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Updates from one bills drive around the National Football League has freed as he approaches a couple of weeks away. Teams are beginning to clear the decks with a couple of cuts the one of Leo don't opening today the Carolina Panthers parting ways with the fullback Mike Tolbert who's been there for several years three time pro bowler came over to the Panthers after a long stint with these idiot what chargers Mike Tolbert released by the Carolina Panthers today the dolphins made a couple of deals over the weekend the degree to which trait do acquire. Jacksonville Jaguars tight end Julius Thomas. In exchange for a seventh round pick this year Thomas will restructure his contract upon. Completion of the trade is expected to be in Miami today to meet with the dolphins in a separate deal the dolphins at left tackle Branden Albert. The Jacksonville Jaguars for a seventh round pick. Next year both players must pass physicals and neither team change their mind that you will officially be announced in the new league year begins on March night. Cameron Wake as the new two year contract with the Miami Dolphins an extension worth 191000011. Million guaranteed according to ESPN. Right they're able to western new Yorker who's been on the patriots coaching staff for several years. Is leaving new England and now officially named the offensive coordinator at the University of Alabama the move had been reported after about a week. Confirmed today. Table reunited with Alabama coach nick statement or you work at Michigan State. Oklahoma's pro day will include running back Jerome it's in the controversial running back who was not invited to attend the scouting combine next week. Nixon will participate in Oklahoma wrote in March 81 of the most talented running backs in the country. One of several prospects not invited the come by because of a pass on to. Buffalo Sabres off all week coming off a loss to Chicago Sunday night. Next game Saturday against the Colorado Avalanche it will return to practice Friday in Denver and local college basketball huge game for the university at buffalo tonight. 7 o'clock tipoff that alone married UV with six straight wins home against. Kent State and state coming up went over first place Akron. Just the other day it is the John Murphy show presented by no coach John Murphy and Donald Jones we are two weeks away from. Free agency period we're a week away from the com buying things begin and a percolate a little bit in the National Football League and guys that on top of it. Well all along is that ESPN insider in NFL columnist and blogger for ESPN a dot com he's covered the league for post twenty years now. Happy to have my sandal on the subway fresh take out I with a Mike it's John Murphy and Donald Jones thank you very much for being with us here today we appreciate it. Richard thank lot of stuff that you Britain lately got her attention including the Euro. Look at the continuity and teams that have. Not head continuity teams that have. Changed the most in the least in the NFL we're gonna get to the bills but tell us first of all white continuity is important what this continuity matter in the national football. I think it's period. Well helped the CEU policy it is part art equipment. At. The bank but you'd be appear. Stable it means you've had good people. Spot for a long time I mean obviously the bill know what that's like me they had a great line. Through the eighty's and ninety's because they had good players that were keep it around and they had gotten the sort of because it but I think there's a tendency to. Ali thank. A lot of teams believe what people how to win a football game for the people who on the frequently. Have a current of it and in other cities have that mindset of sand. And sometimes there's a tendency after one or cute three years to. Giver of good people for the wrong reason and I think. You look at this off season. Well or not we're good people or not but there's teams that are. Under a lot of pressure look at that. The jets for very happy with possible two years ago now it's still like to make a break here. Yeah you know John Fox is in the suitable two years ago if you registered your Chicago it feels like the other views are so. You know how patient will these teams to be lit. Who's shown they can do it who feel they're good but may not get a chance because you know there's a bad year here. I get I get to thank you Mike about a little bit of a chicken and egg situation though I mean is this a continuity breeds success. Or do you win and have success and so you keep people around in order of saint. I totally I agree I think it's very or for your what happened it you're you're. A draft. What's that day you'd draft over three year run with the same head coaching you have. Twenty players. And ten of most players. Probably our enemy it if he's changed system once or twice. There are guys who were brought in because they fit what the previous staff for coach want to do and so what happens is. You have a hard time. For what law when you're continually bringing in new people who. Maybe may look at some existing personnel which could be just fine but politically but format the coaches. And they want their own people guys oil dramatically exceed that'll so. You wonder. What the effect on. You know a young quarterback what's the effect. Just a young player general media fourth round pick he's had achieved and she activities career. You