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02-24 First Reactions - Sabres playoff hopes fading fast after losses to Colorado and Arizona over the weekend

Feb 27, 2017|

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Sounds like somebody's got a case of the more under these peace Howard Simon and Jeremy whites boom. We have to be ready come another very. Play our best hockey have a break and secure feed to send a little bit but also take care ourselves because it comes quickly afterwards. I have heard myself. Tuesday. Michael was on the ice but it's we kidded. Halifax table breaking up fights he'll go to the net now with a pass up to the liquor shots. We do pretty your job forgiven parked in that would have liked him a couple more second third opportunities on there's a couple scrambles and religious couldn't find the puck gets up on it so. For church country Arizona keep the analysts yeah. Heard it in for my. Keeps his goal scoring streak alive. To the demise of the buffaloes are. Stop playing the way that we had success through. He knew they were gonna push and we tried to protect a lead we can't let go. Mean every time machine if the other teams face life that's about it. It's fifty minutes and it didn't do enough to win the game it's frustrating these new ones that we need to just slowly. That's their chances away and it's frustrating I think for all of us as a group we win or lose and we didn't do enough in the. And on WG ER Sports Radio 515. No idea what zionist I only heard I will let you down hard to know her. A law on hold on don't ever ask that question ever again have but I mean I don't Johnny Cash hurt. I've heard Johnny Cash. Okay Greg Craig a fire Folsom prison on I'm not I walk the line on not making funny I'm legitimately surprised I've heard of Johnny Cash songs obviously not this. Don't think effortless one. I mean this we came out like a couple of years meaty before he died. I'll be I stopped following wreck before it no lights aren't I got ahead I think three other Johnny songs. Impressed with that probably not certain if this is Johnny Cash of all the Johnny Cash songs which ones. Which when should you know the most of his performance of feed others. Folsom prison blues remember Lewis witches. That's pretty famous yes right. They need to ring of fire right offering a fire. I'm just I'm I'm surprised I I'd I'd I'd try to think of the songs from the movies I saw the movie but what was the name of the movie I walked the line. Walk the line on the line with Eddie opt to do a lot of songs in the movie I'm trying to remember the silence and maybe that was in that movie and or call if Kirk was in that movie. Let's it's a bit of a downer that song the good news is time I mean I'm anybody I'm fine I got a handful of tweets about. Fire everybody trade everybody but. Don't they're not in the hunt anymore. No no and that I didn't sell your piece is now there was no debate I don't think if there ever was then there's no debate now about selling pieces. I mean the coach is right back into it though right all that talk about how. They really responded. After what was at the Vancouver game yet responded and when he showed three games three games in regulation. Yet but now they've lost three straight after on the Chicago game before the bye week yet. The toughest part of the weekend is I was under no false illusion they would make a run but the the worst part is. You lost the two schemes and hockey and regularly Jeremy Smith and Louis domain. One guy got his first NHL victory the other guy went into the game and an 893 save percentage. And not even know what this final numbers were what the sabres and get shots. 33 got a bunch the end of stop and 31 of 33 they did not get out shot heard dominated from a puck possession standpoint which is I mean that's kind of nice. Because overall they're a bad team in that department and it's been a problem that's been growing so I guess that's like silver lining if you wanted but. I think the coach will be a problem. For a while. Because. You've got to make a decision this like two weeks ago we went through this is he good enough for you is he the right guy if he's not fire him. If he is. Then you better stick with a might which is probably what they'll do but you work yourself in the spot where at the end of the year if you decide well. Let's give a little bit more of a chance in Tim Murray goes on gets better defenseman on this team. Then the coach will you know have them in a playoff race and maybe admit they make the playoffs and you know you could just still have the wrong coach who now has a little bit better team I mean. Did miles won a Stanley Cup so what anyone dispute that he can win a Stanley Cup right where the better team jerk. Of course we know with Sidney Crosby and if if getting Malkin and hug him a number of good players not to say that. Files it was a bad coach there can be right and wrong but. Now they've missed their window to fire the coach and try to get as far kind of that's what I I I Wii when did you first bring this up to three recovered how