Feb 14, 2017|
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It's much over the bulldogs. Picker upper to. Just goes out side of the net wow. Work your. Donna it is. Voted yes sorry it to Mike she opened all Claudia got these arm to. And. And a Bulldog. I guess I thought. Act alone. Mark yeah but I love skiing. Hard to believe but it's fun time at all okay it's Mike Hsu put the bulldogs. Don WGR. Sports Radio 515. Well. I mean it's usually not a matter of us looking through the NHL newswire for a topic cut. But. How about vests. Austin fires it's coach and Montreal says okay thank you. Like you know it's a fourth line center on waivers or even less than that like its is nothing its affairs he moved. It's a finishing move your body caught soon whoever he is because. You know we made a traitor somethings have bee's a I'm sick of this guy and caught them and and you're like thanks great all taken. You don't have to actually deal with people you just make that transaction on your phone. This low. On Valentine's Day it's been pointed out. Eight years almost to the days that this happened to carrion in Pittsburgh it was the fifteenth of that worry when he got canned replaced by Jim bile move by the waves. In Pittsburg. They weren't in first place by the way when that happened. I don't think they were even a playoff spot when that happened in the and they got hot and rolled all the way in one cup that year. But. It's going to be we're like around Valentine's Day to have this happen again I mean I don't coaching news. You heard before and all that kind of stuff but Scutaro weird. First place team and all too I wonder if he sensed that. I wonder if Michelle Terry and reacted to Boston firing Claude Julien as cause for concern now. Law all. Well they did play on Sunday. And I'm seeing some reporting by some Canadian. Hockey media that that's when the brewers still run for one the Bruins but usually the Canadians asked the Bruins for permission on Sunday. To talk to you to do and nobody had that no. All quiet. So Boston didn't even leak that right. Which should go to just took. Right embarrass my tell it like sort of tweak Montreal. This sure you can talk to the coach Rios fired but a Little League that they didn't do that don't know yet casinos are gonna actually fire him. Your employer your guy and they make a move on Julian hire him. And you'd be creating some you know instability in your rival Baidu and I think but no yeah that didn't get out. And they've. That's what it's crazy crazy thing to do yeah I think about that for a second. That. The Canadians have to ask for permission that seems right. They have to ask for permission which weird because he's fired but they still have to do that. So they do and they get it and the Bruins could've just leaked it to anybody. Whoever it is that they think Bob McKenzie year somebody like whoever does that is the best known information gatherer in the sport. I do think that those guys almost get handed everything that they that they have but you know I'm sure there's a lot that they dig up to. And so Bob McCann let's just pick him not mean anything like putted about trying to differentiate MacKenzie from someone else like him but. Let's say Bob McKenzie has this morning or yesterday. That the Canadians have asked for permission to talk to Claude Julian. What happened what if anything happens from that like the Canadians would probably resented probably assume that somebody talked how many people on the Bruins organization would have known. And then. What can the Canadians do about it. Like be mad at the Bruins they get recruitment they could deny it if they want. I assume that if someone from. Outside their own organization. Which you know again you would know I think if you're at the top of Montreal organization how many people had knowledge of your request. Good even without you might be positive that someone not in your own postage and tell no that's right Bob McKenzie that's right so. But either way I mean it I could see boss of me motivated to get it out there. But they didn't and this one to its new Montreal coach. Both of these teams bet that it really matters for Boston and they fired Julia and they've won I think three games since and there are better off all week I think I asked. Half an hour ago when do they like that and they don't play again this regular season and nor do either of these teams play until the weekend or poll. I'm their bye weeks. Montreal and Boston sold no hockey for them and they played Sunday in and he was in Montreal. And there are off until I think Saturday Montreal plays in Boston plays on Sunday boisterous you are awful. What do you think the average Canadians fan thinks. That this is great like. How do we even relate. It having been so long since either of our team was any good now Claude Julien is the coach of the Bruins this this point about the story not being leaked my eight. Reflect that there's just little or no animosity between the organizations the fan base would have some. They go back a long time and they're there remember an important recent playoff rounds between the team was Montreal Boston. Is you grow up a Faneuil one you're gonna hate the other. So offense would still have this Julian was your coach