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It started to get busy around the Buffalo Bills in the NFL the bills today announced that they have. Exercise their exclusive rights by tender offers to a couple of players running back Mike you'll mostly in guard Ryan grow ridiculously tendered at the right of first refusal and capitation with the player's original draft round. The fifth round which means of another team wants to sign Mike you'll see the bills would have a chance to match that offer. If they do sent him to get a fifth rounder in return not issued a restricted free agent tender today potter Colton Smith along with linebacker I am Polly. Both of them will become free agents as of Thursday. Those made moves yesterday parting with a five players including. Kicker Dan Carpenter long snapper garrison Sanborn and a veteran quarterback. The cal Roby Coleman tight and Gerald Christian and safety Phillip Thomas also released from the roster. NFL teams have potential free agents can now negotiate legally the two day NFL negotiation period that started at noon. The sides can start the pairing off with negotiate. Before they can execute a contract. On Thursday the league year starts Thursday at 4 PM probably moves happening all over the place the Los Angeles starters parting ways with the former first round draft pick. Offensive lineman DJ smoker. Released by the chargers the chargers also. Parting ways with former bills wide receiver. Stevie Johnson temperatures of forty niners have. Let go wide receiver Torrey Smith he signed a five year forty million dollar deal with the 49ers just a couple of years ago. Hockey the Buffalo Sabres on tonight against Philadelphia 730 Faso we keep banks that are. Robin lateral get the starting gold Jack Michael's point streak is at ten games the longest active streak in the NHL. And in the NBA Andrew Bogut just an hour Sosa after seeing how excited he went to join the Cleveland Cavaliers broke his left leg he played less than a minute. In the camps game last night. An injury that could force Cleveland to resume their search for a big man. And that is the sports update from one bills drive. John Murphy Donald Jones here and are one buffalo studio with Jim Murphy show presented by NAPA Auto Parts and joined on this Tuesday by. A frequent visitor we missed him last week were hampered him this week Steve tasker joins us in studio the bills while the Famer and long time. And a felon CBS color me and what's so funny. You say don't mean you say you missed me out now we didn't issue last week president elect mr. It's like the shirt I just got it looks and wanted to work with the censure for fifteen you know fifteen weeks in room. Change the fact America. I don't hear it out for Alison fine. I gotta be honest it's my season and I have to you know do any draft worker except what we do here in the show and I could I did not tune in for even one moment. Of these come if you like better for. That becomes I was it was the come what you instead. Did you elect a service work you've put up this last week earnest last week he wouldn't look like huge I would Shockey I told you I did this last weekend to my boys you know the two that are here in town. We went out and can't in winter camping. It in the woods and went to first night Saturday Sunday night it was in no we didn't take tents we we bush crafted. Shelters lot and down with one degree on Saturday night so. We hung out and it was it was a blast it on just. Hiked a little bit and you know he spent a lot of time. China is fire chopping firewood. We had a blast it was fun great is beautiful of those great can actually went the whole week ended stepped inside or outside must not. Too much there's about six inches on the ground it was old. And apple but you know to get the fun part that we can tell us and I was apply it to win last. Week and yet to craft some sleep NC campus and work into the you can invest in the campsite you do is injured but notice the first time we've ever done a winner camping. We reduce some of the stuff in the summer which grace. You know. So it's. It's what did you make to shelty yourself I platform and and lean to with rafters and that ridge ridge pole and tar ovaries and a they did virtually the same different design and their partners that we crafted and chopped wooden and in the piece that ran. But steaks and work it was good where they're from about forty hours. Arguably the revenue it just enough gavel there we recent the recent gifts to each other well get ready for the weirdest the close of the week and got this last week in the lower the temperature which is debate. It got down one degree that night we route are the first time and it was. You could feel. Better now know some coyotes. We hear them. I didn't neither happened but I need your voice deep and so I mean we're all in total. But sometimes. Summertime too much easier or more fun more free time afterward. Stand what did you see. Well this week. Breakthrough because it's all outdoors a refrigerator and you bring quarters action would be if you want to. For a correction to its. Yes all the stuff we've provost was great fun. I didn't feel like you're at the combine your public might you've got to be I was confident yeah you gotta speak I was an Elliott and right this thing about a was halfway over we went to breakfast and it was nice just to order a cup coffee not a go through the rigmarole of you know oil and which are targeted pictures history I got pictures on the phone believe me we were in Indy complain about local. Just the night. Five minute walk and hopes of the movement that's one thing we