mean just be walked out see you may be starting over but I need the new executive guys. The move and under that are that. I think that makes an hour. Mike Sander from espn.com. On the line with a set. Continuity rankings teams that have changed the most in the least Mikey did it by measuring head coach changes GM changes coordinating coordinator changes. And quarterbacks who Weller starters out over the metrics invoked. As on consumable. You know being played in the build up close I just noticed it was talked about that. New England had claim. Echoed in opposite Belichick offered a quarter defense coordinator quarterbacks. Every year since she does well and I thought and that's uncommon so there has sort of a reporter being one of the though. Whatever team looked like over the same period that's what does this count and all the GM but it go to coordinators. As for quarterbacks that what he was basically. You know how many primary quarterbacks that the character guy got hurt some. Someone else played that was kind of a look at and Jimmie caught up they're cornerback Chris and take up there at the bigger guys and so not so they got on. And I kind of added those up. And created a little bit at an average other skilled positions are an opportunity corporate gives you just just engaged in a complete form that's. Working or tactical shifts or offered according Ortiz of the courses or maybe by court effectively changed again this year. That's. Incredibly striking compared to opposite. Might someone argue that you know New England. It's able to have the same go to Staten pleased because they have that guy number twelve Tom Brady yet reason why the rest of these teams haven't been able to keep the same coaches because they haven't been able to fine. Another Tom Brady do you think the quarterback position itself. Yeah I guess. That request and we all know what's the main users in football one of the Molson Porter if not the most important position of football but it seems like. That's the reason why these teams can't win in the can't keep the same code that's in place. There's no question with Brady there's that's a huge factor for coming less than Belichick shipment they're both just outstanding. You're a team like Houston has had decent continuity. In the last few years in the temple court. The team like Baltimore at the same twenty million dollar quarterback don't Tom Brady but we've got five off the court. Over the anger is so obviously if you are sent the quarterback position. You're. Well but it can look at. That have had only one quarterback or over the period that we talked about since two dozen twelve. You do see. In general more confident we hear that you. Sort coordinators talk. All. Mike we're gonna we're given up on issues that Terry what we're gonna do we're gonna. I cut you off and try to reconnect so while we're we will look at Mike Sander we're gonna try to reconnect in a minute and get get him back up and going on this Mike Santo from. Espn.com. His continuity rankings these. He's got that NFL team set her rebuild the bills went up on that list. He's got potential landing spots for a Jimmy drop below the bills mentioned there continuity rank since teams that a change the most and change some leaks if you might expect the bills right at the bottom only Cleveland has had more earth and moon. Like freight. Only played in his hit less continuity in the bills that over the last five years anyway those two GMs. For head coaches for office record meters five defensive coordinators. Three primary quarterbacks he did it a five year study anyway. That's the secret firm could it miss the playoffs you elements of plants keep changing this is true. But the funny thing is that he talked about. You know teams like Baltimore and Houston. They've had some good continuity but right Baltimore's what five there and often the coordinated that goes to show just how coaches move around a lot even though you might have a decent squad. The coaches at the unit they wanna be head coaches or you know they get higher by some audio somewhere else and it's one of their boys or something like that mean messages. How this league works on it's tough to keep the and that's why you have to really give it. Did Bill Belichick his props because he's been able to keep those coaches there. You know like guys have had opportunities to leave my Dustin Daniels and he's turned it down the Internet and A we all know that coaches want to be head coaches. Most of them I mean some of them they've they want to be head coaches in this league and so. For these guys do say no how many good position I'm gonna stay here but it really goes to show just how comfortable those guys are there they love B I guess they love being there and and New England under Bill Belichick notices it's tough to keep coaches it's tough to key players in the same place and today it's. Sports too. Mike I think we're reconnect you now mikes and go from espn.com. Who's written about the continuity rankings Mike thanks for beer and where this the bills' second the last second to the Cleveland Browns what struck me Mike among other things was that down it's not just the bills in the AFC east the jets in the dolphins and the built combined. What you got the number here they've employed 38 GM's head coaches and coordinators. In this five year span and three guys have done their job. For the knowing the patriots that says that Todd Wright there doesn't. It does I think getting back in the