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Where the NFL is getting busy again stirring and the free agency market the bills announce today that they have. Exercise there exclusive rights by tendering offers to running back Mike Gillis sleep. And guard Ryan bright he honestly tendered it right of first refusal in competition it is original draft around the fifth round trying Roy tendered it right of first refusal what it means. Is that the bills ever exclusive negotiating rights for McGillis sleeper at least a preserve those rights and they can match any offer that Gillis we might get. From another team and Youkilis who were assigned with a the team the bill would get a fifth round draft pick in return for rank right there is no draft pick compensation if he sent for another team in the bills' game. Match any offer he gets not tendered offers today to other restricted free agent for the bills including clinical judgment. Linebacker IK album Polly both of them we'll hit free agency on Thursday. Yesterday the bills made moves above and a couple of special fevers. Ticker at the end governor was released yesterday as was a long snapper garrison Sanborn also released a quarterback biko Roby Coleman tight end Gerald Christian and safety. Phillip Thompson's free agency negotiation period is under way right now the two day period started at noon today. Teams and potential free agents can talk they cannot execute the contract. Until 4 PM on Thursday with a new league year begins but they can't go into contract negotiations with. Agents of players who will be unrestricted free agents and there are moves already around the National Football League the chargers getting busy. They released former first round draft pick offensive lineman DJ Luther. And they also cut former bills wide receiver Stevie Johnson 49ers. Making over there often seek told wide receiver Torrey Smith that he will be released to decide to fight your contract. A couple of years ago Oakland Raiders have told the NFL that they've got a commitment from Bank of America to finance their proposed. New dome stadium in Las Vegas of one point nine billion dollar 65000 seat domed stadium they have put together by their team. With Bank of America and the Buffalo Sabres home against Philadelphia tonight 730 thanks up. At keybank center and that is the sports update from. One bills drive it is John Murphy show. Presented by NAPA Auto Parts that we are comedy alive from one bills drive where free agency is getting underway come by just wrapped up joining us right now. On the subway fresh take out my enemy and who covers the NFL for Sports Illustrated is a Sports Illustrated its lead expert in the NFL draft. Then with that side for about five or six years now happy to have Chris Burke on the subway precede like Christiane Murphy Dow Jones here we thank you very much for joining us we appreciate you coming on. Yeah bigger term and yet it's good to have you back all of us just returned from the com by the other day. I've read some analysts say that all in all it was a pretty good come by Mike kind of a news worthy. Come by do you feel that way Chris. I mean a bottle was an okay want her hug and all that it was Susan. It I mean it didn't necessarily blow me away has I don't know there I mean the Rubin fostered. Incident they're kinda. Would certainly in the usual masked animal. You know there isn't the quarterback and everything in this groups seem pretty well. Coached up I don't think there were any. You know any press conferences they're necessarily blew people away so I thought it was. I thought it was pictures the because of the format was little different this year and the fans were in there watching the bench press and all happening in terms of the thing that actually happened at a couple. I don't know but it was one of the more memorable one of my mind. Does she mean to tell me that. Why record the record break in forty time afford to probably. Absolutely but I think I mean that I get that or Beverly Al that was. That was up there for sure that was pretty amazing and that all carbine. Work out for job Roth was. Was incredible I thought you know there were couple positions about yesterday we saw those secondary guys I mean there's a lot of all ought to be coming into the league this year at key positions so yeah I mean that. And the yet that 42 terms are real. I wanted to Chris if you know you talk about the quarterbacks in because it's such a I guess I would describe it maybe a lackluster quarterback class this year that may be that come buying lacked some of the you know. The sizzle that count might have had in the past you know I mean there wasn't anybody there who. Everybody was intrigued with his first quarter practices. Yeah I think that's that's probably features summit that I mean it's hard still there relieving get a feeling I think at this point we know. Miles gear it probably is going to be the number one pick in. But beyond that it's really hard even in down who's going to be. In the top five in the NC. Still think that they're probably going to be a