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Update from one bills drive where free agency loans that starts at 4 PM tomorrow we are in the middle of the two day negotiation period before. Unrestricted free agents can begin to sign in rumors abound all over the NFL. The bills have been linked with Baltimore Ravens fullback out years check the Harvard product is played the last four years with the ravens. Despite rushing attempts last year but you're sick I'm 37 passes and saw a lot of the field in the ravens' offense Adam Schechter says the Buffalo Bills have emerged as the leader. This on used to go when pre he opens later this week the bills also had been linked earlier too offensive tackle Ricky Wagner the Baltimore Ravens but. Both chapter in other reports say that there Wagner has reportedly agreed to terms with the Detroit Lions Ian Rapoport says it's a nine million dollar average per year. Or Ricky Wagner so he may be lost. To the Buffalo Bills. Brandon Marshall who was released earlier by the New York chances landed across Downey now with a New York Giants agreed to terms on a two year deal he'll team with Odom back in junior. And sterling Shepperd of Foreman great wide receiving corps. For the New York Giants the jets a seven and a half million dollars against their act by releasing them Brandon Marshall as well he asked to have happen. Elsewhere around the league quarterback talked Josh McCown on the former browns quarterback is scheduled to visit with via. Dallas Cowboys cowboys won richer McCown is healthy and ready to play before they offer him a contract. And former bears and Texans quarterback Brian Hoyer as reportedly attracted interest from New York Jets. And the San Francisco 49ers Vernon Davis talented tight end has had a three year deal to stay. With the Washington Redskins. And the rams reportedly listening to pre proposals for quarterback remained Johnson all of that. Is free agency starts at 4 PM tomorrow. Sabres lost to the flyers last night 63 they play. At Columbus on them Friday five of the next six games are on the road for the Buffalo Sabres Jack cycle in and all three goals for buffalo last night. Michael has extended the longest active point streak in the NHL now. 211 games and that is sports update. From one built right John Murphy Dow Jones were all abuzz with calm free agency down everybody's talking about it the rumored throughout all we can do is. This pass on what we hear what we've seen in. The U checked everything is in pristine Ricky Wagner appeared to be adjusting and other reports are that. He's ready to sign with a Detroit Lions there will be mornings out there Hampshire over the next 24 to 28 hours about players have bills or interest and and players the bills. May be linked to and we'll just this is right the way your buses right the hottest season for him if nominated. I'm calling Adams after an ounce then listen these are two teams that a link them up player. And the bills will come up in that because maybe that agencies had a chance to speak to the bills and those say yeah that sounds like you know so that we we like this guy. And and you end up getting the links that come out the rumors and then you know we have to report we don't have do well we do sit here and a better cook. Let's call Walter on the line Walter retried early are you they're now Walter. Aria good. What's on your mind today you'll. To negotiate. Hillary don't crawl because I am big buffalo fans who have been watching a bird and he's good twenty years you okay. And I yell. I think our defense is all right in all though look at the last four or five years we've been open that have happened and I inclusion blew the top half. But we're not getting enough wins. We're never gonna make the playoffs. So. While these views are all going to be the Asia. I've heard that you'd be optional and that is what I've noticed. That the league has changed it all. We're all done it got to have a good often. Shall we just concentrate. Doing up in. Bad guys until I take it up actually quarterback. Just without actually quarterback. I have to say they will not make I can guarantee you there. The quarterback and they split with Iraq they will not make the playoffs so he's gone. I'll keep separate incident two communities it's been Stefan noticing depend opinion but I have to respectfully disagree with you Walter you look at the team that won the super bull they had the number one's going defense and you know so. And they add add that set down. The Atlanta Falcons in the second half and game so you know you look over the last couple of teams that won a Super Bowl this past year well this year with the patriots. Last year with the Denver Broncos the year before that was what Seattle. All have very good defense was on the patriot the year before that was Seattle all had good defense so I mean. The defense is what wins in suitable. Office to score you points. And then when you some games with defense is what went so well here from Kyoto in West Palm Beach Tokyo welcome in the year. Hey hey we'll go 10 god go adopt them. Well let me tell you got into my work day everything would date a guy. Humans are concerned is the vehicle pileup