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Just moments. No effect through the red with the Bryan gates bruises guys principal. That the blue bands. And no way. Way get real. What's going on everyone right gates hang out with you here it's the nightcap you just heard from Tyrod Taylor. And John McDermott from one bills drive. Let's get stuff from them and we got beat your knee pain and I tonight he he's ban begging me to get back on the airwaves. He's going to be on Saturday as well I'll be joining him there. But yeah he's he wants to come having a little. Over discussion first of the league year first but we had a discussion yeah happy new year happy laugh well new year but first. We're bringing in the sale by GO snell was out at one bills drive for apple. Sean McDermott and Tyrod Taylor press conference als Goldman. Not much she had an interesting day today obviously. You know knew the year began to moos. In later probably we just heard from ball so high interest. Yes let's start with some of the moves that were made by the bills obviously. The biggest one there was the signing of Mike Hyde. And I'll what what what are you gonna bring to the dells a versatile player he's got plenty of experience with Green Day. And has played a bunch of different positions so what do you think about that signing for the bills. Yeah our I think Sean McDermott was that every night what are the ways what's and perhaps because six victory that work for work Cairo which is. It is what they'll got seriously I it played safety he's played corner on all the outside in nickel. And he is extremely versatile. And he's a guy that's gonna be able to they're available around position that the public epithet Bakley set. Safety and nickel corner outside corner and at least he's a really good player he said talk about it pedigree. Plated idol operated big gains for the NFL obviously. That that mattered and it seems like there's a clear. Have to try and get it clear you know direction and those are trying to still bring some players in here who. Had no experience and bigger game than bigger teams and programs may be you know to bring that mentality the buffalo as well. Sell I'm interested in hearing your opinion obviously the other big news for early wasn't out of buffalo today rather in New England. Where Stephon Gilmore the former bills' first round pick signs for a five year 65 million dollar deal forty of that million are guaranteed. Then the bills bring in Micah Hyde and I'm interested to hear your thoughts on the bill's not deciding to basically move away from. Paying that what you don't think anybody thought that the bills were ever gonna get to fourteen million dollars a year. Annually. So they let the patriots do that in the neighboring and a guy like hide so interchange in those two guys what are your I guess confidence level. In their defense being able to pick up Gilmore is slack with new Micah Hyde. Well. Or law I think it's more base which are tied for air only candidate talk about that. I think I I will be a guy that can place safety like corner but. I think you're you're changing that because it's basically genius salary rate their lot basically hide getting the money apparently got out of that money after releasing some. But it it's kind of one for one swap there with the body's getting let. But your point about step on guilt or surely you know they like what the American you know it's been and it they wanna play ornery you know that. You know I'm surprised that during the patriots gave step by Gilmore that money and I don't think he's worked that money. But it's also because the picker never go that high for guys I mean for players. Let the guys that I think are. You know not necessarily. Consider. Unanimously or consensus. You know the back of their position or top by the position I don't think most you'll believe that about that I get more I think most people. Rationally. Believe he's been very good football player but I believe. Who is about a month yep opera a lot of his position and he kept it like that by the team ever people like that would kind of funny. And I I I am glad those walk April but of course. Because the patriot because the Nobel attack there any lauded for it and hear all about it outbreak are doing it but here's the thing about eight. Malcolm Butler they're number one and he followed every wanna Rao. It's Gilmore had. Personally if you don't particularly you pay Gilmore the number two guys that report crazy although I get your only saying Butler orderly and am I the first round tender. Or here at Butler which is possible and guilt or become number one that way different expectation that the bank importantly he. It is not gonna be equipped to do for sixteen games following top receiver. Suck my chill on the AT&T hotline it yet it's a surprising move by the patriots considering the way that they usually tax free agency. And now the rumors are flying around in Cleveland as well about I'm trying to trade offered Jimmy corral Palau. And they had a load of pecs that was allegedly offered a merry KK habit of the Cleveland times. Our quick plain dealer. Posted some of the details and it's being sad right now that third trying to get the browns to trade the number one overall pick for a Jimmy grapple all. How's insane is that in your mind. It can create a big deal it. Hugo I mean I. But luck we're dealing with a different animal because the ground these days they pick a different way. I have no idea they could use something like that I don't think they'll do it but the way they think now the thing they're doing. I really don't know what to come out of that what's funny is. You know you hear so much yet to become like you guys know that you put out there. You'd think I heard it become by it and I'm glad I bet both of them on the radio and I wrote about a read about. Spectacle of moderating autumn I'm glad I didn't out of back it up because I think actually heard the big it can't come to fruition number one what I would stall. I told your cowardice that they are combined output the proper look at what you number one text I started at patriots look at what you number one next to burst routers. For the browns and they're like oh I got to meet you like no way right it appears that in the case. Not only the number one overall they wanna number one next year something like that which is what