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Trust still there are looking over the defense of that talent at all about Stu big week for the bills in the NFL the legal tampering period for upcoming free agent starts tomorrow teams with. Two days to talk to the upcoming unrestricted free agents they can actually be signed on Thursday. Bill seven till Saturday to decide whether to exercise their option on quarterback Tyrod Taylor. Where the defect of the 31 million dollar cap hit over the next two years of them go to the free agent market head coach John McDermott indicated last week that the bills may use all the time they have. It up until Saturday to make that decision and other decisions coming as well the bills gearing up to fit their contracts into the salary cap by the start of league here on Thursday so. Maybe some kept capacity cuts coming in the next day or so. Ruben Foster the Alabama linebacker sent a letter to NFL teams apologizing. The incident that got him thrown out of the scouting combine over the weekend he apparently got into a heated altercation with a hospital worker on Friday. A league source as there was miscommunication that allowed the argument to escalate. Foster one of the top linebackers in the draft. Was sent home from the common former Texas CNN defenseman mild Garrett ran a port six board official forty yard dash Sunday at become by leaving no. Doubt about his efforts as we wait 272 bounced at around the National Football League Julius Peppers and that plans to play. In 20175. In the NFL in career sacks as at least one more year according to his agent. Meantime the Bucs have offered cornerback Mike Leavitt the contract that would make in the high speed back up in the NFL the bucks offer to planet reportedly. Would eclipse the deal that the Eagles the quarterback Chase Daniel which is seven million dollars per season. Buffalo Sabres not able to hang on last night against Pittsburgh after three to nothing lead in the first period they lost. To the penguins 43 Ryan O'Reilly Bryan Jack to Jack eichel scored for buffalo. Michael extended his point streak to ten games longest active streak in the league sabres. Folks the flyers tomorrow night that he'd accept it it's the John Murphy show presented by NAPA Auto Parts were comedy alive from the one bill says one buffalo studio at one bills drive John Murphy Donald Jones just back from the come by and joining us right now on the subway fresh take not like he is just. Just back from the com I bills insider. Chris Brown joins us Chris thanks for much Rina on the earnestly we appreciate it. We are literate. What are we missed we pulled out of their Friday you have the quarterback work out Saturday and some of the defense of players yesterday tell us what we missed the last few days Chris. Yeah I mean I think here I had an opportunity to watch all the quarterback grow and I was trying to. Take some notes on what each and every guy gated again. No we need to remind ourselves that. It is had a quarterback. Will quarterback strolling in a vacuum here there's no pressure problem. They're not even executing a play they're just throwing routes on air. And you know I don't know how much people feel they can get from them in terms of decision making really what you're looking forward throwing mechanics here and I get felt that. The most consistent guy and a group mr. Jacques watts. You know on his footwork. To his mechanics. Marketing efforts effortless way in which he delivered the ball. But he demonstrated. Above average arm strength it wasn't like our strength but. I thought maybe the most important thing any show it was his accuracy. Particularly on the deep throws and so. That was the knock on his game and I thought he answered that question again we're not feeling the pressure situations very got to put all our but. I think he was clearly the best quarterback of the group overall. Now like talk about the edit the strongest arm and his is that all it's not even close. The problem it he'd match accuracy up. With his arms stretch he was kind of spray in the ball all over the place particularly struggled on deep passes. And I think it's just because. He's an athlete whose mechanics are all over the map. It may Joker this scene that we all now I have to call Mitchell. As is request. Easily guide it's got a very quick release and that's attractive. I think he's got a good really thrived in the West Coast at a system. But watching him roll I was reminded of what wrecked hotel you guys that are sure ought Roddy and being up front. Lock leg lower. And I'm not gonna pretend that I know exactly what that means pretty was cleared of watching him roll that it prevents him from driving his hip. Into the passes and he passes he was struggling on the deep throws. I also thought it accuracy was impacted. On the quick outs I had three straight passes on a quick out route to the right side of the field. He missed all three was wide receiver by about by every single time on all three consecutive road. Now again. This is a small sample of what he's capable of out there but there were times right LT was muscling the ball. What does it have. He's throwing motion is to quick release to get out fast which is why I think he's probably match for a West Coast system but. There were I was reminded of Ryan Fitzpatrick were built Nancy remember it was used to have the rule. Put all the way into road to get him down he'll particularly outside the side. Knickers round these youths. If it be you guys remember Ryan Fitzpatrick their own environment. Available