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And he's always an imminent Jeremy whites. Title Bozo carries over the line right wing takes a shot blocker like free just. Regardless of the opponents can happen and just go feel that I Avery you you have the two points in your back pocket and he loves to avoid. Comes a transition. It's Forsberg. Now the right side crossing the line he's take another shot and he carries the winner. How can you live close though we get a win it's frustrating for everyone here. Number of these who absolutely are looking for an upgrade. On that somebody that they can inject into their top six non WG ER Sports Radio 515. Holiday day Wednesday deadline day here now. I price tag deadlines as begins at eight hours of radio for me yet. Let us people wore Qaeda hours every day you. Yet microphone jockey we started we were we were more than eight hours people you know it's it's. It's the trick plays that are in the that nobody sees that's very clearly see the hours we work beyond the hours here on the air but this could be big I've got I got some support that could be good news or could be bad news for the eight hours okay well as those who don't you know spend eight hours talking about last night's game I think no good news I've played -- but that. Why. When Iran for trade deadline coverage rate hours like the guys that TS that are going to be a forever today. And the deadline hits at 3 PM yeah and the NHL has a bunch of guys get traded clicked the day before right and two days California. What what Adam silver do let's play what what Adam silver duke and I can I just play the role that I'm sober for a minute. I'd like to do some things for her to return to copy your what you're saying is he would look at it goes it's killing the drama of the trade deadline we'd have to do some I don't see it's killing it I just wanna say. Ha can I can get to this any better so here's my 532. Here's how it should go. The should be a trade window. You shouldn't be allowed to make trades two days before the deadline a window should open and that window should be for. Maybe even just twelve hours from 9 AM eastern to 9 AM this denying him 9 PM eastern. Twelve hours that they in the EPL they've transfer window that kind of opens for longer stretches than that but then. They talk about the transfer window closing instead of just having this. You know spot where anything can happen right until 3 PM also. 3 PM. Hey your hockey fans might have job except that you know they might wanna go to work they I wanna be productive. How about you don't play any games on the night of trade deadline or there transfer window closing. And it runs up till 9 PM. And the NHL networking covered extensively if you want you know at the NFL had one of these you'd have Ed werder and ballas talk to one of the cowboys going to be like. It can kind of be a mini draft yet. So hey hockey if you ever want to make this thing a little bit better. Make it a television event I mean sports are supposed to be television events and how long was it until they actually started to televise the lottery right. That but the thing entitlement on the lottery summit got to watch them dropping pong balls her well again now I watch the NHL lottery in addition to the NBA La course. Before I do want it televised they just make it a price but see you try to think like how many hours. You said twelve there is an element out trade calls paperwork and all the stuff yet to be jammed in and if you're like I was thinking if you're really wanted to do it it would be a prime time special agree it would be. Everybody gets on well screw the West Coast most everybody gets home from work. It's like the political 10 PM as of right now the West Coast deadline is noon yet so it's like they're missing I think if you if you did like tonight on the NHL network its trade deadline seventeen and you have Micah. Four hour primetime special at night. But then I wonder the NHL can actually have all their trades jammed in and take David Harris elite and jammed it you can make it a 24 hour period you would just tried to and I get it like. What you also have is if you're trying to acquire Kevin Chen Kirk I gotta get him in line because I play tonight sure. So have. In Britain could mixes in with your bye week have on night the league is off tonight. It's deadline nine. And a lot of these players are wondering where they're gonna go the NHL wants to blow the doors off coverage of it. When you really think about it for this to be one of the bigger days in the NHL. It happens at three in the afternoon and where does it happen. It happens on Sports Radio stations like I mean I guess that's great frost but I would think that your broadcast partner if you had won the cared or if you cared about them well don't run an initial network like when they pull a but I think mediating NBC sports network you planned to show Philadelphia and Colorado last night and actually bump that the Rangers. By captors and a good little dinner yes it was spot hey we've got a huge event for our sport. Well we're talk about all the players all the playoff teams are gonna look. The Kindle to make this thing into more of an event of course you know the league doesn't really see things that way I've pointed out many times. If you don't know the expansion draft you'd think well that'll probably be alive event right. Note all the biggest nighters and handed a piece of paper and leave will then two days later tell you who's on the team yeah there's no special to it. There's nothing so you have another opportunity for television event now may be a Marty punchy eight minutes into an eight hour of trade deadline coverage day but. You know you want Kelly to spice up a bit it would and it wouldn't Ilya encourage it to be seen. You two year barking up the wrong tree because it NBC SN. One of the carry trade deadline coverage today I mean where do you wanna start mustered three journey to the hammers infect you got motor club to got grudge race journey to the hammers it probably the last and that's probably worth watching okay so the they actually go to hockey game tonight but again you would have a completely off night or tea today off and instead of NHL live at seven in the penguins and Blackhawks palace tonight. Tonight's primary