Feb 16, 2017|
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He's a hall of fame coach. Do you mean you how hard at colleges he is telling you. This guy. Was not good in the locker room not just good enough not just on the locker and on the sideline not just on the sideline but on the field when a twelve yard out was called and he ran for nine yards. Parcells called him. On reliable thing Parcells take Dan about Tate Donovan McNabb take Tony Romo take Jason Witten take Jeff Garcia. All of these men play within except without all of these people played with him. And uplift ourselves opinion will. That he should go with I'm not saying you're wrong on that point I am saying you're wrong on the obvious this subject. And that seems to be where everyone if this is so lobbies is such a travesty of justice. It. ESPN's first take talking about. TO chart Arizona look at some and I got to get focused OK so I want to bring this up our Jeremy there with you or your break with your sorry. Here on T I gotta get focused on toll outer right now. The down. But I like Kurt Warner add him to list our story this morning Kurt Warner says he thinks TO should be in the hall of fame Ron Amadon on the list of guys that would've. Cross paths with TO also said he thinks TO should be in the hall of fame and that the guy was who will Cain who's right Parcells did set. Having coached Terrell Owens yes it can be some work you know he had issues he could be some. There is some heavy lifting involving teal on the field off the futility can be a headache basically bought. Parcells that he thinks TO should also be in the hall of fame and not hear it necessarily you know bang the table and and and go rock Ron TO. But. I I think they were wrong in saying well he doesn't go on a hall of fame because teams gave up bottom you're supposed to look at his. Statistics in his game and is performed to determine if he's one of the best ever and what warrants merit warrants. Entry into the politic which he did. Here's what I wanna bring up. Randy Moss is gonna be ineligible hall of Famer next year. Now Randy Moss had that you wanna get his numbers right the second NFL history in receiving touchdowns. Third in receiving yards tied fourth overall touchdowns. Fifteenth in receptions. Actually she yells got some better stats than Randy Moss but read about still had some outstanding numbers. Is ready must gonna be in the hall of fame he can't beat. Not not first year anyway but did they can't vote amid. It's the same discussion as Terrell Owens the Pro Football Hall of Fame voters have set a precedent year. Losses numbers justify him being a first year hall of fame what are the greater for she was in his pregame but guess what. He once said I play when I wanna plight. He went from Minnesota. They give up too vague about bottom right you went to open for a couple years they gave up wanna be went to New England for a few years he played for three different teams in one season. In twenty to anyone from the patriots to the vikings to the titans. In any sat out 2111 and played and have just don't want it twelve he retired so the whole argument of well look at how many teams gave up on TO. Okay look at many teams get up on Randy Moss so clearly Randy Moss is not going in the hall of fame in his first year of eligibility and if they're not a hall of Famer right away they went to dale hall of Famer. With those guys I mean a league wide receivers with. Eye popping stats now just stats mean you even knew moss. I would say moss ahead of Owens for sure right. I wanted to put loss at all the more I'm more dominant player it's I think it's moss right but. There's no way he goes in on the hall of fame first ballot can't they just that the voters can not if they put him in next year they're hypocrites. Well I mean are they interest rates any kind of well yeah they are what one of the same narrative is what's what are the voters trying to accomplish here there are they really ever gonna keep the Terrell Owens out there forever now he's gonna have to wait as long as Andre Reid did of course not right I hope he's ultimately going to going. So anyone that voting against him you're doing so out of principle he didn't want in the of the B a first ballot you don't want India second ballot. Unlike what the fourth to seventh year you're willing to buckle you know it's one of the things I think a lot of people have difficulty understanding. Is easier not you get Tommy don't think he is now but in seven years you'd think that he is. What are you trying to accomplish your beat cleansing the hall of fame well bad guys right trying to send a message to current receivers. Or whatever current players to stop being depots to stop putting yourself above the team like he's very bigger message. That the voters who are anonymous when you vote against the guy. Is your bigger message trying to center at the answer I think that is yes. But you're not that it's nice Vista that's not job growth is not public whether you voted yes or no. What what message are you sending it you're not going to put your name on it well what's public is whether or not you make it to the fifteen or ten or whatever what what point you get caught off that is public right lake in the semi finals of the finals and always did make the final ten now. And the voters who keep them out of that final ten they don't. Get any credit for it. Right no no no he's coming out let's say he's a secret ballot if you don't you know who the voters are right it's listed at the website for the hall of fame what you don't know the validates the ballots markets and you