quarter record queue up there but. I don't know what that necessarily that donut but I wanted to happen in the next you know weaker Q here so. Yeah I think it's really big here it was kind of the show and talked about rob little you know I don't know what there are. Ballot we wanted trying to figure out you know trying to get to know the guys are definitely going to be in that top five because it's still such a scattered class that they get that deep collapse but I don't know about that obvious. You know sort of pop had respect. There is acres I was I was just about to ask you damn well what does that say about this draft class we know the quarterback class is not the strongest. And history. But it seems to be a very deep defense of draft. What does this say when you can't tell who is gonna be drafted after Garrett number and you can't tell anybody else at the vessel what does that say about this class is it. Weak overall it was a strong overall was to say. I don't think it's weak overall army actually thinking especially on defense I think it's very deep defensively you know I think the running back class could be good in. Wide receiver but I think defensively. You know you're talking about mention that the seat he's the cornerback yesterday I think there are. I mean there's probably 45 guys you get sick that are that are worthy goal in the first few days of the trapped at both positions them. So there's a lot of depth there there's a lot of depth up front I mean the challenge is going to be fighting guys. Act quarterback I don't all the classes necessarily as we as we've sort of been led to believe that figure might take a little while for them you. Make an impact I think there's certainly some talent and a top four guys that we. But you know offensive tackle loose. It may be a whole. And there are questions I mean one or format that top ten potential pick your wipers they're running back and he's. Had some injury issues and how we cook did that earlier burger combined. That the wise Corey Davis woke up wide receivers on the air because in her didn't work out because of injuries so. It it is sort of hard to pin down where the offensive balance going to be exactly but I think these sensibly. I mean if you need defense of guys this is a great draft to be in that position. Chris Burke joins us he is the SI dot com lead NFL draft expert he writes for Sports Illustrated. Just couple hours ago you added I guess revised list of the top prospects that each of position. Up on Sports Illustrated dot com on Chris and what I would do wanna talk about we just had about defenders but. Your quarterback rankings you have to John Watson number one was at the way you had a going to become mine and did anything change among your top 45 quarterback prospects it. Based on last week. Now I'm in the top four is that a blocked in than my home Kaiser Krzyzewski met order and that sort of work Adam for. The last little bit now Watson and opera that top spot for awhile are kind of and jockey for position between the homely guys are accused but it moral that's where I've been I mean that'd five is where move that move Greg I have from Miami back up. I don't know I think it's door to really depend. Sort of what a team looking for February try to turn that. More polished pocket passer I think there's some upside in. A couple of the other quarterbacks that are below that top war but. You know I I don't know that anyone. With that goes stop war. You did the first round and I don't think any of them deserve to be in the first round so. Again a kind of pop and be there but. That I think that for me is where it probably gets stated sharp losses the most and it's already of that class and I think it's upside pretty. Chris safety the safety position is the position that the deals would probably look at in this draft. Knowing this the safeties that we have now on the roster. The safeties that are coming out Montserrat and Jamar Adams and to grow Pampers and even will be no upon Wu. Who made a lot of noise yesterday with his work out. Who's going to be the top down ultimately to go. I mean I think at this point it's going to be Adams. He. You know or is there are a lot of the visa have gone. Up five even cup and and and paid off that well but I think certainly he's in the mix and again you're trying to figure out who's gonna be a map. Top five if there is always have a quarterback but obviously which is up other positions so. He's someone I would consider to be in that nick to the top five top thing. Believe hooker from Ohio State probably the other ones. Right up there and a lot of people's minds but you know he's had. He's had some injury issues and so the only other one year starting so we'll see what our own battle without program. I think again you know to match or milk bottle. And Studebaker probably. In the first traumatic. And with peppers that at least five we peppers going to be. But safety which he said he should be and I think it seems pretty obvious Soviet we sort of one of those vibrancy is the point so. Yeah I mean you got 45 CDs for that first