night the night you love to hate. Instead of that you would have no games and you'd have NB CS and bringing new. After NASCAR America at 6 o'clock tonight or whatever I was like excuse rivals by the way right now you right they've placed summit Obama in the playoffs season. The plane greater sees more than twice by a huge you know what the other part of trade deadline day today for me is. Really like it's it's so ho hum there's two things I thought of one let someone tweeted within the last twenty minutes. So what's your big surprise your Saber surprise trade today and and they suggested fully nor Gergen since I wrote back would be surprised by either guy. As I wouldn't be surprised it came which traded I don't expect it ascribe to be liked. Right arch traders like somebody you know being idea. That's a surprise full Leno in Jergen since our surprise it what is it yes it would be from you expect it I don't expect this would not expected not a surprise it's in the middle of the elect. Really they traded Leno okay but I wouldn't be what stage like this prize is you text me page here they just traded fully know. Yeah me like that's a surprise now would not be my reaction to fully in order incidents. They're both they're both in the last year of the contract there are faced when talking about guys that are you have to have them on your roster going forward are nice players. But some real surprises. Wait a minute that guy that I was in Mike my fault he's in my group who he's out this roster going for my. Final product as it were were probably splitting words or semantics here I will I will I will be surprised if they deal in gear innocence or fully know I certainly won't be shocked like. I don't expect any significant trade happened today that tonight Korea surprised to shock enemy I'd love something that shows me the direction of the team. If there's any disappointment comes out today that's probably what it is that they trade cool call for a third them and they trade. Franzen for a conditional third and that's the end of the day there was there was guide Edmonton suggesting the euro's might wanna bring back knows he'll Sullivan backup tell so a fourth round if they trade those three guys that's all well and go to bed at some traffic spoke what do my GM tell me about my team. Nothing right I just told me my today says ho hum well to say that's why if you get a trade of cure against injury a traitor for Leno and there's something coming back it has to be a hockey trade we guess like an AHL defenseman oral or prospects that is in juniors you know yesterday we talked to John Shannon. Asking about Montreal and he said the not a regular targets have they got this other kitten the western hockey league but to me. That's at least something right and that's not acquiring picks read the sabres traded for Matt bode herb is a body that met bode yesterday for game cannot she. And the best thing I can tell you about Matt bode as he went to union college and there's a player Union College right now it's awesome. So old maybe he can give McCall he was on their national championship team is right at you and so they. You don't really find out too much about your team on a day like today unless they do something like that and I'm not expecting. I'm not either but what the sabres traded Cassie and for Hodgson a bit of a surprise if you go to that deadline thinking all right what are we gonna try to get her point across that they trade Paul Gossett for a first round pick your happy about that. But there's no direction your franchise and then the hots and deal happens and you think well. Aren't all discuss picked tenth overall and the GM is bringing him in to be one of our senators of the future but didn't work. But like at least there was something on that data think my team's a little different today I've got a window into what my GM is looking at. And what are the odds we get there from Tim Marie today I would say they're probably not great that OK that I. OK maybe like I said may be surprised I'm not sure surprise as equally shocked rabies prices lower than shock. I I am expecting rental players for draft picks that that's what I think the Buffalo Sabres will do. Maybe I should just say beyond that I'd be surprised you know Mike I bring his moves I think it's hockey traits are in the summer I don't think he's making knocked traits that my dream is to trade Gergen since for a defenseman today. I I'll I would not expect a third pair defenseman us about a second pair defenseman and HL defensemen can I find it seemed wants them specifically. Send us your incidence. He's fine. He's cost controlled he's an RFA they'll play penalty kill hill play five and you don't know California who aria yeah Anaheim. Point you got can I have that kind of Brandon month tour straight up particular instance I I don't know what they would place their value on their young defenseman. There there's also in the middle if you root this there's also something changing about value. I had an email about Evander Kane right Kane scores again lastly his shooting percentage is insane he's having a hot stretch here. Who has more value on the trade market Cain or knee Lander. While I guess it depends what team I'm talking to it probably does you know if I'm talking to a team that say Chicago is going for another cup what they want some more scoring and their. Loaded with defenseman. They would make a trade for candy wouldn't want necessarily Neil under the new lender gets and cost control. I exact it depends on the team you're talking to. And I at your goal for the cost control and that's what I was like what agent Cain doesn't give you cost control your Montreal got a big contract after Montreal who has a wanna give a regulation in a month and can't score. You go for Cain and say he is for hot tip of the cap room and say when he's got to score for us this year or next year like listen we're we're in position we need to store. What are my giving up America. Probably. Here's some picks and prospects might try to win I can't give you anything that's gonna weakened my team right whereas with knee Lander if I portrayed mile and I'm not advocating treated dealer. Tundra par value here at finding. Insert team here Arizona. I'd say our cost control top ten Winger who. I mean