didn't complain how cold it was we knew we you know we need is gonna complain about it. You know as Wednesday. That's impressive see tester continues to do press that's a bit watch account mine that's OK but yet he spent the weekend outdoors and very press seems well that's for the next hour so if you like to a join in the fall line so putted 8030550. Toll free 1888. By fifty to 550 or by Twitter Timothy Joseph Steve we got a lot going analyst and yet let me start with a guy who you're close with this Steve Christie. Who have put this FaceBook post up who work. But just to read it he said I did interpreter but yesterday you know that. A Christie's that I did offered help but was told by the Gian that he would not be receptive to. Outsiders you'd think after kicking there for nine years I wouldn't be considered an outsider but. Rather inexperienced resource that was available to go to doubles specialist in time of need theory that. All I think that comes from I think it's as much of five. I don't think is that the organization and have fond spot and it's hard for Steve. I think he's probably an individual thing with carpenter and I may be hurt me the cross and maybe around one idea but I I know this too too many voices can kind of start to cloud the guys thinking. But believe me I'd I'd never kick for a kicker are never held for kicker like Steve Christie again who's. He's amazing and he's a great resource great teammate. It was a great great pro kicker and a I would be surprised in him particularly if if carpenter knew that he wanted to reach out to in the corporate when he reached back in own engine and say yeah what do you think at least have a couple conversations I'd put more on dank partner that we're on the bills organization question. And that's I mean that's exactly out so you know to write to your first point to me it was muted especially kickers because there's. Every little thing news. Me yeah there's a level of technical that none of us get to have their vocabulary. As it's not just. Ages you know swing through maybe you know it's not like that can cross the finish they've got they've got some you know. They've got a vocabulary that I'm not familiar with I've heard him but. I think carpenter probably if he's like every other pro athlete. He's got his own guys calls right. I think though the when you do get a call from a guy like like Steve Christian most the time he reached back and say listen I appreciate it at least. They didn't have to do that particularly now that the bills have released in. Yeah when you go through a tough time most of those guys have resource they go to and it's nice to be offered. But it's also nice and maybe maybe it did come from dance naked you brush him off warriors this rather not and that and the club said that form and I think you generally that defeat the player. I've mentioned it now how do you end Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas locals. Bills alumni high profile bills alumni have a good enough relationship not just with management here group with an and I think if Thurman especially in this regard with players on the team and come to practice you do to become to practice instead on the sideline and and players recognize them venture that you used well and we'll come over and talk to me almost want to informal basis like that right instead of she oh yeah yeah yeah I don't know and predecessors something. Mean all talked to have to ask me specific question I'll get whatever right now right no question about it do that for I mean fight if I'm out on the road doing them. Bengals browns game comment Friday onus Bengals game. You know I'm you know the guy comes up that they'll talk to him to excuse later exactly exactly just briefly AM language met once or twice those and I certainly. Oh on. I think everything will players flattered. By that but you really I mean I would be and I have been I mean I'm in five guys it what do you think about ABC and I'm and I talent it's really flattering to have them. Seek it out Renny takes a special kind of guide them. To do that to recognize that their guys who did some stuff before you around. And to try to seek them out I think is pretty special qualities are where. Now I think it's it's one thing to come over to sideline and talked to a guy who was a former player hall of fame whatever that's another thing for that guy to actually. Maybe change your technique and things to doing especially if your ticker. Just because like you said the language is different and every little thing that they do. Is a big thing you know and so if if you say listen you step this way he does that. They can throw everything off more you know so that's probably wide gambles like you know I respect you. I'm OK again it's a lot of. Comes down the guy you gotta pick your spots a first only got to watch the guys know what he's doing so you know you want attacked on the knew exactly the opposite of what you might. Most of those guys when they start talking their candidates talk about their mind for use for him mine particularly kickers because. It's not so much about the technique that you're your techniques little different than his or would technique helped you may not help him. It's more about getting into place where your top pitcher hit that ball and hated every time right I mean that's more what they're focusing on. Technique is different for guys although there some general obvious. Similarities. I think they stick with that kind of mind frame and I think of our players do that to even guys like medium and I am. I'd. And people ask me specific stuff about when the way I was I