bailout ballot that would support our old personally he's not going to be great you wouldn't get hot spot patterns that we. But you've got enough to get a win. All a lot of you wanna go back what about it they blamed and bite him and they say that the defense Cali. Not you personally I could be about five game where sport but they wouldn't let up on the spot that openly gay. We where I have added that was great. And didn't let that one of the worst combat happened like a scene here. You know you talk about what game some evidence not what what. It makes it different names like that would play real well what a quarterback. But people think we can't look what it. I want to get a respectable and act it's as though it could be that carried him. I'm not let's call now all noted is that nobody would watch this team argued it. The buffalo defense carried tyra to the defense was colossal disappointment for the last two years if it was it was bad flu lasts the last. What two years yeah. There's defense especially this year and I was actually here Watson and there was bat and a lot of different games. The defense was the reason why for me. The offense was atop him. Scoring often all right you have the number one rushing game you could have at least made it to play out that you had even defense decent defense. Not the defense that's thirty well it will be. On Lieberman nineties was right nineteenth I mean. You had. The same running back over 200 yards twice you had another running back over to ninety yards and made him bill. And in you had to back in the defense that was you know bombs over Baghdad so. Stuff so it's. A we were talking about that way back in camp the and they were saying. Those night practices they level because they last that is the -- Google bombs over Baghdad but hey vessel with happened in all year. It was bombs over Baghdad at least in the first half years so. You know the defense needs to be shored up the defense did not carry this office it did not carry Tyrod Taylor now you need parents it would be better in the passing game yet. But the defense needs to be soda. Quarterback questions for the Buffalo Bills quarterback questions in a lot of NFL outposts including the New York Jets and joining us right now on the subway critique not mine Amanda is cover the jets for decades he's the NFL nation writer for ESPN covering the New York Jets. At every Sammy is Ian staff writer on the subway fresh take I enriched on European Dow Jones thanks very much for joining us here today. Is it true I mean you'd get the sense that the jets. Football department has that I have Tyrod Taylor and what happens here in buffalo with him. Yes I do think they're keeping an eye on that situation. Aren't the jets are as you alluded to they're they're trying to desperate at quarterback the only two guys they have a contract. Are right steady who has all the four career starts. And Christian Achtenberg who has yet to step foot on the field so. Today I think it every veteran quarterback with a pulse right now who's who of who who is available or could be available. Is on the generator. Now you know I'll think it's just quarterbacks in the U guys basically go to the entire rosters so that they every veteran out there with the polls. If the need to be deeper than. Is exactly. They need they need a lot of way you can get it done. It warned freeagent cycle or one draft is gonna it's gonna take multiple years as a jet serve basically. I'm not saying they're going to be to Cleveland Browns have last year you know where you basically tanking yet but they're going to be close. Rich how does that get in this predicament with quarterbacks in particular for the New York Jets what what happened yet. Well a guy named Joseph being a retired about forty I know that they're really and they really haven't found one sense. You know they've had. A few good guys along the way it would never of that you know quote unquote free trade order Beck you know to Chip Kelly. Type guy who you know. You can identify with. As you're that your guy with your team in your city. And you know they've been played in the band aid do for the last you know right it's actually had a wonderful year two years ago. You know right up until the fourth quarter of the Bill Gates that in the in the today LE. And that it all came apart and related never recovered last year I had a terrible year you know it's true and it. Teddy who is not ready and that it getting hurt so it's just been bad drafting. They had free agent pick ups. Bad trade bad everything at quarterback. How foreseeable wasn't firm Mike we Cagney and if not you know for Todd Bolton. And Chan Gailey but for Mike McKay again was the collapse of Ryan Fitzpatrick foreseeable and is that something that you know on the canyon like gets it has to answer for at the state. Well. I do think. They thought his is that consistencies it was a bit of an aberration in a part of the way it is 31 passed out at the Citic careers that are franchise record it was best year career. So the jets were look at edit like looked. You know you don't play ten years in the league all of a sudden you that year you get good. So and that's why I think the negotiations took