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Yeah yeah. He. How excited and and Jeremy White the your there with aloe well right laugh out loud got your familiar with ass NH shaking my head yes. I like this game now when I got the breaking sports tax I thought GT after all you know about one I do get. Does it freak out I thought. GT out. Overall. I like that are you kidding non WG ER Sports Radio 550. I tweeted GT FO yesterday till you see my tweets. I didn't take you know kill the open goes through their what does you know real oh GT apple means right even nine and right greens. Get French Open because they put something in the breath now I. Hahn saw I did tweet something yesterday about GT FO that open is from when they announced DJ manuals gonna start the pre season game I couldn't believe there we're gonna do it. But they did that imagine what you would have treated as an abbreviation and has DJ Emanuel was gonna start a regular season game and well last time I happen to. An appeal we thought the competition was over and they gave Vijay another star in my reaction like to remember waking up thinking like what are why. What are you doing. But they did that yesterday did it about replay in soccer so I'll get will be able to do that at some point today because. I. It was the thing in sports that made me swear yesterday I swear I would if you and asked me about her been around me I would've sworn up a storm. Moved. Because. There's an article that's been had it that some league I don't even know what level I watched the highlight it's in the language I didn't understand the cut. And their their goal and they want that committed video review when they've somehow ruled that a guy pushed another guy and they took the goal off the port. And they do that Null and I don't know again what country what league this was but. Mean from my cold dead hands if you put replay into soccer I. Well they should just ask the other other sports the other fans how it's worked out. It was. Who thinking about it. I am I have not yet been totally broken by sports if they put instant replay of the soccer it will break me I'm not even the biggest soccer fan I'm kinda knew my favorite thing about is does not replace there's a certain. Purity oh it's wanted to soccer's a post everything else has been tinkered with because of technology and reading the article on the breakdown in in the piece on dad's been there going through it. In talking about how. You know when you put replay in all the sudden you add words to your sport you add language to it becomes. You know. Going to the ground complete the act of making a catch all these things that only exist because of replay. Like well the tackle has to be horror in the box and it is outside the box and it has to be clear and distinct and we've got to have conclusive that. In all these words and I can see in my mind the death of another sport yet because all these sports have ruined. The viewer's experience. Was three point oh yeah replay challenges and it has I'm I'm with you. Touchdowns every touchdowns or flack every goal that got away to an agreement offside yeah every goal I hold my breath like my truck parked truck parked it doesn't count until fox dropped when the other team scores at the other night in Pittsburgh the other team scores and you think OK maybe something went wrong or even ice stick him right it was a high stick in the sabres are still leading or. In off base they they scored to go up 43 as the rain chance when they gain the zone some getting some guy had his back skate in the air and I've been doing nagger games drug ten years I can tell you the number of replacing College Hockey is. Is ballooning big time. Others a review every game now. Not necessarily an offside challenge which they do have that yet. But every every goal is reviewed the gonna take a look at they're gonna see if he got kicked in Somalia pushed into the goaltender. You know the officials that are standing right behind the net and signaled goal and they stopped and had 232 or three of you go sit in the penalty box area watch a monitor wall everybody in the building just kind of waits well. College basketball same thing as you know inside the last few minutes anything that's close when in China comes to evolving out of bounds they stop they go to the monitor and watch Purdue northwestern the other day it happened I watched. Maybe it was northwestern Michigan. Same thing in its basically another timeout yours it's it it should it's a dramatic ending it's a close game like Michigan northwestern. Even Purdue and northwestern both games really close going down to the end. And inside two minutes ball is out about stop the two teams go to their respective benches the coaches get a free time out they take longer than that it take for the officials to look at the monitor. Yeah it kind of just it just kind of it drains you of the moment you know you just kinda you're all into the game and all of a sudden there's this the stoppage and you well can. Cans to swing well let's let's. Alarm once the store I I don't know yet in an election owner managed. They don't know it's Korea has either. I'm serious the most beautiful thing about soccer guy could break his leg that clock does not stop movement is like all right get off the field let's golf empress cup places to be. It's beautiful and if they start reviewing for offside then another thing happens then this is what hat we've seen in the NHL we've seen in the NFL. Also an unofficial let's close call I'll be bailed out by replace uttered a called the way I normally would. Teams change their their strategy. You know everything I've got to preserve timeouts so I can use my challenge and all this stuff is I I get it like. Well I don't tell officials had to break a habit. You look at how many years ago we seeing guys blowing whistles blown plays dead in the league