I think a lot shocked but I talk more about what I was thinking rather than when I was. I don't from being around in carpet near the couple years he's been here. Hum he was always reluctant to publicly discuss. His struggles and it is understandable but remember a couple of years ago when he was he was missing so much extra points and also because it's here number it'll guarantee me he went to short here in any when he did acknowledge that is that. You know slump busters up like that and and I get I mean he's you know it's a tough. It it's such a mental thing with kickers and they are a little bit quirky and and always seem like he didn't wanna acknowledge if he was struggling a sloppy. I get an absolute not a huge I am back in the day mean Steve Christie himself coming he had a slump and it was me he missed one kick. Two different games in a row with. Our it was only for him it was a sloppy and so he and I mean he and I would it would go up for beer Wednesday night after a subdued you know most Cutley list was well for pop. On Wednesday justice. Reconnect your you know just relax because you know the because when he starts missing kicks in my question whether it was hold it right bush went there could act or anything more I could do is any when I start ask him that. He senses that I'm down have doubts if so. We had to wash out all away with that with a couple pops and and we got and you know course. It's great without me so it was more about me it was him. The so different for cases yeah if you're the receiver you might see receivers look at that and the semi dead on the course of the game by. And you you'll see a receiver dropped one. And they might not have a big game the rest of the game like auto backup you know he's out one in the playoffs and that was it form work. I kickers it's like magnified because everything is technically every step that they take means so much you know so. You don't want to put different things in the guys who will. Ultimately. I still. I talked to a Scott or about this Steve and he's the one who really brought to my attention this. Similarities between kicking and gulf which I'm sure you can identified with its. It's basically stroke and you get into group with stroke you know losing yet. Those and let's face it they've got to get that way every Sunday and they go through times where you McCain in a typical week. You know they get to play you know making it. It can't get out during Eva then you know they communicate finder in the game were just the opposite they're kicking. Great all week in the missed it in Austria five to answer to that three attempts so. You're right it is something about stepping up to it. And do and just like you always have the thing about kickers and I and maybe it's because I did it. We get a hold or somebody else and members guys we got their sarcastically we're punt the ball around and you know Fuller trying to kick field goals and stuff. And that. Was Chris Moore somebody maybe somebody called shop where you punt the ball down and went right out worries that was going to be. And Scott who is. Notoriously. Stone Femi Stowe I mean he is jokes are dead and all expected he looked at is set it. Must be nice to hold your own football there are now and that is it's true. I mean you know he's dependent on the snapper holder in the owner if he can even have to be good snap it's a one hopper can pick it up to still get the thing on earth so. You know kickers to pin is you know he's. He has. In the hands of the holder. To a great extent. What I think happened with a game covered her and the the longer extra point your around the team a lot cover the team a lot pre season especially in. Regular season games a longer. You know 33 yard try for the extra point. That ahead and if it has had an effect on the game at last two years but it seemed like there were a couple of kickers and I think arbiter I think he missed five in each of the last two years maybe suffered with a it is much as anybody in the league. Sure I'm not. So he did have a leg to get it there right Anna and you're right I mean it is all. There's no question is between their ears. Sometimes to look there's no question he he can in November December January. And more of those kicks going to be blown wide of the near misses are going to be mrs. Instead of just inside the going to be just outside or vice Versa. So. The later in the year I think the more you see that but by Santo and pleasing question. The fact that it's harder to hit. Is it is the big reason and I is never going to be able quantify which ones were mental mistakes and which ones were just because it's longer. But that's the desired effect that the league put it in their four. And it's worked exactly the way they wanted to. Despite game car partner and Mario yeah. Steve tasker joins us in studio the bills so long time a special team are you welcome to join us at 8030550. Or toll free 1888552. By fifty. You're the specialists are we're gonna go right down the list here garrison Sanborn. Nine years to Buffalo's a long snapper talk about special as they should. Those guys and you've been close with many of them over the years but they live on the the razors that they can't they can't miss a snap. And and to his credit Sam or didn't do it is just you know you get an eerie to ninth year of a sudden you're making pretty good money and he's I don't wanna have that much money tied I've said time and time again of. If you have a young kid you don't want to. You wanna play if your big kid nice and big kid do a lot of us launch ever for 616. Foot. 235 or like high school linemen you know they like