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Ball last night and of course. Having heard by now the Buffalo Bills showed pretty well including Lorenzo Alexander. Who wound up winning the team's MVP award for the defense of side of things. Lorenzo after a twenty to thirteen AFC victory wanna with eight tackles one interception two pass break ups. The eight tackles for the most AFC's second most his teammate Zach brown for the bills seven tackles. And Stephon Gilmore the only other interception for the AFC's way to thirteen he wanted to when he a car for winning the MVP award by the way Lorenzo Zach brown is that I feel more. All of them are scheduled to be free agents in March elsewhere in the league John Lynch has been hired by the San Francisco 49ers as their general manager. That's right that John Lynch the guy who just played not too long ago and I'm one of in the TV booty was working as a commentator box sports he's never been as a scout never been a personnel man at all and sat up front office nothing like that. But he did play for Mike Shanahan who now his son Kyle Shanahan is gonna take over. For the NFL arm for the up what matters from the Atlanta Falcons after the suitable as a next head coaching job was to be conducive to school 49ers. General manager watching the super bowl of course she'll watch them run to the Super Bowl if you do on ESPN you'll see Rex Ryan who has been hired. To be a part time analyst for the network for the Super Bowl two teams or their by the way the patriots and the falcons in a Sunday you know who else is there. Our very own John Murphy he's down there right now in Houston. Where have coverage or him beginning tomorrow in the rest of the week here. On the job Murphy showed the NHL all star game was yesterday metropolitan division one a beating. The Pacific division in the round Robin format war to three the final score in that final sabres Palo postal. Had one assist in the contest for the all star game now returns to his team as they will take on the Montreal Canadians tomorrow night at 7:30 PM. Pregame begins at 630 and WGR and its seven here. I finished. Suck but you O'Donnell Jones here back taking your phone calls one more hour left. On the John Murphy show presented by no go with the talking Tom Brady today. That and I agree. That Brady's greatest of all time argument is that the wind doesn't if he loses doesn't that he got the make it this far were to be the best for me. So we're Riddick we agree on that we have a poll we haven't updated the polian to give you the results were now let's take a look at we do little pull out a battery here at John Murphy show on Twitter. In the poll says exactly that if Tarver he wins his that is suitable title. Will you consider him the greatest QB of all time the three options yes no and security is win or lose which is what I voted for. Great poll question when you have this many. This many odd choices that are that close you see right there yes 38 already is win or lose 32. No 30% I've asked people say no to call us up. It seems like the people were saying no are calling up Donald for two basic reasons. Number one they cheat right. Right while the TV can't com note that my candidate and sheet we know and I don't know Terry Bradshaw Otto Graham Dan Marino rose one throwing. Didn't cheat the others the other reason why people call up and say no. The system it's ballot Jack it's the system put another quarterback there he wins doable for Brady on another team. He is not a successful while I do agree that in Belichick and Brady go hand in hand with helping each other. I don't think you to take away from his legacy is the best all time to. I don't I don't mean just because he's with Bill Belichick and I and listen this system does he benefit from that system yeah he does does he benefit from. The routes that those receivers have to run does he benefit from having. A guy like Rob Gronkowski over the last what eight years however long he's been in the league seven years yes he does benefit from stuff like that from. A Wes Welker from you know do we know these guys that are. That are running the routes that he needs him the run these guys that are being in the position that he needs them to be and he benefits from all of that. But he still makes the rules he still. Is that guy that runs that offense that runs that system and having him on the team. Is the reason why they can get other guys to come into new England and take less money I truly believe that it's like LeBron James they can get guys to go. To Cleveland and take less money to play with LeBron James. So I just read a piece on this I agree with you. Who I don't remember who rip who who wrote the piece but they talk to agent. Who they asked what it's like deal Belichick and here's what he set the agent said. Belichick basically says here's the offer yet you can get another union matter money right wanna win. That's our offer that's on a wind come here and and they basically the agent is like oh I kicked in and the guys like I wanna what I wanna Lindsay was there. You know went win when they brought me in the athlete. Do you wanna play with poverty and as a receiver. Wanna play with rated by the bell and play with its like and a couple of guys that he was saying no I don't. That's I'm ready elect. I don't wanna play with that guy and I don't wanna win you know now when you get there you thought process might change. Based on Tuesday army and reaping that it is there and you hear