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Mike Shields and a Bulldog. Guys I could not believe what I always hear him. Clinton this is on them. Arm are threatened local radio station this. Crap. Is being played I couldn't even believe that the words that I was listening to you it's might show as a mom. It is. Like why is this on here and the Bulldog I started it tears in my eyes it upset me so much. And my eleven year old daughter listens and does radio station. Never again will she listen this seeds might show up got to collect myself because this. This is what our youth. Is being subjected to and the bulldogs'. Visit on our radio station that our kids are listening to. I so let that isn't ridiculous it's Mike she'll spend a Bulldog. I don't believe. The radio and I just don't even understand. Why they think that's okay none WG ER my daughter whenever I listen to that radio station again ever I am shaking. I cannot believe that field is on. Here Sports Radio five. You think we're going eleven year old girls who listen to our show. Robert Perkins in the Ehrlich. Well that's right and sure of it and say yeah. And say yet to what do you say their Raila of course. You know it's buffalo buffalo girls get into targeted their sports very young just like buffalo little boy and so I'm not good that you're on you're gonna have some. Someone out there right I wouldn't expect this to be like big numbers of people. But someone out there with a mom or dad who likes the show. Bad picks the kids up from school and here's this segment may be every day. So hot I there. And the video you girl like like likes something about. I don't know maybe maybe maybe she likes Ryan and and the stuff he plays at the beginning maybe she likes that I sometimes struggle to put two sentences together. Maybe she likes you I don't know. Yes there's an eleven year old girl throws in the show when I like those guys eleven year old girls give me call tell me well all this follow creepy turn. News release. Put it that if you look at them. Oh. Well I believe you do that right back at Xerox who later Riley back later in the show. So. Second day Tyrod Taylor returns the second day. One thing that. Was interesting to meet today as there's all this news still impostors you know not just quarterbacks Stephon Gilmore Eric Williams will be a lot to talk about today. More than usual Lira. This -- three year saying that the bill it's. Quote kick the tires and quote I'm Mike London who is going to Chicago. For fifteen million dollars. Or is it nineteen million dollars one year guaranteed that's that they're saying that. The bears if they hate them in the year and can get away to get away from her impaired. And that sounds like another team that really is committed to doing now. So. That the bills and the jets. Try it out stride on the big one in short in the changing rooms and were at about 1011 million dollars. And yesterday as we talked about I thought this was very interest thing. Humidity. Tyler on a few weeks ago predicting as many did that Taylor would leave. Said that he thought they would end up with a guy like that right. But he made you mentioned those guys maybe get you mention lawyer Lisa thank we'll talk to him later is a side. And it it really has me wondering just how this went down. And at what point just how much confidence to the bills. All along here ever have. In Taylor saying yes to them. If it does seem from this view by these reports that I am choosing to. That it was about money. That it was all about money it was about Taylor's money this is as far as will go. We are not picking up the option this is as far as rule go I believe that the bills were not gonna do that that was also widely reported. You have Mike went in here we will pay you this much reportedly Brian Hoyer may be the same thing. Taylor's news comes down right after. By the way yesterday the so I would wonder about the timing too it's all very interest thing. This does not have to be some thing you think is bad they can very well be something you think is good and Smart. This was a money. Matter. If Taylor would take our money. Our offer we can we'll have Tyrod Taylor if not. Boy somebody else if Glavine. Didn't have the bears. Them. And the bills offered him 1011 million dollars which is still electric killer offer for a guy like this. And notes to say the bears roared in that and the jets weren't in that. Meat eat. There's no. Renegotiated. Contract offer at least anymore to Tyrod Taylor and emirate Michael and right now I am gonna be a minute shoes. That. You choose to believe the reports I'm inclined to do pot. I'm gonna choose to believe. That the bills would have recognized. That Taylor. Walton was always their best option. And that any. Any maneuvering they were doing with any of these other guys was fall back. If they can't get Taylor to be cooperative and may be even they felt it was necessary. To. Go through the show I would imagine burying his agent Taylor's agent would have known. The bills are really talking to Michael and bitter talking to Brian hall early this is really happening. And we can leverage is being exerted. On Taylor by doing that. And that doesn't mean they wouldn't be ready to make one of those guys their quarterback. But I I would I would hope that preference a because even though I'm not optimistic about Taylor taking this team to it to some really high level. My read of this has always been he's the best of that leg of a I'm talking to Tyrod Taylor Mike went in and Brian Boyer. Tar Taylor money not an object is is the preferred quarterback of those three guys. So can I make the money work if if he doesn't want to work my money then I'm gonna go to one of these other guys and that's scary to me because like that's just a waste time as far as I'm concerned. But. I think. That they felt it was necessary to do that in order may be to get tailored to cooperate with them. Which