Bob is being floated around the the other they have heard players. The bill O'Brien. Basically hates Brock got Wyler in public told me they would get rid and it even if they had to eat the 99 dollar cap that they don't eat that I don't believe that. He got rid of a bit and it sure seems like it that he didn't want Obama roster whether there's a great supple. You know with all these other moves floating around the NFL is there any certain moves that another team is made. That is a really stuck out you have something terrible really improved on this year or heard just something like the Brock got smaller traded that's probably the most notable move. But is there any other big moves that you thank you denial and. Well we don't know what admirably at right I mean how that happened that he laid it out and. Nothing nothing new nothing new and all no relief slow trade. If they go if he goes to Houston I think that's a big deal and I think effect could be a really. You know that could really make the taxes. Players may have seen the defense is really good you know they can now score some points. Think they wanna go without savage out. Actually that person it's all about the bill right not liking opera also told me that they really like that that schooling or you know they think that you can place so. I think you know one of the things I think Brandon Marshall go to that guy is the I. To put him. That you put him opposite of that back and you're here with sterling Shepperd in the slot and you have the liked her own dorm. I think that they. At the formidable match there you know I didn't have to be not because it is oh my god. Ray Marshall so great with a lot of all that the number one guy you know New York any attacker that Gregg Marshall get most of the coverage. Replicate sit in in New York now any of the art I think that's a really nice move. Straight out. You know I I'd like be aggressive approach that the four battered that you're ready to Google to show it shall we hold you know they're they're usually election and football guys. When you're super bat delicate matter have been the trying to rebuild want to put try to get it he tried all brought in baseball is back after. You know you get it you can take the steps you can cite some guys. The other going out there or signing players they. Like Pierre are solid and I she argued sicken our marquis went let you know that at republic and expect them to go their accent overnight I think they'll think they have. No issues there where they need to do approach but I like be aggressive approach that would an offensive coach it's gonna try to utilize those weapons. So you know I respect what they're doing that in a delicate legal at a couple receivers out shot every right straight in lopsided or Torre's. Yet that I went. You know what that's done my part to play itself out breed products over the years that generally the team that. We didn't have spending spree did not win in the regular season but there are sincere I think that improve their club for sure. So I'm interested in Europe I guess opinion or thoughts about two things one. You know how I guess surprised were you that the bills Bora is active is they were really it in net. Portion of the legal tampering period and today obviously being day one of the official start of free agency. In and Canada follow that up is is where do you see them what other positions do you see them potentially dressing over the next weeks to come because obviously. Everything kind of happens at once in the NFL that things go quiet in guys kind of you know filing from their over the next week or so. So you know kind of two questions there but I'm interested in your thoughts and how surprised were that they were as active as there were no wing. That they don't have a ton of cap room to work with. While they clear out a lot they had an eighteen million a couple weeks ago Bennett a few days ago what the 24 million of the restructured Tyrod. And then. I'm Terry would be a releasing of those players but that certainly with the restructuring of Tyrod. So they had 39 to play with donated today and I think people forget you know they did that for a reason to read a month because they were you know I am Islamic symbol that the write it because. Now molested him like it's never been about rebuild or reset here they believe they're close they believe they had you at a UR I played it. John McDermott is a super super competitive dude he was not gonna take this job. And say yep let everything down and be that next year you ought to be good he ought to make the playoff eagerly seeking him. I felt that they were going to try and be active now in everything they wanted of course. They went after music city get they get DiMarco. They after Wagner you know I mean you know the back and get everything they want I would not surprised although I think that this list. The clear intention of this team. Really from what makes tires on the carpet special when they start to clear out. And cap space here they thought the Merom based on cap space at a got a hat not exactly available to sign their draft pick. Before the idea they had about. Once he if you count those traffic so that probably down and fifteen range now they go up making they'll they'll dissipate and it is it about the linebackers. I think they need it by linebacker I don't know what can happen Lorenzo Alexander but I ask John McDermott it was an interesting response. I said are you looking for specific skill set at linebacker or that or versatility. Where he could just got to get some guidance even if that. He said you know what I think is he said. They can used to linebackers he's got a lot yeah. At street we talk about a fourth street but you can play nickel personnel lot this year would you put your finger they got literally -- let on that it is a battle now. Suck budge on the AT&T hotline you were down at one bills drive for the Tyrod Taylor and Sean McDermott press conferences is there anything. Uninteresting that really stuck out with you. From those two guys talking down their today. You know without their ball terrible that they weren't they are being shot as Liggett said he's the guy that. He's real good at speaking. To the media he gets it he understands he's not gonna. If I can give you everything you want a quick look at that but the thing I'm back that. Where content helmets