grounded. Again I think there's talent there for days to Marcus Williams who you talked is really good player Eddie Jackson Alabama and hurt and with these him but he won he's healthy. He was sort of headed toward route one considerations so there's sort of the ball well look there. They could consider someone around one I think they can get kind of an impact player in round to round three. You didn't eat in a recent Mac directing you have hooker and a link to the bills is. The first round pick Chris. Yeah I did and I think but again I think especially if Adams goes. In that top 567 range. Hookers clearly right now I think that number is spotting baby milk bottle move up I think they still. No the athletic up you know obviously with the root of all Bobble foot. He's at six foresee see what's I know the concerned person not a wealthy because there were. It is not a very good history. Of halt these these we'll see these be able to turn and run when they need to claim coverage especially you know he's probably going to be guys that. You would play down in the box. You can quote from the line of scrimmage so I think he's probably a leader Ralph on pop scene for food baker. You know I think peppers that he's backed up there because of what we saw from him. And you know we talked a talking about the speed of good players coming in and certainly the way the NFL. Sort of trending right now. After often the players spreading the field apartment. More wide receivers in. No proper uses and defensive coordinator Michigan Don Brown talked about how they didn't really have to well we're peppers Obama feel that they just. Move them around from linebacker the quarters CP itself. He kind of fit the mold of what. And I both seemed to be looking at now I don't know he's in the top ten range but I thought portable Donald I think it makes sense to. Chris not to Longo at 1011 years ago on the bills use the eighth overall pick and a safety Donte Whitner and and it wasn't just about winner many people outlets too early you never you never use that kind of a premium pick and a safety. Is that changed in the NFL in recent years and especially with kind of the I don't know that the very nature of how safeties are used. Our teams more at Saudi uses you know top ten pick up a safety these days and they might have been ten. 810 years ago. I mean I think we'll start to see it happen a little more I think the I think there's still more preference if there's a standout cornerback that high that teams who prefer to have that lockdown cornerback and we really haven't seen. Top ten. Safety goal march in the air fairy and it jumped out but that was 2010 so there haven't really been a whole lot of examples. Lately you know given Ramsey was five last year woods. People kind of talked about in the media they beat cornerback yeah obviously pedal and a quarter wrecked so. I think the real key is. If if he's going to be going to commit to. A figure that I need someone that obviously it is sort of a game changer and someone that you can build their defense brown but I think again it is really come back to. Versatility I think if you're going to sign a guy that I need someone and I think Adam certainly fit the bill. That you could do a lot of different things was with a mix and match and you're not just went in one spot on the field hooker. As is more free state the right now he's not great against the run again that remember army experience that he's incredible against the trap and has incredible range and you know grated sort that he. Center field types safety but. Adams is really. But complete package approved talking about a guy and popped and I think again relative to its class actors do not let on out of obviously. Opt and I options beyond. Mild Garrett and some of the guys that are up there like Jonathan Allen you know he has. He is keeping many and they're worried about our brightest and shoulder you down alt and I'll Wear look at Alabama so. Is it faculty and I mean all the guys that might be out and other years. I to have some question marks with them so I think Adam. Within that class is in the top ten talent and Booker might beat you if you if you want that guidance to help you wouldn't need to be. Yeah. Chris I wanted to give back over to the offensive side of the ball and the wide receiver position. We know the top two guys in my Leon's and Cory David spoke didn't run at the Columbine. They're gonna have it they're gonna run it to pro day and then I guess have. Their home little pro day on the zone. Who's that guy who is not. You wanna those guys that could jump up in front of those guys visited John Ross is it they say Jones. That jailing Robinette out of air force has some ideas people aren't really talking about losing data can really jump up front moves to the top two guys. I think it probably raw. You know guys we saw. This. Before you view the ridiculous speeds really good for its size in the red zone. Obviously the Monica beach over the top I think again if you're talking about. Are they trending and often for being faster quicker. Having