is a weird thing to do to. Your quarterback. Depending on what your plans are for him well I think the biggest the biggest take away here you know point four hours later. Dust settling to me is. I'm gonna be very curious to see how they handle the position from here on out. Because they are paying him and certainly treated him like well he treated them like just another guy. Like Mike won him like Brian Hoyer like a guy that wasn't their starting quarterback for two years right and that. Could lead you to believe that they are very open minded about still trying to get better at the position and an I would want them to be. My fear is that they won't be because Taylor is here and they don't want it disturbed that but the money they're paying them. And how they handled this. Might indicate otherwise. But they'll be willing if they relive all the guys at ten even maybe they would still do that just. This guy's a star we know far and book Brooke group we know we need to get better there. And their actions certainly indicate. That. I do what certainly I think. You can perceive their actions throughout this as having a recognition that they wanna get better ya it's like no law. Right and that you'd be hard for me to be mad at them about that you think have a bigger issue with that that I do so that you like the idea of Taylor. As their starting quarterback or a starting quarterback to be successful league game more than I do. So if if if they're keeping him because he's their best option. But they're still going to work starting I don't know this April meeting next April the latest. To try to get better there to find another guy that's better than him. I find it hard to be really upset about all of us. You know they did sign him so this isn't all the way right but. It be kind of ironic and funny to meet if for all the times I've thought through the years the bills have been wrong about things and watch them lose. Here's one more I think they really don't like Taylor and I'm in your liking them and if they win with the thing we in that way. That's funny yes you know I don't they they did the contract with a last summer. Big numbers they put down one of meant he'd be gets paid in the middle of the league which is about where he is a battle better than that quality wise as a player. And their like bill that's too much. We'll take you will keep you F. You let us come down here and ultimately Taylor said yes to that which is the most surprising part of that other stuff is really that surprising. A little surprising maybe but not as surprising. Answer he says yes to that and here we are. I just I think. I saw one and a whole lot more about the sequence of events here in the last few weeks. And I'm so hoping to be able to find out some of that stuff but when I saw Glendon in the bills which wasn't ever anything we talked about. It just in passing bright he's one of a got a list of names. The the bears may be affecting you head or have half a dozen teams are show. In the market for guys two things here one is that might have. Immense that the bills don't have Michael won and under contract right now or my 4 o'clock today if it might have meant that. And I think it's weird about that. Depending on your opinion of Tyrod Taylor. Is that there was not apparently. A spot for him. To cash in like that may be fifteen which is still less than what is thing was here you know that the bills then walked away from. But there is not a team there for him and I'm not gonna be done to say the least. I'm not gonna be done. Trying to compute all this until Cleveland makes its move. Because the browns were the team that was talked about his being hot for him many of the jets and the jets are etched into. And bigger jets and up at Ximian orbited jets and up at nobody OJ call it being connected to today. Yes that's been out there for awhile too as I mean that's possible. I want to see what they do too but so far this off season the guys they've caught. They look like a team that would be willing to go with the royal regiment would be higher engine called third quarter and maybe not even our dale. Yeah yeah that's what I'm saying but what was really out there for Taylor yeah that's what I wanna know yeah I think the best I can do right now for trying to. Put this puzzle altogether is as came up yesterday. It seems like what probably happened is that Taylor realized. There was not a better. Contract available to them. The browns will sue the browns do right if if the postal pay Colin Capra neck. Forty million dollars for a doubt. And what do think makes a move like that cap that would have to be the guy of the guys were left for this or collar I guess it. Kept it kind of works too if you like Tyrod you've probably cap on it. Even so if they do something big like that that'll be relieved stopped because. I think I'd rather have Taylor it's close yeah up bright and Taylor. Like why would he not have just moved into that spot now I gotta think right now that he didn't have that option. Cleveland. Ya know I mean that's that that that that it has to be that. There was on my part I'm maybe a lot of people's part it's certainly my part. Did you stood up on me just read. Of just just a tall order is that contract extension that we're sitting their for him. Really was that no nobody wanted to pay him that kind of money. That and once he realized I'm I'm I'm willing to assume at this point. That he realized his age realize nobody's giving me 27 and a half million dollars right now guaranteed. So what are my options then. I can try to negotiate a contract with Cleveland or the jets were if there's any other team but maybe maybe the market isn't as. As fruitful is not as many options as as we might thought. I can't do that then my next best thing is to actually play ball with the bills. That there are seriously saying that they are not going to take on the extension. So. I I've been