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Speech John Murphy show. Presented by auto X. After an organ of the general John Murphy show presented by no go from about one bills drive John Murphy. Donald Jones and wants Buffalo's studio and Friday an idea for a sport ratings ever won built right. Hear from now until 3 o'clock talk about the bills in the NFL and free agency the draft is coming up and while we are approaching this meet the offseason and we're excited about. Right we're really it's coming up right here immediately. The off season best policy objective so right now this is like the most exciting part of offseason when you do mean again. Mean but you know we know what the right filtering it you know so. This is like the most exciting part of the offseason so that's the meat is right now as my body her wants and used to say this rule was crackling with excitement. Overstatement right little instantly but. There's stuff on aggregate talk about it we got a good guest lineup for you today and of course who wanna hear from you coming up today on the show we're stoked to try to reach out to a McGillis late. Whose heavily heavily into his workouts we tried all day yesterday we're gonna try again today. Team we can squeeze him in the show us some time here in the first hour in the noon time hour Gillis of course. Tendered at restricted franchise that tag offer yesterday and we'll see besides your goes somewhere else the bills at least preserve his rights for them so we'll see if that happens. Rich some meaning he's gonna join us at 1 o'clock. He from ESPN nation covers the New York Jets. Rich in meaning one of the most respected writers around the and FL landscape the jets have lost Brandon Marshall they lost and there. Crosstown rivals and we'll talk with rich about that. And also the jets have some big questions a quarterback just like the Buffalo Bills which some annual join us today at 1 o'clock. At 130 different the show better Austro who's the man behind football zebras dot com did you know all of it. Last week at the top by the Indianapolis the competition committee met they've got some issues on the table including a further enforcement of a unsportsmanlike conduct penalties a trying to make sure that. There's not excessive celebration at some talk about. Full time refereeing some adjustments alterations to the yeah. The administration of the replay all of that coming up with a bet I'll struggle join us at 130 today. And guess we're trying to get out last week to come by but he got tied up with the zone work. We're ready try to we are gonna reconnect with Jim Miller eleven years in the league as an NFL quarterback now the posts and series sex and NFL radio move and change show with the packer win. Jim Miller will join us as qualified as anyone to talk about the quarterback landscape. In the National Football League yen up so let's worry that some good guests and your worried about the wind of it and right now though like if don't blow with the way in the studio and we don't know when he out here and OP didn't. In the meantime you're welcome to join his phone lines open NATO 30550s. And number tool free from outside buffalo 1888. By fifty to 550 or you can do it on net Twitter. And John Murphy show we have a fairly simple. Twitter poll out today it's basically a yes no question out today on Twitter but let's hear from you. As far as the bills this free agency opens tomorrow or we're in the Judy negotiating period now for free agency. There are reports of the bills looking around at a couple of players and let leads us to believe that despite there a well chronicled the cap issues despite some of the other question marks they have. Maybe they gonna do some business here in the next week or so it is the eve of free agency free agency opens up tomorrow at 4 PM in the illegal period for teams to negotiate with the agent. On the eve of free agency do you expect the bills to be active in the free agent market that is our Twitter poll 250 votes and so far. More than half you just barely 56% say no. I really don't. 44%. Of you saying yeah you know what they could be and battle I'm beginning to think just like a recent years. I'm beginning to think the bills might be active now looked and activists on Mario Williams and economic big splash I don't think. Because of cap issues but I think they are once again have targeted some players that. That they really are interested in and there are some names that are out there today we'll talk about. And I think now with the limited cap space they have I think the bills might be ready to do some business here you can't. And I think there's definitely ready to do some business now some of the names that we're gonna talk about here. Especially Ricky Ricky Wagner is kind of surprising to me because the reports are is that you know he's gonna blow the lid off the market you know he's gonna get a lot of money. Talking about somewhere. Eight million or north of eight million per season you know and that's not what I expected in the spin on the right tackle position but maybe you know hold my. To say anything about that but this is surprising because you wouldn't think that they would sink that much money into the office of my minority at the rest of the office of mine make a lot of money. And yet they haven't either Donald Wright did tackle. From you know I just a Cyrus on Joseph walk around the building today in a museum you think about. Is that the answer I don't know you know and a sharp throw Anderson is going to be on suspension for well who knows where his future lies. And you know there's been no talk to George mills I mean he's not even considered one of the top ten offensive tackles available as far as him coming back so. I don't know when you when you look at now teams at that were successful last year. This Paris lead through Dallas Cowboys in Oakland Raiders to a dog that's often the lines in football two team that has sunk. A lot of money into the office of