to hear it right date. Strike that our producer of all you gotta do is learn it's a scale it is an absolute learn double skill and if you wanna be a professional football player take up long snapping. And it's a quick half million bucks a year if you can swing. You can do afford an amendment on you do forever you know get a little Adam linger would still be seen happen if his back didn't get sort his elbow didn't give. I mean it's just that simple he's got it was he'd snap so many footballs it hurt him to get into the stance and throw the football back there he was money and Britain are treated forever mark Dell has treated for us we got Adam Langer he was better than dale dale went to Dallas and won four Super Bowl three super balls please let it play forever. And he was you know he was Troy Aikman's best buddy they were their locker next to each other and you know that's the long snapper. And so dale did it Adam Winger did it. John Doran Abbas is still on it. For Philly. It's just a great way to make a league but EU they can't live without it now that the rosters are 53. Everybody has won everybody every major college football program has won every. Division two football team has won every division three football team as you got a long snapper. I was I was in Hugo we have one that's only do those who snapped and every day I have you won the scouts are common in order to recruit as a prominent. From the big schools he was over its own army to snap. It's too weird skill but necessary we had one in my junior colleges well. People get a little antsy when you lose your kicker you lose your long snapper and and today they elected not to put a yep franchise or put it tender on. But on colts met people say all that's that's upheaval going to be new guys together might be new guys right but you couldn't find these guys partners kickers launch effort right now. Yeah and it and the way the bills tracker is and you say what you want there's always every. Administration in every football team has its critics and Doug Whaley is no different but I'll tell you what he's picked some pretty good running backs over the years younger even and we only got one year Carlos Williams they found him and he he gave himself here that you're they had him now and then they had the guts and the fortitude. To kick him to the curb and he did it himself really immigrant but we don't know that he didn't show up and ready to play. Mike Gillis league is plugged in he's every bit as good. I got a lot of faith that this Anne and Mike gill yes you don't know what's your plan that position in the NFL you got a seat on the wall there's guys wait and take that spot and a good and they offer things. So they did the right thing I think with Mike even though I like him I think degree turn I would love to see him back with the bills. But you gotta have a pretty special set skill set. To be a guy that doesn't fall into the category of not being offered at an army got a deal which on the corner Adrian Peterson or in the rookie Adam and Allison. You know everybody you've got to be guy like that and Lawrence Tomlinson because everybody else lady on bell. Everybody else's like you know what I got a guys probably 80% and that I. We have two guys I mean. It's so much running back by committee it just doesn't make sense to pay top top dollar unless you have one of those guys there was some locally agent Peterson in his prime. Leave him though those. It's off Tom and I came in on him no LeSean McCoy is making. Any quarterback. Not right you know it's not even starting probably corner money you know on the is not even French is not making right now would agree this is making that kind of thing so I mean these. Even the great ones are like. You know wouldn't pay that. For God's gonna give us what LeSean McCoy doesn't the last does an argument that money is Adrian Peterson and I think so you know an hour and I passed so that they. And believe me they're not gonna drop off the face of the earth and their run game ran out Adrian cells. And I would expect the same for the bills look at DiMarco merited here he had in Dallas went two years ago three years ago. And they let him go and it was like we were not paying that type of money. And then he decided to fairly get paid didn't have the same year. He had it up better years in Tennessee is very good year. They were like we're not paying you'd entitlement because we haven't guys that we and it's worked out for Dallas DeMarco Murray had it was 18100 yards 16100 yards out here in Dallas he was a user wrecking crew mounted you know. The got a new guy he's doing the same thing so. You know to me. Says more about their ability to pick offensive linemen and running backs. That they got to give organized and in two years. Same thing in Tennessee they did the same thing they got a couple of guys in their key ingredient along with with DiMarco Marie. And then they got they've got some offensive linemen that are there do and singing thing here in buffalo they've got different front five office sublime grown you know looks on course. Even better right. Steve you're in your long career playing career you. Had the opportunity to see kind of evolution of the NFL when you started there was no real free agency isn't playing being and then by the end. Mean the bills or put in the position tortilla and your career where they had the you know maybe the most famous kept cuts of all time with three hall of famers right being released on the same day Bruce Andrea and Thurman. Did you foresee this back in the day that. I I did you think that this would happen in the NFL and you look at it is positive development for the players to play but the mobility and ability players have to make money is that as well certainly most. Guys like me veteran players kind of romanticize. Pass. About how was your guys play and you for the you know for the teammates have their plane hurt disease known stuff. I see that there's no question on the for the players' standpoint it's been a huge benefit for them. The make and way more money the salary cameras Lukens. 