don't know in less than whoever the vote race comes out and says I I've voted against right correct and never actually comes out. So it seems like you're trying to send a message without actually putting your name on it and maybe a voter would not wanna put his or her name on it because you'll wanna make it about yourself. It just seems to me that transparency in the process would be a positive step because. You know then again those voters would probably be screamed at by a lot of people would watch keep that guy out but. It just I don't understand the message you send and end it's always been difficult to understand why you'd go for got to make a hall of fame in 2017. But in 2012 we didn't I didn't that you all think now I do it he can make that case about Andre Andre to wait a long time. Why did people to really change their mind. The case it's made each and every year they always there it you know it's funny I think they felt he was a hall of Famer but there's other guys they thought had to go in. Yeah like that for sure until I I like Kim but we can't ignore. Joseph Smith over here and not every classes the same like this last year was of very strong class of of all famers. Maybe it was Jason Taylor got in and Terrell Davis scouted him and Davis is controversial guy because he didn't play for very long so it's. Maybe it's the quotas themselves that create these problems that you have to get a certain number in on a given year. And you can only get a certain number in any given year then at the the probable hall fame is gonna have a year where there are thirteen guys are going and you can't do I guess you can't do that you're sermon it would take five and half hours. But I I I guess like I said for me again. It's what what is the role what is the responsibility of a hall of fame folder and and maybe I should. Go to the respect of hall of fame web sites and pull up the actual guidelines for this. I don't look at it I don't think a hall of fame voter in this instance the Pro Football Hall of Fame I don't think you should be taking in the count. Like the morals of the player and wet you know whether he well he stopped on a logo well Randy Moss pretended to moon the crowd in Green Bay. You know T ball this on enough to go through the long list at TO and what he did. There were no. There was no crime they committed right there was no sexual abuse there was no gun charge there was no robbery there was a right we're talking about guys who. You might disagree were their behavior on the field maybe there were prima Donna's. One guy stumped around afterwards quarterback. And they were probably a lot of work for their respective head coaches and offensive coordinators and yet. He don't shoot out is offensive coordinator one day out during a 49ers game. Greg Knapp I wanna say it was just rip them and a one on the sidelines and so not the nicest guys Famer Greg Knapp the awesome or don't know. Not the nicest guys personally I didn't care for either guy. But my personal feelings and what I think of them as human beings I don't think it's supposed to be taken into work out. I think you should figure out is this guy one of the best players. In the history of this sport. And one of the best players at his position in his era. And the answer to pull oh spurred further for both guys is clearly yes even in the offensive happy National Football League the numbers they put up the the production they had. With the various teams they're rat is phenomenal. So. I would have put TO in I wouldn't have kept him out because. X number of teams gave up on him but. The explanation that voters used to keep him out I think. Is exactly. What you would say about Randy Moss. Went from team to team and great numbers would look how many teams give up on him and he was a headache and he had some issues. On the via the at some issues off the field he had issues before even came to the NFL. He bounced around Wright was gonna go to what Florida State he didn't go there are Notre Dame and edition before it ends march. So this guys that issues all the time personally and I wouldn't wanna be a friend and a and a part of is pretty goes in and book it goes and all of it. You know what's different about loss verses on right now moss is in the media. Moss will get and yet he's working I was Brees has been where he's part of the media and we think that would make that would put him at yes. Yeah it and they're just hypocrites it's and you can't you can't separate these him. Whatever. I think today. They made their bed so to speak it now you got allay that I I think they really overstepped their bounds and and and set a bad precedent here with what happened with. With Collins and if the thing is I mean again that to an extent. They've made TL sympathetic figure some people I mean I just think he deserves to be in the hall of fame but I guess that I just think you've you've played yourself a really bad track here. Because now you have to use that logic and you have to apply to Randy Moss he doesn't get in and 2018. And how long does she wait to get into the pro. Well Matthew tweets remember Doug Whaley said moss was the best he ever scouted. I don't remember that but I believe I am I believe that Whaley would have said that eight we'd like to ask him questions. About scouting about us Tressel who we seen. We've talked meanwhile we should probably probably due soon right. With the draft on the way and you know people wondering about their draft board and I don't remember him saying that but I go I do believe that he be probably did. For Whaley right now you know what it was this