mine they really work confident you know and and it worked out for their quarterbacks. It worked out for their running game as well so. If they were to do something like that they need to short there right tackle position and you need to have a very strong offensive and defensive lines obviously that is like. You know the dude the beginning stages of Opel that right Beers that's eternity you have to have. Strong linemen often demand defense and I just didn't expect him to spin that type of money on the rights activist. We'll see and we're talking about. Ricky Wagner let's dive in the him a little bit. The bills reportedly according to a several reports including Michael Lombardi of the ringer the bills are among the teams interested in Ricky Wagner. Right tackle one of the top greeted right tackles in the NFL the last few years by pro football focus. Ricky Wagner a guy who make command some money but UT's. Really considered one of the best offensive lineman on the on the ravens' front lines. How much is the you know how much will the cost to get him here. It remains to be seen. We could it's easier said it could be an average cap hit of us somewhere between eight and eleven million dollars. Depending on how the market is a structured. But dumb the bills are reportedly linked to Ricky Wagner who fits the profile of a guy who is you know connected via. Maybe a Pro Bowl caliber right tackle but a guy you can jump in their start right away and maybe I help out loaded with its offensive line. You know to be honest with you like I said I'm surprised that. They're talking about Ricky Wagner reports of it to Wagner and obviously we don't know how true that is or not. But if he makes that type of money you know and he surprised and anything that happens in free agency in anything that happens over the next couple of days like a guy like. An air woods who is beloved here in buffalo. I would be surprised if something happened with him you know like you have to take a pay cut or we have to let you go type of thing because. You have a guy like Brian gourd grower who you know can get it done and be a lot cheaper. At that senate positions so to don't be surprised if anything I'm not saying that that's gonna happen with woods but just don't be surprised at anything that happens cat casualties. I think you sign because this is that season where things like that that. So that's one name Ricky Wagner linked to the Buffalo Bills Adam chapter ESPN links another name to the Buffalo Bills and this is an interest in free agent. Kyle you're stick of the Baltimore Ravens again another rate. And what's it connects with the ravens well you have to know that there Rick Dennison was there couple years ago would have the majority with Ricky Wagner and count you stick. Dennis of course now the bills' offensive coordinators so. A couple of offensive players free agents from idea. Baltimore Ravens reportedly linked to the bills nothing official on this but. Adam Schechter ESPN reports that bills of the leader the sank how to use checks to area creating country you're checked his interest in for variety recent. At a big year a couple of years ago when Dennison was there with the arrangements where he was involved in a lot of their profits were both receiving running and and pass protection is some is usage there in Baltimore has fallen off. For a couple of years but he's only 25 years old yet five rushing attempts last year did catch 37 passes last year. He's never missed a game in four years for the ravens he's a product of Harvard. I go back to the Senior Bowl when you stick came out. He was a product of the plea to vary but came out in. In the draft two Baltimore Ravens and a member he caught I've seen double four years ago so. Again Adam Shatner league scout used fullback from the Baltimore Ravens to the Buffalo Bills nothing official on that one either. Palm calls to mind a couple of things first of all you know Jerome Felton is via unrestricted free agent it would appear if used check reports are true that the bills that are. Looking to move on from Jerome Felton and what would be a pretty sizable. Salary for him even though he did. He was released last year came back you stick you would think would be somewhat cheaper than Toronto and secondly. The use of the fullback in this offense I think it is interest into. Well I mean when you look at this whole thing first vote to Rome film even though he was released. And brought back at a cheaper salary he is up there needs you know so you're talking about a guy like you stick who is 25 years old he's still he still has a ways ago in this league a few more years of play at fullback. Plus he's a guy who can really test the ball out of the backfield and from which agreed. Coach Rick Dennison likes to be able to throw the ball to. Dole's fullbacks you know play action type stuff through the ball to the fullback so it makes sense to bring him a guy like this I guess it's all gonna come down to the money side things would then when you look at this there's authorised to go to the office from last year they really. They really need. To have a good fullback in there not one of these hybrid expect that the guys you I think they would like to have a solid fullback in the air. A guy who you can give the ball to he can catch the ball out of the backfield but especially help out with CD. In the run game and that's what you tickets. So what do you think on the eve of free agency now a couple of names linked to the bills are ready in this two day period the signing period begins tomorrow at 4 o'clock do you expect the bills. To be active here in free agency that's a wonderful I would vote yes although. A more than happy right now with a 327 votes and vote no you do not expect the bills to be active and don't confuse. Activity with big splash signs and that's and there will be explain I don't think there will be. But I do think based on the last couple years you know last year Lorenz Alexander's background. Robert