and if you're old enough maybe it was weird. When he especially being French Canadian he went to coach. The Bruins in 2010. Was or 2007 you're right it is they want it who doesn't. So. He's your coach your Canadians fan right now. He's the course the Canadians until January of 06. Venues fired them all that season. And the next year he's the Bruins coach. And soul like would you. Neither team was that good then that was the sabres were good and the senators. So would you like present him or would you be jealous like what would that be if anything to me goes on. And your your years with him as your coach give further away. As Boston rises to power any wins the Stanley Cup for Boston which probably you hate. Not only of you not won the Stanley Cup since 93. Euro country has won the Stanley cups is 93. So. You hate that now Boston is back Boston I hated it because I like the Boston what beliefs was decades since they'd want it and now that a change. The Boston win with Claude Julien and then they go to the finals again and their consistently at least pretty good if not really good. And then he gets fired. Are you happy. That gets fired or you are you mocking the Bruins for that what are you doing there then and and in all of you people would've said. We should go get him back he's excellent but you could have said that but it was it would have been and so. Put it almost unheard of is almost unheard of that a team makes this move like this right. So one guys in the bars we really could go Gary Claude the other guys like are you kidding. So. Then they do it. I know I've just laid Alec a lot of stuff but if you're the Montreal fan in this scenario. You're shocked probably. Are you excited are you happy. Yet if you don't it's funny how how much do you risk. At what he did with Boston I mean you should he he won he wanna call got the finals. Again. That is to be respected I I think what might temper Montreal fans enthusiasm is that there wasn't. They weren't great when he was their coach. Mean if they don't they played eleven playoff games and lost seven album so is there so there's no run there there's nothing there's no post season success. And it's such a short amount of time what you're shot pat burns who went right Boston after we got my true all right it's it's just he was just a guy a yeah he almost gets lost in the shuffle you know you're changing coaches there as much on his we have. Now with the bills I mean there could Kirk the running all too. That. Pat burns is there for me 88 to 92. After that it's every three years. At at most. It's every three years right on through. Tomb now. Mean Terri and is 2012 the 2017 that's the longest run. Anybody and there's the mayor is in there jock Laperriere is in their twelve blazes there being yours in the air terror in twice Julien. Dean carbon all Dini again Jacques mart and rainy Connie worth I mean they have been just churning guys out. So by Claude Julien might just be like one of those guys be maybe Dick Jauron. Do you don't think to a Canadian affiliates or whatever we didn't really win anything with him. But. Mean the fact that he wanted to ask here we Dick Jauron leaves your Eagles and wins a Super Bowl gets to another one. I think it's a different conversation we're talking about it if he's coming back here. It's just it's just different shade so yeah I think you should be excited what are the sabres are gonna. IBI I'd be excited. I would be excited. I I think they've got an issue. You know that and the audience has been paying attention knows that you know what's not to me. Like I had a crisis stage but if if they wanted to do something that would be considered an upgrade. I would respect it I mean I really want I would respect it. Soul you know there's a reason why when Hitchcock was available in when he got fired you know a couple of weeks ago that I thought. And pick ups Ken Hitchcock's couple weeks just speak duck but it was worth. Conversation. So Claude Julien certainly qualifies as an act if not more. Well you know I feel toward Montreal a feel a little bit I admire you. Montreal because this is for this is really brave like it's harsh on this other guys Terry and but it's a it's a very courageous thing like they're just. We think he's better so were going to him like that is a gutsy move in the kind of thing that spans long from their teams. I don't know maybe I'm just more bleeding heart about this may have to really think about the slow with racks would files might just feel like I I feel. I think move. I'm thinking out loud really here aghast. I think my attitude about them and their their players. And their being employed here is more corporate. Feel like I am more of a corporate. And a tutor viewpoint on this and I've mentioned this before. I just I get I get stopped by hole much money either role and the idea of firing them with they're still being owed. 1015 million dollars or more but that's incredible to me. I don't like all owing you five box. Just the idea that you could sit deterred the goal would. Over and over again he's got it with players he's got to win assistant coaches he might have with with Darcy Revere like I don't always got to with managers. He's at least been there. Paying these guys after he's let them gul. And