they would just scouted him we generate very highly we'd like quite a bit. Yes sure we have to defenseman here's a defenseman of equal value and for that knee lender makes perfect sense they're still putting together their roster they would love a young guy even if easier ways still doesn't matter for that right how long it's on the UN to make six million dollars a year. Well six years yeah wrecked a long and that's provided he ever does it now you'd you'd never know he's gonna give you thirty goals like came very welcome and but the idea that you rather trade knee Lander then Cain I I get that that's an easier piece to get rid of it all soul might not get she was much. Just because you don't. Necessarily have any guarantees with Cain if if somebody offer you the first from take. And a whatever and a prospect. That you thought was okay. You'd think. Where I alternate for some taken as something the odds that you turned that into another Cain are very very low. And I don't expect kaine today I think you just laid out the scenario if McCain if canes being traded he's getting you a top defenseman. And I'm not sure that another William had wrecked another jam who's who's reading his team for a playoff run is gonna give up atop the unless it's a guy and that's why when we talked to John Shannon yesterday. I asked about. Circuit chip fees not consistently in their line up there if he's back in junior so. Hey you're trying to go in Stanley Cup Claude Julianne and you've got to defenseman and I know he stressed very highly but he's not on your team social what did you take this guy. Dick Cain and will take you got it's not on your team now facility and our team next year. And I think that that's the second part as the thinkable blog in brat when they had Paula on yesterday the second part of the deadline date today is. I'm only expecting rental guys maybe even two maybe three amateur the Gionta would move today. Some expecting recognized for pics not the most exciting day when it comes to trade deadline. Which you miss the days when there were like the sabres were buyers. Like when they were wrecked in the plight only should we should relive. Deadlines gone but I mean that is is were we talk about died zoo literally saw like Henry I am about Robby Parris who is great academic scores two goals in his first game Steve Bernie Steve bird droppings or there was some. Bye ya ya ya ya there were so. But but at least you know he quit the trade Bob corkum with the trade deadline day thing thinking what they're gonna have they're gonna but they're gonna get people. You know hockey trades aren't necessarily trade deadline day but it's. I'm just tired of being insular world time like yeah I'd I would that's why can't wait for the summer because I think timber has no choice he estimate. At least one if not multiple hockey trades this summer to make. Mean you watch it again last night the how bad was even crystal light crystal light and caught the disease the rest of the defensemen have been there's something to talk about well. If your coaches losing a lot of your players he's losing wrist the line and because there's the line and doesn't know what to do you look if you lost last night. I'm sorry that Canada though that's fine. It was so frustrating watching him like Goshen I expect a coach in to say hey Mike Fisher here take the middle of the guys are trying to catch up to you. You don't you don't expect much him and Georges in public golf but. Just delighted it's like giving guys carte Blanche trips to the gold last night he's just what does Joseph. He looked lost their bailout losses team they of course and at yeah I'd. Go ahead cools off a school look off practice with the team this week. How about the ocean. Bogosian and I'm on Fisher's goal we're letter trust about and stop Bogosian just gives in the middle of the ice. And even on the Forsberg game winning goal. It I know it's two on one I think right arts getting into the past is actually stepped up its felt. Burton he's their best player this to be like letting Ike packing up and letting Michael shoot. Wouldn't do that surely there in my in my word about the two on one. They take Forsberg out running I'm gonna let him get to the circle and then ripped a wrist shot into the top shelf the same thing called a let me. Yeah paid by the way it's good that I'm still angry when they lose games on that means I still care. Bloc the thinking about a last night the mobile's much for the how many how many times a series you said. We're not coaching them to sit back another setback I believe he's not coaching them to sit back but he's also someone's going to he's also not coaching them to sit back when they're losing or when they're tied. They get a shot all the time. They have the same problem. With a different solution. Us the same problem they did reach tank. Same problem and the problem is they never have the puck puck and you know what if you watch it again just one now you're gonna say. Hey guys they got outshot badly in the third. Yes they did seventeen to six guess what it was sixteen to six in the second. Yup they were still get dominated in the second. When they believe it was what two to one that was sort of based got outshot badly on the way to getting another two goal lead and then in the third period. Certainly the last half of the third period it was just let's chipped the puck out of the zone. On the fourth goal the game tying goal for rob Nashville. The sabres are all inside the Red Line anybody wanna get over their blue line maybe put some pressure on the break out pass anybody. They just sat back and chipped the puck out and said let's just not attack on offense so they do that and you know you you brought up the tech numbers and and I was another point I was gonna make I apologize it just absolutely escapes my mind. But they don't try and attack on offense and and whether Bob was coaching it or not coaching it. War you know Paul keeps talking about how players are are afraid to make a mistake so. You know they're sitting back because they're worried about making mistake it's happening for some reason. And you're not attacking and you sat back last night and you get the puck out of though I guess what nationally get correct back I know the other point. You don't gonna do one