Plant in some pretty important free agents coming to the Buffalo Bills just last year I think. They want to draft well they wanna get those young. Less expensive drafted players and get them up department I also think when they look the plug holes on the roster the appropriate agency and and selected targets I believe that's what were approaching your with the bills right now. Yeah I think we talked about this in not don't expect to see those be splashed names come off the board to the bills because. Quite frankly I don't know they have the money to make those speaks classes but at the same time. You know coach coach McDermott just doesn't seem like that type of guy you know who was coming here to try to make a splash he wants to make sure he finds the right guys that fit his system. So he can win games that's all he really cares about you know and if you can find those guys at a cheaper price. That's what he's looking to do. And so you would expect that everybody would Kamal that second here you know factories. So it to call 8030550. Or toll free 1888550. To 550 or. Participate and reporter Paul reach out to us via Twitter. At John Murphy show what do you think do you expect the bills to be active in free agency of course with a start that their prevails on Twitter there some people saying that. You know I hop courts courts they won't be. But if Europe maybe a better fanned a smarter and you might think through this look at the bill's recent history in free agency look at the signings they've had in free agency. And maybe not reduce it to just some sort of Internet snarf a couple of tweets on this at a pretty good. Here's one from a Kim race of the active but bargain hunting I think that's the way to go with the morals. I mean to be the opposite to so like the best teams out there go bargain I mean they don't go out there and make debates last names. All the time and on some other teams that are. Either in the plows are right around the playoffs every single year I obviously talked about the patriots but the Packers. The giant to talk about Seattle these these teams. That don't pay the big big money to the guys that you know they they find guys they draft well and they find those second tier free agents and they paid him way. They wanna pay those guys and end up playing well for you know and that's what you wanna do if you wanna be a team that's in the playoffs every single year. Don't make speaks last is because. At that in the today when those guys make that type of money. You don't know what they're gonna give you you know if you just paid me eighty million dollars. Had so you know and in the back Marmara like our I've already gotten paid now announces timing you know obviously I wanted to either play well. But I'm also trying to get hurt I'm also just the nom I'm skating now I've made my money. And ask that this is all about and if people don't understand that when you're talking about these big name free agents. You're you're really kidding yourself because all big for me free agents do that view not all big name freezers do that but. A lot of them do just think about some of the big names where they got paid me just a loss you know in this because. And their minds I just got paid as the day best of football we live in now that's the NFL we live now. You know I think more than likely I would guess what happens more often is that. Teams will target a free agent pay big money and and then bring a player here it becomes one of the highest paid players at this position and then. They can't utilize him to the extent that many fans you know heavy expectations for yet I've taken a Charles clay look Charles plays a pretty good player but he he is. To get in to pry them loose from the dolphins a couple of years ago the bills had overpay. Clearly they overpaid. In order to get any you know big splash creating your gonna wind up over pain sometimes it's worth it. Many times it's not and most times the the players' performance doesn't match today at the big numbers that it takes to get that player on your team right I think that to my mind that happens more often than players. Just sort of a going into a shell entities that looked. Army none of us are happy with the way Mario Williams tenure here in buffalo wander up and certainly they're not happy in Miami about his when you're there. But for awhile and Mario Williams caustic you know fourteen to bring him to the Buffalo Bills. He was a very effective player here was he worth that money no they didn't pay it they wouldn't have a right it's simpler and a free agency but. It wasn't as if he he didn't play when he uses the Buffalo Bills lately hardened their production. I think I don't doubt that happens that. I think it does happen. At the same players it is the same on both players but it's a business that in the today in those guys have just done a it is Scott would ever guaranteed money and that's what they've been trying to get through the entire life you know doesn't rest of the Europe does not denounce any please don't take. I'm not defending anything I'm just saying that it happens it has to happen they don't over time I've talked about it and buffalo I'm I'm I don't thumb around the league it happens players. Once they get paid out I made my money now. You know and I know that at this point. You know you already paid you probably have X amount of money in their money you're not gonna release me the what do you do that to me. That the Welsh yeah players Wear those players I wanna call about anybody anybody up but. Does understand that players know that and because of that yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna go out there and play. But it might not be the same as now you you don't wanna sign bills please you wanna have guys that nightlife is Gerald has gone out there every single day playing hard but you know that's that would guide. Does that come around that often. You know where he's almost forty years old he still gave you that type of production these guys once they get up there needs to try and it is beaten season that's why you have guys that don't wanna commit in you know holding around stuff there like top come after artistic define out comment indicated because I don't wanna from the camp I'm 35 years old estimate talented guys had. Is it different and needs in these players. 