come nobler listen talking and ankles so. You know we talked about Padma homes off air. And he was like listen patent Holmes is a guy who it is runs around. And makes throws down the field you can see the big arm but. He's not a guy who you can ask right now to play within the framework of your offense and you know because of that. Assistant days system guy you know he just runs around and makes the rules. But he can't make those throws in the framework in any the united city talked about two Visteon. And that front they'd be lot and that does affect the way you throw the ball you know those little mechanics will affect the way you threw the ball. Then when you try to project that into the NFL. You're talking about being off target. And you're talking about possibly not having the stern especially somewhere like buffalo. To make throws down the field that you're talking about in receptions or something you have to look for. Chris Brown bill cents at a Buffalo Bills that come on the line this geography Donald Jones John Murphy show from one built right. Chris so the quarterback group as a whole. You know I'd suck comments from my chiefs GM John Dorsey we've heard. Mike may actually this. Somebody will probably craft one of these guys may be John Watson will draft what these guys fairly early. On the first day of the draft but there's nobody here that jumps out at you really in in May be whoever takes that guy early on in the draft is. Is gonna live to regret it would you agree that. Why they they could live to regret that they expect him to start they want. You know you're in a position where you can draft one of these guys high. You have better and that in service to bridge Chip Beck I would be ready. Well then you know I think you can make an argument for the investment pitcher making but. You make of these investments are long range potential and I'll probably remiss to not mentioning this shock factor I thought he had good well addict. Andy demonstrated above average arm strength to leak at a pretty easy throwing motion from what I it's the and did pretty well I'd probably put him right behind. John Watson in terms of you know throwing tools that they had. Become on Saturday but. You know I think what you have to look at all these quarterback you have to be top but it in your quarterbacks coach and coordinator to develop the talent that they're offering. And be convinced. That they have the work ethic to stick with it on a day in day out say it's the most important position on the yield big an impact drop its more than any other player. If you believe there's genuine upside with any one of these guys. The next step you have to take is how good are my teachers at quarterback coach. And opposite ward Nader and then third is. It is it get a put the work to be the very best he can beat. Knowing the 24/7. Op tech quarterback is in the NFL and I think that's where we might change over the separation any shot Watson. From all this doubts that I happen to crops perhaps but it. And talking at some of these NFL network guys that would cover draft and have access to a lot or Kia we do. Basically set ought to hear that part in the interviews that these other guys did deeper ties or was lauded by job lynch to GM designers. For absolutely nail in his interview with debt. It was pretty forthcoming describing that still a cure a lot of these guys are. Get a try to put their best foot forward in terms of demonstrating that they could be a leader there work ethic he's committed to succeeding at the next level. You know the learning curve might prove to be very steep in most case. A brownie now you know depending on what happens with tyra if they end up picking up Dobson you know for me personally I don't think that they would end up going. And that first wave of quarterbacks in the first round talking about you know. Kaiser Watson to abuse to do to this you too risky. And pat mahomes do you have a second wave of guys like Brad tie is Peter and the kid out of Virginia Tech. Who the bills might end up targeting list is C a in the mid rounds it did any of those guys impress at all. I liked what I saw from David Webb. From cal he did struggle on the shorter throws but he got arms straight. I like it over the top. Had a twelve to six throwing motion. And he's six foot five C don't have to worry about at this did that at the line of scrimmage. Against the guy that you know played mere rate up and which is developed somewhat of the stigma for some of these quarterbacks like he bought homes. In terms of the transition they have to make to a co op Ed but. Still at all I mean I think you know that now they're talking about let's move into higher seed out into. I think that's under the assumption that while these other guys Ian eagle early in water and I don't know that necessarily happen. You know another guy that I felt like the Senior Bowl like but he had the best we get a group was made Peter read from Pitt. But I think there's a limited ceiling on here. I don't think the upside is tremendous there I think he could be in time. A serviceable starter but I don't think that's the guy it's never gonna lead you to accomplish so. It depends on what you're looking for when you get to route to around three. Are you still hoping. You know. It it you know a triple to the gap or hole rugs or are you just look at for a guy. It's in you hold water for you should you need to plug it in for or buy into the back. We're recapping come by Chris Brown bills insider Buffalo Bills that come joining us. On the subway