weather put together their big board now and again rated well they for yeah I would assume they finish their player valuations. Now they're doing their pre come by and stuff come myself and of course come by which couple weeks which is very important to future interviews with players. And it was probably overrated for almost everything else right the bench press the shuttle drill as their medical state right yet you know keep you get a lot of one metrics on players and then if for guys to come by warriors both to be careful because who cares how a guy looks like front. You know a guy will run at the top mine and then he'll run later this pro day so I used to hate the count. Now I love it I really wait for the no because I wait the overreaction though how. How a guy stock can rise and how is so and so look good in this drill Seles making a point about than them on inviting Chad Kelly. And I don't sell any good point about this he's tweeting about this yesterday. Become that is exactly the thing that Chet Kelly needs yet that an opportunity. Or. Whatever and obviously meet the team I meet the teams that have them asking tough questions and say you know what yet to see for yourself or ask him put him through the psychological evaluations at these teams put these players through Masco those questions commensurate if you're actually you can do that by going to visit. All miss you gonna actually go down to their approach to show and you could bring him in for individual team visits but if you might not have a world teams are exactly there are going to be other. Players at the come by although. Didn't we hear this stuff that this was going to be a thing that the NFL was gonna star. Keeping players off the come by and list if they had problems off the field they are but I think it's more of sexual assault it's like a specific primer got right. Domestic abuse all that's sexual abuse. You know I don't. Try remember all the stuff that's happened in his background I don't. No look there any actual like. Convictions or crimes I know he got in trouble for the incident at the high school football game he got booed off the team in Clemson and I think both were not like. There's a story that he threatened to shoot up a bale let's try to forgot about OK so there are character issues but that's the whole point. If if this guy's got care issues and he has a chance to be in your league. Bring him in Indianapolis. And let the 32 teams figure out whether they wanna. Bring this kid to their roster not I think they still can get it pro day individual visits. I just think it's silly to rescind the invitation for the guy just. Are you are you keep it about clearly though these eligible for the draft right yes he sure it's okay. If he's eligible for the draft and teams are interested in him and he's. Pegged as middle round pick whatever he is and the likelihood decided to get drafted. But go to the top line and then it's up to each individual can say the kids a jerk we wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole or are we talked to him. He's he's gonna be fine global will take a shot at Chad Kelly I just don't know why you leave them out makes it makes no sense it's another kind of example where you. And I am the first play right at your coming congratulations and then uninvited what happens the cycle episode. On invited. Or not gonna say it invitation could've fallen on the steps when George lost imitation is way up to. I don't get that party leader if you've felt he had character issues why would have been invited in the first place. If there was against drug policy. And this is this is why Chad Kelly's not coming he had some off field issues in which you know that's the new policy we have OK he's invited. Flights plucked ready to go and then all of a sudden he's uninvited and there's no. Explanation from Troy Vincent in the National Football League as to why at least according to Kelly taken. They're saying there's no explanation from the league as to why Chet Kelly was uninvited sought act it makes no sense to me he was coming. Let's let's copper indicated let teams decide they wanna do about him but I. We said one of the dugway we will say this one of the big reasons they like to come by and is medical's there'd their medical staff can evaluate anybody with the injury issues. Chad Kelly. It's coming off a big injury that kept his his season short at Ole miss you've got a chance for all the teams to take a look at him physically and see how he's doing. Another reason why should be there. One thing that bills fans should not miss today. Nick foale's. The chiefs decline the option on Nicole's. Which will make him a free agent. And he will be sought after rights but we think you'll you'll be a target for the bills I would. I would think I'm trying to say kind of agree he goes to what disease that to the top of the free agent lest. An an old deceit. This he passed Tyrod Taylor tyrants out of freeagent. But Tyrod if he becomes a free agent does nick folding pat Tyrod Taylor I don't think he passed tyrant had no nick full says. You know if you look at his numbers I mean yeah I know I look wild year on he added one year with 27 touchdowns and two pixels than look at is not this year he did get I think he got up. One or two starts I was in three games but I think it may be one or two starts when Alex Smith was Saddam out of the lineup but if you look at its is here in Saint Louis in his last year in Philly. His accuracy when Downey was under 60%. He threw twenty touchdowns and twenty interceptions. So obviously not very good no there's obviously something