many weeks ago that all the other items to rewire the road ahead. Rack and you ask me that this morning and I'm like at the time I said if the wheels came off I could see something happen this season now. I I feel like to just gonna play this season now I don't expect anything other than him I think timber will make his moves by the trade deadline. You know he'll he'll he'll move his parts that he has to move. You you know cook off should be gone if anybody wants Franzen he'd be gone. You can see if you know Brian Gionta wants wants to go somewhere and bring back the off season. I feel like. I maybe maybe that's the way you phrase I feel like what would be the point of of changing her head coach now. You're seven points out if you want to race your age points out of the third third place should not going anywhere the seasons to put ski. There I think he I feel like Murray's gonna make this trade moves and then just play the season out. It what the sabres are going to do and listen they've been we we've been saying this from the start of the season. When it comes to patients they've not made any moves to show that they are desperate to win. They've not made any sort of move a posting and others in the driving it was the last time the Buffalo Sabres as an organization. Told their fans or show their fans winning a super important to us outside of when they lost in Europe to win which I think was. Obviously grand gesture got to go out g.'s way back I mean it was never really. Bob the rental player moves a free agent signing mean Leino was a free agent signing it's always air air off here this team signed a post so and you know that's up moved to get better but. And they could be someone that think they they could be they should be they've had a lot of injuries. I've got existing numbers on the injuries that I got from over the weekend which are you know worth mentioning with the matter right now. And every team is bad out of the bye OK fine. You're allowed to lose to Colorado because every team is bad on the by Columbus came out of the binding began under seven but up like a fifteen in the lead it was it's now. Five. Thirteen and four right throw in the sabres in Colombia that that again not every team plays Colorado a lot of the buy if every team played Colorado a lot of by about a B thirteen five and four instead of 513 for. So you know we're we're just at the spot mourns get stuck here. And I think I watched this team and I watch players not know whether supposed to be ICE the defense play the clock to spots and players are there whether it's. You know cool cough playing it's the wrong spot or someone not doing what they're supposed to be but they certainly do not look like a team that is. They'll look like a team that's well coached listed to be that's what I see we consistently hear that. And if it's not playing the system what is it now now it's a week we got to stop sitting back. This team sits back you know the theme sits back a lot last night not as much as some other nights there have been really bad years whether or really bad games as its name where they sit back and last night was not. As bad. Yes it is been far worse Toronto comes to mind recently but their been far or other games that they were just they could even get past like the Red Line debit them in the numbers are there we went through a couple weeks ago about the bearer of course he when they're up a goal and they're the worst team in the league and they keep dominated. Because they just sit back. So. What do you do you're you're in this spot no one's really all that surprised the up and down and up and down his back. Nim now. Now it's a three game losing streak I'm not that's why I said there were. To think he and full of tweets from that I just check this morning from overnight. And you know there are fairly angry sabre fans but. So I'm not angry this morning I mean who who didn't who didn't did anybody really believe this team is gonna make a run. They're not good enough and they have flaws and those flaws continue to be expose that and that you can tell. By the course of the season a win three the loose 30 win to the lose too though you know they just they're they go up and down up and down up and down. And to me as I said. It would have been nice I it would have been nice to quote stay in the hunt. I'd just I'd not expecting it anymore. Just make your books it's it's all about now what are you gonna do it that that actually. The trade deadline isn't really hard for Tim Murray. I don't think he'll make any significant moves I think you'll move off. The guys that you would expect him to move off the rental pieces so he gets something in return for players and at the open market I wouldn't expect. Came trade I don't expect. A big move from two Emery I think whatever big moves happen whether it's the coach whether it's McCain trade whether it's trying to get a top four defenseman I think all that stuff happens in the summer. So if I could speed things up I'd go right to the end of June and figure out what this team is gonna do to make this team better