of these days. I'm I'm not gonna pay attention to I would love to do is make of this DVR gaming go back. I'm not gonna pay attention to anything all the gonna do is chart every break outplayed by the sabres and she how many times the first passes off target. Is not the way it's behind a player it's if it does not allow them to have speed going up ice. Why are they carrying the puck up wire guys trying to carry the puck up they can't. After each other and move the play up buys they don't have speed going out of their own and I I've watched it a few times last night and I realize it was can I set I was curious I'd love to take a game and shark. What happens coming out of their and did they chip it out today passed it out to carry it out and how successful our day. On that first pass to gained some speed through the neutral zone and go on a rush it doesn't happen. Big turn the puck over it's not the way if something happens and all of a sudden boom you're going back the other way and you're sitting round. But it happens so many times last night. And then you have these defenseman and these breakdowns in their. They give up more shots than any team in the league. As it that was supposed to happen that no that's it. More than anything new at five on five they give a more shots than any team in the league. So miles I can say that he's not tell him sit back I think they sit back pretty much from the opening faceoff. They are a team that cannot consistently possessed the talk the numbers in the first period in a Saber that really good first period there up to one. Possession numbers the sabres and the puck in the offensive zone for two minutes of a point. National headed in the buffalo zone for six and a half. Who got a own this market that's not good and I was and appeared ran and have a two nothing lead until we we we went through this with a tank I think about the game they played in Toronto or Jack had three assists and hold on to win it 321. Well I gaga they held on those same game is all there are others to rattle came at them. Like a blitzkrieg and they've withstood it Leonard made their big saves so. The sabres are built to or at least had the way they play. Is to give up more shots than any team in the league and hope their goaltending in the power play helps them out and there are. Freakish puck carrying senator can go and and and route one that's the game plan and their freakish puck carrying senator set up a game winning goal last night but mr. Bogosian decided to miss the net effect. It up so you know if it's a lot of things about where the team is it doesn't assuming it to freak out and figured eternally doomed. But Tim Murray this is the point we made a big earlier in the week Tim Murray got the job in 2014 in his 2017. He has not brought on one significant defenseman. I mean goalies on the way in goalies know lock. Police's best hope right now and a team that he picked up and was horrible at possession that he made worse so the good tank which is good thank them. Is still. Horrible possession. Howell long until I can watch the Buffalo Sabres look like they're skating on the same level with NHL teams. Do the what they of that road trip against Colorado and Arizona would actually had more shots you know why those two teams are also terrible possession that match up against any team that can have a block the Saber dream smoked. They're just they're just in rag doll nightly. And whether it's coach forth its risks the line and our McCabe or wherever it might be your possession numbers are awful. And they have been awful it's why watching the team is kind of boring. Because you go through hope. Periods they can graciously and appeared for you know great the at six in the second and six in the third. There outshot what. Then after the first period of his 32 tempered 33 to twelve. Nice I mean you get an odd and end at that point there was a tie game and 3312 is that to the end of the game. That that does not include over talking second and third you're gonna say because they got all shots and right time because they had the they had the puck for the first three minutes. Right with a power play and everything. They are national only got one shot and over time they scored on it and they are they are and I've I've I've got a little bit of a rant. Ready to roll about the idea that they were ever gonna be buyers. You know we talked about this and Marie kind of played within please. How how how senseless is it. To say. Well if they were like four to six points ahead of where they are now they should go get a player we wouldn't I wouldn't can help them be another four to six points better I. If that Trace their go do what before you need the four to six points. You need it now. That you're you're gonna wait until today to decide whether or not you needed another player to help your team if there's an offense felt that I could help you you need him four games ago you need them yeah ago not to work that night if you're gonna make the save the arbitrate. Forty games ago and you sure as hell shouldn't make it today and now they're selling their cell. And for awhile. That there is this is that this is Denny Green they are who we thought they are they're 500 hockey team and even with cycle their only slightly above 500 you know since he came back at the end of November. 80 it is straight day today by the way 8030550. Sabre fans to join us and express your opinion on what today should be all about for your hockey team. The continuing coverage of the NHL trade deadline. Is present about value home center shop quick shopping easy shot value also brought you by the Riviera theatre set the stage with the historic Riviera theatre. By holiday. And leisure ranks home to dip in dots all ages fifteen and under league you can sign up now. And by low C engaging workers' compensation personal injury attorneys working hard. Hardworking Western New York she beat you give us your thoughts on the game last night we always talked about game this season. Trade deadline day today what is there a what what in your opinion what would surprise you today and they everybody's expecting right cooler coffee and gulf Franzen can go. Maybe Gionta maybe Nielsen guys sure rental players what would surprise you today. In terms of Tim Murray in a move the