point and now that the conferees. A huge part of that but you'll Miami for the same quarterback or. Well Paula it's much better Mike Morgan it would try once more so we will disconnected and try to reconnect with mics and killed by her moments. On the go back wonderful. It is that close to follow. The boat show mostly to votes. The I don't know and Tom incredible number though bills jets dolphins over the spiders and they've hired and employed 38 general manager's head coaches and coordinators. Come by. Over that five years so that divide that by three we talk about twelve and a half. Hires by the bills jets and dolphins with a five year period when the com. When the patriots have had three men Belichick arbitration. Judgment and that's me I think. I really do think I mean ball tomorrow. As the one team with the exception have the same quarterback with different offers the corners I think that's just because guys are being hired by the teams but for the most part. He comes back to that quarterback position man and it's like Tom to me toss and if you don't have a quarterback it consumes you and you end up. Time is still find a quarterback and you end up not being a winning team. And so you're finding new head coaches in new coordinators and everything trying to get it right because you don't have that guy at the home at quarterback to get it done. I'm Mike's less so at the bottom of the bills. And Cleveland Browns but at the top of the list number one obviously the patriots Green Day. Number two unless they've hired one GM they've had one GM one head coach. Two offense coordinators one defense coordinator and won a primary quarterback over this man. Pittsburgh. One GM wanted to coach one offensive coordinator. Two defensive coordinators and one primary quarterback Seattle one GM one coach one coordinator on offense three on defense. That's because some the other guys are leaving desperately in there and Dan Quinn leading. The guys have been hired out of other teams to become a coaches you know so where these two teams that. Had the most movement is because these teams and now winning and so their coaches are being fired. Those teams that you just named. Their coasts of the entire by the places because they're doing such a good job so you would expect it to you would expect it continuity. Are the teams that have success in the National Football League right under way in Green Bay Pittsburgh Seattle. Top. Four and then Carolina Cincinnati playoff team. You know that the crazy thing is even though those teams like Seattle and Cincinnati they might have their defense according to leave. But the nets got it comes in is gonna run the same system. You know and and that's because. Just because you got a new coordinator used to have a used to have continuity because you still have the same head coach and the same head coach is not going to change the system. And a team that's been working like he's not gonna change the scheme that the Seahawks have been running because we got a new record in this is the scheme that we run and so can you run this game when you're interviewing guys or guy replaces him. Can you run their scheme is this legitimate caller are you gonna call something else because I want this scheme to be run and that's where continuity towns in the please. They still have the same ankle plays but he's still going to run the same scheme does anything with Carolina down you know with while Rivera he is going to run the same scheme that summit and it ran when he was. Jealous I'm jealous of teams that have been argue I mean look you aren't we were starving for that kind of continuity here starving for. That kind of a head coach who will stay for awhile and yes OK we lost their coordinator. We're still gonna are on the scene deepens and bringing a guy who can run my defense and starving for that Annika because I do think. That's the key to a sustained success. They have the right guy now Sean McDermott. I don't know I hope so I'll I'll show you all good reports so far before his coaching game people seem to think he's. You know very organized and a detailed in a grinder but he says but you'd you'd need that continuity you really needed it. I think it's I think it's the biggest thing and even if you know some of these coaches and a moving on to become possibly and it coach somewhere else he's still going to run the same scheme and that team that. So McDermott has is. A defense the quotes that this offensive this often settles signs of improvement. And it coach Rick Dennison becomes an article somewhere else summit Thurman is going to find somebody to run the saints being that this office has been running even though he's a defense that money coats he will make sure that his next hire to run the same thing that's what you want and that's it means it means that. You team is doing things the right way. Are gonna try to reconnect when Mike Sander and continue this discussion you're welcome to join us at 8030550. Or toll free 1888552. By fifty. Back at more than Jabber B show from one bills drive this is Buffalo Bills were. And reconnect with. Likes it means the end it's unfortunate reality to who smoke. It must apply who've smoked but the mechanism like I don't know that the you know we did service play right in some. No growth from Houston Pluto so artisans. Just crops and potential sponsors. It's like that are important and we're trying to reconnect with the mics and go from SP index up to forgo like this it is