next season. Because they're not going anywhere this season they're they've pretty much been the same team for. But he Jack came back and November right so just three months this is pretty much who they are and say we know we're the make over needs to be taking care of now the question is when's he gonna get to it that's not gonna happen until the summer. They're just a terrible five on five team that's what they it's what they are their team that has had good goaltending and a good power play. And if they don't have that going a five on five they're gonna lose that's why they lost in Colorado as well lost to Arizona the F five on five is that the duke. I saw the stats and Reinhart who's nice player has won even strength goals plus 32 games. They don't score five on five and they also scoreless Jack cycle does everything himself off smoltz right. Like if Jack doesn't make it happen down the ice one way. Then they're not gonna get a puck possession and actually you know offensive zone possession and just. They're a team that to me looks like. Jack cycle is the guy who plays quarterback and receiver who throws in the areas around underneath it himself and catch it and jump over his head coach on the way like. I I watched this team and I think. There's no way did that they are mixing out of what they could beginning and I don't think they are him. From him specifically from from from their overall group of players from the coach there's no way the coaches matching out what they're doing they're just to me there's just no way. And every other team that is fired its its coaching dawn on Iran Florida did it the islanders did it Boston did it. But those three teams in the division or in the conference at least two in the division one of the conference. And they go out there run. They fire coaches that are much you know as much accomplished. Claude Julien won a Stanley copies with a team that seems to be out underachieving he's been there for ten years to make all famous one of their you know coach and boom gone. And and that's units in first place Montreal fires their guy and bring Simmons so fourteens in the east of fire their coach and this one's not. One of the well but like you said. We have this discussion with the bills I keep thinking about it going into the 20s17 season. Like what's the plan what's the goal what's the mission and I feel the bills make all the decisions based on doing everything they can to try to be a wild card team next year. I think the sabres what was the sabres mission this season you've brought it up policies with Tim Murray didn't. Montreal all my god we believe in the division all season long or falling apart fire the coach were were were trying to go for a cup now were in first place. Well yeah islanders a much many islanders turned their season around at that time. I don't know they were thinking we're gonna get on a run with Doug Weight is our coach and get into a playoff spot it might have been freed got to keep job to baron sappy but. Boston too I mean there are teams that aren't sitting there thinking what are we need to be in the playoffs we can make a run let's do this Dallas make a coaching change. What's the sabres mission this season I feel like this at the mission this season was. Let's take the next step with this roster we know it's not a finished product. If we can stay in the hunt all season may be get to the low ninety's. Our young guys can learn what it's like to go through the pressure of a season trying to win important games and be in a playoff race and then. Will make the moves we need to make to get to disrupt due to get rushed to a finished product point. I feel like this season was just the next step season for them all along well. You might want as I mean implements this an except he's it's a next step season in hindsight but it didn't have to be. Bring the leafs didn't even need an extent seasonally cigar go right into the playoffs are probably right you've got other teams that were right around you and are doing just fine. And you decide you need another step so I mean that's on the GM Tim Murray who is Penn have been very patient in this process. And if you're upset or you're impatient. I think you were off phone caller whatever your complaint goes right to his desk if you on the team and say. How come we're not better he would say we're taking a little bit more time and that's just the way that it's going to be. They might want to acquire a young defensemen at the deadline they want my one acquire young defensemen in the offseason but they're they're defense score they're blue line. It is either it has to be one of two it is either in my opinion. A huge whiff by Marie or misuse. Odd miles a month ago with a huge with primary. Because look off cooler cough had had a mostly men career with Florida. And then bright member when they when they made that trade and we talked to one of the guys who covers the Panthers you know I wasn't really good but then last year he was better. And he played well the playoffs for them go lookup was mostly a guy. Why don't think played at