wins the Menendez say stop stop blowing the whistle don't call up of the don't it's a fumble don't call it deadly if you call it dad and mother with that we can't use replay to correct the call so let things go. And then we'll corrected if it's a mistake and I just you know the whole thing is that it's in the right place try you want the right calls everybody does turn but. It is the foot in the dory it is the I mean the slippery slope I guess as soon as instant replay gets into your sport it ruins it. It's just gonna kill its Killen base it's really hurting baseball really disgust me in baseball. That's my first true love as a sport I I can't stand it and it was baseball was slow to come around and endless series out all the was the home run for air for. Yup is it over the home run line or not over the home run line and give it everything else everywhere now. Nah it's everything except balls and strikes first though that's no secret for now for now how long. Three years until there's gonna be the Q score on the balls and strikes because some team got punched out on of questionable call because. In all they had they I saw a and I will get. I wanna get two football obviously because I wanna ask you a gut feeling about the quarterback situation. But there was a soft feature few months ago and I think it was on real sports HBO real sports. And they they have you know they have a computerized system that they use and like it's an independent baseball league somewhere basically. There's there's a guy in the stands she's got the computer he's got the screen it shows that whether pitches a ball or strike and in a little headset the the umpire at home plate as we're in an ear plug. And they say OK the pitch is thrown I look at my screen that's in the box that's a strike strike in the upper ghost odd and he just basically calls. What he's told to call ball or strike by the guy monitoring that the system. I I don't know that regular guys yelled ever get to that but I've been here we wanted to you wanna take away issues was it was an inside outside. Here you go here's a computer system with a box on a TV screen that tells the guy ball or strike. And you just relate to the all play on that sounds and a totally different reality you know then again like I could I can get behind it. Real time machines called the plays him and call balls and strikes. That I can get behind it's happening in real time. I cannot get behind hold on. The umpire called the strike but the but the computer up there is challenging the call stopped the game overrule the right person read this is the home plate umpire scholar and what he's told to do that's terrible. Well that's right here is where you're gonna call. Well what's it there for them right well at the outs are outs at home plays at home plate you know helping guys on the base paths of these I don't know all error Sal is there for balks walks right their foul then. Yanks. Lineup cards with the management is not good I I've never felt strongly about replay as I do now which is that. There once it gets its hooks in and that that was the word that was the phrase the dad's been users like you the tax. Savvy people are trying to get their hope replay hooks into soccer that their hooks are in the hockey they're deeply into baseball now. Football of course might as well be instant replay with will both football on the side. Basketball we've seen it. If it's eking its worse and worse with every single thing you add in with three point I know with hockey you hear this a lot and I didn't hear it. Today with GM meetings but from time to time when the NHL gets together and talk about rules changes bill Daley Gary Bettman one of mobile inevitably say. Be careful what you ask port you know like you you it might sound like a good change now. But you don't if you don't think far enough down the road you might think that it's a great change for five years and now you might look back and go. It was a bad idea but yesterday one of the things they talked about was returning the red light for purposes up two line passes. Because shirts sped up the game you can make stretch passes put their more physical violent collisions because the speed of the game. Mean we've increased concussions and injuries because guys are flying through the neutral zone because we took the Red Line out to open things up so. They always bring up think about it now but think about it 510 years down the road. I loved instant replay I I think it's not elect a great idea. And I didn't even have a problem as the NFL expanded instant replay and what it could do I wanna correct those calls when the refereed walls that and it's a fumble and my team recovered the ball. But as I said I think Major League Baseball. Started it. And the NHL with the outside challenged pushed it even further. And basketball all the stoppages on top of everything else I am I I I've set up for us that I'm at the point where if you wanna go back to 1970. And when I started being a sports betting go no replaced help officials were just gonna play the game at human element fine. I think replay is killing my my enthusiasm as a sportsman if you can't stop your game that much it does make you wonder why they asked GM's how to fix the game. Why they're not interest in fixing that is funny that's a great point you know why could somebody ratio from the devils basically I think it was ratio of one of the gym yesterday said. Will come up. These ideas. To help offense specifically set. Will come up and ideas to inject offense in the game and ten minutes later the coaches will kill it new ideas to stop offense there that's that both the you need if you're gonna make changes specifically NHL you can bring up all these ideas but the guys you have to convince. Are the coach you have to make it worth their while to want to score another goal. To keep offense going. As opposed