continuity thing is big. Team's effort rebuild eases the bills should be considered and or rebuild a major rebuild at least that. He's one of their top teams in line for that fourth says this of teams that should be rebuilt. And sizing up potential Europe below trade offers for six quarterback needy team. The bills that it was too is potentially a team that you look at dumb. You know treat for Jimmy apple we do wanna talk more with the mics and hopefully we get a chance to is we make. That workarounds that phone connection in the meantime our Twitter polish up that deals with free agency create teaches. Two weeks away now and march 9 as the day went freeagent get beside we want to talk with you about what's the biggest selling point. For free agents when they come to buffalo what's the thing that may be would sell the most convinced that most become the problem we've had more than 925 votes cast so far. Which is a lot. And so far the biggest selling point according to a a respondents on Twitter biggest selling point. For free agents who want to come to buffalo number one thing is money 34% of you say it's the money but right behind him the talent around you. 33%. 23% say new coaching staff. 10% say something else. Gives callers don't you think it is 8030550. The number outside buffalo told recall at 1888552. By fifty. Or by twittered the biggest selling point. Lack of continuity not selling point that's a question I would ask if I were free agent now than Netflix and we're talking about the happened. Have our free agent and a deal with the bills or any other team let's say how long are you going to be here GM holing going to be your coach what do you think a you guys have a record of cycling through coaches and at a at a pretty consistent basis here and one of the coaches hires me this year is going to be here in two and three. Opt out pulls a question you yes we do that for major network called you and say we want to come and do. Same show the same radio show. What would teach you to go and you have to leave buffalo where you've grown up and and you live here you to do here's your wife is here everything is here yet to leave here move somewhere else but we did suited to go there money money. A lot to him to be O clock or I mean I'm popular I mean I mean that what you describe is this. Fantasy land by the way but if they paid me ten times what I make now and probably do. That's since that's who it is coComment. I think that's what players that's how they think you know wait did the premium that's. Oh yeah uncle uncle there a work for a little while and let out a preacher and and you know. What would really comes down to is needed and how much guarantee. Like that or sign a bonus that's a really counts like the big contact doesn't matter. If you get caught up in that your full as a player don't get caught up in that big number he caught up in the guaranteed how much is my guarantees. Okay back to go make that work because we know you're 345. Probably a lesson even if found performing he's still my community we need to take it. Yet doesn't apply to me tar me think about that. Just because I'm so advanced. In age and career than it's like really was gonna and and that really mean the only thing there can't be a better situation for me. Rep so we've been after being ridiculous money Angeles. But out in mean you could even pose the question to two people listening Mike if you if you work at a certain place and another company called you would say we want to come do this. Would teach you to move from where you are now. So less is to say anywhere you know what what is what is the deciding factor that is if money is that the weather is it. PP gonna work with what you know if we to have people call in and so. Well I think we're gonna try but Mike Sander look at his avalanche this Mike Sander from espn.com. Might get thanks for bearing witness there was some bad phone connections with ice before we leader continuity rank users have a separate wanna talking about. But the point about the bills and the jets and the dolphins. You know there's a reason why none of these teams to beat the patriots and item that's the thing I don't think continuity is an explanation or just explanation Porter averaged just you know a symptom of what's gone wrong yeah division what do you think. Yeah well I think when it's extreme it's vote and I think it is about two teams in the middle bit out. I don't you know if if it's hard to tell but I think what the bill that's been accommodation. They got a mutual. Changes of Kosher how many coaches. Opt out of their deal you know that that's the usual things that app. You know you could just the number of head coaches the number of I think that position to make everything else change you know and so here in Ottawa on I really like. On the W watched their defense has claimed airline of their big guys are hitting people ten yards down field it played a game. They have a culture defensively. We've also their problem I eat you had chances to bill that they were gonna fire Ron Rivera. At one point. You know and you look at especially that would have been that way into the corner of the soup orbit so they have the core of good. They've had a they've had a scene there that one because of the defense a lot of the time. And had a real way to they developed players over time even when it looked shaky for awhile back in the year those guys always planned better. And so now in buffalo and you know if you if Sean