a consistent level from what you were telling us in Florida. Bogosian was Winnipeg Tyler Myers. And what does that leave us Josh Georgia's. Is it. He's a shot blocker and knee. That's about it. I mean you're you're looking at at a defense corps that was put together Georgia's prior but I think he whipped on cool accompany thinking well and Bogosian was your defensemen that doesn't play well enough. For our defensemen that doesn't play well enough and Bogosian is Tyler Myers. So both of those guys I think we're where it's cool golf his career he's had like a twenty point guy 28 points is his career high last jury had seventeen year before Tony to. This serious too. It's two points in 36 games. Right and he's been at times just crazy bad in his own end. I just gets caught up gets gets you know he's out of the play they're they're scrambling to cut I think I'm not gonna blame everything on gold cup but. I haven't seen anything from him he's if he's not gone by Wednesday at three whatever it at 3 o'clock. And be flattered Brett but I think that's unmarried and that's why said. I also think Tim Murray went into the season looking at it going. Next step. We're not contending. We're gonna give cooling needs a little more time bush looks good let's send them back to juniors and given more time local cop was supposed to be an upgrade yes he was much as you can point out that the other draft pick they got that deal and that player matters when evaluating the trade and that's right but he thought he was getting an upgrade. And it doesn't appear that they got an upgrade at all cook off right which was supposed to be. Top place for a year I'll just fence justifies getting the new contract because you knew when they got him his contract was going to be up. That's OK he'll play well enough they'll get an extension there's a top four guys than you have missed the line implicate cooler cough. Who leaked. And whatever else you gonna use to fill out your defense it's just. It's really surprising and if you think about it this way was this far and Tim Marie running this team and he has not. Yet in the open will be here soon goalies one. He does not have one defenseman on this roster that he brought that he brought in answer it contributes yeah. Not one. And is really not a hack our really nothing in Rochester unless you're crossing your fingers at Casey Nelson turned them were wrecked me and again goalie matters because they drafted him but it. How long has he been on the job to not have. One defenseman. One yet. That contributes. In a positive way it. That the players he's brought in have have been bad I mean. Fine you wanna say you bring in Bogosian given a shot that's fine and at the Kodak McCain and that he won it yeah of course of course it'd. And Bogosian is a throw and in that deal Bogosian is an acre in non factor in Georgia makes the team works. Look no nightly. Yeah checked the analytics for it. Watch the Debian project analyst from Georgia Isner gets so much ice time he makes the team works. And then there's school golf who has two points and 36. Games I don't mean this to be offensive to Taylor for Doumit is not a good sign on the rest of the group of defensemen. Not named were Salina and McCabe when you watch Taylor for doom play. And you say he's better than the other thing is also not a good look on the GM when you wave Taylor for doing instead of the other guys but maybe it's because of contracts and you figure maybe you can trade Georgia's record call for whoever that's gonna come off the headline here just George can't be on the team next year. Right I let go what next I don't Payer guy which he kind of already is well but I think. You know its bottom pair guy we're going to Bogosian is a bottom pair guy. And he's probably gonna be on the team who's taking that contract. I can't let both would be on the team so my guess is Georgia to be the guide ago. And there are going to be stuck with Bogosian in his Burgos and not should not be in the top foreign accent of course France and through friends and I I don't get mad about friends and you know we have you know what you had there you were signing a guy that was gonna be slow footed and hope that he can contribute offensively and that's pretty much what you have. But I just I'm when you when I. Put like that. This far and it's him Marreese tenure not one of his own brought in defenseman contributes to this team. That's a problem and maybe but there should be true next year that one should be there Chile and one should be whatever czar role brings in and a trade in his fourth year. One will be at one repeat what you want it maybe 22 goalie he's got him he's have to bring somebody in. Whether it's trade free agency I would say next season there will be two defenseman hear from Tim Murray Cooley and would ever other guy comes in to fill the top four. And you covers the line and McCabe Cooley other guy. And then your 56 is. Who oodles what maybe it Bogosian he still this is why any time McCain rumors come up but I'm gonna talk about my need to find a defenseman. And Cain. Coupled