I I don't know anything from that so I think about like we sit here. And it's him it's it's Thanksgiving and whom should the bills or what the bills player Rex Ryan Mike. No the and I say no. Bite my first thing on my list the comes to mind is the two leaders say storm fifteen million dollar talking to fire but. If it really is and I think we noted it is. With due respect so little money. Relatively speaking to these to these owners. If if that's even fair to like make it about. Then. Dare I say what's the difference. And to me you like I can't I can't grasp. That kind of money as what's the difference yeah. I never I never it's interesting that you. You know that that and I noticed bumps in your review all these years that that that there was any in recent history. Paying guys to not work for you. Is like it's a hurdle for you. I I don't I don't ever see it. I just think it's big what sports but I've got a big boy owner I've got deep pockets and this is what teams do now you don't want to either. Acquire a reputation. For being. You eloquently wild you know looking on rural credible. But you'd George Steinbrenner but he understood it can roll through these people almost irresponsibly so. I only you want that but. Yeah I generally these I I like when this was what always. Always but for a long enough time anyway would Darcy. When he was running the sabres I felt tripped him he just he just you'd just so conservative. And waited. And hoped problems would correct themselves. And that bat during the last four years of his time here I mean that's just unravel him. I think no nothing got fixed it just everything just got worse the point where it was just under to start trading I'll spare parts or all departure main ports. So that if Tim Murray. Word two goal two missiles the Hitchcock conversation for a couple weeks ago he if you go to church to go when one of these guys gets fired and say. Hey you know not from off. I think we could be better if we did this here's what I've got a problem he might be reluctant to do that because he you know. He was involved in vials were coming here of course it was. In item. Think much like football team that the group was signed off on it and I wouldn't assume the Claude Julien would come okay this teams and last their first writer of the Montreal Canadians and your maybe you don't maybe you'll get Ken Hitchcock took correct Buffalo Sabres brightly in his career that you'd have to. Maybe have done some work on that even consider bringing it up to your daughter but either way. A I would respect the hell out of the general manager who goes to his owner and says we can get better this way we should we we should consider this would you consider this. And you know you might be putting yourself at risk doing that but. You know you're also mum on the lifetime contract either mean at some point Jimmer he might feel some heat for her you know continuing to miss the playoffs. So you think he picked a bit bigger and actually had a that'll happen at some point. So I mean I would I would have loved. Others say I would love the people there right now the sabres coach they're tracking towards whatever small problem you're starting to hear about publicly. There might be in that rumors of pertains to buying in on the coach's system I think that's only gonna get worse as the results don't. Improve. 8030550. Montreal fires Michelle Terry and hires Claude Julien who just been fired by Boston the other day it's incredible thinking about. A lot a lot of ways to think about this that are really interest thing another one would be Julian getting the call from the Canadians like we wanna talk to you you just beat. Compare it. Quickly what we heard about it in my ready to go do that amendment was he bracing for that was he expecting hoping to get a call would would he have gone to anybody. Or did have to be someone like this a first place team. I mean how many times what a first place team want a new coach in the middle of a season especially with. Lou Amarillo load up being in charge the doubles anymore. Right I'll within bigger that's Julie don't know if only Lowell was still he's Toronto. Only that that's really my only. Hope so. Well there is there is this an important in my character with the news has pointed this out he had the exact record amino Montreal got off to a really start. Thirteen one and one was their start. So and there are nerve like. They're not good since the start and start counts of course believe they've they've built up. A lot of credit and it's time. But middling since then sold. If you think about it like that it makes a little more sense but I'm still not colony I would seem content over I mean no first place first place. He you know however you got there you go out there about thirteen when one goes out he was the cold when they did that you know so. Build up a lead you'd understand it seemed kind of taken their foot off the gas the long season and don't worry will give you a little wind in the form your middle of march Jon and will will be ready to go. I'm not shatters and assure their form was actually ever any different. Media laws I don't have that in mind again have to look but if you're like Montreal might have been the same team they had a couple