to let me shut it down protect the lead I played reporting get a point up or get past regulation. That's a big problem for the National Hockey League it's not both guys it's the coaches that are designing systems. To prevent offense it changes from being successful one way to do it ready first tiebreaker is goal scored mango that helps you have to be some kind of yes some some motivation for a coach to wanna keep scoring whether it's a 321 or whatever. I I don't wanna be content to play for 11 tie or hold on I don't know hold onto a 21 lead. Maybe you do put something into it in the goals for May be an extra point for certain dramatic goals for margin of victory something. That there's got to be sub in the convince the coaches not to kill. Sport but even beyond that you know the coaches are obviously gonna do what coaches do. GMs are GMs really interest in the game being better or they decision didn't their team being good like. Thing about him Marie when they were arguing about changing that did the lottery rules so to what they are currently Marie argued against it why it. And reason. Like listen I'm glad he did and I'm glad that change got pushed off the Euro ousted sabres probably don't object cycle but. Why did the sabres the Buffalo Sabres lobby to wait a little bit why don't we implement that a year down the line that seems a bit drastic right now because of course. The sabres route for their own interests if you're a team it's drafting thirteenth or fourteenth and the proposal is to get those teams a chance to win the first pick. How my vote and oh yes definitely I think that's a great idea this is great for competitive balance my team finished twelfth last year I'd love to pick first so. You know I'm gonna serve might myself in my own interests. The GM's you know the 321 point system which came up yesterday LA good I'm glad it did or calling penalties or all these minor things they talk about what you end up having is a group of people that is not responsible for growing the game tasked with. Hell find this great ideas on how to grow the game. And I asked they're the ones that vote on replay are they the ones that bring all this stuff in because there's been a lot of changes to hockey and there haven't been nearly enough positive change the hockey. And now again missile spins off a conversation about one article I saw about replay in soccer right think. You know what I'd bet the GM's vote for and the fans will hate it and no one will listen in and ends up feeling like you know the state of America these days there's like there are. I I don't know sure there are two sides to every story but people just wanna feel like they're being hurt. And sports fans right now I would sports fans feel like their opinions are heard ever tonight. You know we just show up would pay money we go to the stadium we salie its products no good and the commissioner walks out he says the game is better than ever. The I saw a story today the NFL will hit fourteen billion dollars in revenue and this this next football season. You think they're really worried about Balkman last year. The guys at first take we're talking about the show the day Robin Lundberg made the point and I think he's right last year was the first year and how long. People were talking about out who may ratings and I'm NFL's got not just that the NFL's got it's just there was all of them stopped. There were the ratings there which there is a litany of things that we're going on. That people were were were off the ratings issue people were coming up this list of things that were wrong with the NFL. And for the first time people were bringing up the idea that maybe the NFL's not Teflon after all everything doesn't just slide off that great fourteen billion dollars in revenue last when he seventeen reject. Well hopefully we are seeing a time on the way where these sports leagues start to pay attention we've seen the NBA think they're sorry the and it. And after Al. Thinking about short commercial breaks maybe fewer commercial breaks us all rob Manfred said they yesterday till about baseball yes. Open to shore commercial breaks I'll OK I'm stunned and well you you've got the mean maybe it's the next generation that can't pay attention or at least allegedly I'm pay attention and maybe that ends up being a good thing for every one. As all the sports leagues and everybody else is kind of ends of saying. All right we have due out with a streamlined this product we have to continue to keep it fawn at the end of the day these sports became popular because they were fun they're fun to go to fun to watch you get you know community identity becomes whether it. And if soccer were to get replay. I'll I'll be broken I will be broken as a sportsman. The only thing of previously also you're saying you would call our show and say I'm done with soccer. I think help. I would be broken them. You just you can't. It's it's duck it's our last the last bastion of if you're a last place we have. They have the good the technology with a does Braff has a wrist watch that it go man who looks at his watch now been going. Keep lion. If you'll wind yes what I thought it did it doesn't matter to watch says it did a scalp. Wait a minute let's stop I know it ought to check with a darkroom in London hold on no dice says its goal let's go suck it up. If they if they take that away from the from humanity. Well like I said they should just watch the other sports and talk for the Fed to the other sports are seeing their their their their GameStop while three guys gather around a tablet or. Two guys put on headsets to hear from somebody at the MLB office or some guy and a striped shirt goes under opposed with a hood over it now. Just please don't do that to me all right what else all that from GT FO. That's pretty good not but the NH document which have been some radical stuff yes true all right