8030515. That this early better anytime I don't know if not necessarily a better day and aids but that's just the way it is now 8030550. The number to call toll free from outside buffalo 1888550. To 550. Will the bills be active in free agency not big splash active if you're. Following this at all you realize that they don't have the money to do that Edward appear debating. Whether that's effective treatments that this strategy in the first place but they are linked already with a couple players. 126 point seminars for free to begins one of them one of the better fullbacks in the league Al you've checked. On the Baltimore Ravens in one of them pretty good right tackle from the Baltimore Ravens Ricky Wagner maybe gonna make some moves here 803055. Year toll free 1888550. Even when I say that I also understand that he did so players you gotta pay him. You know and and teams understand that as well especially here in buffalo smaller market. A team that hasn't won us alone to gate Gaza from the buffalo yeah you don't have to pay guys with them on the map overpaid so basses but that's another side of it tested and if so we live in now and so you have to be Smart about it though you have to draft well and you have to find those guys. That are that will give you to do value on the team for the money is to kind. Say this about that that if you got if a guy has a reservation about coming to buffalo because it's a small market and because it's cold. I would think twice about whether I want that guy man roster what I would presented as here's the money it's pretty good money isn't going to be good money. Here's the situation opportunity you have to play here's the fit that we CPU whether it's on offense or defense. Hum here the people you're surrounded with here's a coaching staff you work with. That's not enough for you that you need sunshine you need you don't nightclubs go ahead go to Miami go to Los Angeles that that would be protest. I mean yes the prostitution today but when you think about it from the players perspective. Those are things that I'm not saying that it will hold the effect if you pay me does that money is pulled them on there but it's something that epic. You be more apt to say geez buffalo has trouble make the playoffs I don't know what what's gonna happen that yeah that's that you agree that there are few reasons yet the weather's not. Whether it is that it. Well whether that was the agreement that you talk about both of the lead that comes from the south where it's hot all the top you know so that's umpire can't be in the if something that's going to be in their mind I don't think there is city itself. The smaller market all of the angles into a guy's thinking when you talk about. Golf from Brad in Rochester open it up on the show. They guys are nuts say they should make it go but. Which is DuBois went off well Elop Limbaugh I don't edit injuries. So if you think they were even entertain the thought of bringing him in April what your deal on the cheap being illegal work underneath in the arteries slot receiver now. They sound you're close CBO Steve. I would say don't count on black. You know I can't really put anything out there was no just don't count on Stevie. Even playing much longer. All right so you puts up and others think Stevie is pretty much done for. Health reasons our state Stevie isn't doing his life right now he isn't doing being a San Diego with this family. And so we'll see where goals from there he might make a decision may want to play one more year. But. And how is itself I mean what's is the nature of his it injuries. You know Stevie obviously has had a growing Diaz of back issues. You know he's had a lot of different surgeries ultimately a and it's all being calls because. You know it's back and so it's just something that now. That's what he has to deal with on an everyday basis and then you know he has kids now who are getting older and he wants to spend a lot of time with gifted him with his wife and so. You know he's making decisions based upon its Ambien not just in one place so it don't look for Stevie here or anywhere as a kind of what you sing. Yes. Jim you have problems and that is being knocked. Now I wouldn't now he might. I don't know I haven't talked a moment in a couple of weeks but you know he might make a decision this in he might say listen I wanna play one more year. It will be very hard to get his wife. To leave San Diego and bring in tire damage that the buffalo you know they just bought a home in San Diego that is tough thing to do. Okay 8030550. The number toll free 1888550. To 550 your thoughts on the bills on the eve of free agency they got to be active. Look we're not saying they're gonna signed you know ouch on Jeffrey but. It appears certainly to a couple of players are ready it appears they're gonna do some things here they've done it in the past last year Lorenzo Alexander. Zach brown Robert Plant and all signed in free agency. A couple of years ago was when Charles clay came on Tyrod Taylor. Came by free agency and memory serves eggs a week or two after free agency opens so they have been active in free agency over the last few years they have gotten players starters in free agency the last few years. I mean that's the modus operandi of the GM Doug Whaley and his personnel department. Yes they have cap constraints this year they pretty every team has kept in streets every year. Yes they have a major quarterback question and answer we expect an answer the next couple of days but. I think it appears based on the early evidence that they are an activist and Patton just. You know stay with what they have in free