big injuries to. No sir I don't give this time in Gallagher tasks that he still orders to do eat and we missed record is what they care about. Record is what cost Julian Boston. Not some smarty in the front office going you realize that really we just have a backup goalie problem not a not a hockey problem. They didn't get there as easy as that might abandon look at they didn't get there. And Motorola what the Canadians are thinking maybe it's wins and losses or maybe it's more. You know bull deeper than that. Just wild. Like if that it happened here. I would not have like ice will we talk the yesterday right won't what would happen next year I mean if they're not go underwent when might we get to a point where people expect files to be in trouble with the sabres aren't better. I took yesterday about that idea. That I wouldn't have opposed it. And I have to say that if it happened right now I wouldn't oppose it. And I'm just always distracted by how much it costs to do that and I think you know with first the thing about racks in the bills. I think it makes you look. Less van well organized. But there is a point where it's too soon right. Mohawk like if you fired. Files mama say. And a five year contract about halfway through the first year you went this is going well you're fired. That's still a lot of money to pay you look common tactic so you're also tried it's also up to you to decide when is it. When is it possible and with the goal is Rex is a precedent. Rex was before a year to one a five year deal like that that is so impressive but this isn't going well enough for me yet. And I am not afraid of of canning you. So we did. And so no. With him with with Terry. With and you think about piles muck you can't say that he wouldn't do it right because Rex is him doing it on the same timeline. I think gum. If if if they were already having conversations. And I guess I wanna assume that they would be. You know hey what's wrong Ilya maybe circle just settles for Jack Bogle missed when he won games and were five or six points behind Toronto all. And there are a playoff spot and so would we be if Jack played all these games. And that's the end of the you don't spent you don't keep turning stones over trying to find answers for what's ailing you because you're willing and and the goal seen enough of a fan. As I say you're wrong if you're a fan you bought and Michael's injury as the main culprit I think I would too. But you might wanna keep looking anyway because you own it as opposed to just settling for. That's why there's my explanation. So if if they that they weren't already talking about whether. And they I mean ownership and timber. Is. Is there a problem what what is is is the colts getting most out of the team that kind of thing. What Robin Leonard did on Sunday night. Should have pushed that conversation forward we get it if it weren't happening already I would think it would be happening now what Terry cool wood out when I've listened to radio repay. Or go eight templates and here is terrible problem here Google might think he can't get out of there his own way. The way these they're going economic and other ones I got another one brother coached the right let's do this again right. I felt like when he took over he was just gonna stay cool and he established that by how we treated Lindy. Condemns gonna I feel like you have good people are gonna hang in there ends. That was. Six years ago almost of the day when he bought the sabres Lindy Ralston. Nolan. Piles money's on his fourth coach and we're talking about a fifth. Some of us now and he bought the bills and he's on his third coach in three years. He's on seven coaches in nine years with these two teams. As the guy who a who introduced himself as patience and stability. But I'm not questioning that like I I didn't question him when he said that. Because I thought it sort of fit with how we sounded an acting. But oh my goodness it's fields and I don't hear about these teams like not go that way at all arguably the players I mean I would be. One help what track thereon. Your calls it a moment much over the bulldogs. Monster move in the NHL this is WG York. There is some hot hot fire coming out of the Montreal Canadians right now and caught on there and there aren't the same team they were last year when in us Carey Price and it was like all law Carey Price is not there at. Now this year we have injuries we are not. Listen there is a message that is not being sent across Tennessee that you held variant is not they look. He coached against me in juniors in the American League and National Hockey League I think that he's one of those that is very very short term type coach 212 guerrilla type after 34 years. You've dad has sold them out then you throw them out and you don't listen in the math is not there. This and it's got a funny because now closed Julia is available. We'll Julie in speaks French and English and Keyon go in. Maybe he had to go somewhere else this intelligently and with ocean Montreal before. This morning on WGR you would have heard a short conversation vet. About almost about this afraid and for the most part about this replacing. Michelle Terry and with Claude Julien I didn't know of any speculation that that no one is