there maybe not long term it. For a bridge guy yeah right it's it's very similar to Taylor you wouldn't say a for the people think. Tyrod Taylor is good but is in great for bull long term and is your franchise guy. Full might be exactly that to. He's it was not very good in Saint Louis but if you just take Philadelphia and Kansas City now it's 49 touchdowns and seventeen interceptions in four years. Gary. You city of twenty interceptions in one year ten of those were tip to note Tony in the juniors fortunate to have gotten moderate commode just with Philadelphia Kansas City and you know in Saint Louis and a look at the three teams. With Philly get him. Good offensive coach Wright yeah Kansas City that team. They ritual what Kansas City. Andy Reid they've been good enough they they protect the football they do a lot of things that the bills try to do. 49 touchdowns and seventeen interceptions in four years with two good coaching staffs have I've got to do a good offensive staff. This is the answer the question if not Tyrod then who. I'm not gonna tell your beloved area to be all that impressed by yeah but nick falls is an answer to that question. You whom probably is cheaper would just guarantee it's 47 million dollars I don't know I don't know I think the chiefs just are turning down an option and he was enemy is based was like ten under ten ish I got a double check his contract completion percentage is 60%. Then got is not an accurate count now. His record as a starter is one mean sixteen Tyrod is fourteen and fourteen. Like they have. Different skill sets but you would say they're probably on the same tier the rush. Would put them on the same I'd put him in the same cheer but I put Tyrod ahead of falls in that rankings inside that tear Coca. I think you put him in in the level of men. Quarterbacks and there's a few of them in the national public but I would put Tyrod ahead. Of of falls I think Tyrod is more accurate and I do get his running ability as opposed you know nick false. And I think the thing with false look why would they do that it's cheaper. Nobody by the way would be under operating under the impression this guy's anything bought a bridge guy this is not a long term solution I would hope that if if the bills decided to move on from Tyrod. And let's say they decided to bring in nick falls police still draft a quarterback organize is clearly just a short wondered do your thing how much. Money would they have to save for it to make sense. Take full instead of Taylor. Taylor is supposed to be guaranteed 27 million if they pick up the option but say they can't come to terms on a new contract and he becomes a freeagent thirties guarantee some of this Tony 180 adjacent to Tyrus guarantee thirties guaranteed three million office tornado can base. What's the number to guarantee falls to make that make sense twenties I was gonna say half of that 1515 guaranteed fifteen million debt. I'd like to clear up some cap space Tyrod sticking up sixteen million in the cap can get falls for half of that. Third that Fuld was set to make a pretty good chunk of change it chiefs think it was ten yeah I mean he kind of had the option built in that would make him a free agent and maybe give a chance to start once again. But when going from Philadelphia to Saint Louis as a first round pick that they traded. Second round then our man was I was sorry was he part of the brat for trade. Delegate ten point he was gonna make ten point four million dollars in base salary. This coming season in Kansas City which is why and they declined that they're going to or have declined that option. Six foot 628. Years old to be able to seal the middle yes that's Obama's you might not be able to run but kitty might appeal to throw can manage the game he'll be able to see. Ken Kenny hand the ball off to LeSean McCoy. Kiddies get the ball the Sammy Watkins Kenny managed the game and or whatever game plan. Whatever offensive style Rick Dennison is going to have with the bills I think. Really it's it's. You can save money. And the question is Kenny managed this offense and by you were a year or two he was part of the Bradford trade. It was full as full a fourth a second to the rams for Bradford and a fifth. And second that okay. Bulls then signed a contract accents with rams' new and then ultimately moved along the Kansas City not a huge fan but like I said. I you know what you think he's a target for them because I view as this is exactly I think the caliber of quarterback and if they can't get Rome all depth and they think Tyrod too much money and it is exactly the caliber quarterback they'll look for either veteran guys got a large sample size a large body of work. Has had some success in this league again the one year in Philly. Really makes the that the stat line pop out his career numbers. TD to interception is 56 to 27 in large part because of that one year and he was plus 251. Year. But yeah I think it's got it would consider I think it would be a cheaper alternative than Tyrod Taylor. And I think it's say he would scream one year till cartel Jones is ready or two years if it takes that long for cartel or maybe the guy you draft this year. In the meantime the bills can still look at him go. We're that we can still trying to make the playoffs this year we got a veteran quarterback we still have the oh I'm still LeSean McCoy yeah I guess Sammy a partner and McDermott is gonna make the defense that I do think that. The bills as an offense are more well positioned than they've been in a long time to tell cornerback. Hey there's something here you can work with them