more of that keep stressing is probably the guys keep it but. Again maybe half the red like you got surgery coming copies of the out for several months so they'd be strapping. Someone ultimate cop and top fifty your range that. You know you're gonna be scrambling to get ready for the regular season as a rookie a little bit. I don't know I mean they Jones is definitely interest the because I think. He's sort of changed the perception a little bit of and then I think before the Senior Bowl maybe you look there is as. A guy that you probably have to play a lot in the lot. And Powell I think he's proven. Over the Senior Bowl and what is the way out of the way he performed with a tough minded if need be. Someone that you should drowning used outside so. I don't know that he's necessarily. In that top fifteen range yet but. It's possible Williams doesn't have a great probate that he is. Jump over me I think it's more is that it's William going to slide back to active I think David. It is in pretty decent shape to pick up Europe and crop the shoulder surgery going to be. Probably top twenty pick at this point given all we talk and so the question is is Williams going to remain at established that that. You know potential watchers see one wide receiver Q in this group we're gonna look a little bit and then. You would talk about you know Jones in raw and you dismiss Shuster for Hewitt the epic would be in that next group them. A guy like her to stand you'll probably wild birds all I'll say because. You sort of similar to what we're seeing from Christian McCaffery and that the really get aperture. Is certainly not a number one wide receiver would want. Game breaking kind of slot hybrid guy. He's he's fit that bill so. Again it is where do you need help what you think you can bet they get manager Alan. On the line with Chris Burke from a Sports Illustrated. He's their lead NFL draft expert also christened. Several other Sports Illustrated writers have teamed up for online look at free agency in predictions for where some of the top name free agents might wind up this year Chris as far as the bills Stephon Gilmore. You have a feeling that he might wind up in the division at the New York Jets right can you talk to us about that. Yeah I mean I think that if he doesn't resign him buffaloes and the bills. You can't keep him out of the jet obviously Evans. And the quarterback in the Darrelle Revis tiny didn't work out the way they wanted to do I think it goes about it but. You know the thing you like about Gilmore is it that easy all the way. Sort of adult man defense and I think that something that the jets have been lacking that's one of the reasons they went outside. Readers in the first place and it's in that system that they try to run. It's kind of like with the guys out there and let them go toe to toe with the receivers in. So if you're gonna. Do that wanna do that I leveled the epic career. Number one cornerback and and they don't have it right now you know I don't know what though. The on the money necessarily to go get a guy like. The prime Gilmore to ensure. He's gonna cash in pretty low here in the next few days but. I think they'll. At least pick up a ball and see where he's that financing. Where does he rank among the free agent corners. What do you think the top three top five is it the top of the list. Yeah I mean I think he's probably. I think he's definitely top five I think he probably is out. Top three at this point hatton and I mean. Logan Ryan right there the way he played down the stretch in the playoff for New England he. Definitely earned his way into Knight deal on major boy is that one that everyone kind of has circled. But opted flat and I think he's interesting because there always is a little bit of maybe has hasn't he at times about time someone who has one season under his belt with a really good player and he was. Or on that depth charted used to go on in the last year and they had a couple injuries that you wound up playing and obviously excelled. Just point five so he looked like these sort of hitting its stride at the right time but. You know Gilmore you're you know little bit more about what's your duties on it for longer so I think he's. He's right up there with those guys and having to be foyer and probably Gilmore Ryan in that. In that second spot and we're trying to figure out the pecking order. Chris he's just threw me an Alley oops moment and I were you while I'd guesstimate that I might throw value to somebody else by a throw back to you. The reds and Alexander. A guy who you know we know him buffalo obviously. You just talked about the one years and hesitancy with teams signing guys to beat feels awful one year Lorenzo had one year obviously and he's also what 33 years old right now so. We're busy and how much Suzy you've paid what are we talking about right now. Well I I think. It is interest in this case does interest me because he beat he great yet the one near twelve mapped back last year something like. Either nine for his career before that. But I think some of that was getting into the