168. The league is grown leaps and bounds I think one of the things that has really been a benefit in them yet and it's a little bit like free agency is the way the fans are free agents now. Fantasy football changed everything now the fans are even free agents. They get a cheer for everybody's got a fancy team right right so. And but I think that it and I think. There's no question free agency changed the landscape and we didn't know back when it first started. What that ripple effect was going to be now we've seen there's no questions and benefit for the players. I don't think you can say that it's hurt the game the waiting game has grown worse and bounced. I think he's made the game smaller I think the players form much more fraternal. Across the across the field. They know much many more players on other teams and they did back in my day it was your little kuril islands here in buffalo eagle island in Chicago eagle island and used because. When you they had your right you were there until they were done with. And then by the time he dated guys would move late in their career for one year and it was really never. Like it is and where you get guys in their prime come in and command respect because there's two great players that change to landscape aunts and and you know decrease the size of the league guys know each other and offseason and with the money they have they travel together they trained together they have the same no cross training kind of thing so that I think has been a huge benefit for the players for that reason. Because. There's a level of respect because there's a level of familiarity across the field. And forget the money. The league is made it safer now and of course she'd say they were forced to use it amateurs and maybe. But they're doing it and like I always say the league just back it's every single issue facing it exactly right. And it just takes them way too long to do it. But I think is free agency thing there's no question is huge boost. I think he put them without hats and once we knew today and say my rentals attitude Nat Cole when he says it is paid me the money. It doesn't coincide with his mentality when he was here and it was all about the team analysts people on the stand like. You know this is a god it never has never been paid right 'cause he was a special teams guy now I had a good year went to the Pro Bowl MVP all that stuff and approval. He wants to be paying it later in his career guys wanna get paid just like everybody else is making money he wants to be here and others. He never had a new light on him a little bit alive it is a life changer contrast looking and it's a one this a home run for him so he's got to maximize. Our heat. He'll play in Bangladesh it's the money drug because this that it's gonna change his life. If it comes through like it looks like it should mean a guy got double digit sacks and finally get a chance to play regular down and distance and proved to be that guy. No doubt I mean this a life change for him he's got to maximize and I don't think anybody. With with a straight face serious manner can can fault him for. Talk more about that when we return Steve cancers with a of your welcome to join us phone lines open 803. All fight fifties and number or outside buffalo 1888550. To 550. We're back for more with Steve tasker Jack Murphy show presented by NAPA Auto Parts on Buffalo Bills three. That shows John Murphy Donald Johnson Steve tasker joins us. In studio over the next couple manager welcome to join us and while the phone lines open at 8030550. Your toll free 1888550. 2550 darkened with Steve about a variety of things some of the special teams moves the bills that make and you guys touched on the rental Alexander in doubt that's a good point you made somebody. Wolf let's start with Lorenzo as a statement to Mike's over nfl.com. It's a story that is up on FL that come about Lorenzo hitting the free agent market on Thursday. It determined not to approve determined to prove that he's not just a one hit wonder. It is one of the quotes is people say. I'm one hit wonder never done these things before but it's first time I've been asked to do them. So now I get to hit the market and look you don't need to wine and dine meet the contract you offers gonna show me how much you love me I don't need to go to dinner. Anita tour ever need to see the city to show me the offer. That doesn't let me outs that doesn't sound like the Lorenzo Alexander that we got to know little I don't know it just it. Us economy team's first guy you know us and Europe to sell me you get me I'm going to be in all I think that's what this morning you have to act. That's that's pretty straightforward answer and that's not there's not enough characters there armies in this I know discourses. Every NFL city has pluses and minuses you can put your best foot forward that's not gonna do listen this is about this one time shot for me this is mine contract. All I wanna know is it as he's baseless and I want the highest bidder which is what other guys mean when they say. Anything else who cut cut cut cut a I don't know I think there's nobody in this locker in this building. Or who have