you know the weather's McCoy in the run game or watch skins and we're gonna draft another one clay that they do have peace is that a free agent quarterback if when they get passed on by Josh McCown you have rounds instead of the bills. But they weren't exactly as. Established. Offensively. And they ultimately what that was at the of the gate important. Yet now that our cabins and hobby you know it's it was after Cobb wasn't meant kept Kallis after comic count was the year that Kennedy remembered that this just search for somebody quarterbacks they brought in summary during training camp. Polls is. Is he or on the he's not as old that's it or was getting uncle Rico back for one more ticket McCain. Falls 28 you know full is probably thinking about playing for another 56 years I would. Think you still believe he's going to be in the league for a little while whether whether or starter thing I know this article I saw said he would be happy be in the back up in Kansas City again if the market doesn't. Yield anything for him and in Kansas City wants to bring him back we'll be delighted to go back to Kansas I don't like hearing that that's what he said but but it he's got a chance to start somewhere if I mean yeah he's gonna go to start and he's talking about a there's nothing out there for me then I'll be -- say they will take it back but at a different salary as our back up that he be delighted to go OK you'll be with Andy Reid be with the chiefs again. Yeah I don't know if it's a starting tight anyone is below about a thrill to be a back up yeah I can start a buffalo are set by Alex Smith. I don't think he's gonna sit behind Alex if pulls does is at target of the bills and then plays one year and retires like Orton did well in the bills are officially a problem because you and Tony I know old guy retires the you know what I'm done with this game. I data real I've found that plays the retirement Istanbul's low. 888552. Factor too by the way speaking of the bills. So has had a series of articles this week breaking down the bills unrestricted free agents offensive skill positions all lined deal line today. It's linebackers. So you can read all those at WGR 550 dot com when we return. Attempt that Iran will join us we'll talk some hockey with him the sabres. The night quizzed suspension and a story about what goalies are doing with the new hockey pants. Let's on the way with Marty next on WGR. Now for he's weekly appearance with Howard Jeremy yeah. Furious former NHL and sabres goaltender and courage TS NM SG NHL and WGR media mogul Marty here on. Marty reruns appearance is brought to you by Paul William Bell's your power of attorney by. It held helping your business stay healthy and Mike Sheehan stakeout or tried the new pizza stay hero Ted GM's stake. It runs joining us just a moment sabres Colorado tonight 730 on NBC sports network turned on the television and of the radio for the call from. In Dunleavy and rob rape trial lost to Columbus last night which more injured in that game Detroit lost to Saint Louis. And goose up necklace got a six game suspension for intentional spear to the face of an opponent. The army or younger got 19100 is ninety Duluth career point last night Ford beat San Jose NFL. She's declined the option and pulls he'll be freeagent jets released left tackle Ryan Clady while Chad Kelly. Had his com by invitation. Rescinded the NFL says you're not welcome here anymore in parliamentary LaSalle 8365. And in hockey conditions for two over Niagara. Marty is thoughts and anymore headlines he can bring them up. Those are sports alliance next update top video March Madness is coming to keybank centered on missed the first and second rounds of the NCAA division one men's basketball championship right here in buffalo visit NCAA dot com slash MBB tickets. To purchase your tickets today. Not only is he media mogul he's now. Brit said sabres broadcaster uses Twitter lets that's more of the mogul and yeah does that what do you think mortgages that fall under media mogul or do you wanna separate sabres broadcaster mention. You know what you guys are good with the labels you figure it out you used the F. The want to. I forget about the ball. It's been a decent time working in between that center court properly I think that there won't hold more that operate at. Marta the next question regarding moguls is have you ever steed and do you go after the moguls. I it uses yet tried I grew up by about five minutes away from Greek. Pretty good you resort in the in Quebec city you rock. In the amount of those great in elected a little more look at the problem is I hit a lot of hockey outlet for at that school. Sold a bill once a month I would vote you would down big which setup job they'd go into the woods beat him the locals and I try to. Pop would dump while it wasn't like. We're rerun that I'd beyond my eight. Face pulling and probably all over the plate gothic book without the light they away from local rep that so I was pretty good that. Getting done but that mogul is just I could never get the red up and I was worried are gonna hurt my. I'm sure it would have been that guy that would have had that ski patrol. Have to help down the road that this slope after awhile. I enjoyed thoroughly enjoyed your conversation you don't conversation UN Andrew had with Dominic yesterday and I. And it Edwards I'd believe all the Java they were. Q now it can't leak it would do it and lower. With dark it was you was really. Blood do you have any was telling stories that bad a Ike acknowledges though that topped it's a political. I thought it was interesting