right system getting a chance the play and that he I mean I mean he's. It clearly has been to the wind chill himself would be. 34. Perhaps structure on the outside. And so he's trying to pigeonhole them malware mean you have really who do we look fourteen that are. Running that team that have a spot where they use them maybe even just met specialized role body that the rebound guy. But imagine kind of at the big two factors that what's it going to be like outside the buffaloes with them. And how much longer be going to play and you know are we don't feel a lot of guys. Really outside the quarterback position get into their mid thirties and get. Big money deals so. Even given how he played. Last year I I don't think it would be surprising to see him after the play that next he's an idol I don't Warner two year deal that. You know there's no doubt to break the bank because because of that age concern because you wonder I mean he was great last year but again. That's the one year we've seen him as a full time starter really and seeing what he can do. In that as structured also Kenny repeated that he stay healthy for all these I think it's going to be. Did it really. That's one of the more intriguing one good thing because. Just all the factors that play there. It is inching to see what is you know public value. Market. Last question for Chris we are in now the two day negotiating period in the deals can be executed at 4 o'clock on Thursday. Hum I don't wanna ask you who will be The Who will be the first free agent side but. What do you think will be there at the top targets Aminu were the Thursday signing to big splash. First day free agent signing to would you anticipate that might be. Well I mean I think for. For better or worse at this point the conflict the might go on and market moving pretty quickly. And that's another master seeker is gonna spend 1415 million a year. You gotta be pretty sure that you're getting what you think your kid in there might go on and I don't know but I I think given the it the number of teams that are arranged in him in the number in the league quarterback I think we'll be that want to wrap up pretty quickly because the team's been. Moved out on him. Wanna get movie and other back up plan. But I think he'll probably be one of early wants gone. Tony Jefferson at the B and maybe that. I don't know I don't know how much awful willing to spend there but certainly used. Maybe the top guy left now that they are very re sign. And young Q so. I think that they'll have quite the quite a big marker right away and I think you know those are private too big one thing Boyer a again. I don't could go take a long time but there are some other guys like you know doctor hightower I think there will be some back and forth between the patriot. And whichever teams are urged an end Brandon Williams but there could be some back and forth and the reason maybe trying to get back in the air so. But yeah I think we will see him probably before the day is out today I think we'll probably hear. About a couple the bigger means having deal in place that they can officially sign on there then. This delegate to back the Mike Leavitt for a second a couple of hypothetical here if the reports are true and Mike Lannan is gonna make fourteen million and if the bills are prided work out a deal to maybe get it some cap relief in the new deal for Tyrod Taylor. If I'm Tyrod Taylor of the blow outs and got it right if it Michael and gets that I might take a look at the market and become a free agent. And right yeah I could think bill would help with cute I mean Ed. It it. It's sort of a two way street here because on the one hand I think that that overpayment. Based on what we know about one in the and the experience we have I mean haven't started and I am for years now and I don't think necessarily you lose all that good WOK it was starter but he look in the more than a top tier starter up about what in the crap that is important so. Yeah I mean I think it does impact. What happens elsewhere in and Tyrod Taylor I'm sure at keep in China and the flip side of it goes that. If your pain a guy could be a definite starter especially when you're a situation like this for maybe there's been a bidding war for whatever reason I mean. Fourteen million here about what it's done but. Is it pretty far down their for the guys were at the rookie contract with the quarterback position so. You can structure of those who little seems friendly ear like we've seen in the past were you know maybe you don't guaranteeing him much beyond. First two years. I get to not. That outlandish in the recorder act when it but I would say Tyrod Taylor. I would pay him quite a bit more person quicker and I would pay my glut and I'm sure you note that he would be willing to do that. Acres that one last question were you back to decrypt all. The combo line and affected everybody is saying that these draft is so defense that had the does it hurt guys who are in free agency right now the fact that this draft is so defense that has. Yeah I think it probably does I mean