a group Warner to reach and allow them to return to learning activities in this state feel good. Now he looked at fairly accelerator program. Our studies have shown that 90% of guys won't heal and stage stage sealed. However there are 10% of the guys that with that serve program many of them not fully heal in the bone. And then after the season what we've been do is grow back and do more formal bone grafting procedures to the fracture itself and that exchange and screw. Which also can be very very successful so four actually at the players to let you go back with this disorder program they're not put himself in the long term horrible risk by doing so. And after the second procedure if that in fact becomes necessary. That. Results from that tend to be. Permanent. Tend to be very very good there's always a chance that pebble may have difficulty dealing. With a net food and water to your window. Once a player gets passed a year and a half two years magellan's fracture that's been. It's been operate and they're usually pretty safe and we don't see any restructures after a period time. There ego doctor Everett and that's great news for CB likens of course things don't have to go exactly as planned in the hope we keep your fingers crossed that he's gonna be okay but. Do you do you listen to that if you listen that you come away thinking really good things about seeming in his. You'll prognosis going forward with this injury that was really good amateur we got the link. To that particular pod casts upon you bell with doctor Anderson on the pain to focus podcast and ESPN I just tweeted at sell sports make you don't follow me. And as of the video that may just reference with the kitten three. Half court shots were to shift gears talk hockey we come back Paul Hamilton on the way next he's in Montreal for the sabres the Canadians tonight we'll have a next under the GR.