bound to happen and it did happen I heard about. Through Twitter that that conversation and happened in brightness trekked down so there's the evidence of what I was hearing on Twitter but I did not hear that this morning myself. As it happened and yet boss when. Like a big popular governor screams like Claude Julien is the cold to the model there is like is this act is this for real. Why what just happened okay it's what a power move by Montreal taking Boston's coach. With a first place record. While what do the sabres have done it. I would not I was sort of sounded like is that Andrew Peters there out of sort of like him well. Like we released a really gonna do that mean you're too we just laid out like how we think about this and we would like to you know you think about an 8030550. The sabres play tonight in Ottawa pre game in just under an hour. Tom is next on WG Argo had time. Bigger than ever take a wreck our good evening. Oh. I think that the US can cook about organic. I don't think I don't wanna get everybody well up you know I want him Speedo they got. To media what your governor. A included oracle many years. And watch him this neighbors. I don't put a hold you guys don't let a little bolder and more misguided boom in the cold. He's not a great coach. OK so what do you see what are you about to say the premier premier premier in particular no matter what you're up. Well like it thinks I'm like no matter what coach they have. Like this or something in the Jersey that means they won't play as as one. I don't know I don't of course don't think that but among its earlier this team does this team looks. Like I mean wrote a letter saying they go often do their own things so like that's good for me. Right I think they've got they mean talk about it on all here for a couple of weeks now I think they've got an issue like this would not have been. If one day I'm getting ready to come to work and like I whenever it's 10 in the morning and I look at Twitter and there's chatter about. The sabres potentially making it change or are just give you one day in what could happen on my drive and I'm not gonna save I'll be shocked. The the signs are there that the only question is just how serious. Their taking the signs right now and whether Tim Murray would prefer. To. Ride it out because he thinks he's got a good coach. And he's got a young team and it's growing pains and I'll learn how to play for this guy. And it'll come together. And did the roster will be improve I mean you said yesterday a couple of puck moving defenseman and helped give you an identity and like that that might be right to try Uga coach Wright what right a lot of things would would come together and change. It if there was some upgrade of personnel so to me it's not like they have to make a move. What it's not going to be a surprise to me if it happens because there's no rumbling and has been for a while that. I think the GM might. Consider it to be a problem. That's all notebook to me what Robin Leonard did on Sunday night was shine a light on. And once that happens you know you you're always gonna have I think you had fans last year was going to be a faction of fans and you have. Access to them they have access to you through social media that are gonna be particle particle particle particle for the guys. It's always going to be there it as soon as the guy takes the job. Because you already did like him in Pittsburg and think he broad city Crosby's coattails well you have an opinion and if he is gonna get a year. And you're gonna see it but. So that that doesn't mean like that you you have to do it right away. But. I think what Robin Leonard did was lend credibility to fans who are thinking that way or have been thinking that way because he said flat out play. The guys aren't buying it. In so many words as reset. And that's the biggest short of the cortex. Is to get everybody to believe that what he's telling you to do. Man to man up now on the roster first quarter report liner is this is a good plan this is how we are going to have success. And if I've got 1257. Guys came and role players whatever that are just. Not dial in. That's gonna have to get fixed in one way or another one way is for it's just iron itself out. And your roster improves your results change and whatever. You know moon whatever discomfort there is on that what disorders subsides. Or you change the culture but those are the two ways that that its next. Hopefully be up all right that's right you could just put the reason maybe you don't do it. As soon as you sense that bearers rumbling is because you're empowering the budget on players in the thinking whenever it gets tough with the coach will just change about. And I would understand Marie wanting to not. You know on leash that. Power within such a young teams they'll. And mobile's my that I don't say I think is disappointing but maybe on some level. I don't feel like the sabres are going to ever play under him and especially entertaining style the winning that you want that and you can still hope for of course. I say of course is. Going to be entertainment and off hopefully. But I don't feel like you know the sabres will ever played with him as coach. You know if any thing. Fast and loose. But I don't blame