McDermott so right now. Can you give them enough time to develop that you're gonna have a bad season here you're gonna have time but it looks like he did for Dave Gelman. People were looking at him ran. With this guy doing what do that this category back echo but you give them enough time you ride the highs and lows. That you could have some. He owed them while we were trying to connect. Donald out talk Mike about the situation like Seattle where the culture. Kind of lives not even know Seattle's loss a couple of coordinators in the last few years. The culture instilled by Pete Carroll that in the defense of concept lives on which I think is a goal the team should strike that you. Oh yeah idea nobody we look at this if you go back. Pete Carroll was seven and nine flies and was I believe Q in Q in his third year people were calling the radio city I live in the deleterious sanction that bench Russell well. Order back out soon. And now you look back and think that this was just some grand plan where they're going to be stable all I have been. You know it was seven and nine twice and people want the bench Russell Wilson after four games of recorder so. It takes a lot of things coming together to make that work and including Russell will that they don't get him Pete Carroll could have been a footnote like everyone else after four years and people be sank. The college thing USC doesn't work in an appellate for the beside. Couple curl thing when they are. Yeah but it joins us from espn.com we're talking about continuity you've also written about. In recent weeks about teams that are poised for a rebuild right down these guys in question you have to build the number fourteen. As poised for a rebuild so you talk about more than twenty players in the free agents so you know what's your thoughts on on the bills and possibly rebuild it to please. Yeah I don't like the word rebuilding I think we used over all I think people got the impression. Or are about all these start over a little out when I was in the you know it was teams that occurred. For a variety of factors have quite a bit of turnover and so what I looked that was like you said. Do you have a lot of free agents you have a coaching change you have quarterback. Questions and so. You know for the bills this is coaching change a lot of guys are going to be reagents which. Those two things together usually a coaching change is going to lead to some personnel changes than you have a lot of freedoms and the quarterback situation still little bit unsettled. That's why the bills. We're higher. On that list even knowing I think the bill have. Better players than a lot of teams that you would consider to be over all. Now you talk about the bills having. You know more than twenty players as as free agents we here know that a lot of those guys. Where one your guys anyway kind of like they went type of guys but is that you said it's an unusually high numbers so. Is it really and I usually high numbered have you seen teams had this many free agents in the past all. Certainly yes it is viewed and edited that title of the year. As. Your basis. I think I look at is not just in that the high number of twentieth a high number that the neutral I mean if you look at it we just mentioned Seattle. I think all of their starters under contract again coming back here so they would have much smaller number is certainly a less significant number. And when you throw the quarterback in other words it's untrue but determined left hanging as to whether or not. He's coming back I think that counts more than. You know like yours and maybe there's some one your guy who was a bit later played through and it snaps. You don't inhumanity sesame seed is technical Mike about. Overall you're right you do called it an overhaul matter rebuild. And you said the bills have better players than most teams that. You might consider for an overhaul some you know there is a popular perception both in and out of buffalo that. You know the bills have hit rock bottom I don't believe that's the task. What I felt dummy your thoughts on that. Now a lot of metre intercept and in nineteen last year that bench for their quarterback's last game does these a pistol. I just want normalcy for buffalo we know these things that are like. Like I said the coach upset of the heel who does that new year ago you're gonna have a 500 season maybe if you players starting quarterback you get a chance. And you arrest them under some weird thing worst contracts coming up who does that. I mean that he's just been usual things that are happening in your right it or well. So what if they had. Unity and continuity. Those are cute saying. It throughout your transition complete alignment. Very hard apple alignment between everybody when your change our car is just part and it's hard haven't we hear not. Part not when everything Irwin stayed there are ever. Built. You know the bills need that and need to have some normalcy so weird stuff is coming up. You don't even know what why it's happening at whatever want motives are on the same page not gone well. Music to my ears yeah search the area used it yet you make a lot of sense and at about both about the the channel level here and about the I don't McCullough dysfunctional like that word but just kind of that there you know let's get on the same page its goal you know there's there's some players here. Yes absolutely I got really anxious to see that these are. And some of these guys with McDermott just