fresh take outline that really that is where it all begins for the bills this and Chris that Tyrod question everybody. We talked to insure everybody you talked with combine over the weekend. Pretty much starts with their registered you're going to be with Charles Davidson. You know he had opinions on Tyrod and and what the bills might do but it's hard to even think about. What your other draft needs are until you know you know what's your commitment to tyra in terms of money and if you are committed to him at all. Right and you still have created the process to go through as well and you know you can speculate all you want as to what direction the bills are gonna go here I think we all though. And are pretty comfortable and stating that some of their primary traditional needs while wide receiver. Safety. Quarterback and you also need. A sideline to sideline linebacker play that weak side position. And opera it's exactly the place where you've got a free agent George metals. You know the guy who's. Medical situation still isn't completely clear with respect you to playing career shot truck handers so. You've got a handful of these there's some more pressing and other and yet or create state ear or created the wide receiver position to have to be addressed. Even if you bring one of the few of those impending free agents back to the rosters so. That you look at well aware. What the market looked like what's the price we're gonna have to pay if we are interested more. The free agents that are going to be out on the market and then what a level L draft. Fortunately that built a lot of other vessels in the quarterback class and the safety class is probably the deepest that. Maybe we've ever seen. Some people are going all the way back to 2003. Before they talk quarterback Brett like this I mean I talked you know some of these NFL network draft analysts like in a Jeremiah Cheryl David. Mean they think you can get a starter quarterback in the fourth round this year. You know you've got. Safeties that are gonna go deep into round three and into the early stages of gate of route where there where guys that are not just going to be these how to seek EU draft in the fourth round I'll get specialty they're gonna challenge. A hole in your feet. That's a good thing for the bills the troubling thing is they only have six draft choices right now and I think it's it has its it behoove them to. Take a long look at moving back should the opportunity presented itself in any of the first regret out. How to recoup another couple picks because the talent is so deep and architect ordered they be better wide receiver at edge rusher there's yet. I would say the only places where there really been tremendous debt. It's probably linebacker. And the opposite it's tackles so does that. Then prop the bill to address those needs is free agents I think that's out some of the NFL offices operate. Date may take advantage where there's after the draft addressed free agency. You to create a key to address those positions where maybe it's not a. Chris I wanna do actually kind of give back to the draft and you're talking about our receivers so one of the guys coming out of the Senior Bowl and everybody was talking about was Cooper cup but Cooper cup ran 462 so how did that hurt is his stressed out now. Coming out of Tacoma. I don't know that it hurt him too much only because nobody really expected him to run a pastime. Now or 62 I think you're probably borderline in the air but I think this guy. And we talked about it when I got back from the durable even gotten gains is built on procedure. He gets separation because she is so Oprah sites and disciplined in Israel rep. He was able to demonstrate that throughout the week to see your ball. But I think the force extra who tells scouts. And they'll decision makers held a rally leaders. There's a limit on that kids feel he maxed out physically. In terms of the way he's gonna probably be able to put on its frame and under by eke out. And he's never going to be factored in port 62. So this is a guy who's gonna completely be reliant upon technique. And and he's good. Meaning the per site route runner but. I think the ceiling and the upside is limited. And knowing that you have a receiver Calvin this strapped to probably it'd be in the latter stages its gates to. You know somewhere in around three area in all likelihood. Com what was it like that it combines Saturday when John ruff put up that. Blazing 422 Chris. Yeah I mean initially it's not official so you know a lot of people that were watching myself included. I mean I'm out are open for a little bit. I mean there's some forty what you watch these guys run. Even if you don't have a trained I like outs. You can tell they're running fast and I would try to help the guys the kid steps. It usually you know you have. I think of what it is thirteenth or fourteenth steps you're gonna have a super fast time. His leg removed too fat for me count me. That's up and this guy would move it. Now he was expected to run a bath time but when he met the media the other day he told us the bat as he ever ran ought to walk with or three. So that he or 22 which doesn't seem like a big difference that's a huge jump. I think the problem for him unfortunately is going to be medical. But he kept it off the chart but into the got a tech chronic knee injury and a couple of knee surgery in this reader he had other issues. Each having your shoulder. Surgery had a shoulder march 14. So you know you look at him and he's not a big framed guy. The medical and what