sabres could or should make eagle 30550 join us 888550 to 550. It is a big debt we have the trade deadline. Franchise tag deadline today the Buffalo News reporting the bills will not put the tag on Stephon Gilmore. The folks are in Indianapolis gathering for the come on Sean McDermott. Will meet with the media later this morning around 915 Sal is out there will be covering that will be talking around bouts and bill stuff today as well what. We might hear from Sean McDermott today that's coming up on WGR. Arab meting out. Of course you need to Rivet you to your of that trade between Washington. At the same time it's really all depends on college here to create a little bit leveraged and how much interest is there a coma cop as that extra defense doesn't mean we know that Calgary is looking forward to that and still they don't think they have enough depth who else's notes there that it might get there like that this deal over here and you bittersweet in the pot and that's really what it's all. John Shannon of sports net join us yesterday can find an undermanned but why would you do that or live covering the NHL treated like national beats buffalo 54 in overtime. Philip Forsberg. He's good off his goals goals were few wonderful well mart near rad do last night. Where is where he is he even at these days. They will host. Arizona. Baltimore audit campus Saturday and I threw up on the world trade deadline is at 3 o'clock how much drills and David they are native Edmonton. For a defenseman Brandon. Brendon Davidson Chicago gets Johnny Dubya back Montreal gets Steve pot from Detroit Yang for. Big playoff Detroit trades friends Smith to the Rangers. And San Jose gets Donna kansans from Vancouver. NFL news big purchase about the owners reporting no franchise tag for to find Gilmore what charged that talk about has been telling us pretty effectively all along the way lighten up again it's gonna happen. Jets released a realm Revis chiefs release Jamaal Charles Minnesota declines the option on Adrian Peterson. And at the saints are going to release chair sport it's us sell speculate that may be he would come back. His father works here and Sean McDermott's defensive system might be friendly to Gerris birdie and you never know Kevin Durant hyper extended knee. MRI results today there thinking he could he could miss some time and you be beat Ohio 8379 to tie for second place in the Mac Bonaventure lost those are sports headlines next update away at the top of the hour. So it's trade deadline day in the NHL today sabre fans we you can talk to us about last night's game if you want eagle 30515. You can also doctors about. Deadline today you'd think Franzen gonna go and cool cops gonna go mention their recess and speculation in Edmonton that they might wanna bring back Anders Nilsson to back up. Camp how that we've talked about possibly Brian Gionta is in the last year of his contract. But he can and he has a list of five teams he'd be willing to accept the tray too so what would surprise you today. From the sabres. Is there a player or their players that they would move that would surprise you as I said. You know I I and maybe it's that strict definition of terms I would not expect fully know or Gergen sins but if either one which traded it would not. Surprise me that's Jimmer was moving on from one or two or both of those guys I I don't expect. You know OK I would be surprised if Cain is traded today. Do not expect that to happen I would expect the sabres to. Hold on McCain get through the season and then figure out in the summer what are we gonna do about this are we gonna trying to extend his contract can we make all this room fit. Has he behaved himself that we believe he's gonna be okay if we get more long term deal. And he might have more teams Murray would have more teams going after women's summit and what I'd be surprised if Cain has moved today but I. Wouldn't be surprised if either a fully know or Gergen senses. Moved to fetch something to help this team in terms of depth. Flipping forward depth to help defenseman depth is something to Emery knows he has to do today so we'll talk about that we'll get some football matters do. I just kinda I thought the Gerris Burge ship that sailed. I saw the does the story about him getting he's going to be released and I thought. Meet personally might Jerry spurred ship has sailed I would not expect him to be back here I could see him want him to be here. But I you know he was cut up and down in New Orleans and that was. That actually turns out to be a good move the bills didn't make giving him a big contract so I wouldn't I wouldn't be going after Gerris bird come back here. No me either I wanted abolish Shawn McCoy about. Charles Jamaal Charles got released yes Minnesota declined yacht is a major Peterson. Big Jamaal Charles the headline I saw was like who would have thought this a year ago. That's how it happens and running backs right he had a couple years now our PS really banged like me the idea that McCoy is just going to be helped because he always has been. Mean it did it just happens quick like life comes at you fastest they say if you're Jamaal Charles you're on top of the world to unemployed. Pretty quickly any I think he's still you know I think he could still play but. He's got such. Big knee injuries the last few years I I'm not sure you know that the guy who's not only a running back duties of the receiver to an all around football and there but what's left in his knees they've got Spencer ware who had a good season decides to do speller via. Troupe such words big part of my fantasy team so they got a soft department the spot spot my heart for him you know. He's a winner he's proven he can win just be careful about that fancy football that the got to Richmond baseball team in trouble I heard about that. They got suspended from play fantasy football as you've apologist but stuff I don't wanna go off and attentive NCAA that we'll save that for another day. What I wanna I'd trade deadline day when I want out today. Prospects over picks that that this second round pick won't get me excited. Third round table first round pick would not even get me as excited as potentially the right prospect could. The job the conducts picked up Jonathan dollar write in exchange for Alex