what's radical. Because yesterday dating shot blocking follow alienating shot blocking high or work. 171000. Blocked shots last season in the NHL the flyers lead the way it was about 700 witch hollow out nine shocking or possibly stop it well one of the things are talking about. Is you can't go down the ice at all to block a shot of sliding no dropping down nothing I'm not sure if you could actually. Mandate a player to step out of the shooting lane on a shot comes through you definitely can but at the very least they're talking about you know no sliding a going down the block shots some. They are let's see so that was one of them they were talking about oh I mentioned the Red Line. Not having to face off circles on the sides. One faceoff circle in the slot so in theory you'd eliminate boring puck battles along the wall after a face off. They think it would increase scoring chances by doing that. Let me think oh my god the things they think when you it will increase scoring chances. The face off in the middle of the arts let's see what else you wanna know OK puck battles shot blocking fumble that might. Most likely to think. There was increased the size of the offensive zone increased Olympic dump it you can no longer dump a pocket you have to carry the puck in. That's not happening. That you know. To try to do something with congestion around the net they're big thing was there's too much congestion around the net how to we alleviate the congestion around the net. What that that seemed to be like. The big issue and then offer that were issues of how to do that whether it's a little eliminating shop blocking faceoff circles whatever but there's too many it's. I'm gonna say this once again this is all the line it's all well and good idea for different brainstorming groups yesterday. State guys opt hapless skaters go four on four full time or call penalties do that to call penalties don't even have you don't have to radically blow up your game. And the size of the ice and where circles are and shot blocking. Take up body off the ice and open the game up it's four on four. Period and you won it you and great yes call your penalties you know what. That is gonna say it's it's it is a radical change to say he serve the full two minutes no matter what but call your penalties and open up the ice. And you'll have you'll have the game opened up a little bit more there. That these still by the end of the what and that the dead are you still will always do with coaches. Who will spend hours trying to figure out how to defend foreign four and the clog up the shot lanes and do whatever they can't stop scoring chances with one less guy on the eyes. But I I read all that stuff. And it's cool that they've said no ideas too crazy. They're you know they're talking about all this stuff all these different things and I thought you know what just get a guy up the ice for each team and its foreign four and you can skate in life will be better. I don't think that's happening any time soon. I does not eliminate the job basically let itself as saints I couldn't is still carry the same number skaters would you need to. And issue what you redeem my floor to be chopping off line. In its history just changed the game sold radically so drastically I'd. It's tough for me to think I said no ideas to grazing well that that doesn't mean they're gonna implement anything I can't even get them to implement the obvious 321 points as well they talked about it they talked about it yesterday it did come up for discussion some GMs were OK with the idea others were resistant to the what could you possibly resist about it. What's the resistance besides Brian Burke using these bad math what else is there. I haven't heard a good case against it. It'll some GM brought the idea of just getting we lose a point entirely let's go back to two points for a win. One point for both teams have that if they tie and have no overtime and overtimes go back to where it was thirty years ago. You play sixty minutes she win you get to lose against zero that's tied to both get one have a nice night thanks for coming. All the games would end faster that's true. And then you eliminate three points being awarded for some games you know two point being awarded for other games being played at the same time the other thing you would eliminate is a lot of your exciting endings how many exciting endings a year are there and hockey because over time exists even if you hate to shoot out or -- fun funny 300. Exciting endings in a year would be wiped off the year and this and the league would say odds better because we couldn't just agree on the 321 point system. We want to won a points system we're. More familiar with and eliminated three on three overtime which is everyone's favorite part of this it's exciting it's really a sixty minutes to get the best spark into the fourth 444 overtime was still a step up from regulation play. You finally see the game open up well course both teams had a point it is now where when there's a penalty called an overtime I feel like we're getting robbed. Thank I'll consider our with their play Tampa said that it was yeah on straight and four on three and then Tampa comes out of the box he played four on four and I feel like. This is lame. I don't want to walk on for a while three on three. When you get to four on as I wish I think rob ray said what about three on two I I think they should do that debt. I wanna declined penalties and more time for the I don't want the four on thread rather a three on three yeah four on three slows it down makes it boring in and gets to a half court kind of set which is just kind of lame. Anyway. 