team doctors. Tell their GM is going to be critical in terms of where this kid comes off the board the draft. It is quite a medical so important because now you're doctors that effort make an evaluation Hewitt saying. He got chronic knee problems he's probably alien or have a secure NFL career but you're probably not draft pick out an effort to secure route about how productive out. So you know that's weird these guys it's slotted on the board and medical which is why the what was that in the first place in the big. You'll be huge factor in where that he comes off the. Report the Chris we wanna answer about the post that you put up on a Buffalo Bills that I'm about an hour so ago. About draft strategy that prospects in general but as you I mentioned a minute ago trading back moving down in the draft they only have six weeks moving down might be. A viable strategy for the Buffalo Bills in this year's draft. But it's easier said than done as an. Well yeah I mean AB Geithner saying hey we're we're we had a top ten pick is an attractive commodity. We we should be able to move out here it down a half dozen or so fictions. You know recoup this an extra two or three. And really put ourselves in good position. The problem here is 31 other NFL teams know what it deep threat that it don't they have picked in the later rounds extra one. And there are gonna be all that willing to part with it I mean I was talking to dinner and Jeremiah this week it up by. In FL network draft analyst that he's dead who built sweet spot these draft is the third deport round. There is going to be an unquestionable about a talent. That's going to be there they're in normal draft where maybe so many position don't want it because they do this year you'd be kicking in the second around. So you're gonna get potentially top sixty talent. And he pitched around or at uphold that position that's almost unheard of so. Unfortunately I think it's going to be tough for the bill to move out of that tickets and a question fine the teams. That want to get a quarterback. And jump ahead of Cleveland that's well. Who could that be that could be Arizona potentially at thirteen maybe they want to make that we're back investment. Killing Carson Palmer probably going to play one more year but they make that investment and a quarterback that they heat slipping it and and the elite brought Cleveland twelve to try to get their use of the team it's supposed to be at a market for quarterback but they're all we got it spot. It's taking ransom to get up there so. I think the more likely opportunities for the bill probably alive route to a three to move back after a spot maybe and stopped. And slide out because they feel comfortable Allah that they it was still gonna be sitting bedevil the fourteen out there. And believing that it's not all that different. From what was sitting up there are forty or. So forty four's the second round pick and you know as you said that myopia. A target for somebody in a way for the bill to get back in the say the fourth round and and stockpile some talent especially as as you said that was Daniel Jeremiah says there's third fourth round talent in the defensive backfield. Well yeah I mean that he talked to certain of these doubts and GM's. Over talk it through the week. How to Calpine would remain available to the media and is it very clear that and neither it is trains commuter train NFL evaluate her eyes that are making set. They're saying that you're gonna get. Kids in the fourth round. That have the potential to challenge for a starting role as a quarterback in your secondary that starting role the state the secondary or wide receivers. That they believe are going to be sitting there in round four. That they believe could be your true. Or three in your seat in court you know you're really the fourth round you're talking about chip it's gonna be your fifth receiver help got special teams the rookie. The talk about the European. Number two number three wide outs in your office of Eleanor right now. That could be better used for a team like the bill with pork free agent wide receiver we're creating safety. We're Chris Brown bill since at a Buffalo Bills that come you can read his posts on the come by the Buffalo Bills backed down. With Donna and I spent a lot of the morning watching the defensive back workouts christened. A guy that you saw at the Senior Bowl that opened a lot of eyes today will be modified to from a Connecticut a four point 4040. Time in the second attempt. Topper firmer reformer in the vertical jump in the in EE system. He's been outstanding use some on the field in football I worked out at the Senior Bowl and in. That combination of size and now speed I think is good redirected to a lot of team. Yeah he's he's off the charts as far as an athlete and you could see that it Senior Bowl. Just with his movement Hillary should sport 219 pounds. Any movement skills forward and the reverse our art is downright impressive it doesn't. You look at his body sizes there's no reason. Why. He should be moving the way he can move up or work 40% sports sort of ninety pout they eat is having its. It's unheard. Putin saying that excites me about it like that. Bury your matchup for it here for robbery count. This in the that you could put on tight end he can run. Just is that if not faster than anyone you wanna put out there and match him up where it. And he kept the sides and the strength. To battle. We're jump ball not gonna get boxed out on Iraq are out here Martellus Bennett that you're a guy that can go up and