so long with Ryan it was a six point negotiation because the jets new. That that year was an aberration I don't think it jets expected him to duplicate that you. But at the same time they didn't expect to go in the tank like he did last year so. I think they'll keep you would fall somewhere in between. That's why they were reluctant to hand over the big money. And in retrospect you know they'd be made the right decision on that it. Now they're left here with. Would really not think that we need to Gina Smith you know he's a free agent. So I doubt he would back so there really is and a very difficult situation. And add one more question on how I guess I'm trying to throughout the jets got here there's a body of opinion that you are not live here in buffalo reached that. The teams meet you needed if you don't hit your franchise quarterback you should draft one. Every year the jets have essentially done that the last couple years breaks patty in the fourth Christian hack Hamburg in the second. What is seen the fact that that strategy may be doesn't work if your always gonna director Korda record what you take them. Yet you keeping count if you don't spit it out there yet sector rounder. In 2013. So they've been in the last we're drafted they've invested to choose. In or at quarterback. And they've missed on all of them I am of the belief I don't think October will be. A winning starter in the league betting that we pick and I know the guy hasn't played so it's hard to warm. An evaluation of cold by you guys help me and it would it would get out LB. But it's yeah I mean it's the Ron Wolf school. Building a team beat you know audio felt when he was with the Packers that you take quarterback. Even though he had brick apartment that's tiny chip draft since quarterbacks. And I would I mean I don't I think it might draft another one this year I mean I don't I don't think they'd do it at six. With this fixed stick but it base somehow get another first round pick or maybe the sector where they active he would do that again. Now when you look at topples and his future does even make it past the midway point in the season is he safe this season. You know what what are we talking about it topples. Well it definitely on hot seat let's be honest for two straight years they'll play despite an eleven last year but. I mean I don't it's not woody Johnson and vote to fire coach in the middle of the year. I I just say something extraordinarily. Bad would have to happen. Lake and talk and like get off the field stating murders something good for him to change coaches in the middle a year. I just don't see it. They're they're really don't have a guy counters there now would even be so. They get a logical replacement so. Yet the cut here cripples you gonna have this shot I think he's got to make the playoffs but he's gonna have to show some definite improvement from last year. Two to keep this gig don't further here. On the subway fresh take and with rich in meaning ESP NFL nation jets reporter covering the New York Jets soul. With all the moves they made over the last couple weeks in the big contracts that. Jets have said goodbye to what is their approach going into this round of free agency starting tomorrow is it. All about the court of record they have some other moves to make an and a desire to make some. Free agent moves here rich. Well they can get about 33 million dollars in cap room which is about in the middle of the leak. So they they can do a couple of Connecticut lectured too they weren't. I really don't think they will go extinct they're really determined to build this draft. Protected in his two off seasons has really need only one. Blockbuster freeagent movement that was starting Darrelle Revis which in retrospect it was it was a disaster been given 39 million guaranteed. And they got one year out of this past year he was terrible also. I don't think they're gonna make any of those kind of moves already you don't see them involve. You know as badly as they need a quarterback I have not heard them. And in the mix with Stephon Gilmore or AJ foyer. Or Logan Ryan's so there's the three top corners out there in the jet. From what I've been told really are interest it's so I think they'll they'll pretty much looks for mid level type guys you know her lesser value. And try to plug some holes there and and and it relies draft for the rest. Now how tough was it. So you guys to see Brandon Marshall leaving go across town to the giants. Well I mean selflessly I mean he's he was a good. Back for the media because he he was very quotable. So if you look at data from lake non calls they have Kuwait. Yeah I mean he was give us a lot of faster rate interesting guy college guy. And from that standpoint you know he'll be missed by the New York media pro football standpoint. I don't even know how much yet left I mean yet he had a bad year last year he had fifty so catches he drops a bunch of balls. He he didn't get open as much as he used to so. I get for the giants it works because he'll be that number two receiver there. The guy's name Beckham. Who per it was pretty good and so. You know it Brandon wants to win any says he does a good place for him but