known Lorenzo we're gonna tell you anything bad about him right and I think this just goes to show this is a guy who. And good for him and he hit a home run in the bottom of the ninth when his season was right now and Andy and he did it and he deserves let's face it nobody deserves it more than him no you shouldn't cheer for anybody else harder than him just a guy that was a grunt. Take it from a grunt but he was a grant hit now. And now he's playing special teams and was eight at the beginning of the season during training camp wrecked said the same things that environment he's going to be great guy in the locker room. And he environment be special teams guy he's gonna help us and do that plus going to be able to do the defense and analysts and a couple of injuries in this and you know what if we can't go right now at the beginning of pre season wrecks and you know probably go with the greens are Alexander just because we know. He's going to be in the right spot and that's how we got on the field and all of a sudden he's getting a sack a game and he's not going anywhere he's he's a starter. Now. Obviously he came in here abuse specialties died in a special teams guys and tied a career what do team sees him as now you know he said. People look at him as a one year wonder how they value and that. I know he'll find out it up and. That's exactly every team we'll see him differently they're all kind of the same we always know they're all kind of all 32 football teams but every 32 teams are different. And the way they're coaching staff and were they see our veterans Alexander fitting is that going to be 32 different ways and a even if it's the same role in the same thing same snap count in two different teams can be a different role because again different players around him and got different cycle defense. That is a really good question I think even Lawrence would like the answer to because that'll tellem were going to be but. Is this contract and it's only one of the teams really think a special teams guy that great year. Steve tasker in studio with a you're welcome to join us 8030550. Toll free 1888550. To 550 or via Twitter at John Murphy show our body it was a Barca from Rochester tweeted. Question for Steve tasker would you make keeping Robert Woods a priority I think he and Sammy making good tandem what do you think of that. I like Robert I've we went on record a couple of weeks casino I'd love to see him keep him I don't think it's a Smart move to do that given the market I mean. Number two wide outs are going for a lot of money and quite frankly I mean. If you think about it you're gonna pay which rather pay. You know Robert Woods. Eight million dollars a year or off Shawn Jeffrey. You know I think that's a that's pretty legitimate question. Some of those guys are going to be out there it's the robber was is the only wide receiver available who could play. One with Sammy. So again I I I like robber was he's a great player he's gonna play well wherever he plays this next year. But I don't think he's given this the atmosphere here and his role he played on this team that I I think he'd have to step out your financial limits to get him to get every side. If he can do that without doing that absolutely he'd he'd love to have. All Buffalo's freedom most of their free agent. Decisions Deaver or colored by the quarterback question. And we don't have an answer to that question yet we just weather's gonna have to be one but by Saturday beat you know when when tyrants extension of the deadline is up but. Give any thoughts and any you know read any tea leaves that might indicate to you which way to go this I don't or not he's that you're gonna. Seventeen point five million on the cap this year he was fifty finished this next year he's fifteen this last year. It's twentieth highest paid its quarterback in the league. On a team that was the number one rushing team in the league. His contribution. Made him the number one rushing team without his contribution to our top five rushing team. They're pretty good. I think you pick that option out. Start drafting quarterbacks if you're really not that high on him fine that's fine but you know you start picking guys do you think could take over form. But let him play until there's somebody better because I don't think anybody better on the horizon I think he's taking you keep him. You get some. That's yes no question that the Tyrod quipped that Tyrod issue. Is that the four front still. And we're find out priest pretty quickly now to eleven the eleventh as the deadline. That's what's gonna happen but I three. I think it's and for me it's a no brainer but that may be because I am no brain. So. But that's my. I don't that I agree yeah you know what the argument is that it's it's a decent argument Donald heard me say this. There were the bad guys obviously they're great rushing too much here tirade at a major role to play in that. There are also the 31 ranked passing team in the league last year and saw how much worse could it get and running game sure but well can't find some way to make it when he fits best. My my question is this what would it take to be the 25. Could Tyrod beat 25 if everybody else is healthy. I could be the 25 at five office linemen stay healthy and Sammy Watkins is actually on the field for sixteen games. It. That's my question in and out. I think is legitimate one. I think I don't think Tyrod Taylor's 32 or 31. Best quarterback currently I think he is somewhere between. You know fifteen and twenty and he's being paid like the twentieth. So. Iced I think your I think you better much much better with him