and things like that once it up there knowing that you're trying beyond the appointment but what he can't. You know we appreciate that but. He also you know it's. You you're very personable guy tactic that you don't get that from watching on TV stuck around he got there early and became the meteor would actually it was Walker Art Center. If you're in the member's particular hand this kind of talk is talk about lighten things that he stuck around at the same thing afterwards I thought that was pretty. Yeah activated in that Eddie get the car dealer. You know I am. He said. That you know I think we it would clear today he wanted to be awful all law. He did acknowledge there were some teams out there that you know at interest but he obviously couldn't necessarily speak to them because he's under contract he said he ordered agent. It make it work for the bills that they Beckett like he said. You know there there was a lot of suck on that late the year with him. He said he learned a lot about that what item. I think that's good because there are a lot of lingering thing that could then going out in any organization about how that we seventeen handled. But obviously we're here today and it appears that's not the case. Sal I just one more thing I was interested in hearing your take about Sean McDermott because. You know being a first time head coach in you know eight people will say things that the buffalo media is too negative and into this into that but. I've been extremely. Impressed. Almost like. McDermott has been doing this for a long time into this a first time head coach you know. It's one thing to be doing your media appearances as an officer her defense of courting you're not doing that ever read you know. Three days plus once on game day putt. How impressed have you bad with sort of his demeanor and his. I guess six is seems like he's experienced guy up there are already in an odd that's been the most depressing thing impressive thing. For me about McDermott. Yea your right and yet he does not wall for the first time pet goat curry he. I'll let him Eric act that at this over many years right. But but look let's think about who he coached underwear he came from first of all think about college back like that marry. He can't be done to go to Lehman merry right to pretty Smart guy he's got that figured out right we talk about is. Background and wrestling and it is important because that's the kind of sport where really takes a lot of mental preparation. To prepare yourself to be the bat and he was. Two time state champion a legend in Pennsylvania I know people that are wrestlers were currently it's only like that guy alleged. You know and admit I think it's important when we talk about that but you go to palm indicate college coach. Whose name escapes me right now wouldn't you know he was very much there very long time. I got it you know mark also what are you Mike amen what he would tailor them. They go the F out its first job under unique freak injury. Her old Jim Johnson here. We get a job in getting about public is prepared and here's the thing I talk with. Big government is the GM of the Carolina Pitt I spoke with an umpire. Ask them what. Really about shocked in which obviously you at Carolina he told me that you said. It was on you that conversation about the salary cap and build on what you leverage here yes. Talk about talking with a coordinator about things like that Sean McDermott has been preparing is in your life. British jobs whether it's Bob or somewhere else. The reason why he felt like it because he's been doing it is a light is not for real. It's really that I mean your rights sale but don't just what caught me two days just how comfortable it seemed he was behind the microphone and obviously we've heard of before but. I don't know today does seem different he he just seems like it like a savvy bad up there and it's it's refreshing to see because he brings a completely different voice. Then you know the previous coaching staff Rex Ryan dated it's a completely different kind of confidence. That he brings up there it's it's not may be a boastful confidence but a quiet demeanor about him that I think this team is really really need it. Law and there in the press conference there was a point and Mike show in me that's when I was alluding that that's where the question at stump for Maria we are talking about it a question was asked a moment to talk about the wide receivers and we're gonna go in and another question was asked where it was like OK fans are wondering who's gonna catch the ball he's kind of like. You know just kind of an early exit will dwell on it but I answer that question. It's. It's it's it it's a joy to kind of listened to him as I mentioned it's just a different kind of confidence that I don't think a lot of bills fans are necessarily used to. Well here's the other thing. Claudio. I mean I mean it yet and I am not accept from my perspective Rex Ryan was great brought immediate a really good guy and I. I enjoyed get in a wreck and I enjoyed covering. What with Rex Ryan can I show. And with that site show came a lot of different things in the national media didn't even local media that the outside the people on the outside in the way they perceive buffalo. But there's a clear direction that this organization is right away from that they try to Hewitt at the day they are fired Rex right and the mood they may. Everything that they are mostly mostly because of what they that would Sean McDermott one point. And what I mean is now the National League there's no one out there as a carnival barker that they can make fun out now. I think that goes along with what you're saying you feel more comfortable refreshed. Knowing that we head coach it's up in front of and the podium and go to speak there at record against that and more. All right cell we we we beat me he's do you enough good work out there's a guy thing I'll say you need to say before take off. I'm now will be operating an important remember it will status that. You know lots of time and again it bears are patient they want results they see a guy that bad or back fire early out and they go crazy. Street and see just started today. It never ends that it doesn't end tomorrow. And the next month and the draft then those that again and there's more guys out there you have mostly guys are gonna sign that you know what