a lot of guys that leave did talk about. Now ought to be free you know all that stuff but the fact of the matter remains they went gains and it has a lot to do with him they cannot I. They can get so many guys that come in there for their take less money especially these veterans that are 89 years in the league now had made some money. But it been in horrible situations are horrible franchises. I wanna win all I want to do now as well and I've made millions of out. All the do now is win at least be able to do it to the super will get to the playoffs itself you know. Com and is the same as LeBron James is that LeBron James the fact you know in and sentinel spurs are the same way they can get guys that come and take less money because you know. They're going to be in the playoffs when I went them Toby this all the time and passes on their oats when I went to New England. And the guy picked yet for me airport on the way from airport to the stadium. He said the meatless. We know every single year we're gonna win. At least eleven or twelve games at least we know we're gonna win the division. So we know we're going to be in the playoffs. Now is the point of giving over the hump and getting to the Super Bowl and winning. The super people you know and when you have that mentality it's because you have that guy in Tom Brady and use that you also have to vote it active that. But for a long time. Or for years for a few years in a row they could do it might they can score points like crazy they didn't have a very strong defense. So they went on Iran where they'd be won a bunch of bulls. And in their defense wasn't as strong defense for a long time right Andy they were getting today AFC championship but they moved to a team that had a strong defense. You know and money. I know I know it out of think about that what your point about coming in didn't less money it's you'll. Be nice to have that here the those actually were like that once and I'll give examples. Back in the ninety's when the bills won a much is it troubles. Chris he'll embrace pop and back to back years signed with the bills and basically because yemen's northern win and Chris Phillips and like I I ought wonders what a suitable as a team that's been super all they ain't helping you to Super Bowl he wanna come to buffalo he later one of having an injury neck injury but. Bright spot because of buffalo and leads the league in sacks with those guys. This was the destination. Back then for the same reason at the quarterback but because of teen music I wanna win I wanna go there that's that's what you're trying to build. We talk about what environments like you cultures like in organizations. That's what you're trying to build that's determined. And and you can you can build that when you have a Tom Brady. When you have right guys right you can build that organization that cultures that franchise. Because you have and you can you it is the the mentality of players man I can go in at least I know I'm going to be in the playoffs because they have convert. I know that you know and and how many quarterbacks throughout the course of the amid throughout the lead. Can you say that about you know is not there's not many how many guys the statement. I'd love to go and play for the giants clearly linemen. I mean I just thought to thought process right Amanda has two Super Bowls but that's not to thought process that is what. You're not thinking yeah I take less money go to New York. Because Eli men right that's not how you think of. I 'cause I'm glad Italy and that are I'm glad to open the door let's talk about it who I wanna. Right now right now the WikiLeaks it's not seen if you could start your team someone his age factors Ingraham but simply just best pure. Quarterbacks right now in disguise that where they are playing football right now. Where who would you rank in the top five QBs in league and the reason I bring this up as I think tomorrow since we're talking Brady today we'll talk a little writes Matt Ryan McGee might be in this discussion. Great to me is number one's totally right is there any doubt who would say breeze not number one in the league that you could could you make an argument that air Rogers is number one. You know people make that argument based on talent like it depends on what to criteria are because he's younger yes it's he's younger and his talent wise who's gonna be better right people with say. Aaron Rodgers can do everything he can make all the rules he can run as well you know and and he's also clutch quarterback you know so. People would argue that Iraq is better Tom Brady but when you just look at what Tom Brady's doing at his age right now to meet. His body of work and what he's still doing makes him the best quarterback in the. I would put a number one out there writers number two Iowa I would have those two. From there it's interesting I I debate act three and four are are interchangeable to me and you know what depending on what happens on Sunday and might change. Because right now. How I am Drew Brees at number three in my list. I have Matt Ryan armour format list now Ryan maybe win Sunday might think differently if he yelled to Brady won a suitable boy. But the other reason why I'll be honest with him I wanna see ya wanna wait another year or once you met Ryan does with outlook out here. I think that's a big deal and I know Brees can do with anybody that he has each on to I know shopping system helps the Belichick's system helps. Pretty