agency tell us what you think about that. 8030550. Tool free 1888. By fifty to 550 Eric strip tweeted. A fortunately no question will the bills being active airstrip tweets and a fortunately active in losing players gathered gonna lose some here. You know and look at the listeners want to or you're gonna Eric strip we got a wide about if they lose Reggie Bush games ahead of all. I get 22 unrestricted free agents. Or the impact Wednesday that it got to lose Gilmore. But the money's getting crazy with Stephon Gilmore he's already been linked to very strongly linked to the Chicago Bears. Com. I don't know do you wanna pay him fourteen million a year. A Jordan mills a starter there's no buzz about Jordan mills gone anywhere including coming back to buffalo Zach brown. You know it's gonna get some money Lorenzo Alexander gonna get some money. Robert Woods who is it seems to me his stock is almost dropped in this crazy. Free agent run a period down when you look at the receiving corps in a woods is now on the lists I've seen most people consider him. Maybe on the verge of a top ten available free agent so to go get paid but he my connected paid what many. Thought it would double the day he might get something like success. And that might be something the bills and do you know to bring Robert Woods back he is a solid number two receivers so. But it does seem like his stock has dropped over the you know the last week. But you look at all of the all of the list that are out there rapper would just like you sit right on the verge of that top ten in receivers. Yeah I haven't really heard anything about him being linked to any teams so we'll see. I'm mark he's good when on the list of bills twenty to his name's been linked are ready to to Washington is a potential free agent destination and look. These are all these reports are there is nothing to a noting gonna sign until. 4 o'clock tomorrow but it is the the two day negotiation period that we're in right now but yet they're gonna lose some players no question they're gonna lose some place or move. But every team those players I mean it's not just the bills this seems like the bills only moves players every year. Every team those players because players wanna get paid players are going to lead they're gonna test the market. And it's a team pays you. I'm going to give pay I mean Estes what players think especially if you're a guy who wasn't a first round pick even if your first round pick. Now since the new CBA. You know you want to go get that second contact Ed B contract. It's something that you regret down the line may be maybe not but every team deals with players and every team moves this top players. Do you expect the bills to be active couple more tweets on this event tweets and I expect him to be active in the lower teeters of free agents to help the transition to McDermott's. Defense. And it's as creatures offensively he means denizens offense no big money yes I think that some. I think it's kind of what they're looking at here. A couple of tweets and these are too good with super goats is yes expecting we have some contract restructures that's important. Yet I mean the numbers on spot track as of today 24 million in cap space. There it they'd you know. Are talking the players you would anticipate it. But it worked out a little more squeeze out a little more cap space they can get there is a top 51 in under the cap so that's gonna change the numbers are gonna change for that. Cap space and all these teams have an here's an interesting tweet from Bob to inject. He says I think Doug and the guys will find some low priced jams like they often do that's his greatest strength is GM but that's one of the strengths I think you're right about that they. They know what they want when they get into free agency and they target guys and and try not to overpay if they can you know that's the best. What you need to be good that you know you need to be good at finding those jams and that's not his free agency that that's in the draft as well finding undrafted free agents that go on needed help ya a special teams or can become a starter at some point in his career. If you can do that that's like signs of a good GM the good scouting department did. So it's probably got lines open in 0305 figure tool free 1888550. To 5:54 o'clock tomorrow. Free agency begins the bills linked with a couple players are ready do you think they're gonna be active here. And if so what would you like to see him do give us a call let us know what you think you can participate on Twitter at John repeat show. And let's talk more about this were back aboard a moment John Murphy show presented by NAPA Auto Parts were just getting underway from. One bills drive in this is Buffalo Bills radio. John Murphy show presented by NAPA Auto Parts. The Oakland Apple Store and App Store online at Napa online now. John Murphy Dow Jones from our one buffalo studio the wind. Is Holland outside Donald you can hear another appear. That is if they say there. Yet do we had the beautiful hardwood floors and great furniture in the studio here at. And I hope nothing gets damaged in your because. If the wind damage. And they noted that I walls I think yeah interpreted. To be right. Our hat bro. The pro sports. Field house. Right eight we're talking about the bills do you expect him to be active in free agency but give us a call you can the boat and our Twitter poll. Thirteen tweets and we have to be somewhat active we wouldn't be doing the team justice we are not active. Even New England doesn't stay the same Chris tweets and free agencies a game of chess but see how good of a chess player McDermott it is not yet the point. It's not just experimented. You know with everybody is the scouting department all of that stuff because those ones those guys are ones that are out there all year looking at these. These guys that are gonna become free agents. And they come back and say listen we need these are the guys that can be like those