you still have to site I only got ninety. This syndicate political figure out a way to do that we have to remember there's a whole lot of spots to go outside guys that are their rosters there. Yeah absolutely they excel appreciate it man. Our. It's a Karachi on the AT&T hotline kicking off the nightcap here with me and neat he Buffalo Bills and making it. Five official signings and got new kicker. Yeah noon Mike hi it's the guy that while you Micah Hyde a new Mike I've never had one before well as got a new and Micah. And they've got the two costs do what I do not assays name ain't no idea no idea. Right it was school suck I suck Eric turner from cover one about this gentleman this you costs too kotsay. And interesting pick up he would plead under one can CO yachts who is the Koran bills' offensive line coach last season. So there's some familiarity there and maybe that's the reason for the pick up but he was not ranked very well I am pro football focus one of the league's worst arts. I think yeah he was ranked as the league's worst but the problem I have with those rankings for depth guys. There's no I've got a lot to start at eighteen slash yet though the ravens sellers. It's decency that film there are 22 or something out of there was something that sale was just talking about two that. About Sean McDermott an and kind of the point that we are talking about wish on there. Is you know whip with McDermott. I think he's totally right about the whole. Media's especially the national media not having someone to kinda laugh fatter or have to point the finger at and in I think bill's fans were were just so ready to be relevant they didn't care if it was good or bad. That the national EV ESPN's you know the and a phone networks the these national media's. That they were just willing to date he talked about pink hair how. Yeah and after two years of just sort of really all kind of be in negative for them. I think they're absolutely. We're in need of that kind of coach that Sean McDermott is in. You know the national media didn't give the hiring a lot of love I think I solve most of them aside gave the bills like the worst graded of the possible potential coaching landing spots. And it's one of those things where I I am certainly ready to kind of turn the page on what has been the past two years. I just don't think there's really a better person that's going to be fit for this job moving forward and Sean McDermott. And I think that's exactly why he was Joe's for this job and by heats. Whenever there's a press conference now he's the one out there talking and not even gonna bring WE out anymore. They're not gonna bring. Me Terry Google and really never came out there I can be bringing him out anymore it's just it's gonna be Sean McDermott speak for this franchise. And that's we can expect going forward is that kinda guy and he. He has the stuff in order and when he gets up there he is prepared so it's it's good to see because I think that was part of the criticism sometimes is and what we are discussing a point. Rex Ryan you get that question enough fans are wondering who's gonna catch the ball he would. Rant and but all we're gonna bring in every play makers don't worry the fans out there we're gonna bring in someone of maple if you it would just went on and onward as opposed to. Sean McDermott was like okay I'm there at the question. But go. I don't really have much more to add to it I'm sorry that I don't know who I'm going to be bringing in here for the fans it's. I also there I will sort of missed genuine answers because now what you're gonna get a lot of is. Classic coach PR speak I mean how many times do you think. The word process. And evaluate everything. Like those kind of phrases were sat just during never really over the course of all this press conferences. I think you can probably get used to the fact that you're not gonna get you're gonna but Ella. But you know what at least. At least that is it in the words of sale won't be a clown show it and I think that's what I am at least ready to kind of mullah Bob run yeah the NL. Definitely it up 30551888. 550 to 558. Geary right gauging analogy here trying to shelf you talk about any of the moves that the bills have need in the past 24 hour starting with the Tyrod Taylor restructuring. And that and all the signings they got new kicker they got a couple new fullbacks slash running back. And they got new safety cornerback. Hybrid types of Gary thoughts about even the release. Of Aaron Williams still Aaron Williams a longtime bell who was released earlier this morning. Will be taking your calls on all of that needs got a lot to say I know so while we're going to be hearing a lot from him. All that more coming up on the nightcap this is WG. RR. Back in. Had to be back. Good thing back on track. You guys user. A winning team winning tradition. Committed to do whatever it takes its. Tyrod Taylor with a message to the fans on bills Twitter. And no not the bills Twitter that blew up on the this site to pullbacks yesterday. Real life Buffalo Bills Twitter right gates neat hearing now years nightcap. We're going former we're going for another. Fierce if you get them conversation U three O 551 EE eight by fifty to 550 and get after each of us on Twitter. What's yours at Lake Erie WGR I'm and Ryan underscored WGR or you can give us taxed. 55550. Got a quick call before Arlo you think marlin. And you know Nomar luck I know whom Lewis Michael Montoya likes or sex these days my Twitter trawl BM news bulletin. Power's in question all I didn't know if if this policy is Arlo not a well thought well maybe it's his names tend mature morals actually Tim we got him on the night kept him what's going on your knee and Ryan. Pate thanks to take my culture. Maybe it I think air Williams I think there was a big relief I know we had some health issues he reminds me of Jerry Jones had the special skills that he can. Played a road over the best idea and you know so. I don't know why we didn't try to give anything for justice flat out release and I want to get your opinion in old speak shall see what he saw the release just think that's a big blow to sit there. Because I know we know it Tara is known dorm office. But we need to bill bolster our defense in order beacon competitive in the division not to. Tim I completely agree idea I here's the thing though he didn't have