one of the things you said Marty and I found very if you right at the end and you're talking about. Dominic and his ability and and how one of the things that set him apart what of course his style but was his ability to adjust. Anticipate seeing the play and know what was gonna happen before the play happened Nate I know they talked about that would like Gretzky. Like the top forwards in the game but I I don't know I've ever heard anybody say that about a goalie before. Well that was made of those special I mean everybody's like well how. There is lit the blocker goal and it made the saint. Oh because EE EE could feel what was gonna happen you could see that the only option. Former guard the player apart how would go across and quickly try to cap it and because there was other that's a low. I present at that he would take it apart by the way. You could see so many things that the right. The fact that we talked about yesterday about Marion gap and for those that they'll all. Google Dominic cash or in Africa so average is one of the fastest skater. In the National Hockey League at that time played with Minnesota he's about Gordon a breakaway he's. Agreed in 2 o'clock and Dominique laughs is that. Can Kool Aid do hate that we'll check yet that popped. Average lag gap creek gold slipped it in the air. And in all. Comment by I don't lack got a penalty. Which is alert but to be able to anticipate that. That way and meet GAAP break at that time. We're at the park is artistic and be able to just. Countered that it took me that's the ultimate read that you can have ethical there and he used to do that. You know not just once a year like Greece or side by this year worry about and that guy. Dole almost at the top of the circle and get him to lose the plot that was crazy. Yeah I just watched it back. Yeah he would had it right he would had to read that play. Long enough before it happened to be able to get to the port Rican meet Gabbert before you have. Be there at the right time to go out and got caught with bad re a member I'd securely Dominic sports game Beckett both slope where we beat Detroit like seven line. And they were the Uruguay. And Chris Pratt hit down the left side. With the puck so crap to the left handed shot. Got on the left side and eat it just looked over and take that out and the arm literally no holds through it laugh. At a park would have been and they grab and just started that got it was really weird well. That would be the only time in his career at that that it re. But. At this meeting I just feel that BP with Oakley wanted to give a little. I didn't wanna ask you about the the night quiz suspension came down yesterday six games on a play that they said was extra watch extremely severely dangerous or whatever could have been a major career threatening injury it wasn't an accident. Here's six games Marty you got to shake some sense into the late. I have you call somebody because I understand. Jack. You know suspension can be taken lightly and he'd do you get gusts of I quit somebody that's been beauty. Clean and good throughout the league yet we're not talking about court here or eight particular I mean are we allowed. That led up but still those things happen to those guys there's 1520 kid write but. I don't understand not only can say this was an intentional. That does face air sick game. I know we have to protect our referees and linesmen and to make contact with direct recently at. Is in no way acceptable. Put it in aid. What a captain that back at a lag of of you know probably build. Is a category two. Physical abuse of refereeing in this state automatic ten game suspension. And I don't think Gary Bettman again like white and last year at Gannett. That's been so much in the appeal that and like that because. He has got to protect this out so I thought that I read that it is it dead gave suspension. Let a sick you just based advance billows somebody's. And it ended instead in their explanation that it was intentional. It's like if I I don't get it I mean I would have been up. We had. You know I would have been not happy I would have been satisfied with ten game I would have been happy with fifty. I say it does not even close to being wet this should be I dispenser. I would have been happy with the rest of the season act Clint Martin Marty think players have a role there at like in the CBA talks on the offseason aren't. Whenever their meetings to say. Hey we'd be okay if spears to the face were were bigger than six games. I think that there what I talked. During the last EPA's negotiation where. Players. At at that board like our sport. Built together at Beijing. Heatley Boise I'd a point system so after it was intentional he got four point that it resulted in injury it would look like a bit that. If you had eight ai if you were ready I repeat up and there you got more points added to an and so if you had a certain about a point. It's solid QX. About a game tech athletic even delete the debt side what it was though. It would be between twelve and sixteen for example. And it basically would play out out there dot AM. There are heat up later with all of the all. The act it would. Except it's like it was all accepted it in a standard what that might have been scheduled to that stage. Well I think given that why next what is your role given sick so there's an. Doug Yates and the player came up with this formula in the present it to leak the leak wanted nothing to get. They double and didn't want you to know about it do their job where I do their job and they wanted to Ian could roll. This suspension in the players' safety