at I think it hurts maybe the the second and third tier guys that. You're bringing in could be you know of fourth quarter backer. Nickel safety or something like that they get hurt those guys more because you don't wanna spend. Several million of these and if you can draft someone that younger and cheaper. You know in row 45 and I think there will be some of those guys available so I think that's really get Serbia so thankful fetal big contracts or Gilmore. And Jefferson and Orleans notes you know outside and name. At the defensive backs spot but certainly if it seems third sort of trying to get throughout the cap for those trying to spend money and other positions the draft really dozens this year provided great opportunity to get them. The ball players and their work more cheap at the quarterback and they've distraught and acting contribute. Pretty much right out of the chute so. I think once we see that wave of first guys so it could be 10 off season where. A lot of those cornerbacks and safeties are kind of sit around for. A couple months we don't seeking circle back to until after the draft. Chris thanks for this exercise a lot of times that's in we appreciate you doing that thank you. Yeah thank Chris Burke is Sports Illustrated duck comes lead NFL draft expert writes for Sports Illustrated. Covering the NFL and he's able to speak. About the free agent market as you just in and about the comeback in the draft expert Chris joined us on the subway fresh steak hotline subway eat fresh. This is John Murphy show presented by Napa wanna be in the know get more never know how better pricing by. Sign up for their Neff broke rewards program. Nampa. That auto parts that you title sponsor for the show with Jon Murphy show from one bills drive on Buffalo Bills radio. Welcome back to show John Murphy show presented by NAPA Auto Parts John Murphy and Donald Jones live at one bills drive I'm what's and slightly new Z day Donald with them. Well let's talk about some of the stuff that may be a spokesman attacked me on the phone lines open at 8030550. Year toll free 1888. By fifty to 515 or via Twitter. And Tim Murphy show. Tender offers out there now for my jealousy and right Greg the bills retain their rights to him. Keep those two on the roster. They're restricted free agents of bills that keep their right of first refusal so many of the team wants to sign. Mike Gillis the rank right. Those get a chance to match it and if they do sign away your policy at least the bills get a fifth rounder. In return we talked about that a lot some folks complaining that's not enough that's how valuable jealously is what you think is that enough of a tender offer from Mike Gillis. Tom you know honestly. When I first heard about it it was like I don't know when and he he can still get away you know and ultimately. You have to say to yourself if a team comes in and they offer something. Do we wanna match that to a backup running back. What do we value him as moving forward. Seeding McCoy. Even though he is still wanna bes running backs in the game he is a running back and he will not be able to play the way he plays right now. For much longer it's gonna change is gonna drop off at some point here in the next couple of years so do you see Mike Gillis is a guy who can step in and be that number one running back. The see him as a guy who wins CD does go down. You know you can count on him if if that's your thought process. Then. It's probably not too is not enough because you valued him as a guy who just started moving forward. Your successors to receive him going if you just look at him and say listen he's a good backup running back but he is a backup running back in his fit for a. And yours is just fine that's what I look at and you think he's like an heir apparent to shady McCoy because I don't. There might of these ignorant about guided to but you know running backs get used up quickly and actually they do to use Damaso what's realistically McCoy. 12 years left that you think after that that it would be a ghostly is the feature back the number one Barack. I think it could be. Yet you know widely I don't look at it like that because my I think he's a very good running back and he's not really being used up right now. You know city McCoy gets most of the carries on this team. And if it if it's not CAD is tyra reasonable you know also might do is he's not being used up like that months now. Another two years down the road. How many carries as the have understood at that point that's going to be the question but I think he's a good compliment to senior McCoy afterlife. You have to be Smart about now we we talked and we talked to. Steve tasker about it in and we talked about a listen this is the league we're running backs a comment lose every single year and so do you wanna pay one probably not. And that's probably how every team is gonna look at you know I don't have to pay this running back this type of money especially a guy who's not seeding McCoy. Conspiracy guy who is deep deep back up running that we don't have to pay you millions and millions