value. Com in in in the reason being is the unknown and obviously the injury issue there's no doubt about. Eddy at there's no doubt about it that the defense was better when he was on the field last year something like an occur over the first four weeks. Points were like 18150. N a not like. They played really well when Aaron Williams is on the back in the defense the problem was Tim is you can't go into this season. With is legal defensive back help is you have. And have an unknown. Potentially being your best defensive back at not knowing if he can get through a sixteen game season. Ultimately I think the decision was absolutely a football decision obviously this wasn't he didn't fit the culture of the locker every didn't fit this that. Obviously he was one of them. If you set. A great leader a great guy in the community never got in trouble he never had to worry about anything with their blames the problem was the unknown is that he he's your best defensive back which I think we can probably agree at this point. Yeah he was likely going to be the back front to back. You if you can't count on him for sixteen games he's not helping your football for meal. Wasn't even about or reliability thing it wasn't a value thing. IE what do you feel all morally right putting my entire okay back on the football field adds I'll maybe a cup maybe the organization feels the same way and if if you want to go out another team wants to take a risk on him and did. They wanna put him out on the football field that's fine for me. I just as as an organization. Who knows Aaron Williams signals all the great things he's done for the community and the kind of guy that he has. I would not just feel right putting him back out unrest and having him sport beyond the blue and ride. For the fans Ford the whole community and putting him out there to possibly get injured again and it's just something that I wasn't huge today and because I think. He was gonna be a high risk to get injured again and I just if I want. If I'm Doug Whaley about Sean McDermott I just don't want to put those guys feel it's Marlowe now Charlotte really experience says you can't stop thinking about me I love and it's true he's doing my favorite usually it is your favorite role all right we're going back to the phones we got Johnny Johnny on the nightcap. There was little that. Our this'll McCutcheon a quick point as. Stephon Gilmore I mean also like you know I even me I was up and down on home a lot of the media war you start. Let's own the US as we get them out of here and I'll see when we picked him up. It just seems like Bill Belichick and you know the way those guys over there evaluate talent. And we played him twice a year he must see something that we see in the political moral and Butler are. Was a pretty good corner. If you look at even with holder I mean if it appeared that fixes the same as when he was an awful lot of previous sheer. But it just seems like he did more with Norton when you do it without. The guys think about that Stephon Gilmore are. Fickle artwork are. Yeah I think it's a really it's. A strange pick up by New England because. I had a friend who texted me this morning widen that pick up happened and he's he's a big time Buffalo Bills for all I want to college with Ahmed he was a St. Louis Rams fan at the time but he was sick of losing. So we beat gave me New England Patriots fan because he went to school at the two bills and he loved them. Because he has Marty knows how to feel about my patriots are picking up step by yeah I mean nor patriots might patriots as the wake up don't know he he he's not gonna grow up blood are. I was like you know what I think most bills fans would say you know what patriots you could have them for that price the bills we're gonna pay that price and that's. Kind of the way that I view what do they see something in on. Add while they're gonna pay that much money by its. I think if the year if you put that contract in front of bill stands before. It was the patriots signing on. Was anyone gonna save like all reality definitely brings upon Gilmore back for that money now there's not going to be a single. I. Signaled those without a single. No way so it for me it's like OK the patriots aren't paying them money they see something in on the usually get pretty good stuff out there corners if they meet him. Into a great player Ernie excels there but for him I guess I got his money and he's gonna excel if that's the case but I don't feel any. I don't know like Inkster ill will not the patriot and I just feel. Even in the camp of people that are like all man I'm so scared like all the cities internet's great player I just really confused as to why. You felt that. I can't be the only person in his camp that doesn't think Malcolm Butler is significantly. Better. It's defined Gilmore at the position that you significant I think is significantly better this one was Super Bowl three years ago that's when known and we Wallace at. It's. Like is coming. I think the key point that sale brought up that I think is the most important point. About the exchange of bringing in Gilmore in moving potentially he has been treated yet but the rumors are he's gonna be treated brand cokes or whatever. Butler the idea. That you're going to take a corner who is mostly. At his most success. In his own sort of scheme. Eighties always bet on one side of the field he's never met the guy that follows EG greens. The U named best receiver he's never been the only time he really did that was Antonio Brown when the Steelers game in town has become pretty much back and to do it should go in free agency. And I would've liked to see that match up in better weather. Because I think I think you're right about would've smoked it and and the fact that you know levied on bell. On 300 yards firms so. Bible thought process behind this is. Interested to see now if he just likes outset. If he is forced now to be the number one guy. Any doesn't have Logan Ryan or Malcolm Butler. That because. Yeah if I was going into this season. And let's see the tables were turned we brought in Stephon Gilmore or we re signed Stephon Gilmore. You had to find Gilmore and Darby this year coming up. Would you feel comfortable moving forward at the position with those two this seat RV EU and dark like last year. I don't feel. I feel fine yeah I feel fine. Would you pay a 