he are going to be greeted the old the jets epic kind of he he would not have stated with this rebuilding Lugar and Pete V it would it would have been it would have been a disaster in the locker. You know being main impression having Brandon Marshall been around a long time obviously he's bandit six Robles but he does. Tell me if I'm wrong my impression is that Brandon Marshall is not the greatest teammate. Is that accurate would say rich Adam because he makes impression he makes favorable impressions in his television work but it wonder what it's like among his teammates and in the locker. Yeah I think that's. You know it's improved a lot and me not being operated Marshall who. We have major headache in Denver Miami. Or even Chicago for that matter I think he's matured. To a certain degree I think he's very focused on his second career. Television. I don't think he wants to be perceived as the you know the malcontent anymore so he's trying hard. The be better but it's people loved by his teammates. I never got that impression. He had. Some flare ups with some guys in almost notably so rich it's been able to close a couple of times during the year. You know locker room even their receivers the younger receivers. I would estimate you know what kind of victory branded. And they really didn't see you know the they give it very lukewarm response to that so I don't think he's beloved by his teammates. I think he's trying harder is just it and put I don't think he's quite there yet you don't. The jets I know that it's been rough you know they're they're shedding salary but. The core of their strong defense is still intact upfront I mean. Do you think they envision what a path to winning some games this kind of leaning on that front seven defensively particularly their front four defensively and all the talent they have up front there. Well they do have a good defensive line of though I think they're I think physically chancellor of treating children reached the these a year out I mean he courted it would last year's contract eighty million. He's a pain in the neck in the locker room as well so I I think they'll look at (%expletive) that grow. You didn't produce last year he probably needs to change his injury but even if they do trade of the still have letter Williams with the there's. One of the rising stars in the league in my onlookers and had a bad year last year but. I think he'll rebound this year that you talk big do some talent in the front seven they don't have. They don't have a scary pass rusher like an outside any Russian type of guy that steps of that they really need. It is to complement those other guys that you mentioned so but you know I I think they're better than average of front. On defense but still. Not this secondary awful right now so no matter how much pressure they put on the quarterback I Rica they need to be looking cover. Now Richmond with all that being said we're do you think they do it suits. Well in the end I think it'll be if they stay at six I think they're very much looking forward to tree down. To accumulate extra fixed but it's they stated they expect that you are who are it would be defensive player. Which I don't get it looks probably like. You know Specter Eddie has the wall. Can you name the last time it gets to our sense of player in the first round. Morrison says. Yeah that edmark stated that what Mark Sanchez 2009. Then so worried 78 years removed from bad. And I think the law of averages would suggest that other defense of players the only real estate that is I don't think the pick your quarterback. And the only opposite supplier. Who I think would be worth the sixth pick would be later Ornette. And I don't know if they would pull Iraq are trigger Hillary back that I and so I think it's an article you'd corner. Word edge rusher. Possibly even a safety is Jamar Adams is still there like yeah I I think chances are defense. And rich legacy we circle around and get back to quarterbacks them. Brian Hoyer Mike Glenn and Tyrod Taylor is the jets' opening day starter one of those three errors there is it's still to be determined do you think. I. I don't think they're getting get elated or poor. That's what I'm hearing now. I I think those guys ethical I don't know another Chicago NIC quarter. We'll end up somewhere. Between buffalo you know her record edit the possibilities are that bill I would keep Tyrod Taylor. I mean it sounds like a lot of money but if you get ready and did you gonna have to pay a lot of money to get a replacement so. I try to bill that would keep them but if they don't I think the jets would be interest in Taylor bullet. I don't think it jets are gonna break the bank a quarterback I think they want it it'll more modest. Acquisitions so. I don't know I honestly don't know their opening day. Starter I I don't think they're just it and Jay Cutler but no there's a lot of speculation about that but I don't think that's one of their guys. So. It's it's anybody's guess at this point. Sounds familiar to us here in Britain if favorites thanks for this we appreciate you spent little time of the today thank you very much. Rich in many on the subway Percy top line subway eat French she's