than without argument is and again Micky your argument you wanna be great you don't want to December. A decent pass an attacker. A playoff caliber team you want to win championships and make some people might not to do that narrative mullet that may be true. What are you gonna do about it. What's your what's your answer. Karr dale and I like Karr dale and I know that and I've said this to you guys performing the Pittsburgh Steelers won a Super Bowl with a rookie Ben Roethlisberger that to me is identical to what I see in cargo Jones. But you're not gonna ask a brand new coaching staff to go out there and have your entire offense which pain. Be a guy who makes four plays off the page that did your playbook says he's just creates something off. Off the cuff which is what Ben Roethlisberger did that can put Ben Roethlisberger and to use their best option they were forced to play him in the year they went to the super ball. That's the way it came down in Pittsburgh coaching staffs don't want a guy out there who doesn't. Can run the play an X acute. They don't wanna put a guy out there run a play and then break that off if that doesn't happen in just Tennessee which you can do. That's way that's way Pittsburgh did it dead Jerome Bettis to hand the football off which in it to me. A lot like Kevin LeSean McCoy and Mike Gillis Lee and that offensive line they can run in which is what Pittsburgh did they ran and played defense. And Karr dale or Ben Roethlisberger. Made a play. Coach he says to wanna do that coaching and and I get it again that's you know that's what you're going to right now if you don't resigned to. Rod now I don't know why does the coaching staff that's coming and that's saying listen we wanna build from the foundation that we have we wanna build. Sustainable like a playoff roster every single year we won a bill that out. We can take. I guess is that back if you if you pick up the option on tyra you have what eighteen million span. The Internet if you don't pick up yet you have 34 there's something like that. So it gives them a little bit more room to bring more talent and if it's gonna be a guy like Pardo the reason some more yeah. You know some more money in the bank so they can spend on certain guys in brings more talent around rate is that a way to beat him and at this thing. Well it could. And ABC this graphic here the bills are but 44 point one is that and that's with a tire and optional without adequate that's Weller ego and you know he got to look at the market that point formally be eaten up by what three players. Maybe pickings if he structure right if they're the right three richer are gonna get. You're gonna sign which I'll Shawn Jeffrey to a twelve million dollars. And the union. It's hard it's a shopping list just and it's and you're you're on a tight budget and but I still think this is a team this not that far away and peppered even with it with all their issues I think you brought in. Sean McDermott. I'd like to know what he thinks forget about tyra. Yeah. What do you do with that because that's something that you would help plaster it in. I I agree with 80 Mike Gillis is gonna join us we return. The bills put it tender offer Ottoman tender offer to reserve their right Stuart we'll see what he thinks about it when we come back. John Murphy show presented by NAPA Auto Parts on Buffalo Bills bring. We've more John Murphy she. We are back with Steve tasker Jabber B Donald Jones couple minutes after world would make contact with Mike you're mostly just finished his workout we are told he's not here. Eye disease that back home in probably for some more I would think. And tendered and offered by the Buffalo Bills today is the first. Couple levels of free agency began for the Leo well built. Cap restrictions are there Ciba do you expect the bills like they did last year do you expect them to be fairly active in the free agent market through the second tier guys maybe. I think that's an open question because we don't we know so little about Sean McDermott's mindset. He wants to keep it that way he's not talking to us he's not talking to the media in general. And now I think they're doing that. It is and there's no question as part of their plan as part of their their motive opera and modus operandi mean they'd. They wanna keep tight lipped about it and so I think particularly this year. We him have a tracker you can go by he's ever been at this position is played and done in this role as head coach. And he's never been in this relation obviously that would Doug Whaley. And Doug Weight he's never has been in this op in this position in this role with other coaches would never wish on so. It'll be interesting to see and I think that's one of the reasons they're being so stoic one of the good reasons they're being sows so quiet is because they you know they're gonna do their own thing and they're gonna. Not give anybody. An idea. What they're gonna do in free agency with a four Los he's going to be as we start signing guys. You can get an idea of where they're headed very quickly I think it's pretty easy for for us who follow it if they start eagle bunch of mid range guys they're going for specific. Types of either. Mind you know either type of player he the guy is an or. For monetary reasons are going to different direction and have in the past. Hum you mentioned McDermott world trying to get a read and the new head coach we've had him on the show a couple of times now but. We had Bill Polian on the show to come buying last week and I got the quote break here I asked about McDermott and he thinks for reality show McDermott is what bill