65 million dollar to feel fine now you pay 65 million dollars to a guy like. I got the best corner in the lead got that covered. Me and know now I'm like well cool we couldn't we just didn't spend that money. How we can go get up a. A second tier corner infield just as good as I'd. It's just good. I would feel. Just is insecure. About my defense with the second tier guy making eight million a year or seven million a year than step by a deal or get a double that. To be a I think. A top one player at a position. Yet so I'm taking a look at you know own the remaining guys are still out there and how much money itself say the bills probably have like fifteen around fifteen million said to be able to comfortably spend it also be able to sign or draft picks about fifteen about potentially anti I mean you take a look at some of the guys who are gonna be out there still for awhile there it seems. I mean Logan right stole their striker Patrick Morris Claiborne. Prince I'm okamura. There are seductive mother in their rights to an end and digital point I think Bernard really need to talk about house like there's still these guys are gonna fall. And there are going to be sitting on free agency for a while that may be the bills eventually bring in have more of a bargain price or they're gonna have to sort it out at the draft will talk. Significantly more about this in the second hour because they thought yesterday when I was listening armed TU and it was during show open the Bulldog yesterday they asked your opinion about it. And your response I thought was. It's just absolutely dead. And the idea that this is a team right now making a run with a roster they have. Realizing this is the quarterback that has to do it because they're just simply isn't anyone else available but. Am however. I'm confused Ryan I know you're always could feel I'm confused because this is. This screams demean it and and I was tweeting with Joseph the sky about today in a swing a couple of guys about it. This one year deal. Rod your meal yeah essentially. An iffy iffy. Plays extremely well or the bills make the playoffs be the best structure young he'll be back I don't like they wanna pay me eighteen million next year maybe if he has. I just unbelievable sees it any carries this team in the playoffs and is back that I say okay he's probably an eighteen million dollar quarterback but. It and this is even appoint the Barlow brought up and I disagreed with him originally. But not you agree with I don't it's still agree but. I don't think that drafting a quarterback Chad is off the table. Reading quarterback at times yes and here's the reason why I even know I everything would indicate this team. Thinks they can win right now so that you would need to get a game changer at number ten. You need to get a safety or linebacker or whatever you want at a defense somebody that's gonna make it day one impact on your roster. That's not a core Mac attack not tyrant. But if this is a one year deal. And the best quarterback on your draft board Isabel but number ten. It's admit I only know good were negligent it's. Suicide. And not take that quarterback. But if you are making that push for the playoffs right here let's go to our I had ran almost like that I am not do you Wear and I don't think I think. And an eight day John McDermott is it's no longer today Sean McDermott side you know that he's not rule out taking quarterback hill and bought. From every I don't hit counter here do everything we ever hear from W Lee as you know. Bass player available bass player available bass player available and I think. They're gonna view. Depending on what transpires throughout the rest of free agency. They're gonna look at either like a wide receiver or heard. Me me. A defensive back in there gonna value those players higher and these quarterbacks I think I. Where I stand Ryan is I just want to know when this organization is going to make decisions based on the future and not just disease mind. I think that will happen. When people don't feel like their jobs are on the line constantly this but the drop has done. So much damage to their ability to have foresight. Their ability to say this is the decision were making for the betterment of this franchise and it's not just this year it's for years to come and I understand that this drought has caused a lot of pressure to build up a monks this organization and the people commander for the red. There's so much expectation people just wanna get this monkey off their back but. Is the ultimate goal and that's to me have to be the question is what's the ultimate goal because I don't see. Where anything other than that trying to make the playoffs this year. What does making the playoffs and losing in the first round this year do for this organization and do for Doug Weight I'll tell you what it does this organization. Like when we talk about the bills how much you have all about the back to the drought you have and H eight I percent beat in tiger conversation about the team. If they make the playoffs in the drought Scott. Change the entire conversation that's no longer there. It's no longer there is the backdrop to this team is no longer there that's the story of this team dropped and that's what it is right. Right now the story about this team is at its. The team with the longest playoff drought in the four professional sports the longest playoff drought in the NFL seventeen years everyone knows the number. If they were only make the playoffs and lose and nine. Move forward and not make the playoffs for another three years and then Bibi go through a process where they find a franchise quarterback. You're not gonna hear about that drought so much it just changes the entire conversation it becomes a normal rebuild it's it's. I guess the reason that I guess I'm so confused about this whole situation as to why you would bring back Tyrod and what is essentially a one year deal. It's strictly stands for me Ryan it's stricter release stems from. If there's just no way I'd bring back Tyrod Taylor in an. Pitching the fact that your quote close in your picking up players that are trying to help your two day roster your this year roster. Thirds I don't see a scenario where this team is in position if they're bad enough. If they don't make the playoffs I don't see this team in a position to take top available quarterback next year