engines. Who previous start on our team more key special teams guy and they end up. Backgrounds in Libya and Alexander's. And yet I often think to that and as a caller John from Maryland we're gonna punch appearance at Yemeni air. A lot of it is circumstance those guys you know Zach brown Lawrence or Alexander circumstance dictated that they play in what he you know they play well it's almost this is where I think. Well like draft is important too but. It's important that there is of match in a meeting of the minds between the coaching staff and the scouting staff like these this is our need and it's neck it just me or in any linebacker now. We need this kind of a linebacker right you you got to spell it out coaching staff we need. This kind of linebackers can do this do this do this that's important because that we need this sort of right tackle. I need a fullback who can do this in this in this all the guys are the moments that's fine you auditing you have to have a almost. And it's tough to do so with a new coaching staff for everything here but I got to have a good match between the personal side and the coaching side to identify. And articulate exactly what you're looking for and and at that might be the secret to success when you're dealing in free agency that's. Truth menus you have to have a good and that's I just trees you see that's the draft as well you have to have a good mass you have to understand. What it is that you won your system what type of guy. Fits my system what type of fullback it's my system without the receiver fits my system I like to have a tall receiver Ike to have a short. Fast receiver quick receiver work in the middle but talk out and get down the field who can also be help out in the red zone I mean that's what you're talking about on the defense aside. We like to run a cover two so we don't have to spin this type of money on the corner position you know and that's that's what happens. When you have a coach's staff and GM and everybody who's. In place for a long period of time. Then you can together say listen these are the types of guys that we wanna go after. Every year free agency every year in the draft and you can have the guys everything a year that beat yours skiing and you don't have to go out crazy over pay form because. You can end up being like it seems like the patriots and everybody likes to talk about. They value guys at this if you wanna get outside this box this is what we value a middle linebacker. You wanna go out there are tested to see if you can get paid that type of money thing go ahead we'll find somebody else who can play the we're not going to be the ones overpay. And in this way out is get jealous and use a sort of become mine last week. You know at a film ever retake the shot of like Ozzie Newsome sit there and with Harbaugh and his coach were. You know the patriots are obviously there are the Steelers and the groups that have been around so long. They know exactly what they need they write programs and we haven't had that here for a variety reasons we have an edit consistent. Winning program but a program work. The coaching staff and the scouting staff know exactly. You know what they're talking about speaking the same language you really need that here's a call I believe on this issue from Sean and Merrill Lynch on welcome to the show. Hey how's it going guys do it but thank thanks they are all big time. Bills abandoned. You've got doubles about every day on. Death. You know I think. You know organization. Let me if you could not evaluate ballot if you have a problem in that area. And then it just gonna have a ripple effect on your organization. That week with the bait. You know all all in game you gotta be it would evaluate. You know players is it is it. It beat back good boy that that it. You don't end. You know you gotta you know you got to come up and say okay. You know like or where that light. Alexander. Mom you know it it goes somewhere outlook yep thank you don't duck as it was awful. You know I don't know is it that this stuff is that Rex Ryan. You know wailed away indeed that. You know all of you know cause them to get so much production you know I I'll Alexander horror. You know boy it beat it beat at really egged it. I don't know what the answer is today at random you know it's. I mean obviously players' talent has a lot to do that but and I think you're spot on charm when you talk about the right fit in them. When you're changing coaching staffs every two years it's impossible that I think to find the right fit because that. The system changes the program changes the schemes change every other year you can't. You can't expect to find the image these bills have players on this list of 22 free agents that's many of whom will be gone. The somebody's players just don't fit in what they're gonna do here you know I'm thinking about. Guys like Lee. Good players good service for the bills last year maybe that spot firmly in the upcoming. Defense because they don't have. It on the right fit here I mean you just. Look at that and 12014. When they had the number one defense or top three defense and this week. And then Rex Ryan comes and they were ram and a 43 at that point Rex Ryan comes in and says you know are run through four I like the with a lot of like they did pressure on quarterback. Totally has to change everything you have to change the guys that you bringing in here. And now he's not here anymore you have coach McDermott goes back to a 43 scheme. An idea to get the guys that if that's right so this is what we're talking about win. You keep changing coaches you keep changing everything at the top it's a ripple you know it's a ripple effect down to the bottom because. You never have a chance to have the right guys and point your team right guys that this system. This is why you need to have a coach here for a long period. 