burrows. To me that's alt. I can probably count on this guy maybe being on my team someday. I don't have to wait to the draft and then taken in the second round and and talk about three years from now it's dollar and now he is in my prospects for the sabres could use. 15. Defenseman in their prospect also. Tre cool cough. You know we we used to do this with dom but whether I'm just look at the guy they got from San Jose for Hanson is another prospect prospect to be a good player so they put gold Goldman is that the guy nickel gold over the couple PCI and that they they feel go to find me those picks finally those traits. Find me we did this a while back remember this is also pre tank would look at every single team that wanted somebody and say all right. Who is dissent around their depth chart that's the highest up but not on the team I want him. We just kept doing that over and over again constant would have been one of those kind of guys that's ram now who's the best defenseman that you'll give me and what will it take to get them. That's why keep bringing a month touring in Anaheim or -- and in Anaheim or maybe shake Theodore I think is the other third guy they got three guys what's it gonna take to get one of those guys. Nick and I think that's what if yours if your as a sabre fan. I think that's the best case scenario to hope for today I think today will probably be all about. Rental guys for pecs as you said. No one's thrown a parade if they you know here's a draft pick for cooler copiers or draft pick for France and here's draft pick for Nelson Ellen's gonna throw operate but if instead they trade those three guys and -- sins or someone of that level and they get a commitment to young defenseman to a defensive back prospects that are in the HL that. One could make the leak next year yes now you're talking I think that is your best case scenario for deadline day today for the sabres because. I'm not expecting hockey trade but if you can move parts out. For guys that. You know even if even if the guy doesn't come into play right away but you're looking at a guy who's you know hopefully here next season at the very least. You know is in the mix it training camp to be in your top six yes I think that that would make for a very enjoyable day for me. Because again this is not we're were a few years ago where you're stockpiling draft picks. And you just want assets so you can use the draft pick yourself and bring players in the organization or you could spin draft picks. And and and for you know make it make other tradable these extra draft picks now I think it at this point now. Everybody here has had enough of trading for draft picks the rentals you're stuck you know. But I think everybody is that enough for trading draft picks if he can get somebody pick do I give Vancouver trade. And bring in a young defenseman who is here next year or maybe even start the season in Rochester and plays well enough but he comes up here. I think that would be. A good day for timber that's about all I would expect from him today I don't I don't expect blockbuster deals no cup people are angry and Twitter they said fire sale Todd. I don't expect any of that stuff. Text. If you guys were Tim Murray would you trade away Gionta in your instance Gergen since yes. Became a one year one million dollar deal there you know they out of a bit too much faith in him even if he's having a nice year right now. They might want to move him but then there's a point to move them there as he's not lost anymore he's playing a little better now maybe summit a look at and got gavel that got our system and we can get something out Gionta is a tough decision Chris Baker made this point. On Twitter yesterday Chris Baker sabres prospects he. He said this town this team. Used to have a recruiting problem right nobody wants to come here you know I don't think that's really true anymore that no one wants to we've seen players sign here. But they're recruiting problem. Maybe don't trade your captain. When he says I don't wanna be traded via the captain doesn't wanna be traded he scored last night and is beyond is that the nice goal to veteran goal. Geographic can play for me next year. You know I'd like to get in the bottom six move but he can play for me next year and if he doesn't wanna be traded. I think there's a case to be made you know what. Their respective veteran he's our captain and I wanna maybe bring him back next year kind of cheap salary subtle way to do that. Is to keep me in his home with his family and say. About one more crack at this thing for all I don't know X amount of dollars but I'll bring in a what if I mean if if you like it's the most value yet. We're talking Gionta for draft pick I could careless. But if the scenario you described a moment ago if there's some combination of of players that can get Chu a good young defenseman a prospect defenseman from the AHL. Who's hopefully here next season if not is only one year away from being here. I can move on then I would move Gionta if that's part of the deal that that improves might buy defensive depth tonight and I've talked to Bryant say hey Brian. We want to bring you back to you wanna be here yes I know I can try and sign him in the offseason he'll be a free agent on July 1. I understand how would look. Trading the captain and all that stuff but if he gets me eat these in the deal that gets me someone to help my defense of group. That gets into that top six going forward I would move Brian now and explain it to him and say we still want you we want to back care. And we're gonna make this team better next season to you can be here when we improve will sign in free agency to a one year deal to your deal and I would still move Brian Jia. 8030515. To join us 88 550 to 558 straight. I'm de Saber graduate talk to you on WGR David in the falls here on WG yarder right ahead. They're good we'll show arm I have a prospect but I kind of took an eye on armed. He can't do groups younger brother a third jordin Toobin he's in Vancouver replacement date chart you may have been called we actually Bart. He's got like fifteen goals. Got a one pharmacists there might be that top. A guy who's been and they HO Vancouver. And it's already from any actual next year. And got the size two got the credit read the blogs