321 point system call your penalties. I'll be available at any moment NHL call me balmy 8030550. Points to a change is one that's obvious the other one that's already on your books call penalties go to 321. And soccer if you get instant reply I'm gonna come and pick it outside your stadiums every one of them all travel world picketing every senator talking like Premier League I mean I don't even worldwide it doesn't if it's in any league it's dangerous celebrities to stay away. It is a disease instant replay. Let me get to a Christian west Seneca were guitar break Chris you're on WG jogger right ahead. Hey guys you know. We just finished the game and are all I thought awarded points but lose it but. My point is rocket is that nobody is in trouble I mean expanded debate it as a ridiculous it's helpful well then obviously. He can't get here at four under quite sure you guys or our ports and port. The Liggett is getting to that now the question and out of the cities are well back in seven. Cities were act if need more successful. As a guy. Our right to remain to call I do not agree on action either one again nobody gets a point for losing you get atop a point want to tie. And you play for another one no one ever got a point for losing sabres lost to Pittsburgh they get a point for losing it. Now they get a point for tying Tampa though and in the play for bonus points and on the on the expansion point. Can I argue this. How to like give more goals opening him I get worse players on the ice I need defenseman who are as good and goalies who aren't as good. A win because screen and you could say the available standing out leads to know hundred point scores I think the fact that they're there are so much talent. Is what kills hundred point scores from now I've got third line specialists to go out there and they are so good their soul good. If I had a complete Olympic rosters you nevertheless US Canada game it was the most boring game you've ever seen in your entire life and because candidate is so good you had to play that they can shut everything down to I don't. I mean I understand and I shouldn't say I disagree but I I've I have started look at it differently. That expansion is bad. I don't think so. I don't think the talent pools then Chris I think the game is killing itself. I think the way the way they call the game that that everything we've just talked about the the lack of penalties there's talent in this league that can score there that. There are guys in this league that can skate that can shoot the can score but the way the game is called by the officials the waiting game is coached. By the coaches. It is it is called in a way to not allow offence to flourish. So you can look at and say. X number hundred point score sheet season in the seventies and eighties. And now look at the 2000 and say the numbers have dropped dramatically and I'll say is it's the game doing it to itself. With a combination of the coaches and the officials because look at it. Right when I grew up as a hockey fan. You had your top scoring line you hope you got some from your second line to third language or checking line and the fourth line with your fighters right the energy line whatever you wanna call them. Now teams are being built to have four lines of scoring which is great and puck moving defenseman who joined the rush you don't have guys just stay at home right when I grow up again it was you want that big physical stay at home defenseman. Not every team at poppy or very few teams at Bob New York now you better have that puck moving defenseman who. It can take the puck himself. Pass it join up go up as a five man unit that's so to me. If it's not a lack of talent is how the game has been has been legislated. And how it is approached by the coaches and the coaches coach to prevent goals and that's to me what's killing the sport. Eight don't appreciate the call 8030550. To join us 888550. To 550. We just treated out Britain did at the WGR count. Nice little wrap up. Article from some of the brainstorming going on yesterday by NHL GM's you can give an opinion on that or read the article. We're joined now we've been discussing a wanna get some football too because in five and half hours. Teams can start talking to free agents. So the bills can start talking to any free agent quarterback they like to see you it might take to get him to come to buffalo. We'll discuss that and a moment did bowels were listed 7:45 this morning on WGR. Any film version the crystal ball try to forecast how to make the game better perhaps in the next five to ten years and to get them in the mood to motivate some of these perhaps outside the box thinking ideas they showed video clips from the sixties the seventies the eighties and nineties rate up to 2010 to just illustrate further that there has been a lot of evolution and changes that have been embraced by the National Hockey League decade by decade I'm not sure that there's going to be anything radical that comes out of these meetings but there's certainly some interesting things that are being discussed among them automate the game last defense of than it is today. That's parent trigger the jets send covering NHL GM meetings in Boca Raton Florida though continued today Tim. Timber and one of the things I soften him was he was. They were talk about the bye week. And how to fix the bye week and he mentioned how didn't work for us we we have five days off they sent us the Colorado we play Odom played a mile high after getting five days off. You talked about at least the first came out of the pioneer times on the measure until muted by the worst team in hockey it's true. But staying in your time zone or having a bye with somebody else you're division and YouTube play against each other as both of your first game out of the pot merry. 