right by reason to be great no matter. So amen a key reason number three yeah. I'm a put Matt Ryan at number four. My number five right now is a guy who has not had success in the sleeper team. But to me he's still one of the best in July and adding Andrew Luck in the product to make horrible team around him. Part of the reason why Wrangler X and was written Greeks and was fired they can't build an office of line again he would have surgery second your own how he's gonna go to a season banged up okay. After recovering from surgery and the bills by the way of playing the colts next year. I hope it'll get them early in the season because he might not be fully recovered but when this guy is healthy. If he can hit protection. He's about as good as it gets in this league right now so obviously Brady A-Rod Brees Ryan. Locke we invite your phone calls on this top five quarterbacks right now we've. So for me in my top through the same as yours okay Brady in robberies okay now that. Four and five are a little bit different crime and you know my number six and seven as all these guys behind me in my Hussein. The same ballpark for so for me. At number four right now you've got to go it meant Brian it is because of how he obviously our forums in his mind yet aren't yet so tied for the same as yours but it's the same for me though what Matt Ryan. What would he look like next. And I'm and that's about as likely because there is an odds. You go back to last week against the Packers now Packers defense sucks I mean it really does it they were depleted. But. I just don't recall. Seeing so many wide receivers were wide open. You know and so I think. They were running plays just like crazy plays you know and end of that the Packers could have been. Busting coverages and all that stuff but you know run solely pleasing Gaza's wide open ranked you know appear to be able to hit so many different receivers that means that the often does work. You know as not to see quarterback making great throws like their office and as a quarterback yes you have to find open guys. But. It these guys are wide open right so I wanna see what he does with out that office with out house senate and I'm calling plays for next year because you can't earlier in his career he's still the good quarterback but he had Tony Gonzales he had Roddy White. You know one Roddy White was still in the prime of his career right he really lean on those two guys right now he's thrown it to everybody you know they could take lived on the legal hit somebody else is that the offense is at the play calling. Or is that Matt Ryan right now I just couldn't Ecstasy. And and I do I agree that it depending on what happens because how she and him. Wherever he's been they've they've been pretty good throwing the ball offensively some quarterbacks that really good years and accounts and and also what's been happening was the Shubert Siskel you're gonna see probably more production either passing game because of who passed yet it is and what he brings them so. What happens in that right right now I have a number four he could vault into three. Over breeze or me let's see after another year I don't think I can put that one or two even after next year as it Brady Rodgers continue to do what they do it I can't see them losing those spots but. Block five would you have. At five I have Russell's how I like. I do body of work number one on number two. I like how he's improved as a passer you know like early in his career he can run around like crazy and throw the ball this year he said oh he had to stay in the pocket because of injury and throw the ball and I mean how many top top receivers we knew that about their receivers. Top ten you'd you'd never put it either receivers in the top finale as Jimmy I'm one of the best tight ends but he's been prone to violence is good but I don't hear my amendment in the you know as some on the wide receivers so I have to put him appeared at six and seven I have Andrew Luck in your car right now this though they. Interestingly you know it's funny as cars certainly accomplished more than luck so far right I think well I mean. Actually having on uplifting and played a playoff game because he was hurt so I shouldn't I shouldn't say that but. The argue car has accomplished as much as luck so far short his career. I'm not rate to do that I think if you look this is good to me regardless of what happens and the situation around and I just think he's been hurt so bad because of offensive line. Whereas any Derek Karr has better weapons. Right now they're great protection the office to blindly do and I ash wanna see more and I'm not. I like Derek Carla I need to see a little bit more samples from which is maybe it's hypocritical. I don't know. Because seems like maybe made him I'm giving him less none of credit and give me Angela too much I like Angela I'm not with you on Russell Wilson I think he's a very good quarterback. And he's a very accurate guy 65% completion percentage basically. Last year the embassies and he was like the best quarterback in the league statistically this year he'd a lot of things. Where he was not as mobile as you'd like to see him right. But I thought this year some of his warts came out to I just I didn't think the heat to mean. To put guy in this list ultimately got the top five for me. Has to be a guy that I feel. Can carry a football team I don't know Brussels and I think he needs that running game. He needs that defense initiative now out