there. I've met these guys the coaches I mean for Taylor say all these things I think don't assumed all this anyways we know he's been. Rehab being that surgery at the building at the facility. We heard McDermott say as much yesterday too that you know they they've they've spent time together so there's familiarity and like okay. And I've told to stay there and the money is going to be comparable even though it's less than what they negotiated with me back in August. It it is to meet. Still with all that said. It is stunning that. He's agreed to stay here he's he's got fifteen million dollars coming. That's guaranteed between bonus and salary this year. And they can walk away from him this offseason and that's it. So he went from 27 and a half million dollars guaranteed fifteen and have guaranteed. Now if they keep him next year he gets another sixteen million dollars flick that's his salary for next year. So we will be talking again this policies well what you'll have to do to qualify exactly. So he signed up for you know. The same. The same thing really the same thing he did last year the money is Smart he got nine million last year this year he gets fifteen who got six million dollars more. To do it and over the course of two years he's gotten 24 million dollars to be the bills quarterback. Some bad but I would have thought even on the open market if not 27 and a half guaranteed still more than just fifteen. Which is all I mean he could end up just at back but that's it and if he goes to a new team. I don't maybe the quarterback market has changed even though you're seeing Mike Glenn and give it. You know fourteen a year they're talking about or whatever it is. If it's only that for one year and it's not a bonus stretched out like a big bonus I mean. Tyrod got seven million in bonus from the bills usually the most of the biggest part of the contract. This is not so maybe quarterbacks that are. So good. Blake most of this crop of guys Taylor included teams have gotten smarter. To what extent and realize and they don't want to be the bungle I don't want it rattled over commit another TV thirty million dollars guaranteed. And then two years in the Disco all my god put a bullet in me and I do. And that's with competition in the market which make it even more happening and it's with Washington existing right Washington has a quarterback who has thrown for lots of numbers. And they don't even wanna pay them this is this may be just as simple as Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers. Where you have especially Brady where you have these lean boarding quarterbacks. That meet all the rest the teams feel so inferior and make you question what you can realistically do what does Dallas thinking Ellison is great season. And they give Rodgers in the first playoff game and lose. Like because they don't have them. He was the reason that he wasn't the blowout for Dallas is three better Rodgers so like what is what should be your strategy you play into England's division. And we have you know could have been asking this for years and what should be your strategy here really try to beat them. Or just sort of recognize what you can't do. The browns the browns. We're not into England's division but. They're so we interest thing and so last year the browns. Bottom out and one thing they did in that process is they cut good offensive lineman. They caught they got rid of Alex Mack who was the falcons owner that putt with a broken leg in the Super Bowl right. And three guys they had good players up front pretty good at least and they got portable. And there were criticized for that of course because any time you do that people think like you know the Jews an idiot. What the browns wanted to do was what we accomplished which was be the worst team in the league the brought me they added draft picks they traded down on the meat moves until they get to this offseason they've got a record amount of cap space and it got only specs. And so as free agency is starting look what they're doing. They sign green based on her. Who was very highly rated by pro football focus before he got hurt in the middle last season trenor is his name they signed. The I decide to guard from Cincinnati. That also pro football focus. Called the second best player in free agency mean they have another young guards that they re signed. That was also very good grade wise they have the best left tackle where a lead they never traded Joseph Thomas usually never traded Joseph Thomas. So now now they look like Dallas a little bit. They have a great offensive line on paper they just did that you know today it's what. I've been saying that this is what Cleveland's gonna be able to do what ever it wants in free agency if they want the pace upon Gilmore. Forty million dollars they had plenty of room to do that the could've done that they don't wanna do that. Senator guard guard. They have the tackle they don't have the quarterback yet thing but they're there might look you're looking at Dallas. Saying. Well whatever. And think about what that represents about the NFL right now for all the years where we make fun of it. We got away from. Your quarterbacks only as good as is offensive line which is like fifteen years ago on this mission which you work every day. And there was lot of truth in that then we saw. Well usually your favorites Ben Roethlisberger get destroyed week after week after week terrible blocking. And still Pittsburgh's go deep he throws for great stats. And they win games. Yeah Otellini the offensive line for. I think there are signs that is the other way again now you can't these quarterbacks that were talking about including our guy. The league it is use that it's just a minute ago the league is not that impressed with them yet an end thing that I am most surprised about in that is that. All it takes is one team last year it was Houston with us Weiler to play goal. I don't does