and I just wanted to see what our start or all hang up the most. I wish I would have paid attention to petty play for Utica the other night I would have paid any nation he actually it was a game right there right with I mean. I think you're on it and whether he's the guy. If that's the kind of player they bring back a 21 year old who's been in the NHL primarily. You know he's been offense defense and if you go back to his junior nuggets and the stage exactly played a lot of time isn't juniors news's first year in the NHL like. I don't all these good I haven't seen a lot of him. And it we knew bogged down with a million names. But that's what I'm talking about thought yes sign me up like sign me up for him the puck moving. Scoring. Defenseman that appears to be close or can go into my my second pair. Because I'm gonna try and find other pieces on defense though the way I look at this team next year I've got three players on defense may before. It's McCain Bristol line and and hopefully they bring back for doom. But the way you see a tweet from. Problem Buffalo Sabres stats put out this we yesterday the sabres record with Purdue and vs sabres record with George's in the lineup. Sabres put this out no all it's no facilities are sabres that's their record with Purdue and a 613 seven and two mocha. And with George there below 500. Now I'm sure there are a few different circumstances. But this tale of do re tweet that and retreated that Tim Murray. I don't know but he is of all the players they have and I'm sure the sabres would tell daylight are pleased to mark he's not that good we had Jack had good games. They'll Purdue and has seven points. Is more points then Georgia's more points than cool look off right. Eight the coaching at a point last nine makes it I think he's at the seven now right seven because when the Taylor Purdue at seven right he got a point how many goals and give up. And they wave to do and he got through so we know how good can anyone think he is because he got through but. But teams could be wrong. So to the caller yeah that that's kind of aura is fines mean a defenseman. That Tim Murray can say we like this guy we think he's got an NHL future. 8030550. To join us on trade deadline day 888550. To 515. What can sit rigid it would surprise you today on trade deadline day. You can grab a line and share we'll get some I said we'll get some football matters to south gonna join us led this morning from Indianapolis Paul Hamilton will be at. At the arena eventually and be camping out there today for trade deadline day he would join us at 730. Mike rubber tie is going to be here at eight in studio with a one goal show and you can join us at any point at 8030550. Or 88550. To 550. When we get back. I gotta start making the list I was brings up a show and I never remember to make the list I have another. Fabulous Christmas gift idea for my cohost I think this is the one. I probably shouldn't share because that would ruin surprised but a whisper we get back. And it sort of gave you a little bit more about it podtrac. You know maybe it's cool sea floor or help adults that we would have been the last couple years. As Scott Burns idea yet as the price is right field right yeah thank. That's your Christmas gift what do you think I want it. Did we got a press I get a press release and it's who are gonna press release that the cal expo because bass hall fame had a new Bobble head for the reds dugout is the national Bobble head hall of fame and museum OK go did you know there was a bobbled off and I didn't bother it but I got that email that said Syracuse is 2003 national championship. Bobble head. And I thought who. What are we gonna buy this and I couldn't vital link to buy it don't why can you buy it yes I want yeah they can connect imaging now what do you wanna wait till Christmas now as good argument and now. Bit it'll be you know what. A house that's I just found your wedding gift. 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But at least I know you're taking care for either your wedding or Christmas mean to prepare perfect thank you for. You could I have to tell you successful that I mention I do this. Interval Tony in Pittsburg Texas means that Kelly about cooled off. Yeah because maybe Pittsburgh's team that wants the add some more defensive depth and I'll tell you what I said about cooled off and then I want it I want should tell okay what he wrote back. He asked me if this with the sabres be interested in II wan link when add one thing about cool cop that. Wish I should have said yes and I didn't democratic a practice. It's. He could be playing injured basic because he sits there as young as he got injured if he's if he has back issues. I I would of device than to sit out and get healthy but it's entirely possible some of these struggles this season. Are due to him playing through some kind of back pain and maybe that's messing up what he can and can do on the ice glad I had to we didn't bring it up yesterday. I mean I don't think any saver and it's been happy would this play. But I thought about it I don't want to be one of these things where this gets done. He gets traded he goes elsewhere it turns out the guy was playing with a you know a busted disk or something all season long he he I think he has been injured for most of the year so here's what I wrote. About who look off to enter Phil pony asking me about. Tell about the sky lectured a show I've been pushing for this the penguins to try to get him. I wrote start of the year heard on a freak accident which is true right and I keep going to the big open door about exactly. Hasn't fit in at all two points in 36 games the lowest points per game ready defenseman in league getting eighteen plus minutes that's dead last behind Josh Georgia's. Two point he is never worked out. Defensively there's little to get excited about offensively he has been a zero the only goalie scored the sabres trailing five to nothing at a time Britain found that for us a couple of days ago. He supposed to and a puck mover a power play guy to. They are a bad team with a great power play and a black hole. Needing a puck mover at five on five and he has two points. Is it files month is that the injury is that the fit who knows but looks like he does know the system. It's