8030550. Join us got some football to get too because we'll tell you about that moment it's a big day in the NFL you can legally campers beginning at noon today for. Three accounting period opens up you can't talk to Tyrod Taylor he's not a free agent his contract which can't talk to Dan Carpenter. Or you could have kind of run and do Tyrod agent Indianapolis coincidentally. Millions xetra hey there amendments agent how're things going with a built one. Little fun with stat moment here FR BC Dan Carpenter. On his way to town shake his hand as he turns and walks away. You can say hello him can hear it. Now that your insulting him they're goes the most accurate kicker in bills history is that right that he is these ads the most accurate field goal kicker. In buffalo bills' history. I just know that around a water cooler today or a father and some liked I got a guy. He was the large exactly a list actually dad are actually son he was the most accurate kicker. In bills history had a bad year lastly I miss the big ones that it is important ones ones you know things when I saw the stats any issues the issues with PH keys but. Five of eleven from forty plots in a badge on Dan Carpenter like now. And money Mandan loved carpenter but it's like it was time when her he thought it was safe just because Rex was gone. As one of the weirdest things Rex did by the way in his entire time here. Well you should at least get the fight with my field goal kicker right first first training can get let's call up the kicker that's on the good idea let me just fight with my kicker publicly till she was released property or one of five bills players released yesterday including the cal Roby Coleman. They cleared out about six million dollars in cap space with the five guys who were cut. So the legal tampering period begins at noon today you can officially talked to free agents and their agents you can't officially signed them nudge nudge wink wink. Until Thursday at four is a report the bills have given they Al load tender to restricted free agent running back Mike Gillis they that means he could make. One point 97 million dollars this year was one point 79 I'll check. But does have right of first refusal if they don't match any offer for him that get a fifth round pick is Kyle so someone signs Gillis Lee away the bills get a fifth fifth round pick because he was a fifth round pick original when I came into the so this is the same level of tender for Chris Hogan but Chris Hogan was undrafted. So there was no compensation. For Chris Hogan correct. I gotta say I like Gillis we just fine. Eid Al Albee on the side of anyone that same wire the bill's spending so much money on running backs the spending a lot of McCoy who always. I mean McCoy is incredible Gillis Lee's really good. I gotta think I could just find somebody. I don't join me to commit this much money to my my pair of running backs I guess a from the number one rushing offense in a I needed insurance policy for McCoy. I can do a lot worse I like daily deals only one point seven million dollars it's a 165. Million dollar cap so I'm OK with it it's probably better than. Mean that's about the same amount of money they're gonna try and keep Hogan for men and they don't throw the ball that much at least they haven't. So I am not you know and the furious about it it's it's puzzling on one level because they're running backs and their kind of easy to find. But ghostly I I agree he is pretty good Torrey Smith released by the 49ers. I don't mind that idea. I would like him I'm I you know like I I don't know again that the problem with any free agent wide receiver or even a guy gets released is. Like they wanna come here. Right I mean like all shunned Jeffords gonna hit the market at well you can talk to him at noon DeSean Jackson. Pure DOS on there are some good names up there that'll that'll be on the free agent market. Wire and even come in here like you know eat it he read was it DeSean Jackson. Said I wanna go I wanna go play with a great quarterback OK to scratch buffalo off your list of potential suitors then I mean why would these guys come here. He even if Tyrod still here no one's expecting this to be a high high potency passing offense next season. So I just I I like Torrey Smith I think his speed his ability on this roster re a hell of a compliment for Sammy Watkins but. What receivers coming here. I just don't I don't know in this NHL GM meetings were held yesterday the try to get more old fence in the league. And there the 37 consecutive year and then they will make a change that won't do anything. But though claim it's gonna lead story chances and they talked about you know they'll bring story about what the game will be like in five to ten years we know tonight the sabres will play 730 against Philly. NB CS and game you wanna hear Rick and rob it's right here in WGR. Joseph Thornton had curses 1000 last night for the San Jose Sharks and those are sports headlines next update coming up at 7 o'clock. So. In. Five hours and 21 minutes the legal tampering period can begin so the bills could talk to the agent for Brian Hoyer. Or Mike Glenn and or anybody out image some call in order I'm not interest in the line and anybody that's on the free agent list they can talk to the agents. I thought about going in and what it means hmmm so Brock DOS Wyler just got that huge contract and the league said. Mom watched yeah. Mike Glenn and has thrown it almost no passes in two years. He had one good year with Tampa before Jim as Winston showed up and now all he's gonna get like fifteen million dollars in free agency. What is what does this mean well what are we seeing. With these quarterbacks that we know all are not good and are not proven. Getting soul much money from GM's it is it. Is there a take away for you although that they are about where we're the salary it's I don't have all the numbers in front of me but that's. Around twentieth right he's going to be EL in the bottom. Third ish you know salaries that's where the lower tier quarterbacks are starters why are they there. They know it's it's the most important position on the field and teams are over okay I