it the start and then the the market goes bananas. And the teams to sort of follow suit brought they did I gotta keep up I got the quarterback too much that's been going great. And it seems they don't I don't think it's exactly collusion that crap but wouldn't go that far but it it looks like. Teams have finally realized. What you decided a minute ago that wanna be the angles and the it's better to say the Texans OK I don't wanna get tied up with. Somebody who's not that good and be two years into it MB sitting her going. I think I want my gonna do no I can't get away from this guy I can't even take addressed his replacement a little colds can be messy. So. It's it's it's maybe you know fortuitous here for the bills that that happened mop my read it would've been in walls all along. The that would not happen and therefore there's no way Tyrod Taylor can play ball he's he's gonna go at the open market and cash but. The few teams that had a need I think it appears when it. And we'll pay you a little less. Or some other guy that's maybe not as good as you wanna do not overpaying who do you think Cleveland's quarterback is now. Who would you guess is Cleveland's quarterback. They could do almost anything now. They could go big no one really seems to talk like that I think shepherd mix instinct for them but a medic about reading that. Even have Robert Griffin if you want mean today could goal. Rookie. They have bright boy Eric you mentioned it bring back Brian Hoyer and some of the bill would bring Fitzpatrick back so. And you were sent to school anyway for a tournament that they they could ovals than the one that could go to. Shawn Watson now the speaker do a lot of things. It might depend all the radicals. They're not gonna draft a quarterback at one negative and take that that freak of nature from Texas and and but if they're sitting there at twelve. And nobody picked quarterback yet. If they're really alike but I feel like we'll see all boats. I want her the plug him in behind this great line. I don't think we can write in Penn what happened here with Tyrod muscle Regis. Tells us. Which is gonna happen right I don't think we can write down in in ink what happened we're tyrants and we know what the browns do. And maybe the maybe they I doubt thought about the browns nearly as much as you head Hubert multiples every day. Texas say that Garrett at one. It makes it that we know freebie they do that and then in the second round the best quarterback that there are you know like when ever meet new guys are. Yeah I mean Trent and bullet that's our. Costco porridge Griffin and and a rookie of the Griffin plays right. Can't predict is reverend for all the people but it can't predict if they get that you cabernet phenomenal wanna know why. But what happened. With Tyrod Taylor because right now I feel like it has to be that Taylor found out he didn't beat the money wasn't going to be there for him in the in the market. And that's the the most logical conclusion to draw at this point. Sell comply GO coming up next on this and of course everything else what the bills are bringing in. Who's going out all wrong some of that through was sell and sell also beyond toward the end of the show. After Taylor has a news conference held at the stadium which we will carry that's at six today so we'll have Tyrod on live at six or take questions from. Lots of media. And then. Sell all recap that with us that's the plan complete Iraq much over the Bulldog to reach us at 8030550. This is WGR. It's one thing. I wanted to say about Tyrod. You'd think for four hours a day five days a week for a billion years I have time to do it without compromising sells time as the can of four. But the difference in money we're talking about it just not knowing him but thinking about. People normally if it's close. You you might stay that he doesn't have to be that. We found out Cleveland would pay a seventeen million dollars but it if it's a little bit more there are a lot of risks in in making that change. And even with a new coach here. There there is familiarity that just human nature and Buick you would put some value it it would just be it's easier to stay Newton. So demo he's comfortable in the environment and with the people we works well if he doesn't have to just be like a dollar Mort I'm leaving right. We all have our own own ways of processing that like whatever kind of job you do remove it in there wide work you might be talking about a few million. Which you know sounds crazy to your eye but to them I tried it fifteen million I can get seventeen to go here. I don't move my stuff like what what what what's the point. You don't. If it is it is usually it is easier to stay if you like the people that you are working and certainly not dying to get out there. And it's nicely tailored baby didn't seem like he was dying to get out here either even with those. You know a sloppy. Some of the says well yes and I just think this is is very much is debatable point and one I look forward to debating which I think would happen for a long time. This thing will be around a long time ago at the Washington's trade as we see how they do. But I just thought like I looked at Taylor's situation I thought it's offensive to me if you wanna renegotiate again I don't wanna talk to anymore we got. It's all I looked at it right there wasn't about whether I like living you're playing here was just like. Don't talk to me because we just did this. And you pure boredom you gave me a price and that was you know we decided that was fair to you wanna change it again I know you can. Football players are used to that football players are used to teams change in there there work arrangements for the rip up the contract whenever they want. Okay south by GO without us. On the AT&T outlined today the first day of free agency tactically for cell so. These eight or any other signings we've heard about even today still