of dollars we can let you go find somebody else in the draft to be a good compliment but the running back. I'm and that's the that's probably true. But it's just always a gamble when you're talking about Japanese. To gamble sure but. I guess we have an idea and we view give us a little bit differently that you would some folks that say about this or. Or anything else going on around the bills Thomas on Grand Island though Tomas welcome and on the air with us. Hello gentlemen thank you taking my call. Autonomous groups. I I agree with Donald Jones are ridiculously is a keeper. I don't know what the that I knew what. How much you hated people on the team that I hope we ended. They use there are numbers you know projects and so and then expected Kyra. Over the last couple closest Arab spin here the bills it's ranked dead last in the NFL. For cancer tests. And last year they. Use very productive as he. Eight yards per cent this year to strap up here. But. My point the answer regardless who week where actor for orbit if we're not gonna pro football which point. Saw his order eager to talk a little bit out. You up front the mindset or you'll see that she's keeping him at all. We can't we are literally we really don't know the PLO and talk through how would I would say this though I would almost guarantee that the team wants to go from dead last in passing. At least twentieth to like these you know you don't wanna be did last pass and even though you're number one and resting. You need to be a little bit more balance in your attack and so. You know you don't you just don't wanna be dead last in passing so I would think that did they might still be. A run first team but they they want to be able to throw the ball you you need to be able to throw the ball on this week to win games where you especially late in the fourth quarter or especially if the team goes up poignant. You need to be able to pass the ball attract you know you can't just rely on the run the combat and so. There's this new regime's short. Once we get better and that's. Yet an earlier point look I've I'm not treasurer Mike Gillis the I'd see is contributions and I think I disagree with. Both Thomas and you but for thomas' say that ease them. You say a little bit better than projects and I think he senators not to look bad staff project he's fast Jackson was a workhorse back is is Mike Gillis the it's shown any evidence to be in that. At a hundred carries last year he was good in spot duty in and a good feeling for LeSean McCoy but. The boy I think you're release on projects in short if you think Mike you'll see is even close to that that well am I wrong about that now. Naively I mean it's tough to compare I think. He was just saying I guess the type of back miraculously is he's a faster type of projects in this type of running back. It's tough to compare stats because my nose in his absence that he's not playing as much as for taxes though. I think that Thomas was do things that Bassett type of running back the same type of running backs Fred Jackson's Islam with. Now it's a tough comparison for me bill in buffalo welcome bill and that is and rejected the franchise's all time greats regular segment era. What 1415. Twenty games two years if bill in buffalo I build your nearest. Go bill. Buren a year ago. He's gone Jeff in Jamestown Jeff are you there. Yeah I don't care if Garnett Jeff you're on the air. Yeah. My question is about Gibril Pampers. I I really like him I think he's filled. McDermott's defense perfectly because. He can you know. Andy look we really love account mind and it will be grade at punt return and I think we can move down to give them. We either 1718 or nineteen pickup. We pick. I mean yeah you can you can definitely move back I think he's he's hybrid type of seat he's a guy who can play safety he can play corner for you he's more of a safe the he can come down and boxes help you on the run he can help out and your return game as well I don't think he's that game breaker at the NFL level in the return game because. It's not that fast it goes beyond its enemies of 45 guys not the the game breakers speed type of guy but I think he's a guy we can move all around defense and he didn't view. A good person a plug in any business in spectre Karl go to Jason colleague from South Carolina hello Jason welcome here on the Aramis. They are yoga and today. They want to optimum bit of on a bit more about it Oakley. It's weird pick him up okay and what what he thinks our options would be eighty. But he meet. I mean obviously I need to restore a contract Kirk and McCoy yeah yeah. OK so on then why why would we are and what we consider holding onto. Pulled a dynamite jealously. A because he's demonstrated is a good back up I think he's demonstrated he's a good back up and contents can spell shady McCoy just as he did last year. As any show on that. I agree I agree now on the video is. I like I like bill would then probably. I don't late I don't inflate Haiti side armed and there's no way I mean we didn't trigger any crap on me through that situation. With shady