ironic team why in the world what I pay fifteen million dollars for that. When I know I can get a guy of that caliber for. A fit us the word of that I'm not sure you can't anymore I mean if they're gonna start given back up seven million dollars a year to look at why daughter firth and why are they giving back up seven million dollars of their crazy. I just it doesn't financially as he and the marketplace it doesn't make sense to chase chased and got seven last year yeah back up that the Buccaneers. Offered Mike Glenn and over eight million dollars a year reportedly took to be a famous Winston's backup. To never play I mean ideally never polite guys Stewart's guys being offered eight million dollars a year to hold the clipboard is crazy. I mean Mike Clinton would Demi he's good right he's gonna go to the market and say hey gaffe free market you wanted to start in Chicago or the jets call work the bills call. Hey dissing you know. Ours are making eight million to do nothing. So Mike Price starts that let's double that if I'm going to be a start why isn't happening. I think because GM's realize how important position is and it's driven the price up for everybody well a cornerback marketplace up to meet appears to be. Broken norm or Majorly flawed maybe it also can edged real quick and the despondent this is a possible part of this. Is kind of a make good because they changed the draft used to be if you're a high quarterback you get a ton of money. They changed that there's a rookie cap so now that first contract for a quarterback this is Glenn its first contract out I think his rookie deal. You kind of make up for rookie cap so Obama quarterback on the market can get on the money then maybe. I think it looks like these are GM's I don't know what they're doing. Why would you ever pay Michael when that money I knew you saying he's twentieth well lighted the bills but one of the bills put together the contract to put together for Tyrod after one year I don't know how many because season because in maybe this is. Of the wrongly for me to make because GM is now that they have no clue how to find a good one. They know they can't they know it's lock. They know their scouts can do the best that they can but for. Mike went in to get fifteen million and Tyrod Taylor is on the open market and gets eighteen million. These GMs are saying sure I know these guys are flawed and these guys have a ceiling. Bought. I need to keep my job and the way to keep my job is to get somebody that's at least competent at that position. Even not even about pay eighteen. Million dollars this is actually I'm a nut to sing it in cases where teams are spending. And and making mistakes Denver's a good example of this Denver offer us while we're like fourteen million. And he laughed and they kept Simien as their starter who was a 600000 dollar to happen. And he was better than perhaps costs while last year so why I think it's just so apparent that these GM's. I am not even trying to be critical because I'm not saying I would know how to do it it's such a random event. They're just given out money to a guy they they know it's kinda good if you're the GM of the Bayer's and you get about this contract you say well I mean c'mon guys is the 21. Highest paid quarterback in league. Congratulations and god its eleventh is gonna go to the Pro Bowl every year and you've got number 21 and got it hasn't thrown a pass in two years bore you out. Bidding that the group of teams that are bidding for these guys use is a case about Tyrod to I've got the league's losers. All getting together. Desperate to spend money on quarterbacks that aren't that good men. Because they're really good ones never hit the mark shouldn't this group of teams all in the same room look at each other and say guys. What are we doing fight nobody scraps. To urge us to tell but but but the browns. Have spent how many picks on quarterbacks including multiple first round picks the jets have spent. How many picks a lot of backs high picks in recent years and they all roll craps they do so let's just go into the market and find a guy who might be able to manage the game for so let here's the going rate fourteen million and stop looking let's spend more than we showed and let's settle on a guy we know isn't that good. Speaking of the jets pro football talk jets think Mike one is headed to Chicago which could turn their eye toward Tyrod Taylor. This is from Darin gantt at top pro football talk many she met other New York Daily News has downplayed the jets' interest in Michael went and but says the pursuit of Taylor. If the bills let him go makes sense. Mike McCann and said we're going to do everything possible to make ever position competitive in particular that position whether it's free agency of the college draft. We do like are too young quarterbacks but they're both young and able have to go out there and earn whatever position they may eventually have on the team. It seems like the bills are holding had a big domino. Maybe the biggest one outside Tony Romo Romo is the biggest domino and Tyrod is the second biggest. And the only teams I've got fighting about over these guys are the bad ones. Well again if the bad ones the bad ones some of them not like the bills some of them have kept drafting. But the keep coming up with the wrong guys so they're gonna go on and guess said that look at your plea okay. You've got a gazillion million billion dollars encapsulates our budget tech's Ed up bunch of picks. Let's go spend fort I mean fourteen million dollars but if they wanted to Mike Leonard Tyrod Taylor 141516. Million dollars. Isn't gonna kill them cap wise. And they're looking at that they can we take a shot at this guy hopefully it works I would think they'd still draft a quarterback in Cleveland and bring any young got to work with hue Jackson but. The really good quarterbacks never hit