old. Waiting for 4 o'clock. Yes. I think so because the only one that can actually sign. Before today wouldn't pull organs street freeagent otherwise everyone's pretty much got to wait until 4 o'clock so you could have an agreement. But until that pettis foot the paper that's what you want to give us. Up to Bates Ella I thought I had a handle on this all this morning and and I didn't gap in my day. And I heard Joseph mention the name of searching regard mention the name of someone I hadn't heard before were sold like what we're putting that I wasn't listening we might might have been the garden. Carolina hello all we don't bet guard big Grammy you know let you costs Bosnia and then that is named yet and I had to wait till. Duke comes to their Vladimir likable and always think of Guerrero Vladimir Guerrero they're both as a couple of a great sports landowners. It and no doubt about it so basically. Glad you costs I think that's how you say it I do cost maybe he came in with the jets actually originally. The second round pick though. And it looks like he is going to be signing with the bills we'll see a formerly the ravens obviously was there win. Dennison was there as well so he's familiar with and that's a guide it looks like they're gonna bring in but that's got its orbit that signing an I don't think you know he could play right tackle. He's got to guard but he can also play tackle managed to see what they do their Mike Tolbert that we talked about the other ones Patrick DiMarco that's the one that's gonna be happening it looks like full back formerly the falcons four year deal. Echoing Ian Rapoport is worth eight point five million dollars four million guarantees you're talking about just over two years for them. The bills also it still appears that they are kicking the tires and some tight ends here maybe Jared Cook. Early out we heard Martellus Bennett and which is kind of crazy but that's all we heard so you know we'll we'll see where that goes but it appears they are doing some work on some titans. Which I find quite interesting as well. Jared Cook is famous for two things. One is that catch against the cowboys. Got the set up the winning field goal the other is these the guys like becoming peddled. I picked twice in a fantasy draft. Barack picked of after he'd been enjoying them I guess pedal that Ito rule what what are you order specifically on that sell the tight end idea. They want dumb wasn't even a good peck won about that do you find. You know curious or interest thing. Because they have Charles clay under contract for nine million dollars and hit really get out of it at the end there to cut Charles it would be thirteen in our cap that's not happening. They could designate in the June 1 cut which would. Making about a four million dollar cap hit for half I think it is still something you don't really want it was a good player calls plays good player actually I know is have the production that's partly because of the quarterback. You know what he's a good player you don't want to move on from Charles Grant on the bills in Iraq to do that so I wonder and then on top of that what makes them war. Nick O'Leary really emerged last year I thought as a solid number two guy. Who like because in nice future coming up so. I think that it just seemed outlook and he's chief technical that's right that's exactly right and and the other guys wouldn't be right I mean that it wouldn't be for sure Coke would be a little cheaper. But that I think about it I see what they do and often that's I mean. I know there's been a lot of jokes of their but the fullbacks whatever that. They have been in and receivers that looks like so far that there and wait for that market to settle maybe they'll go young in the draft. Maybe they're trying to go with a tight and route more to him create those matchups don't take a page out of the the patriots playbook split outs. Charles clay a little more use nickel layer use Martellus Bennett are geared Coker whoever is that there are dormant those with a maybe that's what they're trying to do you know this this fall back DiMarco he can catch passes out of the backfield so let's find interest. So why was there Williams caught. Because the bills are not can. Hints that he can play much longer if at all at any sort of level that they're comfortable with. I do know that you know Erin has been checked out he can play. It doesn't mean that he should play and it doesn't mean that the team wants to play. And also doesn't mean that things could not change after the first that he takes in training camp board game. And I think it's been two years now since everything happened the original neck injury he re entered last year in your to a point now where. Had a got to make a decision here either he's gonna play for you and your confident about it. Or not pop it up about it and yet to say we need to move on because. You know we have to think about our team and I think it's a personal moment there as well which is. Sometimes get the protect players from themselves guys and take that maybe that's part of what they're doing here. All right there's a trade and I have mentioned this but it's not an original idea of mines of mounting credit Parnell wrote this first. Cleveland traded for us Weiler. Home tier I doubt I doubt he's there starter. But bill Barnwell wrote that I. Really Heimlich 99% sure was Ambac months ago. News writing about the the great the greatness that is being the browns this offseason he said here's what Cleveland can do. Cleveland can take us Wyler and a good draft peck. Like for that from the trouble and just store them because they've got to the cap room on scampering to do that and they have done that. The trade is according to at a show after us Wyler and a second next year. To Cleveland. And I don't know what to Houston gets the most they have to get something open. Well yes I think in order for to be an official