of the running game and it's only certain points at and that's when he was much less effective. You know attitude I like Russell's is a good quarterback. Is that they did quarterback in his death mean tops in the people would people might even argue that route was yours but. Today it's been rock with burger. At that point that I just don't see I don't put right that's funny that asset and prosper in the top five I don't mean he would at some earlier he would. He's different other open is at home we know that he's very banged up now. You know. They went. They scored only in the title game the like quarter outscored in the playoffs. But that anyone would it be Kansas scored touchdowns without any towards us and I mean what. I can't put on there you know another guy I am a huge Philip Rivers man. Not now not right now I can't put him in the top five I can't even you know I'm in and he's a guy who has who have stats. To back up why you would even argue to have them up here and but for me at his camp Obama he just has career wise she's. Had one of the top five careers of the current guys I mean like. Of the last fifteen years he's prop one of the top quarterbacks or. Just not right now. A how Matt Stafford where's your you know Stafford is top ten. For me that he would be somewhere in that like 89 in certain areas from buy. When you talk about. Carrying a team. You talk to like he can make all the girls know we have cannon of an arm and all that stuff he does. Also how about the office of change within Jim Bob cooter yeah. The receivers he gets right now Elliott Calvin Johnson might need it for a long time you know. And he really lead don't count and did and and now he has steadily as Golden Tate Marvin Jones and fumbled and who is one of the for meat and fumbled one of the best receivers ever. Especially slot receivers averages clutch guys that will catch the ball forty in traffic he has the receivers out there you know so. For me he's top ten back to implement tough I can't right now either we'll see if Bo Ryan Cheektowaga wants to put Stafford missed out like he wants to talk about what's going on Brian. I would go on that we must effort. I think number three. Terry. You know they're running. And then you opera and our part. I mean there are. A million. I don't know. Yet implemented Popeye. But I'll hang up the most. Well I just to allow I think it's it's a fair argument I just I'll tell you why because I think it. It's hard for me to put him behind over breeze or Ryan who and I I think in your luck is better pure quarterback right now I think if you look at just hurt by. What I said things that I talked about and I think I can make an argument for cart to make an argument for Wilson like you said but he was there's three there's lots of guys that are you know put them in front of Brees Brees Ryan in a man that's that's tough. Here's a couple guys are younger. Putter raid on the cusp I think of being in that with the public may be top ten I guess right. Talk about genus Winston. And mark is very Oda deck press got where we put these guys. You know deck press got probably. Output in the same. I'm not Tyson and get it right I'm not top ten but he's about average US he's benefiting from that line just like their cars and you know like that. Offensive line is the best in the league to meet those two teams Dallas and Oakland guests of best off of the currently. And so those quarterbacks are really they can stand back there it is throw it around and me he has very good weapons he has Dez Bryant. But the rest of receivers out there get it done mate they played their role you know and so and he benefits from a great running game and no doubt you know and there are some backs that they have so. For me he's definitely not in the top ten yet I think that he. He really if you can continue to do these Dylan he will be the top and very very soon Davis wants him to me. Is that guy he's as a winner Mike he's knocking on the door he's knocking on his knocking on the delicate you know he has he has. Mike Williams down there and my Williams wanted to best receivers in the game. But. I'm in my evidence my parents are at Evans he had a my body as we had a government to the army has Mike Evans. But what else does have down you know like he's he's doing a lot released run around make him please himself. He's a little too high an interception count for me because he's a gunslinger he's gonna take a lot of chances. But I do love his make up I like I really like his talent and the ease at a going to be a very very good quarterback going forward. In the meantime though the other guy came in with him obviously is markets very Oda. He's totally the opposite the way he takes care of the Baltimore. Doesn't everything's he can movie can run we've seen that. A guy that I did not think was gonna have the success he had in the NFL. Lot of times you don't see those guys translate from those produces on these super Smart and they really got a nice job with him down there bring him along America's Beriault does a guy I think that. I think we have to talk about it it back on the Doris as our top ten if not you know in their already. When you talk about the future of big gains. And young quarterbacks. Who do you think in five to ten years from now we say is that no one Quebec and I think it's either going to be. Mary order or Winston I think it's going to be one of those those in Europe Latin. Well it's five years luckily number one sorry luckily number