with things happen and it came over the weekend first or drag was on with the guys on my instigated some. And asked about Evander Kane Gregor talked about how it all sure he's playing well playing could sign an extension but I don't think that's likely. But he didn't he said that the idea that event or Cain would sign an extension this off season yeah he would not say it's likely. Would he get that from yeah Murray right I would get that from the sabres somebody inside the organization not all party maybe the agent major conduct the age in the aging got a feel from Jimmer is saying gable price market due to an extent right exactly what I mean is that if he gets from the agents somehow came through the sabres yes you would think so it's not that like him and then yesterday I saw there's a reporter Minnesota. Who would tweeted that the wild. Maybe this is before getting Marten Hansel. Eric angles is is the American angles is a I'm sorry sports net Montreal Canadians beat reporter that. The Minnesota Wild were in on Evander Kane. And I watched that Cain and the Minnesota Wild I've also seen a link for came to Montreal. And I'm listening to that all day every day because I know Cain is a good player. But if he's not gonna be resize and whether it's the sabres did have decided they can't trust him for his off the ice stuff. Or they don't think he's going to be worth the money or they don't think that they of the cap room if they're gonna be ready to move on. Then turned into something and I will get hung up on value but it better be on the Blue Line and Scott is how to be back there and it has. That he if he's gonna do that but I also badger council think that that's another move that if if Tim Murray makes it he's got them he's gonna make that in the summer when may be. They'll be a greater number of teams willing to move a top four defenseman because I'm not sure that you could find. You'd have to find well the consumer is looking for is gonna say you have to find the team right now. That is going to be in the playoffs needs Cain is part of that playoff push but is so deep in defense they'll give you one of their top four guys or are. To Emery goes for the goalie type player like the young guy who gee who's either. You know common at a juniors or has been in the minors and is ready to flourish in the National Hockey League and that team is willing to move that guy out for Evander Kane. So I I mean I've. There's no ifs ands or buts I'm not sure when Tim Murray addresses that but there's no ifs ands or but T well pastor reduce the defense. It would be nice and I'm sure there if the fans were being would be a little bidding courage to. If finds the more moving to the right into that they get they get out there I'm sorry go ahead nicest I don't did you say. If they could if they look like they're GM was paying attention. Because the whole year it's looked like a good. And go to this other great ever every single step of other way it's like having to fight and he might be right. But. It doesn't really do a lot for your fans that have been locked in and going through this process and now you see two games where you lose in regulation of the two worst teams in the league. And a fan might look at that and say. Eighteen and accountability and name anybody gonna know now we're just that's just par for the course that's just OK but he could say it's unacceptable. In the news except that derivatives back frank it's. I think it's a frustrating set of losses for sure I'm not shocked by it I think their coaches probably safe but. We'll see I mean Paul Hamilton said two weeks ago they were considering it well. If you're thinking about it. Take your chance when you've got it. These two losses could anybody blame them the league say if they if they fired miles with a Little League say like well let's be honest I think lost of the two worst teams in the league. I also think the league would look at it and at the very least someone might site Toronto of the feeling that maybe buffalo looks at and says. We've been passed already by Toronto and that the sabres with the injuries in taken into consideration. That the sabres haven't made the strides they were supposed to make this season. When all said and done I didn't even project out 62 what they headed for likened mid to upper eighties points season right idea. When all is said and done. Will be a few points behind the pace we thought they would be at and we'll factory in the ankle injury and they probably still would have been in the race but. It's just an eyeball test but as I said. I I think this season was all about. I don't think there was any urgency this season for timber at the end he'd that he decided let's play this outlets he ought everybody and maybe that seat to all the way down. Maybe there's no urgency maybe to no urgency this year and hey what are you know our team to look like it either right. It's possible I just I never got a sense that the that they were hell bent under him eleven I had to take that to win this season. And get in the playoffs you know I just don't feel that way.