transaction strategy going out something going the other way older than just table take your pile of garbage quarterback in his stupid counteract. I. Well how about that that's what I don't know like I I doubt Cleveland's gonna go with rock us weather here but. Houston got out of it cost him a second round pick next year to get out of it does that. Well yeah right now Dallas wants to trade Romo reportedly mortenson. So me TE's Houston now. Don't know if you guys it was that I was with you was how much Howard and Jeremy lying I said there could be another guy out there that we we have talked about. That was Brock asked while I'll tell you why it was something I knew I was told the complex is crazy I actually think about this now. I was told to come by and that bill O'Brien hated Brock Wyler in that they were looking to just basically not happen on the team. They would even be willing to eat the nineteen million dollar cap it and when I was told that that was done it's there's no way any team would do that it appears that's right. Right isn't he did not Gosling. Clinton just did that there's another organization. What the coach doesn't like the guy one year after sign and into what was it 72 million and your right about our role he's just tweedle dunk to the stuff that he blazes plan out where Cleveland could do so. While one that's intrastate. Actress so how about that one thing so we'll see what happens with homeowner out yesterday he was going to be released and probably the Denver now. Maybe he gets traded in Houston. Houston and doing I mean that'd cleared the deck you know. Have a good team although trading him to still be some dead there. Nine million dads basis spot better than the eighteen or whatever warrants to have him. Well. Up a cell where where where where where where to conclude yes. And spirit will you asked about hair and I did. It's all fun and games until they. You actually have to start playing football in September I didn't steal that football team yeah I mean. Because they're gonna be that football team I think we can all lead I think we have this fascination. In this romanticized. Love. OK with. Every week with having money and cap space and draft picks all the possibilities why is his hope that you think about all the great things can happen. All hope is great until September 11 comes around you get your butt kicked third enough then. I'm sorry but let's go play football games before we start celebrating all the time all the great things that come from so much space center optics. Which route to talk more modern williams' high you know because I just saw I. Icy jets fans the last two days everything like it is great Pete I would rather that what they're doing the right way really I don't. So what Writely is that five years from now they're gonna make a playoff game I mean I know it's been seventeen years I get it. Yeah I can tell me as much they want while it's it's better than trying to go eight with a trying legally are you trying to win. I know that's what I definitely happening Celso that's why the idea of having the decks clear to them a lot of money and can't freeze and Brad Biggs is appealing an IKEA yeah Cleveland is also. If this hasn't worked hasn't worked pretty. Where you're citing that hasn't been is dotted and hasn't there hasn't worked for. So far no team has won like that the only thing that's happened as the colts because they're a special situation. I just don't think that I. I think in football it's way different you have four years to develop guys and they leave construct or Iraqi deals it's not like hockey where they have all these different rules to keep what these guys. On your team's. And I mean I think it's I think it's to me. I don't know why everybody celebrates as you celebrate. So much celebration going on lately with the jets in the browns always people who just have all this space and all this hope it's great because. These are teams like ours that are perpetually mocked. For being bad. If people look like those teams want to enjoy this sort of alternate existence good for them. The the proof is in the pouring with the Buffalo Bills. And I know like they're always trying to win right but a reasonable person cell looks at diamond goes what was it worth. Was it worth it was it worth it patching was it worth given Ryan Fitzpatrick that money could you wanna get worse. Like all the moves they've made it always been in this vein. Like even yesterday's move with Tyrod is to net and that same vein you say the bills wanna win the bronze wanna win. David Gergen Ben to a Super Bowl to the Cleveland Browns are important. They've never even bank it was Super Bowl and if they wanted to do this and here they are you one year later. Buying up all these great blind men big in this trade work with Houston forward for a high pick. I think it's brilliant. I at all even with the sabres of course I've always understood this philosophical objection to it. An and that really I can't argue with if you think that and I know you do you think that. You think it's wrong I. I don't I think it's different at different sports first of all meats and I understand why a team like like to Emery would think that because the rules are set up to help them. To get that player that can make that difference the rules are and football to know you're gonna draft before the good teams. And if you're 01 in fifteen you're gonna draft before everybody else. So the teams seem to draft every year hi Mike including the Cleveland Browns into it along time including the bills and include the raiders until they finally found a quarterback and I don't know when they're gonna do that or whoever but every team seems that all the time that's right teams always seem to be not drafting high well that's. Rice but I mean you you have to agree the effort that the browns have made in the last what thirteen months. Is different than those other examples. But