him for that I blame the league for that when Gary Bettman for that mostly more than anyone else like. I would probably say that about almost every coach you know I'm not sure I could name a coach that I think is an exception of that. Windy might. Be close but I think what he's done and he's done it out of necessity and I think. Almost every coach talks about high scoring games as oddly. And and messy part and so you know that's too bad so I don't blame them I don't expect. My culture my GM. To make moves based on what I think is the most fun to watch. Because they would probably say they usually that means bad. That means just you know not responsible. Those kinds of things but to me that's a problem but the sport mean listening to buy asthma like this morning. On the station describe. Strategy like today it was a little bit like a chalk board could have been out as he was on as he was taken their questions and talking about what his plan is what is system is that kind of stuff is so dry. And we get the sabres he would check cycle the sabres have yet to. Play a is an entertaining team. As opposed to like whatever sort of a league averages in that way then again the UN. Hopefully that's enough for us wrote that the great one of the many many great things about the team ten years ago was that it was this to it was not just good it was really fun. And everything about that was just dream. Prices were low ride the games were really exciting. Team won. The law is a modest group of guys you know not open like that. The big the biggest free agent in the league in come to their team and save or even Dominick Esherick as the best scores are chip about a two biggest. R.s one was like exiled from Arizona and the other one had been punks from Colorado to Calgary to have a year like you don't. They weren't exactly kingpins when they doctor that was just a perfect team. To latch onto and enjoys lost in only the got close but everything about it. More so I would say bit better in like all all the boxes get checked for their team. More more than the bills teams worked in the bills teams were sold great and innovative and amazing just like dominant. They're an 806. Sabres are an A plus from. The plus comes from the fact that like it was not just like a big Eagleton was not used. Though it you know party your hot headed I like that denoting right this these guys were bored just now you know. All love a little bit not expected to be good team and rose to power. Just in the last the sabres did this they blew it. They could blew up. And Evernote and hear recent ten years later. Here's Jay with us a mosaic deal. Look good job. Call. Eight. Our payroll. Right. To fight so there's a dark about the work our political system. If you put it in the place where Archie. Structured and proper to do. Will be successful. To. Well it's obviously. An extra B I don't archer it's adorable. Ridiculously simple place. Don't be selfish I'd like to have more success. Well already yeah I'm not trying to tell you that I heard letter saying anything different when I'm telling you is he confirms. Cause suspicion and or flat out something I'd been told has been going on within the team but we're. I I'm I'm not saying he is criticizing bows and he's criticizing his teammates when I'm told he's shining a light on something that I think is a problem. Aren't so what you don't know if not I'm not saying he was doing it to rip files on at all. Well our that it but I don't say okay that proper approach. To grow as players but got a little bit. Well federal work art but it. A year. Ago I mean it's ridiculous. There is part of the problem of dollars the place it. The play game hard and it felt that they have to be probably could probably get the art of the that's ridiculous. You know let's get the right people and here it is part of it is I don't support typically we're back to perform. What what what if Brady and I don't know this to be the case and what if the most important guys in the team up on the team the crux of the problem. What do you do then see that I mean that's why I am talking like how does this being resolved itself and most often. It resolves itself by the players winning out whether you think they're being coddled I don't disagree with the guy and that's right. What else you gonna do besides come all the guys you paint two seasons to get on your team if he's. A part of the problem with the coach and I get I don't know that he is I've not heard his name specifically mentioned. But. What do you do the coach usually pays the price. The days of drawn the line in the sand. And all that what that just. He didn't Michelle Perry and was probably maybe not super popular with some of the players in Montreal. Into first place he just got cleared. There has almost has to be your head to be. The you know a transition period with Jack where he goes from. That the man who can do anything he wants at any level he's ever played at two of the NHL Bristol got the talent even more than anybody on his team. More than anybody else on the ice most nights. But there still is a system and structure in the coach needs feel like he's got his support he needs to feel like he's being heard. Other players on the team who don't have Michael skill set. Would fall more into what letter saying like it's more important that they follow the rules here's miles my on this morning. On the station this morning saying I need Jack to have turnovers like. He is saying he wants Michael to. Blossom took took gold along sometimes to do his thing. There's got I mean that they I think it's a sort of like you you go along and you have bumps in that road almost every time because. It's going to be limits to that and you've got other people on the team to consider who might be resentful or just. 