said. I hate almost to say this because it's unfair to John but in many ways. He's marvel like. The qualities are similar cerebral he's low keys on the money he speaks about things that are important and dismisses things that are not important. He's a very good teacher he stands the gaffe. When things are tough. He's able weather the storm and keep the team focused I actually had to go back and look at what stands the gap means. It is the gap burn gas GA FF while it's like a boat when you stand there and with. You stand and take all the punishment analyst Chris pitched exactly I think it notoriety but. Couple things and you know bill very well you know Marbury well it's our McDermott this one got me again and re reading it. He speaks about things that are important and dismisses things that are now pork that's like shot that it that it's at the previous coach. Not a wrecked a lot of I don't briefing now why I think I don't know that's ness now. Now you know now I think that could cooked. Rex talked about every so well at least not yet but he's put into context not just with the bills and ray he's put in context with all the coaches he's known like Maher and all the guys through the years and he's worked with a time of so he's been around I mean even. Bruce Dehaven him my good friend. Had told me when he was working with bill Parse you know he was in Dallas Bill Parcells is as you know there's a lot of things about mark and bill they think the same things are important. And that's what bill this means it's so I think Bill Polian has atlas they were with Tony Dungy were the tonic guy. So he has the ability to put that in of that knowledge. In context. And that was shot Rex I think it may have been shot coaches like Rex. But not necessarily thing right now let's look at it's not an expert bill to say that about Marv Levy it got our attention what's out bit hard to sit at a much on the right is articulate. What might lets them at the yeah having in this yet I mean that's. Yes that's like. Like compared to hope. Here buckled me going to Baghdad like today the animals from market is coming harvest. The mark superhuman and his ability to win people over. Recently have been telling that story over and over about the first time I was in I was in the meeting rooms a bill mean obvious it was his first game as head coach turned out to be my first game as a player here he got the job Monday and they hired me your pulled me off waivers on Friday night Thursday night. So our first game was here in buffalo together and I was in his that was the first time I was you know part of the team was in that meeting the night before its first game. And we sit down and meeting he gets up there. And starts to speak about the plan why we're doing it how organ and do it. Why things you can do it why he wants you to be able to do it why he's in your corner more you know all this. Comedic genius of communication and motivation comport amount of the guy. You know exactly you know immediately. Guys like that are special and it's not just that they are good speakers. Is their their content it is in enriching their returns so those guys are hard to find and when you get to find a guy like that's what Y guy like Marv Levy at 91 is still revered. Everywhere you go. It was started out your appearance this our Steve talking about last weekend when you're. Your own a grizzly Adams and that's that it a couple of days to get an event is slightly more civilized enough. Easter right not just a couple of days just tonight tonight yeah I'm in a 189 public house economy and seen an event for kids play international and we have some Olympic athletes there paralympic athletes going to be their former Buffalo Bills are going to be there. I know Lou. The cone is going to be there and Jeff Nixon going to be there and I'm in seeing in the event is very quick event sorry it's sold out mercy okay. But as you can play internationalist as really great causes like this it's cleaner is said it's a group that founded by Olympic athlete. Who takes pro athletes in Olympic athletes to Wanda. I went exceptionally tennis Wanda. It's house per now's not want us Rhonda. So they go over there and they bring equipment and mentoring skills in teaching and giving kids chance to interact and have. Minter shipped through sports about given in equipment and mentoring coaches to be enters. So it's a little event that's happening tonight them I'm pretty excited about the fun when exactly do the eco too. They're got on there that June 21 through the thirtieth they have a group of our Olympic athletes going over and there is room for like fifteen volunteers and I actually thought about being one of those moments it is now. I'd love to go over be part of it but it probably working for me this year but I am doing this event tonight and hopefully raise some money. The luck with that thanks thanks for coming out of Islamic religion here next week talks more about that from all about a man on command thickened to free agency next week Steve fixed in this week's. Steve tasker the great bills walloped Famer and analysts and the NFL on CBS joining us in studio got another hour ago to talk with Chris Burke of Sports Illustrated dot com. His impressions of the count mine that just ended in May be a preview of what's coming up in free agency that's coming up for the next hour we hope to have Mike jealously. On the show this next hour he's worked in his work and Susie that with a work out. We'll get him on the show so come back for more another hour ago John Murphy Joseph presented by NAPA Auto Parts from one bills drive this is Buffalo Bill treat.