one. And those two will come in at 23 somewhere I think. Here's the problem with luck I think that's the case of the to protect them mean. I don't know what is an opportunity like this might fall off beat them because he's throw the also much he can drill every time he does. You know Seattle the same way with Russell right right they put so much emphasis on we need to have a strong defense tactic car to write he had. You know that we need to have a strong defense with Russell Wilson. With oil with Seattle that they don't put anything into an offensive line because they know that Russell will get throwing out a run around and make girls. You can't do that you're going to shorten. His career if he keeps on getting hit in getting injured. You have to put some money into your offensive line and protect. Here franchise quarterback a guy who everyone sees as a franchise quarterback who can be here for the next 101215. Years. And you don't wanna put an offer to line around them like they. It's amazing and they did draft a center number one last year with the they have a lot of work to be done that offensive line. You know they did better running game but they're they're asking Angela to do a lot and I would do I would ask me do a lot of but. You know we you see in Dallas for the for a for a few years Dallas drafted off on the monitor in the first round. And everybody's like yeah I remember talking to Dallas fans and I we keep taken linemen. And now what it's paid off for them they have the best offensive line in the game. And then you end up finding a quarterback in the fourth round back in step in rightfully that's right. And you know he's a good quarterback but he's benefiting from you having a very strong offensive line. No doubt 803055888550. To 550. As you asked that question I I answered too quickly I shouldn't it because our car will be up there to rate luckily up there burial will be up there Winston will be up there. Where's our guy Tyrod Taylor were C. Man I'm eighteen top fifteen is the bottom half. I think I think Tyrod Taylor has he had a lot of room to grow obviously the passing and we know that. I think. He is a guy that has to have receivers around he has that have played it is at this point in his career right now. He has to have the guys around him has agreed that he trusted make the plays he is not bad guy attitude and say he can carry a team and he can throw to anybody. You know he he can throw to guys that you picking up off the street. He's not that guy right now you know so cute he'd grow into that guy maybe with some more experience but right now you know you're talking about five to ten years from now. I think. He'll older it's of these guys though that we don't know about is infinitely handled it seven years and suddenly Sony are you still have six is obvious and it's your coming up rise though. Is still considered young. He's about primary now he's primary audience as evidence of the prime. So when you talk about a guy plot is really relaxed about his prime now he's he's it's that it was prime the other guys are just about every Saturday haven't even sniff the it's amazing where it all I know line. You know Mobile, Alabama offered. Now Tyrod a guy who is really should be in his prime but it's nowhere near the prime of passing game that you need right when you talk about. DD two you know taken a team to the Super Bowl you have to be able to throw the ball so I are you do. Now for me I still like to see you and I've had fans actually call up and in light is let me have it about this they say that I'd. And I guess. People feel right. I don't like tyrants. I think parents Joseph still be on this roster because there's nobody else out there. I mean you can draft a guy but you still need to have him here he's a guy that will help you win games right now. Mikey was if you put receivers receivers around him he why you win games you write without him I think he will also help you why you groom another guy. Well here's an accident that you just said the same thing so I turn it but I've always about it is. If everything around him that all the circumstances are right you can you can be very successful or good running game. All of it like to that the great she's not protected enough to the news. But the argument the defense especially if you have those two things you can be very successful. The issue for me in Buffalo News. I want we want we should all want. A quarterback lead going into the game even if those things are great you can win because of the quarterback. Because that's what. These top five guys do but it's a Brady and Rodgers and Brees and Ryan locked in Wilson and car right. That's I think so much Wilson united for disagree but but but. I think we all agree that he's proven it's obviously what he's done so far he can take over game at. They overdo it when you need him to trial and he can do. Any of these guys can do more with less. That's rest that you need a quarterback that can do more with less you don't need of the flip around I'll need a guy that can do that came back can't do. More with less I don't need a guy that needs more to be able to do more you know because that's not your friend does cornerback he franchise guy. Is that guy that can lift the team who like you said going to a game you know this jacket carries even though these receivers hurt this guy who carries the. Let me to get timeout because we come back we get a lot of calls on one guy we have not mentioned yet and I feel