play. And at a high point ball to be right there with a guy like that. You could mean some people could even make the argument it to feel confident up. You know his technique interpret it slip that you can put him on the edge put them out there against the giants receiver Brandon mark. He he just. He's not athletic I can't think like that that that side. Or foreign vertical having Calvin Johnson had a forty to a spurt was hit got beat by two inches he wasn't happy with. I watch out there like what would that forty or. And are you kidding me it is that but that's it a small sample. Of the sink deep talent. You know that in this draft and has noted that you bought like jobs out of from blocking out any tech great ball you know it runs great today or more but. That's good about the safety and he hit it probably at least one parent report out. Who's who I think has an upside and made plays on the ball at Boston College still. It runs for balance flop now and not lose like an unbelievable athlete. And you played a multitude of positions all the adapter kit like Jon Johnston you know being here in the fourth round and you feel very comfortable taking there. Big city which it would upside who's got all healed including stem cell. I think that's just a thumbnail sketch of the depth of talent he's dealing with the deposition. That's what a way to make a Gibril peppers of Michigan who worked with the linebackers the other day and working with defense of accidentally write. Right yeah well it's unfortunate I mean there's. They have this rule and I didn't know it exists because I couldn't think. The player that previously. Had to go to the position had to be filed in the position designation that he asked for first college. And peppers was lifted at the linebacker for Michigan so he had that work out with linebacker group that's come back the next day. And work out with the defensive back group is that what he'll see it. After a lot medical teams are happy with that because I think a lot of that project at. Be safe in the NFL and you know he performed well in. What exactly thrilled that I haven't worked out two days in a row that he was worried it all the work is the day before it was gonna compromise. His effectiveness in the work out today and how we look against pressure defensive back. Who only worked out today but you know I I don't think he'd be disappointed anybody with what he was able to show on the field I thought. You know movement skills were strong in and we re at a decent time report by Jews still. You know I think he checked the lot of the boxes that things were looking for him. From him in terms of you know being capable of playing safety. At the NFL level he's just getting your app has the move up a little bit more October assignments and things like that but that's secure it. Who can beat that hybrid timeline back. You know sub packages. Another guy it has to work out at a position was the temple kid but I like out of your ball it's not read it. It was a guy it was and on the ground the president for temple pretty. Attention actually last year but he Al but they pushed him off the line at your volleying a great week. Made probably the position transition of anybody I saw there and they took out of the work five to. With the defensive lineman he had to work out where even though many people see him as a linebacker after seeing him grunt work like to. I carry out its union that there's a kid Beck a bit. Into that weak side linebacker 43 roll that John McDermott going to be looked at work in his defense. Now brownie all three of these guys coming into the come by and we're talked about his. Possibly late first round it's you know second round picks. With the numbers that they put up now and to group peppers showing that he can play virtually anything. Can they now sell themselves up to the number ten Pitt. I don't know quite go that high. And I don't think that added jump typically takes place I think people get. A little over exuberant about you know the work out numbers like on our noses numbers are off the chart. That typically just forces out to go back to the eight because maybe it exceeded. The speed and the gain speed that they felt they saw eight and they wanna take a look at it again now that they have hard numbers to work. Couldn't push them up a little bit it certainly could. But rarely do you see it giant leap up aboard. You know from the end of round one for example into the top ten. I think if you ask any NFL doubt that's been in network for ten years or more. They could probably count on two fingers how many times that's ever happened. Chris Brown we're gonna wrap things up a Chris it's not all come by this not all draft talked. This is a big week for the at the bills franchise with some decisions to make right Tyrod coming up at least by the end of the week maybe sooner. Decisions to make them possible. Cap casualties and and free agents to look at any proper know how active you think this bill he might be over the next the sixties or so. Well again I'll go back to what I said earlier I think if you look at the draft plants you know then it happened to tackle. And you've got. Quarterback. That offered talent. But no NFL ready it. At least it turned out. Your plans for 2017. And so the first you'd have to drop is that Tyrod Taylor this. You know it see if he's still on the roster they pick up the option is the option renegotiated. As a team pick up the ball on March 9. And make them a trade off. To try to. Like Tyrod wait for the bill I think all of that stuff that you