and that's what you're going to be forced to do. If you don't make the playoffs again half of your roster is off the books next year yeah all I know. And so now I have to roster are you talking about a lot of good veterans are what Kyle Williams Corey Graham you're you're talking. What you do that what was tropical what do you do it all these players because all of a sudden now. Your quarterback is a one year are up one year contract isn't good enough to earn that eighteen million actress you after that walk away from the contract for Aaron Taylor. They knew what nothing at the quarterback position which are not good enough. To make the playoff which not bad enough to get a top. Flight quarterback in it's the position that this organization has been for seventeen years where they're not good enough to make the play after the not bad enough that in or in position to take the top quarterback. And this is just a long game that process to me so it is confusing I'm not mad at it because he's the lowest paid veteran receipt quarterback. In the league if you're mad at you really largest heater are gonna take a break we come back more of your calls it a three. All 551888. 550 to 550 this the nightcap on WGR. All right and I can't make Gary Wright gave seeing analogy here 8030551888550. To 515. Two hours of their night. Two to three to make some times four nights a week here to be jar is good beats. Were young work hip we've got the beats okay R&B I'll tell you what. I love Howard but taste the music's how terrible. Yeah truly know the one day I was with him for. The bills. Kick out countdown to kickoff toga and I played like this progressive gene and the types on cash he. He was lob and really OK it was really about it I did while I was you know. I guess interviewing for the morning show gig I was in there for a week yet and during the entire week I was playing like. A Tribe Called Quest ish music okay and Jeremy was all about like every day Jim's back. Well that's like his kind of like Jeremy. Peak views and at Howard it's like. Cinema like war what man and the like I was getting all these two these attacks that tweets jams this morning on the morning show. And I was like yes I got brain Wilson on the morning show who played who belongs in the eighties these. The music anyplace does blogging he belongs in the eighties he be bringing my old soul that the top gun music by the very. Yeah he's got the keep aids at whatever dive whatever it. 58 bit I don't in the nightcap junior and the nightcap with me right. They don't expect that our culture. Are obligated for their respect all the guys were at the ball as well. I have never better business every lock there. An omen for the fact I understand you were decent college clubs and are restarted our ball is consulate her. Albeit not by improving. And also like I said Marcel areas. All of between the legal stop there as wrong. Airing. You know he doesn't sharper practices or team meeting. Semi dozen good ball or period. You know what are you guys think about trying to do something where either one of them or maybe bowl in seeing your tweaking it. You know top five receiver routes and receiver. That's that's format. Jim IA I I certainly don't hate you for either of those opinions. I him. I agree with the Yule log on our dinner lunch we are we are we are significantly. More understanding than just about any buffalo sports media member correct. How would say that I am maybe a year yet you're not always understood syndicate was combing his hair while while you're talking but no Jim. Are so there is is certainly an issue I think the coaches that this new. Staff has brought him. Can only help. Marshall Darius in his I guess what. We have to call his amend a maturation process because he's still. He's still I guess maturing as a man which is difficult to view at the age of 26 and he's older than me and I feel more mature. Then the Marshal there is a pretty is significantly more money than I do. Usually as more and more money and he's had me really I'm not saying that unlike no I haven't had a tough life but. Keys that I just extremely hard I agree with Jim the problem is Jim is that. Doug Whaley really screw the pooch on his contract well really screwed approach and that kind of gold's web my theory of this being the year DePaul actually it's approved that year for both of those guys and the bills have to make a decision whether or not gonna exercise an option on Sammy Watkins for its fifth year coming up soon. So that's part of the issue and are you gotta do that going forward ABB going to be like okay we're not an exercise the option wall negotiate. If we want you back here and it's it's gonna work out and then Marcel Darius you can't really do anything with it right now began that year contract situation and but next year next year if you do give them the posted June 1 the designation for cut. It's is it eight million dot cap. Which is the save act a cop I'd feel comfortable doing that it especially I mean as his persistent yet the same issues persisted and if it's going to be. In my theory where this is we these restaurant at the new G I'm coming in and he wants to really make a a big stamp. It does is it eighty some odd million and cap hit examples you'd take eight million to get a had a copy it and and it would be you be saving a million B casket at the meek sixteen million so I don't donate to the point either with these guys I just think that I would talent. The talent is there edit and that's what they're looking for right now. It's about staying healthy staying on the field issue the issues with Tearrius in Watkins are the same. They both can't be counted on to be on the field. Further own reasons Darius for suspension in smoking pot in for Watkins in in his injury issues. If both of them can be on the field I think there's no denying their talent on the field it's if they can stay. It 30551. EEE 5525 if you'll continue taking your phone calls. Throughout the night and talk more about the bills and we do have to talk about someone who got something on their body which I find very unfortunate it's no one in this room thank Gary. Rory it's my captain with the WGR. No effect rhythm rhythm with Ryan geeks club group called him. For the red shirt politics love the food the guy is cool but clearly don't look for The Who picked up. You're not gonna little clip