badly Ramallah he is definitely top ten to be. But I don't let my top five and I have to explain why I don't you can as well we come back here on the jumper to show. Dow Jones I. We that was more of that John Murphy GO. I welcome back the job Murphy showed Dow Jones here with me south of Fazio. So Donna I started this conversation that we kind of morphed it it's become a frequent conversations my Beasley right actually does that make her move Marlon. Violence he would. Over Russell's. I wouldn't ask you out I would I would have been over us wasn't too I am not. Like Russell Wilson a lot of its idol that he can carry football teams he has at times in his career guys of the would consistently has it but. Because I don't go to a game that you like Brussels. Have been electing you think okay we now it's more because Antonio. At this point to accurately counted him I mean that's why now the report to their careers now there is a guy. We have not mention that I feel really bad equipment is super and he recently won MVP title rock from loch wanna tell us all about well. Poor we are not mentioning this guy's name who is it run to policy when you talk about. I'm right where would you have Camden and I'll explain why he's not my top five. But I want you to tell me about what you think about. That and we think about. I you don't really good I didn't forget what he'd do it I'm not forgetting and everything. I'm not forgetting how to tell you why is not my top five erratic. Cam Newton had one incredible. Off the charts amazing season which he deserved the NFL MVP. The other five years of his career. Have been good maybe even very that a couple times he has never been consistent enough for me to include I'll tell you what I just look at the stats. In six years in this league. One time one time he's completed over 60% of his passes usually in the fifties and his touchdown interception ratio. Other than that and the PCs and that he take that away which I know you can't do that it took away his MVP season. His TDs interceptions one a one to 68 he's never been consistent enough for me to put in and I think I soured because of this. Year and right now are we talking about just passing. That's you and learning anything you wanna put but I I think it trumps everything with core I mean is does it with quarterbacks I think can. Because I mean not listen I don't forget I think it was great it was incredible last year deserved a BP but he was definitely incredibly look at a stance that the anyway it's this is outgrown this first year he was 60%. Completion and in 2013. He was 61% even laxity was home the 59%. 52 this year I mean. You look at it again touchdown interception racial let's look at artist's career. 21 to seventeen is rookie or nice for a game and take that right but you figure got to improve upon that is once you go they had nineteen to twelve. The 24 to thirteen which an ass and a which is which is pretty good. Nice they went regressed again eighteen to twelve TD interception that he had a phenomenal year 35 intent and then this year 1914. I just don't see the numbers that add up to meet. Be that consistent title player that I can put in the top five like I do with Brady A-Rod breeze even Ryan now I think and then Andrew Luck. Now when you have these quarterbacks that can run better that dual threat mobile tightly guys does that change where there's stat lines should be. Mike as far as throwing the ball so yeah I mean these guys don't have to go over 4000 yards 5000 yards passing because they're running the ball being effective that way as if. Date him there it's a bomb and put them in my top tier of quarterbacks. Passing means more than anything but I I think guys like Russell Wilson maybe that's why discount Wilson a little bit from you he has the running which is part of the arsenal. Guys like Tyrod guys like Russell Wilson guys who. Really also rely on the running game to be a part of their big quarterback make up. I don't put in the top five because I need the quarterback throw the ball downfield when the chips are down I need it total that's why for me. But it that I targets a different game for those guys for sure. As for me even going back to when we talked about Russell Wilson. And value says you know going to a game. For me going into the game this year when that the bills were about to play the Seahawks on them Monday night game. One of the things that I thought about and I know a lot of people around an immediate thought about was. Russell Wilson is not the same rusty right now right 'cause he's hurt. Right so when you have that oppresses in my enemy he's definitely. People if they can about him being able to do what he can do throwing and running. When he's healthy. You know also that might not which put him in the top five in your opinion or anybody's opinion. But I mean he is a thought that's like man we got to do a Russell Wilson meaning. Run were no remedy no doubt about that no doubt about some agency conversation on this that's got to Jonathan. In all the in the stock Jonathan now which got somebody. And it hit it out. Bill it now don't care or are tailored I agree I mean you don't implement them all bought out. I think he'd go to court it showed you how I did think that they'll should keep our it would take you got the quarterback toll violate the net debt preferably that I'm great. Defied a court that we draft. Okay thanks a lot and I. Here's what I'll say about that. I think that's kinda like. I don't