of the discipline so it that's what the result of but the like that and it would probably something that have been coached deed it something. Enhance and work to gather the league we're just stubborn in Asia and what are you up or not not to do what. The leak is stopped. Talking about it I thought that I came to hit our area you're at it. I'll mark that we did not say anybody Robert oh my goodness I have no idea I don't know. Marty you clearly do not know the National Hockey League the NHL I know is hot. Stubborn or Eric and I've no idea. OK that's enough for the argument had added yeah we're all there Aaron Eric area where. Good the league sadly Marty. One of its many flaws is it's arrogant. And edit it and and it it boggles my mind anyway I don't wanna I don't I didn't want to dwell on that I do ask that effect and what about the NHL PA okay now the union represents. The guy who handed the spear out. The union also represents the guy who took the spear in the face. Is is irresponsibility. On the NHL PA eight to get Stewart to get to its members to try and cut down. Incidents like this are dangerous vicious plays in the league if the biggest got to make it illegal suspend him enough what can the PA do. Absolutely I think that would Wear a deadbeat dad if you were strength yet quick yet. Proposal didn't suspension because at the players work and know why because it's been at the end and how in what happened. And it you are and we need a Bender and you. Good illegal check that they had here next suspension and yes it is it's an injury will be what you fight game that they that those are all three EP. It seemed like you exactly what. For you at. So hey it was guided weapon remembered like rush toward. That Marion also up wit a beauty that Jack a few years back and then the G-8. At till the wreckage or suspension. And really defend rescued Doris everybody's like out of that you can definitely a door clearly guilty in this. If you don't hit that so they could get. All the a process that's what the league. I'd gusted to. Two give out suspension so I would if we are being able to look through a leak seemed out there will be able to. Talked Gary Bettman talked to bill Daley tucked in chin at that time and what they found out is that the process is flawed the process. It's completely. Outdated in one guy's sentiment and you don't like right now it would be that that can. Patrick Burke sending out an email to. Fifteen people at the opposite that it typically what you'd think that are you got Rob Blake and got Chris Crocker got all the guys. Talking about it. And one guy will say that's fourteen community get sick at fourteen kids should be. And then they come back to advance but there's an old into it they'll ground at the leak. To be able to come up with that number game. Marty one other thing I wanted to bring up is. The goalie pads I know I don't remember which game it was it was one of the games you just sat on the sabres telecast. And letter gave up a ball I think that they asked you. Think that's a byproduct of the new pants there was a note Elliot Friedman had a note in his thirty thoughts the other day and he said he wrote. Is it really true goalies are sitting on slash putting weight on their new rounded tight fitting pants. In order to flatten them in any thoughts on on on the pants and isn't having any impact. I am it is true that goalies that at. Jumped on their pants then that flat about a little bit but that's just normal we used to do that any can't. You do that we hear that you. We each got our our fact that you want to make him. You wanna break him in the YouTube many different things to be able to do that. Now I remember the goal that was the what political against Vancouver. I don't ever score out that's been out for local cathedral to adapt deflected the puck. Matters straight just we do love cute Viet. It's squeeze through. And that take a look at that that edit edit edit. And direct effect of what the required to do it like to Bora are delighted this court go a little bit they wanna see more schools. Where the goal leaders if she doesn't squeeze. Played enough with the piceance that the park will all be able to do our to come through because they're more rounded. But India and it has not affected if that goal scoring that much Ed I believe. Over the first week it to have. I can say is that this big percentage ethical course exactly identical to the first. Four months of the regular season so. I say you know what Dominic said yesterday and he talked about the Jeter on the quality are about the chest and our protector. About how he wanted to equipment to be smaller but if everybody was gonna have equipment I would have to equip a little right so. Gotta be in the goalie mind it was a goal is quite twenty years ago and get a bit the bullet myself and it will be in twenty years yes. If you can cheat a little bit. Out Japan if you can find that you waited. At a little bit and they achieve their here and there you'll do it. The league you're gonna have to do right to be a step ahead of all of that. Mr. brown thank you as always sir you media mogul. And are you on any games against zone. I know I will not be odd until February 28. The day before trade deadline or will be interesting because they're they gave it bad in all pulpit that there is. The craziness of the raid which I don't think it got to be get busy this year so I mean yeah I find myself sure more people with a G. Sure can't. Help but I I can't wait on YouTube that a lot. I can actually you're an affiliate other people that I bet that they get on a mighty I