played between now and the time decision. And that's the first shoot got a drop enacting everything. Filters down for Bayer in terms of the positions that they're going to regret that you know that for months now they the set with a free agent market should be. They're gonna wait and see now between now and march 9. See what players that are still available free agency are still there come march 9 that is dark side of people the contract. They'll probably make this year call so really history he goes to. You know ear piece so to speak free agents he doesn't wanna over paper. You know the top guys that are going to be out there. In the market so. Your date stay with that course of action I think they almost have to because if they pick up our options are looking at only about eight million under the cap. Yes they only have six draft choices which are gonna factor into about. Six or seven million dollars under chapter of the rookie pool. So you'll have money and what not but if you take a big guy off the market with a big giant contract. You you're probably not do a whole lot more unless you make. I've cut off your roster between now the market all suspect could very well happen. To give themselves more breathing room but there's a lot at it and a lot of roster reshaping that has to take place especially knowing the bill. Point two on restricted free agent right. Lot of it reshaping coming up in the next and they're two you would think at least leading up till Thursday Chris thank you very much as we preaches. Chris Brown bills insider Buffalo Bills that come a you can read his work it built economic including wide trading back. Could be the best strategy for the Buffalo Bills as they approach is strip Chris is so it's up to date the latest bills news at Buffalo Bills back nominee joined us today. On the subway fresh take hotline subway fresh. Donald and I backed report let's get your thoughts on this we will revisit the winner Paul. See what you got out of the top binary thing else you'd like to discuss phone lines open in 030552. Or three. From outside buffalo 1888550. To 550. John Murphy shall presented by NAPA Auto Parts from one bills drive a Buffalo Bills revealed. We have with more of that John Murphy she. Quarterback showed John Murphy Dow Jones Acura studio the show returns from a success Pittsburgh accessible. Three day run at the combine in Indianapolis Donald Wright was to do enjoy everywhere in the media room in. Radio row as I said it's them that tiny fraction of what goes on the Super Bowl but yet arms and no the combine is like 15 the number people needed but. You know there's a lot of people who went through there we get kind of the front end of the comment that's where it was good to have Chris Brown kind of cover in the back into the common forests and talked about some of the workouts we got the the play actions show part of it with a unifil people in the the real work on fields asserted pretty much after we left on Friday and Saturday near Toledo and in the BS then. And yes. The one thing could happen by coming home early is that our producer archer producer. Got a chance to go to show hole in buffalo Saturday night from desperate so here's the backs are. I'm Rolling Stones couple Summers ago played right over here then Ralph Wilson Stadium. Opening for them what's the banned from Birmingham Alabama called seat all the broken bones we had appalled Jane ways that lead guy on our show. Before the concert because Mick Jagger was unavailable and Keith Richards the confines. So we have called in lay on the show couple years ago great conversation big football fan Alabama fan loves. Marcel Darius to the bills so another plane Saturday night at big bill in buffalo and and we got a chance to to give a little thing at it like he's wearing it he worked his Marcel Darius Jersey for the on course. Saturday night at big bill and it was a big hit with a crack appalled that's all Jane way the lead singer of saying polyps broken bones big Alabama football fan he's asking me about Brian Cabell the former patriots tight ends coach is now the new gamma. Offensive coordinator big Darius man. And it really amazing performer he put on quite a show you his band seven peace and lots of horns we had a great time and we think haltingly. And his crew for a hosting us this Saturday night and good crowd there W would like ludicrous. The place is packed probably 11100 people there and loved. I'm comes our way of and so wouldn't love it I've never heard him play so have been. In a little bit different from the open from stones so there there for real they've run the Torino over the direction we're in Covington Kentucky Friday night. Buffalo Saturday Albany last night this series two or ignore it and how they do it now. I mean my my Saturday night doesn't release that that the U guys about it you went to boxing I would deceived by the end than any piracy keep verified. No we sat down on the floor inside him and with all the medals a lot of celebrities in the building lot of my all time agree fighters were there. To see what. So sugary it was there. Accurately. If form was there. Wells was a lot of may witness fighters there. His younger younger guys that he is really. You know training and bring them up through the ropes. There was some other guys that are really on the scene right now I cannot and these guys names com. For them tonight and these guys names put the ball mark one of my boys that I went way. He trained professional fighters so he knows. Everybody in the fight where he's like all he Seles