even know what example when he used when you say try to find one leader in the draft it's so hard to do that you can keep drafting all you want. You what's gonna have only keep drafting quarterbacks never but he says keep traffic court matches to problems with that. Can and what I think what they mean making drafting draft like two or three year. Well number one you are other positions you need and yeah I mean you're missing out on players and there's guys the Unita positions actually play the game that need to be good players. That you need to win but the other issue I have with that is. If you keep bring you more more quarterbacks every year when they actually get a chance to play to assert themselves to show that they're they got right there's only certain my practice and they can actually play. Exactly and by the way late in the draft to say I won late that's just I mean and you just hope that's. That's crossing your fingers and. Hope right now do you think that early drafts different and today's NFL. We are all affected. I guess negatively by these Dak pressed aspect come out or Cam Newton north RG three that come out until at the first year. And everybody thinks I agree I can't we find a quarter it back to come out until this first year when traditionally. You have to develop quarterbacks like you have to develop these guys into what they are. You know five teen years in two B a career these guys don't just start out. I mean it happens sometimes. But more than not that they are not starting out the star quarterbacks that there are all the time like that. You know 2011 QB affect you just mentioned that right with block. And with a RG three these guys to Russell Wilson comes in. You know 2011 or twelve to when he was right tapper nick right away it's plays sets the bar high that Kirk cousins comes in for RG three of them. Yeah some of these guys burst on the scene in the and I agree with you. It changed. I don't think just means apparently that change the dynamic of team the expectation rights and owners put heat on GM to find the guy who can play right now right. In any kit up charge. When you knew your job it. I mean we we just lost the Super Bowl how many quarterbacks even a guy that won the MVP you're not gonna say well this guy's a short first round it. From cow I mean come to know these quarterbacks in Matt and it's because for meat. The development quarterbacks on the college level in the system that they're playing and does not translate into the NFL game. And so when these guys get to the NFL. They have to have true stars around them. Further in the burst on the scene early like a deck press got don't get me wrong Dak is a good quarterback. But he's benefiting from having that offensive line is benefiting from having his as you're calling it an Ezekiel Elliott you know he's benefiting from having. That team around him. And it's all good. But when you talk about drafting quarterbacks every single year what about the rest of the team you know win. Draft the rest of the team get a team around these guys and then when there is a quarterback active volunteer lat who you see as this guy right here's a guy. I I don't believe in reaching for quarterbacks I'd. I I think the the theory about court in theory it's it it works in theory just keep grafted on in this you bring it works and there of course because the more shot to get attic. More change at the finalist in practice it doesn't work like that you just can't do it McCain it's it's it's impractical to actually put that plan into motion. I mean to sound and I were talking about this over the last. The last necessity three or four drafts how many quarterbacks have been drafted that you can say. To this day. This guy is the franchise quarterback of this team move forward he will be here for the next fifteen years and when a suitable for the there aren't many quarterbacks and to say that about that have been drafted in the last three or four years and it shows you where quarterbacks aren't palace today. Mean now Derek Carr looks like could be that guy he could be that guy right and he may even then he sometimes your questions near the oil actually can be the guy. You don't know he's gonna be the guy lets you would Jerry muffle thinks Jerry higher on the jar Murphy show what's up. Say hi in our home I'll watch it deplorable yesterday completely out of order. And it's equally due the ritual where Angela injured when in doubt bill. And Kirk couldn't come out of nowhere. Districts to all pro and both Welker caught. Yesterday. Which more accurate all the Ira. Port belt they are despite they'll. Well let me it is such as. And yet here's here's the question I think what you're art art the question is Gerri with the bills be a better team with Kirk cousins under center than there were Tyrod Taylor right yeah. Everything else being equal it's a tough question for me I put them very equal. They're both different types of guys different types of games but I do think I will say I do think they would have a better chance to win football ease with Kirk because. In this league you have to be able to throw. Better than what Tyrod Taylor does at least what he's demonstrate so far passing wise however I think the overall body because you can't take away to a tyrant as in the running game as Donald said. I think they're about even where I would rank them. But it may be given the circumstances the bills have they would have had a better chance to win more games the last two years