8030550. Toll free 1888550. To fight fiftieth call here from Erica East Amherst. Where. I had that I would now. I'm not that Brothers are you guys. I'm death while I'm out of yeah. Is well or the current spell out what might. Problem related. Yeah. Yeah. And and about twenty million. To a spin off my question however you orbital boom. If you can run a couple of records of these guys are out of the city million probably won't he. Do you have a great man roster. It would only have twenty million you can actually money want you know. Brooke is probably on this I regret that. Yeah it was horrible. You have to. Right now is what's going four point one million that they have and you have to just understand that. Their decisions at a coming down the pipe in the next couple days right so starting with the Tyrod Taylor. Let's start with any other veteran on this roster who's making a lot of money who's going to be a be tapped it in a EC teams around the league is either tap has to you to cut. Or you see guys take a pay cut because they don't wanna get cut. So you know don't look at the number right now. Look at it a couple of weeks from now ignore or a couple of days from now did this should be a little bit more money for the in the platelet. Yeah it's a fluid thing it's 24 million today but and it he would likely to be something else tomorrow right. And thank you the truth and probably a more moves to make renegotiation perhaps with some of the players on the roster releases of some of the players on the roster. Of course the the big one is Tyrod Taylor today. The picked up that option to date a new coach at that number down and and maybe squeeze a little more cap space or to the part ways with them all together and and squeeze out a lot more cap space so it's a fluid number of fluid thing via the cap number it you know point 49 doesn't look like much. And there are ways to structure deals to bring in players that. Whether it's the guys mentioned today count use checked the fullback or Europe or Ricky Wagner the office of Limon there's a million of ways to structure deals to to make it looked and make it fit. And new where your cap space is with them that's a fluid thing it's it's a moving target. Walter calling from Rochester hello Walter weapon militia. Are you there Walter. We lost Walter. Where is Walter you know where is Waldo. I was thinking about this is an Arab traders Twitter question deals with free agency do you expect the bills to be active and you know if you look at recent history. They've been pretty active again you know go back to 2000. Actually elected three years ago now and Corey Graham was a free agent signing right didn't break the bank. Pretty good player been a starter corner and a good specialty early in the the starter at safety. During his buffalo tenure that to me is a good successful free agent signing Corey Graham who's been around here for the last three years a veteran guy. Did you ever eat up atomic cap space as a Evans at dugway elite free agent acquisition that's again out the kind of player on thing didn't you know might be on the rate and now's. You can Corey Graham he's. Going to be a five million dollar tested this year you know so he could be a guy who they say listen. We need to restarted this so that we can make this more team for an you'd take a pay cut. Or did cut and NASA is what we're talking about you find guys. And you find these students Jim's out there not that it engines what do you find these guys that you don't have to over overpay. But at some point. Just the way that these contacts are worded as some point they're going to be comic captain attack has you know McGee cut in a system league network and so. Best I think best. What they need to do they need to go out there find he's second tier there it's here free agents. Find guys that you don't have to Cree yeah it's been crazy crazy amounts of money. Bring them in here. And they'll end up being starters and a being ball is where you hope lead to take you to the playoffs and on to the promised land is suitable. I just out of Sweden and needed to alertness sent them. You know engines don't win you some troubles aren't the only ones who rules are there at. There on the patriots and who we all know that the patriots obviously have Tom Brady which is why they can do whatever they wanna do and find those engines out there. They com. Tom Brady is the one that use these winning games for them. The bills haven't had a chance to find that quarterback. And there are a lot of teams in the league to have an ad says the fun at quarterback. But until you do that you have to bring other talent on the team. Right and so you go out there and you find these engines out there and now end up being ball is like I say they'll end up making your defense a lot better until you find that convert. I mean only the patriots are were limited it was would answer troubles that's pretty limited group. You know and it's pretty limited group that includes mostly agree quarterbacks work in on the case of the Broncos. Great defense is Rocco seems to me work. Bloated up with a pretty healthy dose of pre split will the bills being active in free agency we don't mean free and a mean big splash. You know headline grabbing free agent signings but will they be out there signing players. Link to a couple of players today we'll talk more about this when we come back after the break we'd love to hear commute the fault lines open it 030. 