the ESPN NFL nation reporter covering the New York Jets. They've got issues they've got quarterback questions the bills have one big quarterback question that they're gonna after to a figure out over the next couple of days or so but when you look at the whole picture and Margaret says that you know that they're talking and he thinks you're gonna trade away Sheldon Richardson. That is total terror down. Of the New York Jets hold admittedly not my favorite franchise probably one of my least favorite franchises. But it's a look at shocking when you think of where they work. That's Sunday coming into buffalo a couple of seasons ago on the verge of the playoffs. With Fitzpatrick right now I with all their production from. Guys like Brandon Marshall with Eric Decker waiting in the going to be injured that day hump where they work to where they are now it. It's still shocks me how quickly the jets though found that happened yet and it doesn't actually happen that often at best but it really did fall apart for them in her in New York. You know it's like you said it is crazy but the fact of the matter is they knew. That they weren't gonna do the same production out of Ryan Fitzpatrick that they did today yeah that's why it took him so long just like you said that's why it took so long to do that deal. Because they're like this is an anomaly like we're not gonna get the same production and we're not time to break the bank he didn't expect it to play like he did this past season. But. You know they they just don't have a quarterback and then when you don't have a quarterback you're not winning games you have guys like Brandon Marshall who can be cancers to lock. You know because you're not winning. You have guys on the defense out of the ball like southern Richardson mine on the Watson who can be. Cancerous to a locker room because you're not winning winning cures all when you're not you have those personalities it makes things a lot worse. We wouldn't even have to go that far back what affected. The finale in the twentieth fifteenth season how about a week to week two last season 2016 the jets just absolutely lit up the bills then Fitzpatrick. Decker Brandon Marshall the young guys the young receiver just torched the bills at that point in this was September 15 last year. The jets look like hey they're gonna be there again they're going to be a force to be reckoned with I don't know if I after the Libya. Absolute playoff lock but they certainly look like a force to be reckoned with and it fell apart and the next week he threw like six some. But slightly easier that happen yet. I know I know that I know what happened I I kind of a sense of why it happened but it still stuns me how quickly that the team can writes and. And all and and in this case and now. They've fallen all the way off and it's no telling how long is gonna take them climb back up to the top you know hopefully you. You'd expect the bills climb back into the top and you hope that the jets stayed down at the bottom. But you can see how fast it can happen for you like you said a minor happen that often. But it can happen when it does it take you awhile to get back up there and they're number one thing that they need to find is a quarterback. How laws that don't take in the final one of those may be trapped in and everything you. Nuts. Squeeze in a call here Rick in Denver hello Rick welcome here in the year. There are guys who were just came out Romo is gonna get released on Thursday. And I live in Denver and all the talk did do that he's flying. Directly from Dallas ranked number nine. We're just gonna open up Trevor it and and I'm Tony if we can trade high ride what you did give it time to do trade Tyrod the browns. In would be able to pick up any not a rookie contract. And give it cap flexibility should be able to sign people around them. I mean personally I think that the Waco. An upgrade over terrorists there in your view. I don't know be necessary I think you have more upside I mean I've watched employment here and you know yeah he he made some rookie mistake. These kids got a pretty good arm he's got a pretty clear head and you know there are a lot of people in Denver and don't wanna beat ego so. You know I think his upside potential might be higher I mean I think we're Tyrod is that they cared about him a very good feeling an explorer to close together. And I think we've seen about the what Tyrod and available in the only thing that's gonna make him any better at media system may be kind of and that that. I think the upside potential with Damien. It harder and worked it no matter rookie contract and I haven't 815. To seventeen million. I'm beginning many years so I think it's a win win for everybody. What do you guys. Yeah yeah makes sense again I. I haven't seen enough of Ximian this I don't think he's an upgrade over tyra but the way you position it come. Make some sense in terms of you get about a rookie contract so if he is your bridge to your eventual franchise quarterback certainly. You know you'd have some flexibility there in terms of money so I get that that accent. I just don't know that I've seen enough of Sammy I don't I believe I truly believe he is QB