of Kirk was the quarterback in Tyrod. It'd create yeah well see where else that goes it was just talking about these quarterbacks don't come available. It you know they don't. Like when you have a guy like Kirk cousins you can see like this guy connects is is a good quarterback and you can see him being that I'm moving forward. Human epic outdoor. If this doesn't make sense why would you let him go yet they might do that but so they might you know I. As a what does that tell you. I don't know. He's he still has his moments are watching Elton not a not a point four minority or Garrett which what he cost a franchise yeah. But overall I mean he seems they can make every throw he seems like. He still he's putting up consistent numbers last couple years. If the bills had Kirk cousins on the roster last two years I think they might win a couple more teams I don't think it's marginally different. Now as he is he Kirk cousins benefited from having DeSean Jackson theater arsenal is the receivers that they had to Jordan read out to Jordan -- to think they you know like I mean he has guys around him that me please that'd been dormant for some years in the league you know that he could just throw the ball doesn't doesn't have seen running in the bills that doesn't have the same running here and that running backs in the running game at times but. Tyrod Taylor they have benefited from a really nice running game to help him if if I was. A Gian. For me defense is everything like you have to have a strong defense right the patriots right now. Everybody talks about the Patriots offense Tom Brady we're talking about Tom Brady all day and how great Tom Brady's. People overlook. Their defense and their defense being the number one defense in the league. You know scoring defense and never write the number one scoring defense in the league when you have the number one scoring defense. That means you're not allowing teams score so Tom Brady doesn't have to put up forty points we know he will. When you have a defense like that even the years that. But I Italy's my choice I give you choice. To have one of these five guys in your list ranked the top and your list and top five guy. Or top five defense a top five beef which you take it. You UW to the top five quarterback I'm taking the quarterback you've done that they quarter because slowed to a degree I at quarterback the agreement. Right right me they don't have that defense and the Iraq site we'll take time out great discussion here. Welcome back it is a couple of things that John Murphy show itself Roger O'Donnell jokes here and we hear chemistry. Things he's not John Murphy show on buffalo. And now what have we learned from today's show. What have we learned presented by advanced alarm providing question nearest homes and businesses with the finest security home theater and the preferred alarm in home theater provider. Of the Buffalo Bills what we learned today first was from COLT Anderson recently reassigned by the team. On the bills coaches helping his decision to resign here with the bills. It was a lot of work on your decision. Well not only that they keep any of the that they hired. I have familiar with he was literacy coordinator Billy out and it. And we have a couple other guys. Perhaps from Minnesota my Decourt it was less straight so there's just there's no rational system. We are not couple there's been hired them on the coaches so. I'm definitely looking forward to that this season and you know the guys they hire. They're right the right guys who. I'm looking forward to this offseason program get young. That is goaltenders that we heard from him and at 1 o'clock earlier today and then around 145 we heard from Lorenzo Alexander we learned that him. Is it his teammates performance in the pro ball he credited the lots of them he was the MVP. I'll probably get ready red they think that what they had to play Wales. You know that we get ready for what it is our cat is freaked pregame speeches it's prices have been spotted that it does not outweigh. Speech Obama. They don't want I thought where are thought every who beat you up for the guys I think a lot of guys. To start will be activated. What it's got a pretty good product this book he had. Or bubble here. What else have we learned today Donna we learned that we had a pretty good Twitter poll going on at John Murphy ratio because we asked you today if Tom Brady wins his fifth Super Bowl. We've considered the greatest QB of all time. The final results are meanwhile selection illegally is they'll vote there's been 19100 votes so we appreciate it but he came along C screen there. 37%. Of you said yes he will be. 33%. It adds up to seventy by the way say RD is that means that either he already is or will be with a fifth 70% of you say. No not well you know even with a win 30%. As it is here in buffalo people don't like them. And so like Tom Brady are going to be degraded out here hobbies do you instead of on the it's over those same those same 30% was the vote no one tents and no doubt about it. They think this is fun today. Look forward to next two weeks with Merck is gonna be in Houston and he is there now actual Hadley just arriving this afternoon. We'll hear from him tomorrow and throughout the week here on. The John Murphy show will be live from radio row at Super Bowl gently that is suitable LI which is 51 of course we'll hear from him tomorrow in the meantime thanks a lot. 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