based on how Carolina played a lot of Tucker but he's. Lessing Mike Sanders joins us from ESPN that now. Jimmy Barack alone trade offers first of all no one knows if the patriots unit maker apple or apple tree. But credit to you you've kind of you know figured it out which teams might make a bid for rappel. Even to the point where you said what a lower offer might be what do higher offer might be. He got the bills on that list against assuming that you know Tyrod Taylor does not come back. Telling when and a buffalo offer for Jimmy or apple might look like in terms of victory while. It's it's very much prospective business because like that we don't know what how much Belichick values that we don't now how much. The teams items so we don't know those two things are basically what I did you talked a lot of people would believe. Who would love to have these conversations and we say what what would you value what should drop will be guys that in most of the guys. I talked to said. He probably should be valued somewhere. As like a late first round pick and if you really wanted to may be its weakness. And you make it you know maybe a middle of the first round pick a pick so with that as the basis. I thought you know pearl Lowe or offer for a team like buffalo or other team. You're offering your second round pick which is somewhere near the top of the spectrum and then some secondary that you know a bit Europe for third. Maybe a conditional one in the next you're that makes set. Feel like a late for trumpet from New England standpoint so. Buffalo doesn't have Khatami Buffalo's. Probably less than network at the communities because they could bring back Sara Taylor and because of their background it is not as high. I met some of the second round pick for teams. Election cargo were the jets or Cleveland who are could also be in the sweepstakes. Might. Is is really amazing to me because you have a guy like drop below who was played by two games that we have like a sample size of of what he can do in the patriot system. We know he can do in the patriot system in two games. I don't know what he'll be in another system and another city. On another team that might not have the same receivers or whatever else around him. So for that thought process of giving up a first round pick for him for a guy that hasn't done anything in this league it's it's amazing to me. Because you look at guys like. You know I know even a guy like Brandon Albert. Who has had some some injuries over the last couple of years. But he's performed in this league and a guy like Julius Thomas has performed in this league and they got what like seventh round picks for both of those guys. Absolutely talk about a first round of for a guy who hasn't done anything is this amazing. It has to me to. It is back to the importance obviously of that position. And even teams that are. Have average Cordoba. Like I mentioned. Chicago couple times everyone's been upset particular contract but when Jimmy Clausen goes in the game they can score points so that not even a viable. So. There is value in the position it's over valued at as a position more relatives that are position. And it also I think what's happening this is actually happening across football but it. Felt acutely at the quarterback position is the games being played differently in college and it is in the pros and so. The profit of linemen that means guys are already in three point stance who have to Iman is they come to the NFL they don't have the training that. Guys who were coming out of Michigan and has escape if your cat app quarterback position. That is. A 100% different from how most teams in the NFL law ought to play it to the things you have to do. A manager at the line of scrimmage and with the coverages and with the play clock. With motion. And all the things that are confusing are not being done at the professional level now they are occasionally Andrew Luck it'd cost a little bit it. You these guys did it help them succeed in the NFL. But there's a whole subset of quarterbacks who come into the leak. You know whether it's Tim Tebow over who were returner. Cap predict who has had varying degrees of success in the NFL but when they tried to play the way most problems according to wanna play. It's been a struggle and the way most teams thank you have to play ultimately to win on third down and in two minute situation when you have the little ball. And harder for those guys see in Barack believes he's somebody who also state that transition. It was coming from a code system that was different but does have some training in me you know you feel like okay he can do maybe closer to what we wanna they'll. They like how much did last year's Sam Bradford trade color how much does it colored the the put a potential trade market for Jimmy rappel. I think it is. New England and a great spot because they don't have to do anything and they can ask for that so it seems is desperate enough you know what screw up over these reports on going to pay for so I think it does come into play from new England's import. If I run getter out of they wait a minute they were having a desperate situation. For Minnesota and they basically had to make a decision very quick people were either. Most people now would feel like hey we get the draft coming up. We got some other people we go after. My last question for me. You talked about you know Tyrod Taylor and his team has not. They have not made a decision on and yet it dailies