the market no that's right and as as the great one very prayers out is all go up the great ones go to twenty to 25 million dollars. You know cousins is gonna get is tagged right 25 million. So those guys don't hit the market the great ones get raises so the scale slides up for everybody so the bottom tier of quarterbacks goes from seven or 8000002 fourteen or fifteen million dollars the house where a contract was. Just wrote this very event that turned actor in the market to bottom tier quarterback he started ten games before the game that deal it's crazy. To get that kind of money. I mean in and Tyrod essentially got. Staying deal cut a kind of a two year 35 million dollar ish thing if you wanted to get out of it six years 9690. Yep and it is one year is a starter it's not that he'd put Clinton doesn't deserve fourteen million dollars a year that's ludicrous. But. You're if you're desperate for quarterback and you know the good ones never hit the market. And you've tried to draft and it hasn't worked out and you'll keep drafting that you're gonna find. Quote quote quote the best guy out there on the market and here's what the going rate is fourteen million dollars well. I shouldn't just point out that it's only the bad teams that want the quarterbacks because that makes sense if you're good team Chancery quarterbacks go you're not gonna change that cat guy out. But I on Taylor and clan in. The defense of ranks OK here your defensive ranks deep VOA Denver had the best defense in the league last year according to deviate away and that is. Paxton lynch maybe that's the Trevor Simien and they're not looking to dim outlook for Romo outsider Romo I don't think they're gonna make you change then come the giants. Are they asking about Tyrod Taylor now. Are the Arizona Cardinals asking about Tyrod Taylor. Seattle Philadelphia Baltimore Houston San Diego Minnesota Carolina Vizio top ten defense is indeed VOA. It's only the really bad teams that also don't have a quarterback it's almost like. Every time I get a text or tweeted says hey man give Tyrod a defense and he can win pocket the teams or defense is don't wanna do that then none of them do you know. And yet I'm endlessly told if you had a defense he could win with this guy I don't even disagree. But if it was if he's a player that the league thought. Was a big time factor in wins and losses than I would have the good teams trying to get them to me that's what Romo is Romo who wants Rommel everybody. The Denver might want him Arizona was rumored one point Houston is it is there was this San Francisco we knew everybody wants Rommel that's assign that guys truly coveted. Meanwhile decline in Taylor and whoever else is I mean you might want toss the bills in this group of teams if you think nick polls. Now I've got other teams at the bottom all fighting over. Just what that raw meat. Yeah that is Jews I hate to say the best because it in the in first but the best of what's left the best of what's left. The guys that have not won a lot. Eagle 30515 to join us this morning 888550. To 515 dead about the coming up at 745. On WG. With the forestry start producing sector clergy but by the year before it was -- -- quarterback I think because of his lack of experience and because of the demeanor it kind of been approached Gary Kubiak which has always been a little bit conservative of about that the public Serbs that they held him back a little bit of billboard games obviously we've because you didn't make the play have to buy themselves behind to mitigate that are forced to throw the football coaches like you have a pet food is ready to throw the ball well we times and you know pluggable read what well. He's got the art guys fatalistic about the letter what. Divers with the Cotto talk Q he. Got beat are to make every single throw in NFL quarterback me to buy back validation with him but he is Smart guy about. This Mark Johnson KOA radio in Denver Gonzales yesterday talking about Trevor Ximian. If you miss it it's an on demand audio it's a story today in Denver from with KUS state television that if the Broncos get Romo. Instantly they'll receive calls about Trevor sent me portrayed. And that Paxton lynch would be the backup Tony welcomes and plays however long it's gonna play. If he stays healthy it's his job if he doesn't then they have Paxton went behind emanated instantly get all the calls on Trevor cement got a tweet about Tyrod speaking of Romo and trades. The bill should be pulling a Jerry Jones who's who's saying he's going to keep rubble. That that's being done to drive the price up and get other operas. I assume you're saying that that the bills that would Tyrod you would drive his price of get offers on the trade market one key factor here bigger on the block until Saturday and that's Tony Romo. And this is Tyrod Taylor well that the cowboys on a deadline he just under contract Tyrod deadline wacky. Saturday at 4 PM I guess or no for. The set levens shattered by Friday at 4 PM there'll there'd decision has to be into the league office by the end of business day Friday. So the eleventh this Saturday that the actual deadline but it has to be. Decided upon and told to the league by Friday at 4 PM so the blocking period ends in about three days. By then you have to have something on Tyrod Taylor. You lose humans Seton segue speaking of bluffing to the Vegas golden knights signed their first ever player yeah Reid duke in the trivia. Name the biggest nights players. Duke's thinks you're just ran the table here Reid duke he's good at taking blocks. Good for re duke we're taking charge read redo its freeagent playing I think in the western hockey again I think. So it actually makes sense to them you know free agent contracts. They'll be draft and I hope they when that I hope they win the lottery and I really don't. 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