550 tool free 1888. By fifty to 550 Donald and tiger live from one bills drive the number of these jumpers that by NAPA Auto Parts. Buffalo Bills read. That John Murphy she. Welcome back to show jumper beat Donald to all for coming alive from one bills drive on the eve of free agency. How active with the bills we that's the question if Richard thoughts on them bullets over an 8030550. Toll free 1888552. By fifty. The seller campus fluid we talked about that the market is fluid to moves are fluid infect a couple of reports just within the last couple of minutes. About a guy who had been linked to the bills reportedly as a another home Ian Rapoport atom chapter now linking Ricky Wagner the Baltimore Ravens. Offensive tackle to the Detroit Lions in fact. In Rappaport says the lines at Wagner agreed. In principle on a new contracts were said it will eclipse nine million dollars per year setting a new market. Soul looks like Ricky Wagner is off the table however Altman however brief it was he was on the table at for the Buffalo Bills. I guess yet this is what this what is going to be like and I haven't nine million a poem. A new market for a right back against a decent rate tackle. What I think we've. I guess when they look at me look at their quarterback come. Obviously he can get outside the pocket book they feel like they need assurance that right tackle position and protect him on the left and the right side. And so they and a payment type of money you know setting a new market right tackles are usually not look at as like. You know let tackle this is positioning its page but in this day and age men with these teams that have ruled ball games. T they had defense event that can rust off of both sides you have to have a left and right tackle and that's why he talked about here we need to show up at right tackle position. Just for you know when Rappaport says that any new market just fired up spot record but he. Much in any you know Orchard Park and not only do they look at contracts they also have market value establish their best guesstimate. Estimate really am what the market value for a guy might be. Given the current market they had Ricky Wagner. Average and annual salary at six point nine million. Now he comes in again this is all speculative you know early speculative becomes it and nine million that's how much the market. It's changing right tackles and for comparison sake laying Johnson highest paid I believe eyes paid right tackle now attack the averages eleven point two million. The year okay that's out of whack a bright blogger who was video freeagent I believe just a year ago right Bryan Bulaga it's averages six point seven million. Mitchell Schwartz big free agents I mean by what Denver last year. Six point six million a year. Ryan trader six point three million. And here if nine million is right for a Ricky Wagner that's incredible but again them them you know. We want a bit off the bat at that price you know and and an enemy that nearly happened with the traded Ricky Wagner today. We talked a joke or a couple weeks ago and asked them listen how many times. You as an agent how many times do you. Going with the number where you feel like the market news yet on what that number and a team comes back and blows you out of the war he said it happens might. Quite often you know and so something like this happen and doesn't surprise me man that day is teams seeded guy. That they want and they really want that guy they are going to spend the money to make sure that they can block that guy yeah. So it's just a report but it pretty credible report from Ian Rapoport and and from and show after that Ricky Wagner is as a deal in place with the Detroit Lions and Rappaport says it will average out to be about. Nine million per year when the spot track estimated market value was a six point nine million a year. It's crazy yeah and but yeah that's why you know you can have your I had these guys but when the market is set like that you have to recalibrate. His recovery she. Now all around them and that's right tackle I mean that's not even the last tackle position that we're talking about so just imagine what you need here in buffalo with the receivers. And you know while linebacker weak side linebacker fast guy. Corners they I mean you're talking about having to pay you really pay for top guy has everything that's why we keep sand like dole look for those big names because. You're gonna have to really really paid for those big names in the bills situation right now homo they have the money to give. The Ricky lagged their nine million dollars a year just off from royal Lancaster all right you're on the year. Now I wouldn't wondering how long would be the possibility of trading McCoy analysts say only kept that is. Could you get a receiver Koerner bit that they keep something else the bills need or possibly maybe like a third a fifth round draft choice from anybody. Listen I wouldn't Roy I would not count on that the new head coach I don't think that he. He wants to it straightaway and guess the best part of this offense right now in his first season I just don't expect that to happen. Stadium course still is one of the best running backs in this game I just don't see them trading him away can you get good value for that. Yeah you could but you know you talk about they knew they wanted to best running backs. In the league right now and your first year as a coats and you need to have the stable of your offense. It is seed. Being coach McDermott just said last week it come by and indeed it McCoy was big part of what. But that says you know I mean what they wouldn't want to do I mean it is. I don't expect an app. Tweet from Christmas is Utley McDermott Whaley company will use methodical approach. We come together and make some solid free agent moves yes I do too and and I could get everybody they what if in fact they were interested in Ricky Wagner as was reported. They probably weren't instant Ricky Wagner at nine million dollars a year is being reported now right right. That'll be ignorant just that number you know especially with the numbers that you have across the often the minority. You're ready it's been another nine. At the right that business will be two months aren't gonna take a break we got a lot more to come on the show including Ritson meanie from. ESPN and a foundation in New York covers the jets and we'll get his thoughts on what to jets' new quarterback on the loss of Brandon Marshall and a whole lot more so come back for that. Or one hour doubt you'd go to John Murphy show presented by NAPA Auto Parts. We're live at one bills drive this is Buffalo Bills tree.