don't. Stupidity on TV so that get it we love and you know. All enjoying. Actually sabres game before a bye week and then after that we don't have sports or like our whole goal week and it's crazy here. Marty you got connections for the USC pre sell you can buy tickets even ago. I am not a USC guy I accused dole dole I would puke backed bit QB he was big like I would do whatever is boxing. I hear about flawed. Flawed but. I just I edges never got into it USC I don't I don't under and I hate question. Polls are bent backward that the dollar and all of that all right I've got I don't UFC so you could have played they get that I have yet. The little all right model to Google gets on and I don't take. Yes I am given them that get you are so I don't know that that app but that's a have a great weekend Marty thank guys don't you let. Marty brown honor AT&T hotline joins us Thursdays at 730 to talk hockey. And it's brought to you by Paul William Bell's your power of attorney. But independent health helping your business stay healthy and Baigent stake out try to new pay its Nia try the new pizza steak hero. It should stay kept. While lying column they come up just a moment we'll talk about the sabres game with Colorado and other sabres matters at 8 o'clock with Paul Hamilton on WGR. Very poor coverage. Karachi is you as an older person. You are Ol are to push the ball. But no this shoulder and he did. Tensions were reasons but about the electricity. They're not improve it and he's got a coach. It will be content. It can't score so how did he get rich as you decisions are terrible. Oil and gas so I'm like hey. I make people some people. Upset yesterday viewers say there is a Twitter. Thread going around. And the thread said and you know here see what is was like hey quote this with your. You know unpopular opinion quote this with you sold. It was. Quote this. With your hottest movie take Mike Janelle on Twitter writer for and he baseball prospectus maybe card he said quote this is your hottest movie today. I think my hottest movie take which I don't think is not because there really believing you know hot takes we we've gone now yeah I'm I'm it's not a strength of mine and to make you mad. But I. I'm my hot cold we take is. Slap shot is terrible but you said that before he had. I'm I'm not I'm just gonna let it's kind of a hot issue and take them and let it slide which is a hot which is hotter. Which one makes you matter that I think slap shot is terrible. Or that I think the Monty Python movies or hole I don't like either one quite honestly which would make you more upset. Which was shot which we can you understand if I don't like to python I can understood okay. Because I think a lot of play on the. Sense of humor I think they're just. I don't know what all I happened to now I would tell you that's like I don't think every month that's why I'm gonna give him occupied and I don't think every one of their movies is drop down hilarious. I love holy Grail. But the other movies like for Brian I've seen on him there's some emerging like it's kind of boring. Slap shot one of all time favorite movie I just think it's fanned three contest now. It's so funny to watch because it makes fun of the sport. And I know what. Maybe this is one of those things were like. I had to grow up in the seventies watching the flyers beat the crap out of everybody calm because if you watch those teams and then you watch slap shot like. Watching the Kurds. You know I I I'll cut you slack up Monty Python. And I think. I think the slap shot thing might someone be an age group thing I I really think you needed to understand the flyers in the and to a lesser extent the Bruins. And the mayhem of the seventies yeah and then you I'd say all got that is whole area right. I can understand that I at the time it came out. Thought and I still think that dumb and dumber was an incredibly brilliant hilarious movie dot iso one has said I've never seen it I say don't. Okay see I I do because you said don't loved it if it too much time has passed right it's a bit of a period piece yes Blake. And described them and numbers of peace peace whatever which I guess I understand the the concept out there if you didn't see that the time or when you're young enough you'll never really get into it right. I tried to sit down and watch slap shot on board and forty years from our site meaning that. Yeah see yeah yet. You know I seriously I'm not I really think someone YouTube tweet at me if you're if you're in my age range I really think a big part of of understand why slap shot is hilarious is because it reminded me of the of the mid seventy flyers. And it was just so. Chris over the top crazy ridiculous making fun of the NHL I just thought it was Wheeler making of the sport I should say I thought it was aleris. It it's not like. Yeah I think it's a very funny movie but anyway our water line call of the day. Was brought you by the premier group by maybe the the premier Glen the week is like creme Monterey pinot noir. Or something close just 14993750. Milliliter bottle. Only 1299 after mail in rebates the operators would be special September wind dot com spitting at the cost master French but state. Also brought you by premier gourmet buffalo is craft their destination when we get back. Paul Hamilton will join us we'll give you ready for. Hockey tonight the sabres take on the Colorado Avalanche three more games for the sabres before their bye week. Tonight and then Saint Louis Saturday in Chicago Sunday reminder tonight's game is on NBC SN not image Jeep. 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