you mean. In Macon ticket because associated right now his base salary of six million. Tennessee has The Who and a half million dollar signing bonus. So to that a seventeen he's gonna make six million. Don't know if he'd been to take a pay cut Alamo about that. You know being received the season he just came off of it it'd be tough for him to go to him and say we need to take a pay cut. Yeah Olympics I was number if I were him I would say no thank you for patent you know he cited the steel and I'm pretty productive career. I agree and I guess what I'm concerned they're like you'll realize bomb. It and you know don't don't you know there are other side they're armed with glory. What's up with what contract. When you just lost these it would Roy was so what's what a waste and you want to would still be renegotiated her knocked out everything. Armed. I mean. I. Welker a complete every position on the offensive line and I I said earlier in the show I think. Even if you said listen we're gonna put you in a plug Yuen at the right tackle position I think he could land at the right tackle and be pretty productive I think he's again price. Yeah starter. I think he can while you know that earlier this you know you've missed analysts' view. You viewed right up graces our attack. When you looked at last I mean how much money in the sink into your into your office of that's gonna pay much you know not gonna take us right right so I think Roy can be guy who can step in and and be. Did you some production on the right side of that line especially tyrants it was going to be here I think Roy can do it. Ratcheting Yugo and outside. And trying to pay one of these these top notch free agents paid him a lot of money. Now you have crazy money sunk into one group when your team you know I think this is I think if you have grown a tender you can put him at the right tackle. And he BO pay at the right tackle position expressed its toes or just that on here and I say mommy answers on nobody does it tell you that some in the works that parallel not as out there was something that I don't really great attack. But he's played tackle in the pac lately tack out yeah he's he's able to do come and I think he would be OK at the right tackle position right now you don't have anybody in the who you have cuando who. Look around movement around you're gonna go outside and throws suspension right you gonna go outside and pay top dollar for a tackle or you're gonna gonna draft one. And you're talking about a rookie now at the right tackle position and a young right guard as well. I think that. And that's it you're wrong but I these early to write. It Mario in buffalo go ahead Mario Ramirez. Enemy or that caught on another point would you guys do you mentioning growing. And I think we get the start being that these like the other team elected when he. Seattle's. Steelers though they following you that players. I greatly peace and I had no idea where caper plate people last year and I'm not saying you automatically make starter but a big give look good look at the ticket. Getting. Can handle it in you beat gullible on the cheek early work here. I agree with the Kohler called back. I think it was about exactly and ridiculously. What you look you remind you rejected in the sense that he got into it in the back right upbeat despite the Eagles we will go. Sort of looked and that spread out from behind it and it looked like looked ridiculously you'd expect that I'll read it or restrict the arm is currently being don't want or don't know we've never been right but very slick greens are very good ones are very good to put toward. Shady so. Bring him back copy the bill to directly putting was at ground zero yet. Arctic it is directing it but we had an accident. Our star players. There are high highly bright star players along with these guys that you couldn't find that doctrine of not just players. Barely make Iraq a that are productive. And popping up equal article about. All right I like them are rarely do we think it and let me look I think we all agree. Mike jealously has value here and he's good he's a good back up here and I'm. I'm good with the bad I don't know let's forget about the comparisons with Fred Jackson but. I hope they keep might I do think a fifth round tenders. Probably right about where you wanna be when we talk about all the time about the running back position has been devalued so of Europe another NFL team you're thinking well. We could. Signed Mike OC to a contract and he's you know paying some money more than we pay a rookie. But would also have to give up a fifth round pick what do we find that fifth rounder in the draft or fourth through sixth rounder. Might be able to do for a spike in what might ghostly can do we campaign the you know the rookie wage scale that's a calculation of somebody. Loves Mike feel asleep somebody else one of the of the 31 teams left Mike you'll see that much then go ahead and do that in the bills or get. Some compensation and the right to match I think it's good. 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