the browns everybody knows what the browns are working on. And the raiders all these years or even Cleveland before it was totally different than that it was more like the bills only worse. Don't you agree it was what's what's try to get good and what's drafts you know whoever does the raiders the the raiders traded first round picks were. Carson Palmer and and Richard Seymour they they just they had to get there too that's the way that's the way the bells of I do think it is. A good point to make that the sport is different. Like the the the draft is different there's less certainty about the great prospects worries in hockey but when the sabres chose to go where they went. There was I mean there was no buyer beware there. But you knew what you were going to get if you if you made it. And in football. Like we we could talk a public sale I've said like I don't care of my preference would be quite cartel Jones win two games four games draft of the top dressed him down note Sam Arnold so this is stay in college. Which Jack Michael I guess could've gone in theory. Economy David those guys were calming everyone knew it wearing football it can be can be different both plans to go open smoker great prospect won your Jake Locker is an example. Turns into yesterday's papers by the time his draft comes around so I think football provides less security in doing it. But if it's still got some merit in my opinion. I guess I guess my overall policy it's not even the point of I understand why teams do I get an eagle and it if the rules are set up to help you. My frustration has been. Over the last whatever with it many sports in general maybe because we went through this with the sabres but especially I've seen jets and browns fans or whatever people talking about the national media. People being so happy about all the whole. Hope that whatever because they know their teams could be bad I just rendered I don't get it it's it's it's almost like your price people want their TV that's that you feel better sometimes because it's safer to me. It's safer to say we have a don't worry we're going to be great in three years look at all the stuff that is to say hey man you know what we got a playoff game to play and were picked base of really good team. It's gonna be tough to get in the. It needs each sleeper. Home why I couldn't disagree more these these teams fans like ours again have a combined million years of losing and being made fun off. And I don't care if it's because they were there Helmut backwards during games they like that good for them. Good for people who root for these horrible franchises. If they actually wanna try and truck try some new strategy. Because everything else they've ever seen aid and soft. So good for the Cleveland Browns fans and it that you are smarter not we we might always disagree on that whether it'll work or anything like that nobody knows it'll work. But the idea of people watching these fans the enjoyment. Just like people who be grudge sabres fans the enjoyment of two years ago I sit here for the two years since. That Michael tank bored out of my mind good of the team has no. Chance of anything no chance of the playoffs certainly no chance the cup and no chance of picking first. I mean college going to teach you how to go the browns is they only Jefferson they all this money to spend this and it's the end. I don't go to your team all it's what this witnessed its sixth maybe. But he went to ravens need for a lot less money because I wanna go there everybody up to Mike Tyson pledges and the fueling the browns are doing great. With the power generated with a belly regarding the usually go to great browser. I don't think they're doing great outlook see them perform on the field voices are doing what you can't do that today you can't do that but you can't you have me there because I can't watch the browns today. I mean I can't I can't tell either going to be good I don't know that. I don't appoint an adult the point was people aren't a lot of like it. You can like if you want I understand why people do it I think it's. I can't get to a point where I understand I guess I maybe got an analog like maybe I am that's layups but I think it's just to me. I I've gotten the point of rolling my eyes every time I think it's we're celebrating we want to be so bad when that's something that we should be striving for it seems to mostly that's the goal these days. Pay that is to actually try and wait for every day because as soon as you lose a game. All the cap room we can't let's go to the draft weekend of Rick and win football games or so when it happened for the browns they might coaches last year after the split. As soon as they lose a game is now when people say it if I rooted against buffalo fans buffalo team my whole career and at eleven mink coats. I have read more on that anybody on the planet might root against our team's last fifteen years in my life. Zealot and enjoy it as if it. If they win two games next year which is possible because of who buffalo and one more note that Brown's. Could very well fire that coach Wright I mean it could happen but acquired I'd like this and why bring that up what do they went eleven. Like what why bring up the scenario that hasn't happened yet a third. Guess it worked him an edit it make a wildcard round they lose while that's not good enough so you know I don't know you know I don't know a thing of the circular conversation north. Offense but you're gonna be there if they win 45 games and what's the highest possible number for this. You're going to be there next year just like. Certain people we and our broadcasters can tell you that the sabres thing has failed because before year who is over there not really good. You know the guys are gonna be there next year took two of my Cleveland and so I told me again how would do work if they're what six in time. Like how good it was when you get this at work I