stepped down from Tyrod Taylor and I don't know if I wanna see this team take a step to. For me you know I look at it that would be a total money decisions you know that'll be totally like listen really reaching if this down a rookie deal. He could be a serviceable serviceable quarterback until we enough fun and our guy. We put some weapons around and maybe he can make plays for us we know we're gonna have a top five rushing game top ten resting game. That would just be a total there. Well and yeah that's the way they think that those who argued that you know you can plug somebody else besides Tyrod Taylor. I'm not one of them but those who argue that we'll tell you that looked. You've got the number one rushing attack in the league obviously Tyrus of that but you've got this all this money and investment on the defensive side of the ball. We have surrounded that position with some pretty decent talent including Sammy Watkins LT Sammy Watkins hopefully and we don't think the drop off would be that significant. With 31 break passing offense last year last couple years. That's the argument for what they what ecologists. Presented to us I don't like that argument but I can see why people would say. That is it's like me when you think about it map respective. Yes I understand where you go with this thing you'd been dropped off. In the run game is gonna take you from first to top ten right. Within and without him the question is how much better you do in the past and now if you can go from 31 thirty seconds to. Twentieth. Are you OK with that from me you have to have a strong defense though not a sizable bite if you decide to go it would tyra. Everything that you do aside from the wide receiver position have to be defense and shoring up the defense so that you can still be. A competitive team you're not taking like debts. Speaker tanking I think protecting. I think they're re setting out a couple of tweets I was tanking maybe it's the wrong word if they aren't we. In full tank for the jets they see the prize. Thoughts guys twice tweets and jets are Smart tanking for an elite quarterback bill should try to time. What we quarterback and it tanking for. There's not a quarterback in this draft so which are about a two year appointment tanks do not work in the NFL they almost too big don't exist. In the NFL I really believe that I've if you don't do that in the NFL and if you do it in other sports it doesn't work all the time there either union and it ago too far to see evidence of that. Right I don't know I don't necessarily know their tanking. I think there and rebuilt there and a total Churchill's work. Yeah and that they wanna build out a I don't know a basketball you can see like that the sixers tank for a long time it kept cardinals early picks. And hockey I guess team's tank. But in football it's the stoppages today we're taking we're taking everything I think you can say we're going to rebuild bowl and we wanna build. From the ground up on I don't know if you like we're gonna take every single year to refine a quarterback that doesn't make sense. And a tweet here from Tim feathers it to be how can you say Ximian is a step down from Tyrod Taylor and then say Yemen watch him enough to make a decision. Mean it probably watch him play a half dozen games listeria and played that much. My belief is he would be a step down from Tyrod Taylor and watch Celtic. And probably won't ever. Been much vote Arabs are gonna take a break we're gonna switch gears a little bit talk about. Rules changes the competition committee met last week in Indianapolis. Look at it changing some replay issues. They're looking at some safety issues and elected to crack down once and for all of excessive celebration dial. It's time. It is a not time we don't talk about this them and we are gonna talk about it with their body been Austro football's keepers that now. That's coming up next John Murphy show presented by. NAPA Auto Parts from one bills drive a Buffalo Bills read. What's more John Murphy she. Welcome back to show we are coming alive from when the orchard park New York the wind is howling out there right music little lookout there I mean it's. I worded nervously well I I don't trust this building entirely I got sick and even with a brick walls and everything behind us. I don't you know I I've seen annals blow off the roof of us up well Pamela and even notices aren't. But if this is a great thing about working in your W walk on the hallway and you just happen to bump into all of the Jim Alexander with its what you owe. And his daughter Erin just make a development and he's and I've talked to them briefly there and doing some interviews with. When I think you know football you know football note to which him yet and that this series and and if a network anyway that's beside the point where comedy alive from one bills drive by to take a break from all the talk about free agency and talked you know while we were at the com by doing our work. The NFL competition committee was busy last week in Indianapolis Donald focusing on a couple of issues and whatever we have. Questions and issues regarding officiating we go to our guy he is our go to guy for officiating issues