so. You know he's he's like the next guy in line to take the bell and all of this size though so that was it is being. The funniest thing was. Charles Oakley. Walked in the bill I expect a bit and the crowd went crazy when they saw him walk in the building new lives like. It happens I'll vote the I you'd you'd suit itself out there onerous than you're use of its old owner that this is a hero and even hear about from one incident. Like heated nuclear bass announces that one is that the people every realistically. You know his minutes girls all these there's call from Erica White as higher on the year. I John McDonald. General this is via its it's a rumor but I'm war unlike in the armor more more and I get stronger unit Tony Tony Romo. What's done is what will host the Denver. And Simien becomes available in just got cost nothing. Compared to pirate is. And but don't we. What he's seen from Trevor Ximian that we do think that there. Obviously compared to Ireland but I did watch retiring this year. Or am I just don't think it's been a permanent change it's which were great. But I think. Suitable replacement for Tyrone. All right I'm not I don't get excited about Trevor Syria and mostly because I don't think I ailments I am not seen enough you know. And it's enough of them think that'd be. An upgrade over Tyrod Taylor and the other couple arguments and outlook I want I hope they keep tyrant we made I've made that clear I hope they keep around. I can see why they might wanna move on I mean it's certainly defensible but. I'm Helen to take that kind of a step back. I think it would be Trevor Sammy you know I think I got you know his thoughts on terrorism. If you were to replace Tyrod Taylor with another quarterback. That quarterback pass to. Improve your passing game tremendously. And I don't think that Ximian is going to tremendously improve your passing game because you're gonna take a step back in the running game the reason you have the number one rushing game is because the Tyrod Taylor yes you do need him to improve in the passing game. But if you bring its ever Ximian how much better does your passing game did right knowing that you run on he's not going to be there is saying you know also it just doesn't make sense for me right there. Sometimes and my other point but again. The big thing is at dollars if you can cost 675000. Japanese and tailors in areas thirteen ports. It it'll Dennis in connection because he loses its literature there are just not just me too much. Am I would like to say that's in the couple of people that you know you make the point and get or connect the dots to Rick Dennison. I don't think this buffalo quarterback decision on Tyrod Taylor I don't think. They're putting him in the hands of repentance and look at they talk you know absolutely do they want his input sure. Would you like to work with what do you think Tyrod on tape what do you know what Trevor Ximian but boy I don't think they're. I don't think they're gonna cater to him repentance in the office coordinator. When it comes through decision in the space just don't do local bank didn't drivers in the incident in the last couple games didn't excellent commitment. Yet believe that because of injury did you speak I'd. That's what I need to go back seat because if he was his pinched. If it because he wasn't getting the job done I mean it doesn't make system will be in the army NASA total. Step back in now you're saying you know we want to rebuild we need to. Just clears the path beastie Tyrod out here bring him up a service local serviceable quarterback and look to next year's draft. Yeah I'm looking he played fourteen games. The Broncos last year as far as the end of the season. Place he started towards the end of the season there was 01 non start December worth. And Jacksonville and then earlier in Atlanta so he he finished the year. I didn't light it up I don't I don't know you know I was BBs or attractive topic and why anyone would think that's great I get the money part. I don't think the Tyrod Taylor money is so prohibitive but again we'll have all the answers that's coming up week. We're gonna break come back but more John Murphy down Jones John repeat show presented by NAPA Auto Parts of Buffalo Bill three. Studio John Murphy Donald Jones coming up at the top of the hour 2 o'clock. Matt Miller from Bleacher Report will give us his thoughts on the combine in Indianapolis in the meantime. Like your view at 8030550. Or toll free 1888550. To buy fifty Donald this came up and got my attention into it figures back before they open that we had come Ari can write on the show Baltimore Ravens. Wide receiver who is going to be unrestricted free agent Jason Cole from Bleacher Report tweet it out down earlier today. Former ravens wide receiver Kumar icann has roughly six teams interested in him. Bills brown Seahawks looking like strongest candidates for now you know come Ari can he was a teammate played here when he first came out of college get a Goodyear with Baltimore and then. Got hit as many snaps and about only twenty catches the Specter what do you think yeah I haven't had a chance to talk. Tomorrow a little bit we arc of friends the he is backed down I think in Atlanta right now he was very unhappy with the Baltimore situations especially coming into this past season because. The into another fifteen you have what says it far receptions almost a thousand yards. The F five touchdowns he was the number one receiver with Steve Smith went down right and then last year so he had that season. They wanna pay