the chicken or the Agha. Cooler coffee has the most glaring drop of any defenseman on the team in points per game both for this year. And points per game this year Bogosian is having a bad year but it's not that far off right cook off. Is off a cliff with his production this year. So. That was my responsible telling local golf. It might it might be not a lot of his fault here. But he's been almost nothing he asked me because they're still looking for another defense right there in on Jack and Kirk with the sabres be interested in Marc-Andre flurry. To which I said. I tried. I tried any number of ways to think how they possibly could. His is be tied into the expansion draft that's what I'd steal letting academics when I asked how many years does he have left two years after this year they know. I can't imagine taking flurry lesser doing it as a favor. And getting a prospects. And exposing flurry hoping he gets taken but if he doesn't. I've got lettering for public know. Just no way if Murray moved to a different goaltender this year. If you know he sometimes complains about criticism. You wanna hear criticism move on from Leno right away all afternoon event first round pick that it becomes piling on you already there this guy is in good enough for you. You know look. I I'm sure will be some people if when he trade school lookup. There may be some people would be you know you you get up at six for this guy and he's gone by you know march 1. Nydia hopefully asked blur yeah Aspen came in that deal with the pick that they eventually they got to pick and used announcements are made that. Helps you but sheriff they move gold cup you think gave up for you give up that's it for this guy and he was horrible there's no way you move on from liner. Letters played well and missing out last night but Lennar has played well this season as the sabres number one goaltender I'd be for the most surprised if he's done. Yes I did you have about one more save the game here you know collect about one more last night they need one yeah and whether it's Johanneson goal he needs that. I need one more minute maybe it's the Neil goal or he. You know those the Dominic washing dive in a couple bad bounces that that goes in otherwise do nothing go to the end of the first half court you know don't come out trying to challenge Fisher you know it it is only Mike Fisher's not leave Forsberg was bearing down on MA because a stayed in the net let Fisher come to him. John in Charlotte you're on WGR go right ahead. We're airplanes are as good thank you. Aren't what they're talked well about I mean aren't going to be very fair but I kind of soured on and at last year's draft. So while you're human belt. They needed it. Top two it left and besides there's going India are these. Air and then you acknowledge that are expected stepped in to help. And so there first there were the rumors about it Holler but there and then but at our and then it's sort of forward recovery. And then and aren't the tree comes in the second round and I see that were cool calm over the off while Mike OK like. This is great like or actually finally have the decides that it partly addressed questions and and he ships out of the and then it took forever with the pit. And I was just sitting there is sticking like we can get better at all during that draft yet obviously you entered apps were made. It got aren't sure what they're they have let. Water out of the top ten prospects. That aren't in the organizational depth chart of the defense picked up our perhaps all and good judgment. I yet John I was on the draft coverage and I was Andrew Craig and they were very. Puzzled by a selection before and I was at Q when they acquired cooler Coughlin thought that's great. At the expense of other defensemen. That's not so great defense and when you seem to fit what NHL defenseman should be these right and it doesn't pass it is not anything wonderful please better than a lot of guys they have. And that night my feeling was. And kind of what they had Kool cough and classic. Because that looks more like an NHL defense than what they ended up fielding this year. And then to draft the forward and then you know you wanna talk about Aslan the guys that were all you know senate wrote down the line even a little bit. He's forward to. But where are the defensive prospects were a goalie and willed Morgan yeah. It was a fourth round pick like I need a first round pick to be defense in this year under almost any circumstance in any defense of prospects that the deadline if possible. I think a couple things here real quick as I know relate we're Hoover who super super super late sorry I think. He gets cool cop and he's looking at this year's defense have been saying my top four set I've got we're still line and McKay Bogosian cooler Koppen and George's is in his 56. So he I think he looked at that thought I'm good I think also going back to the point Jeremy brings up to what was to Murray's thought process about this season. I it it sure looks like he went into the season thinking. Let's take the next step like we're not supposed we're not gonna be contending this season so you know what look here's another piece for when we're ready to contend. In my forward group. I have added another speed skill guy in my Ford group and he lender I bring cooler coffin to make my top four solid right now I get rid Jessica why wasn't enamored with. And I think that's I think goals were things that were going through and maybe also thought. Somewhere in the summer he was gonna get Cam Fowler what are some other vet NHL defenseman but I think those were the two big things that factored into Tim Murray's. Decision to take Alex mile and are not taken defenseman. 80305 chip to join us 888550 to protect its trade deadline day we have coverage for their right up and beyond the 3 o'clock deadline this afternoon. We're taking your calls what with the sabres do today that would surprise you whatever else undermine. We'll get to that as well when we get back. How okay. Jeremy brought up something and a break. Now that. Would surprise I think would surprise people today but it's possible something could happen today involving a buffalo sports state. Mike kitchen by surprise we'll talk about that possibility when we return on WGR buffalo.