in the NFL. Is website its football zebras dot com is he up through the book so you think you know football. Very happy to have by Skype right now our buddy Ben Austro band John Murphy Dow Jones McDermott join ministers today. Let me bring my every case been here in the UK you know full well we sure. And app that. Yeah we had the ball too as well so you think you know football and you know on balance it's one of these things where they're gonna start looking at the rules again and hopefully they keep everything intact where we. Mentioned some of the rules there. It eight and that issue Ben do you think is the NFL like gum. Hyperactive when it comes to altering rules do you think is it too much tinkering with the rules and your your basis Fuhrman. Well I think that's it is tinkering and it tends to be these low level things and and there's not a lot of things that really elevates the service and sometimes there's something that they see in the game and they say hey. You know this would have been interpreted two different ways and we want to make sure that you have the right interpretation. All. And then your start does things like unsportsmanlike conduct and some opening bells. Start to get wrapped up especially last year where they put the new. Two when you're out rule and and so you know your you're seeing celebrities. These major things about. As well let that for the most part of it seems to be. Little little changes and I think that that's what we're looking at this you're not into Manger and. And as far as the process it's important to note that the the process actually what begins at the com by last week in Indian there's. A lot of review a lot of discussion that we'll take place before any of these rules changes are. Are affected in the league correct. And they're going to go well it all behind these solicit information from the teens. And even the players association. Assess probably in some polls as well. And so don't try and and we some things out there make decent thing is that the competition committee says it will take this on. And then you have a situation where they. Competition committee doesn't want to support that then teen and then bring that up themselves at the ownership meetings. So there's different paths that these eight. But it really starts with you know starting to let survey that players survey that. Teams for what they're looking for and of course there's things from Beijing department that they'll see that come off. Up from time to time in the neck and nose but that on this competition committee engines. A they've been so you put it out there. Obviously her sodium highly against this whole rule things went dancing and celebrating and all that stuff so. I did you clear it up for me though the on sportsman like for excessive celebration. Is that to a one game is that like the second time you have one in a season you're rejected by how does that work. Is set to it one game as it stands right now assuming it was only for one years and they actually path to. Renewed the owner was beating word or goes away entirely. So I I know you're you're really well that went. I'm as far as as the two unsportsmanlike conduct rule. I think it also typing officials' hands. Because rather then putting discretion. On on things and being able to say okay here's a situation where. It's gone over the line and we have to reject. We're also takes out preventive officiating which is. The other thing at a referee makes me. Some companies science and law. I really need openly and honest it's hard enough to officiate this game I don't need all of this extra stuff. Going in between plays and so I think it takes actual away from the officials. I am putting this ruling and so. I've been vigorously that we as we've been calling it into NTQ rule. Take that out entirely and just make it more of a point of emphasis for officials. Rather then and all of these these other ended ormat is all about. My sense is that last year the yet. The two from you know specific types of unsportsmanlike conduct penalties that league they call the penalty get the morning and then a disqualification would follow. Do they ever did anybody get disqualified under that rule last year I can and often if it happened it got by me. Yeah and and these first and it happened it was. Giants vs Washington. It turned out that O'Dell Beckham junior and Josh Norman the two. I signatories I guess you can say that is new rule you know we're in banking and it wound up being the center pick up the got the call. Other werder I at least three of them there was another one where it was an injectable situation anyway. So it wasn't very many. And we we get the review of the previous years. Up penalties and there was only one instance where it would have been called in 2015. Is not something that would happen too terribly often. And so I am not entirely sure this is working as expected. Then again you know they always put this in three year right. Last year and and that was kind of an hedging their bets because it wasn't must work the owners to be in with. So this may be it a day 01 and done from this particular rule. Now I guess we can move on to something else. We can move on