have not announcing yet would you feel the bills to do with our. I think I would bring back a mental thing about parity there is he seems to protect the football pretty well. He seems to be pretty productive. And he seems to be some birdies this is David Dreier and of the that you guys should know that better than me but I just don't see. A reason to get worse for the position you got to garner team whose. You know been 500 as a starter with a lot of weird stuff going on around them. You can do a lot worse. Why. Give up a lot. For Bert unknown that has the better chance of being worked on and been better. And I've one question for you might directing job and it's about Tyrod Taylor is well you wrote about an insider told you work. You had to put a big if in their for buffalo and say to grapple stuff only applies if they do not exercise a right which is currently there isn't it struck me. The bills negotiated this write the bill. You don't mean there there's a perception like that. Somehow this is a mistake oh what we have this big decision on Tyrod you know what when they made the deal last August they knew this this this is what they wanted this kind of flexibility to. Eight pick up the option and cameras you know the twentieth eyes big quarterback in the league. Or be walk away from it I think they're kind of in and not a bad position you're at least in terms of flexibility. They are up but that whole thing up sitting them down in the last game something you don't do when you when you do when you do that then or had any conversation. Right if they didn't do that direct. There are quite question. But the question is more likely an excellent goes right now you're on or was that a and we haven't had a full accounting and other. You know the end of the year Specter writes the squarely at the press coverage for well it will amount you know I mean it's a little confusing sort theatrics are. Yet they might thanks for bear witness to the phony issues we appreciate your. Insight and now hope to talk against and to thank you but thank you okay but Mike's endo joining us from from Seattle area so. Maybe that's what phones and pretty good at what Mike is that ESPN insider NFL economists and blogger senior writer on an a on espn.com on the NFL. And around the league for a long time and as I said they're going to segment some pretty interesting insights on everything that Europe potential grappling deals. You know what teams he's got I think 63 teams that. Maybe in the market for Jimmy wrap although if he's out there in the trade market in what they're higher offer would be with their low offer would be. Continuity rankings the bills' second the last it shouldn't surprise anybody and overall rankings teams. Poised for an overall when he made an important distinction about the bills. In for an overall mostly because revenue coaching staff he likes detail here at least a certain degree in it I think people need to hear them. They need that's needs the multnomah all right we'll take a break out the disease welcome back with more than John Murphy Cho presented by no go from one. Bills drive this is Buffalo Bills written. John Murphy she of Florida Jabber he jolt from one goes right Jeff Murphy Dow Jones and directly to appear today I thought are listed as the white as a lot of interest things to say. About a couple of different things including. You know the continuity aspect the the rebuild aspect. Every quarterback question I think that's he wouldn't want to start with the dollars you'll love this though it was me. He he talked about how that last game the finale against the jets. Sort of book clouded the picture from the right theater and I I don't know by. A 100% agree with his assertion Donald that if I read that started the finale against the jets and none of this would be a question but there's something to think about there if I credit putting it's the jets. The bills. Would not have. I don't know I don't want I don't know Mike's toll on percent right that. None of a tyrant Patrick issues would be either I think he still would anger at what they can't certainly. Created doubt about his injury by not starting him in that game and I don't think they did it you know lightly I think mine interpretation once they actually. We're thinking about his future which is why they wanted to protect themselves. I mean we were already talking about it. Halfway through the season Mike what's gonna happen with this contact has so many people at that point saying we need to move only to find new cup quarterback. As the season went on we got later in the season it was like OK. What's really gonna happen with this contract at this point and then when meg game came. And they sat him down it enhances everything that we were talking about and on a national level everybody's like oh well now now that. Now what exactly they church gave them his future exactly you know an awful right so it is in now debate did they do that unwittingly. I would think not right I would think they knew that that might happen that people might say that there and they did it for a reason to protect their options that they wouldn't be active and it. Pick it up that contract option you can. We can't debate that all day long and I think it's debatable point but it wasn't as if they blundered into but I think they sought look we might throw shade on. Our intentions regarding Tyrod but so what. We're not going to be. Forced to pick up that option by big because of injury