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Sure well that would that would gum it up is down and down is up that would make sense then I think that would make sense. The towel which should be probably. World wrestling eatery. There. World wrestling enzymes. Here's Andrew on WG. You are going through all their guys I don't. Know. To hang out talk just say let's listen I don't pretty low key that's right though. So Robert Robert Leonard is talking about how his players aren't they're put forth the effort that the coach's plan is putting together but. I wanna know why he's not stop in the pocket Munich islets in some of the weaker schools we've seen and yet he's. He's gone his player at all for their lack of effort or their lack of foreign game plan you know I've played goalie for pop up pretty hard time in you know in in my twenties to. It's it doesn't make sense to call out checking more and you can't even support team. On the back then you don't think he's supported his team. Admit he's above average this year. As he has this time than that the thing but he's not confessed that that's why do you think you've got a goalie. Issued this whole year you had to dice. Goalie issue this whole year that this numbers like his numbers are are good. He's really good in the back it's been good they're wired when it. Because they don't stop people and they don't score enough. Don't scored because they don't get enough goaltending on the oven no not really if you look at the stats and just take you know. A little bit and look at the stats you would notice that you have to say that came in disputed that our goaltending is not whether or losing there's no. Question about it. It may not be the full read and it's not eight reason being caught out the guy. In front of him for not look how good what do you have to be for you to accept it. Our own. Doing more territory and it had a couple none none that not a couple games how good what do you have to be for you to be like OK it's cool he's earned it. Are as someone who we would talk about being in the top five or top ten in the league single country. So he seventh and save percentage which is thus that that you want it's not even strings a percentage job so the thing that he is not it is not good enough for you but he actually is. How could you aggregate winner Rick upper big guy he didn't say okay nobody said I ask you how good would run its Robin Lehner I asked you how good would Robin Lehner have to be for it to be OK for him to criticize his team. And you you answered it and you actually. Place your answer right thirty years. You'd OK here's here's the thing he let in four goals a game. He criticizes. You're just gonna keep moving the trees right like it's never you're never gonna listen to them like the numbers I am I am not sold on him being their long term franchise goaltender. I've talked numerous times more on Twitter than in here Kazaa the it's kind of arcane to talk about it here. Tex and technical aspects of his game. So I'm not positive that they've got their goalie of the future but I am positive that he's been. Good good enough good more than bad. This year and furthermore I love that he said what he said because it's either going to. Push the group to rectify the situation. Because I think he's right I've been hearing about. Both sorts of things he said publicly for more than a year now. So I like these shine a light on it not everyone does. And you're a former goalie and I can respect your being reluctant to listen to a goalie call out his teammates because it's not something that often is done. You stay in your lane and what the but the but the skaters take care of the skaters being coached by the skaters coach and just. Just keep your mouth shut try to stop the clock so I get that mentality but I think something's gotta give here. And the sooner it starts to blow one way or the other the battered beaches otherwise and his skill and time. Hey you know what Andrew if you're answered back and a goalie should never do it in I'd listen I respect I don't know what I would say after that. But you're answer was. Actually is not good enough when determines how he is what you don't think he is sold them waterways or Tuesday. You know again if you wanna say pure thing is goalie should never criticize the rest of the teams just nut. I wonder that web rob ray coming up and I'll ask rob that. But you know don't always bad when he's not bad I've been saying all year people are criticizing letter for the wrong reasons some of his critics don't even know. What kind of year he's having to just think about. The worst moments. Which is the wrong way to analyze sports. Rob ray in the pregame that's ahead Mike show in the Bulldog WGR.