through violent hits. Viola hates people would Jackson do you talked with little bit about that. Are you just don't call option terribly often the end in an injectable. Discussion. I mean areas and flat now. What we call local motive here it's like you have some Nicole and her fair catch and somebody is it's absolutely flat. Mom and that happens belts five or six years ago there wasn't. Injection that. These things don't come up too long because you're dealing with a pro players playing at a pro peace and there's gonna be pro hits and they're going to be violent. So I'm not exactly sure problems from little bread crumbs that came out of these beating since we're there exactly going to win this. If you're gonna start to move towards targeted and I'm like the NCAA has. It's kinda art tell by. Up there really are very few situations where you're Tennessee hit that is in the normal course why. That is gonna be objective is going to be in any year you're after the play is that are that are injections. You've been tablets are so prevalent on NFL sidelines now and I know that was appointed discussion that. Instead of going under the hood you know like the man behind the curtain in the words of robots that may be just that headset and look at the tablet would. Accelerate the process of replay review a little bit. Well I. Shave minutes off at the end elapsed time at the game and one of the things that they even mention let's. Going into reads welcome directly into it without them now. There's also something that you're able to help ease. Automatically reviewed in you are up by the inland you know Albert rub me the senior supervisor of officials. I'll have them essentially make the call. Without involving the refereed. Never gonna happen tablets. Available to rent free because he's got to communicate. Other entity the ruling has been made he's got to have some knowledge as to what was. What was Paul and so that they're gonna keep him in that process it also keeps him from just standing on the field. We did end up like eight years and is waiting all that you are right but they started to move towards its centralized reply. And I think we're just one Clinton Whitman being completely centralized. And team Europe and below by the time tablet is in the referee's hands. Dean landing has got coal down. And this you know this is going to be fumbled it is losing sleep. I was so. It's in retirement and I think that the time has come percent because we. Now when you look at centralized replay system and do you think. At some point they can become aware that slowing down a game I mean you've had guys in New York City who were watching all the games. You'd think they'd they'll start to chime in too often an active slowed on the day. Routers they have the challenge based system. And that was one of the criticisms would be first generation of replaying the 1980s. You have replay officials who were trying to over appreciate so they wouldn't review a play that was your yard gain and say no it's actually complete. Well it just wasted everybody's primary there. So that he could challenge system we'll stay in there. You're still gonna have her replay official onsite because Theres just all sorts of things that have to be watched a particular team. And then and then invoke the replay and bring in deeply and you know who's got ten games. I'm an early Sunday. Window there you know there's all of these moving elements he's still happy ons I replay. Persons who two confirms some holes and you know not go and we'll all loan re right. And also. Two to make those be playing challengers under two minutes honest or play. They bet all of it bears watching we thank you for joining us on the show here today to discuss some of their signature we'll talk again thanks very much. Thanks then Astro is the man behind the website football zebras. Dot com everything you need to know about the rules changes officiating in the NFL they got to their and that website. Football zebras dot com Ben is also the author of the book so you think you know football we're gonna break we're gonna come back with more than John Murphy show from. One bills drive this is Buffalo Bills three. With more John Murphy. Welcome back to show John Murphy Dow Jones and breaking news here on the show today we can't confirm officially that the Buffalo Bills have reached an agreement to restructure contract. Contract with the Buffalo Bills 8030515. The number connect to react to that. Toll free 1888550. To 550 or via Twitter at Jim Murphy show we just took a hit from the wing and here in Orchard Park that's on the ST the wind is here. And maybe it's biblical way Donald Tyrod Taylor restructures and no we get bumped off immediately happened at the disease that is an award the government out of my mouth but it is for real Tyrod Taylor has that agreed to terms on a restructured contract. With the Buffalo Bills that. You know I don't know where to put the percentage of fans who wanted him back but with time to move on I think what's cults I mean I do think there was a a segment of bills fans who thought it was time to get better quarterback and I understand that. 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