him they put me tender him. Last season they put him right back on special teams the only hat when he nine catches. The three judges 28 are so he put up very good numbers as their number one receiver and a room run heavy type of office. And then last year he went right back the special teams now he's a free agent he wants to get out of Baltimore. I'm I know that for fact. This is really gonna come down to the money that he's really asking for and what teams view him act the do you view him as. A legit number two or number three receiver a guy who can come and play for you. But also be a special teams who reported because he is very good specialty. Number three receivers these days it didn't you know 66. Million a year seven million a year and I think that's the number that he's asking for. So firm for buffalo to me in the four that. Probably so you probably can bring him in here that he can get down a feel for you can also work the underneath stuff. So I think that is something that can really work out. Plus you know buffalo brought them into the leak you know they he came on that the here out of college. And so I think it's a great. So much knowledge about him anyway look at it and you have the knowledge of our buddy Mike Canadians in spot Erica. They do market value what the guy might there earning his calculated market value is seven and a half million dollars with comparisons to. Some of the number twos we talked about the Ahmanson's its interest. Which it to my recollection is a little bit less than what they calculated. Robert Woods market value will be if the bills have to replace Robert Woods that's kind of guy you would probably look at death clearly in this and are busier guy. The second tier guys in the market has gone up you know Robert Woods. Even those spots right has is Robert Woods value and that can check and see if that's been adjusted. Yeah it's like zeal that's just the because yeah I mean yeah. Somebody just got paid receiver just that they like over the weekend yep. And so it things like that really changed the market you know and I would think that Robert would you heard about Kenny stills and looking for twelve million right robber was gonna look somewhere around probably 910 million. So can you get a good dialect Marita and come in here I I think so and I think he can be guy he stays healthy. He can stay on the field for you he can help you and to different parts of your game. He's a guy would get down if he'll be a good compliment them to us Sammy Watkins. And as you're just point out too well with Chris Brown you don't. They have four guys bills have four guys who are scheduled to hit the market including Robert Woods markets could win number three just an honor it's pretty good work as the reds on target where indicated it's them. Pretty good work is the as a return here's a call from a Mike in New Jersey hello Mike welcome. I doubt I'd holier threatened. Eight department and I mean I'm topic behavior has been discussing regarding a potential. You know quarterback would put the bills I you know I I don't think Tyrod Taylor and I'm rog you know Larry a list over and you know he you know he makes it more exciting McGee on the paper when he won the game like you know agent and looked like it was gonna break a bit. At any time bonuses in the passing game. He looks shall seek the neither of them looked so confident. You know every you want you won't be in the water flows driver article on the sideline looked like we are running minute two minute drill. For the entire game so I think that. You know would mean that probable compared him look like immune. Like you know you're you're on the podium and copy as you all get and also give that runner I yet who think that he has about a potential as we need. We need someone who can you know make capital in the cries wears the look and goal and you know. Am a big you know not yet attaches and all that. Yep I think that's what I adding that will escalate will also in the mid induced lower dealers as well. Aren't as it Ximian that I though that's a thing that I get hung up on act. I've seen enough evidence that Trevor Ximian that's probably hit a great idea at the moment ago and in Winston implant a. Like I don't think he's an upgrade I don't think these data don't beat Diaz a big arm regardless he can throw the ball on the need but. He needs to be evident in buffalo he needs to be able to with the ball through the wind. Get the ball down the field to a guy like Sam meanwhile has been Trevor Ximian do that I don't know if he can do that late in the season you can count on him. To carry you in November December and on into January where this team wants to go. You know you wanna have home games in the playoffs and you get in the January you're talking about snow wind all types of weather can heat. If that ball through that I don't know if he has that are you know I'd rather even just have part of if you are gonna give credit Tyrod. Does have quite a dull as the quarterback at least he's a bigger guy with a stronger arm you know he's gonna have to learn but I would take part over terms and. We're gonna break come back we're gonna tuchman Matt Miller is the NFL draft lead writer for Bleacher Report dot com get. This take on our mind to be outdated performances this defensive backs lighting it up flying down the field today in the forty yard dash. Matt Miller from Bleacher Report scheduled to join us. I'm back from more than Jabber B trio were W. I've from one bills drive presented by NAPA Auto Parts in this is Buffalo Bills radio.