don't say it worked my I don't know what. Ten years the same way they tag no no it's it's like what disposal or I think tens ridiculous and I think you know that. Right I guess I went to supposed to work what what would the ground say. I would wanna tell you why your sport hasn't worked I'll tell you why it hasn't worked yet because the browns clearly. Clearly made decision this year to get better so bettors are working this year they did that they spend money. This year they've offered contract contract if they're not getting better it's not working right now. If you like given the years that's fine but they. I don't like they don't have the time line they don't have to make a play offs this year. Or else be called a failure at the whole thing be called a failure do I mean I wouldn't say oh that's fair maybe I don't maybe the play might be working well. If an article eight Nate. I mean if the weight Nate that's probably won't want. I don't know I think three or four years be my answer to that I don't know it was three or four butts on the like that after four years if there are no better than a knee. Then you know there were mistakes and you can pull the whole thing in question but but don't tell me like in your not. Don't tell me right now. That the sabres thing was all wrong because what their what their I'd point out of the playoffs with a month left in the second year at this. I don't think that is the people who talk like that as if it was if it if it didn't work it when Jack Michael was nineteen. Then obviously it was all for naught the kid's gonna be on the team of fifteen more years hopefully. My favorite subject cell. I don't view we'll talk later on voice that had. Do you good bye got to ask you still got a bit Eric I'm my heart is what racing is my favorite soda thank yourself. I mean not have to. All right. Told inside the right what has what looked what's left to say here. Other than seventeen commercials that we just skipped LA in the production don't think we'll figure that are your Bombay I commercial sorry that was also my I I think. I think that what I said in the middle of all that. It was blue one of the best point cellmate. Because you know he is objection which has been well known if you listen to the station went all through the tank like we do shows together when you're way Mikey just eat you know he was worse than me about it. But I was I was like come I was even a conscientious objector arms are like. I gotta do this I'm not haven't won with like you but I got it I I wanna do this I'm just I hate it and I'd I'd got to take my medicine. It's the only thing to do so go do it. But I hated ever second of actually doing it. I think in football. It it is it is different the point he makes you know that the draft changes from one off season to the next even prospects that look you can't. If the sabres. I don't know that they exactly did this like it just lined up that they were ready to be bad in a year where there was odd and on on questionable. Generational superstar across BS guy. And another guy who was gonna be really really great. And they were just sitting there. Okay well wouldn't do that and that's hard to do with football but the browns no doubt when this all started with the browns. Britain and the thing I would say to you is this is great who's their quarterback because that is what is going to matter of the very mulch now if they're loading up line and they think they can do it. With somebody that is an highly touted guys. I was she'll balk at the deck press god doesn't show up in every draft. I'm in early. Even really positive nobody is yet even our we like he had one good yearwood will seat. So. Big got to find their way to a quarterback one of these years while they're down here. Be really great for them if the number one pick that they have one sided with it looks at him there. If it doesn't. But that's good luck you know what though that's right it would obviously great for them but that doesn't it to whatever extent this is really supposed to be a referendum on the strategy. When you drafting rule lock. Whatever you did like you just. Doesn't take much effort no that's right to do that bought it and they're not city there's this offseason is proof they are not sitting around waiting for next year's draft. They are not angling for USC but let's see how that works for them. Because right that's right if they don't want to their credit is an eye is netbooks. Ultimately that's to their credit I I tell you just wait one more year I mean I think if you come out of doing what they've done and don't get a quarterback with a top pick. I'm not sure what you do it was worth it. Cred I just I know there is no way to guarantee that and that's the problem with the whole pared down to the extent they've done it. Right at the right at outset like that's why I think it it's fair to question it like if you're not gonna come out of that with a franchise quarterback. I don't hold that a lot of else. Really matters it is definitely fair question and what isn't fair I think is to. Criticize people for enjoying it nowhere is it written what you have to like about sports when you watch sports. And a lot of the arguments are faulty when it comes to the history of the league and different things. This is a concerted effort to build this team this way and and lastly for now. You know sell might say to me privately or on the area might say to me why do you wanna be Cleveland. Don't buy it number one answer that question is have you listened to last 45 minutes. That's my answer that question how much fun is this ring talk about whether Tyrod Taylor control over the middle for the next six months. It's a talk show. Despite this my career. That you're blessed 45 minutes what you want to Charles clay get open when you want. Holy cow man. I feel like I just ran a mile. And if you're where you would be like ten. Tyler Dunne next on WG yard.