pickled in these Smart guys that do to contact them once so when they did the contract they knew. Everything that was in the contract. Including the I'm sure the thought about every situation. When they win needed to contact they negotiated you know also. They knew what was what could have happened with him being injured or whatever the case may be and so. They prepare themselves for they're not in a bad situation might as disappointed that I tried him yet and I think might agree with me and at the end. They have flexibility here right which if if Tyrod had been injured in that last game that flexibility would be on. A they have flexibility here and they have not said a word about their intentions not to us that anybody outside. Report today Ian Rapoport not even report. Loose comments on the NFL network morning show that I think he's gonna look back we'll nobody knows that they haven't set. But dumb they have that kind of flexibility I think is important this time of year when it comes to negotiations with all your free agency and in particular with Tyrod Taylor. Take the biggest thing we always keep our options open right could be Tim wants to keep their options open to see you know I'm sure they wanna look at and say okay. First of law if there was going to be coaching change that's that's what even enhance it a lot more because you had the whole thing happened or writes that it was my rotate. That happened they decided to sit him down you knew you were given a new coaches that so now there's a new coaching staff one. To work with Tyrod Taylor you know so there and a great position because they had that option of saying. Coach McDermott and you work with this guy or not it was in my you have to work with this guy now because we have to pay him this money because he was injured or because it's all guaranteed our race. So it's a good thing that they kept their options open. The fact that they have a set right. We say they did have even expected. This team to say anything to was about what was gonna happen anyway I know fans get caught up and wanna know we all wanna know what's happening. But it's not they don't have to until March what allowed eleven. Now all right hey our Twitter poll today. Which are about free agency opens up and a couple of weeks two weeks from Thursday. What is the biggest selling point for free agency as far as coming to buffalo more than 975. Votes in hand that a dead heat. Money number one surrounding talent also 33% each so third do you think. Monies that are important factor 33% say the talent around. On the roster 23% say new coaching staff which eleven residents say other recently this on May be didn't blow it up for the love of money. I think that attempted. On meridia go to Norway and my limit him. Yeah. But that's the number one reason when guys dependent on your rates if you're a guy who's gone for a second concert yet you want to DP you want to. Did as much as you can get if you're a guy like Ramon Humber. Or guy might. There. A guy like programs though rentals and a different situation but last year Lorenzo was just trying to take that he can get now he's in the situation where he might have a team that will pay him the money. And so that might outweigh. This is my family I don't know if I wanna move to another city because of the team. Just jumps out off the wall as soon as we give you two million dollars he probably gonna take. Credit Ramon Humber for upbringing that situation pointed to the forefront. He's part of what we have we learned today it's presented by advance Meyer for reading western art homes and businesses with a fine instant. Home security and theater that for alarm penalty to provide the Buffalo Bills. Ramona Robert just signed his contract last week took himself right off the free agent market and he told us about his decisions with the bill. The other guy view or hungry. I was really do want to debate for at Oregon you gotta take it you just. Let's see where you know to where it is going to be overlord that this is this could argue it's not just one. What ship the despair a bit early this they've built around you. Although Biden made news and decisions very bailout bill loved him from both. Both solo vehicles or I was so called. Boat trailer. From a number we also talked a few minutes ago what mikes and go from espn.com. About the lack of continuity in the AFC east for everybody except the patriots here's what he had to say. I think what it extreme it's vote I think there's a budget teams in the middle bit crop. I don't know you know it's yeah. It's hard to tell but I think with the bills and accommodate. They don't use who'll. Changes are Kosher how many coaches. Opt out of their deal you know and at that and usual things that happen. You know we've considered the number head coaches number of I think that position can make everything else change. Mike Sandoval from ESPN. That coming to very good point that okay wanna thank our presenting sponsor no go family owned and locally operated since 1933. Like no call on FaceBook for great deal specials and more. Donald and I will be back tomorrow at twelve noon with a another three hour edition of the show want to thank our better come poured out today Erik Kramer. Production assistant from Jake Jake to read go to George flash Jeff Cole nick Thomas founder James governor producer. We'll see tomorrow noon to three with a John Murphy show from one bills drive. 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