in the flow of Hulu plus could still police problem. Back on nightcap and Gerri rank gates. Sun WG. Our bills. Pretty active today it's not something that. I mean the last time I remember them being really active around this period of free agency. Is when they brought in Mario without any loss and many laws and remember they had Robert Meachem and for a visit oh we have had Robert Meachem ignorant is that yet to mole. Back at about and what. Big time law they got the league two years later he was out of the league shortly after that was like people like other bells could not DJ gay and indeed we have Mario Williams and town in Robert Meachem why now. Remember when that Mario Williams stuff happened because that hole. Season before that Mario Williams coming up to be free agent and it was being reported that the taxes and bring them back remaining college huge bills fans season ticket elderly leads. You blue red and blue you know and telling me all year long. The bills. To bring in Mario Williams next year the brain and Mario Williams. You come. Are you kidding he's he's almost that's almost as impressive as the guy that called the Brock DOS Weiler trade on rent it. Yes I was like dude are you kidding me that not only the bills are now ringing in Mario Williams and to this day he he will still bring them now because. He was writes I was wrong and now. In times. There's got to tweet it here to WGR. Really liked it and and Austin but it was pretty much. I don't have that name in front of me. It is just and Michael this is is named Austin Michael we and the drought eagle back to being the team with the most Super Bowl losses. We have what was Iraq losses. It's it's often the vikings with four. It's not great if that's what I rather be the team in the Super Bowl losses of the one most consecutive. Playoff less seasons mean that that tough though that the Super Bowl losses aren't going anywhere in the drought can go away so all albeit the team with the Super Bowl losses. It's the droughts. Get out alive while though it's alive and well right now the drop enough and bullets these bills suitable losses stick around so I guess I would rather be back. Nate. So easy even even fairly calm the foyer hasn't really really come at you yeah it seem you seemed subdued what's going on there. It. I think I thought that you know are the conversation we had last hour about it was kind of my thoughts that's where I kinda sit on just. I just don't know. They put in they basically put this whole situation. Into a situation that I can't be mad at my column IA or any other bills fans supposed to be mad at. At the fact that Tyrod Taylor is back making ten million on the cap next year it's. I like is that I think you have to really hate the team or you really just have to be as cynic and nothing makes you happy. If you can't at least enjoy the fact that they were able to restructure discount frequent every one said they wouldn't be able to. My whole thing is. I still am confused I don't understand the direction which is they're trying to take this team. I think that they don't necessarily have the ability to look at themselves. In the Mir unbiased Lee and say that they are. Close 'cause I just don't think they are close. Especially with the schedule next year that's the one thing that it. That's like another aspect of this thing that I guess I just don't really understand even mores how they can look at the schedule and say yes. We are close. Because they'll wait I look at Vienna well. And you you might be different than the in this aspect like the way to look at the NFL bears. Your your top top team got the patriots. The whole who else would you consider the top top teams the patriots falcons. Seattle's. The owners dealers. That's more stop. And you got your bottom teams the browns. 49ers. And bears. And Tony got. Everyone else I can save you got everyone else so I really look at the schedule and I understand people's like you get the AFC west and the AFC or NFC south. And those are gonna be too difficult divisions. But I just think it. They are right there in the raiders game the raiders game wasn't far away with this team with Rex Ryan coaching it. If you're right there with the Seattle Seahawks and I just think. It's it's not. So simple to be like god is its. Just think the talent in this league gets sole it's also similar opinion I think Kansas City Chiefs are back but still I just really don't. And authorities Al Smith as their quarterback I've bull ball leave at the Buffalo Bills can beat them. I'll believe it told Al until they have Tony Romo was there cornerback. I would say that I think that when you talk about Kansas City you talk about I think they've loaded roster. Anchored loaded a lot of positions specifically in the defenses out of all of their defensive back feels really good. They've got to let people walk because they've had to pay other people they just. But when you look at it I think they made a huge mistake. Paying air fares and Eric Berry the money needed to be huge mistake. Bombed those kind of deals you'd never wanna be the team that's paying the player the most of his position and I stand by that and I still think that. I don't care what position it is other than quarterback in even in some cases you can. Look at the falcons and at the falcons the ravens. Joseph Flacco as the highest paid quarterback in league this year. I had. She now. It's. I they've had the ability to go and pick up players obviously they got Tony Jefferson they've got air what do they got lashing they've got a nice defensive back core they've got some. Nice guy receiver and the impact of a receiver this year we'll. Like someone with a big name to. They were going after Brandon Marshall maybe that's there was but they didn't get him then again look at him now. Nobody. I guess my point is Brian is. I'm just the type of person that. All though I'm still young. When you think about my experiences bills fan. I still look at it as I aimed at least a little bit concerned that I just haven't had an organization or. At a time in this organization during this trial where they said we're. We need to do something different I just like to do the same thing every year and expect different results they you can. If you're ugly you can wears much make up as you want. In May be disguised it for a little while but at the end of the day after a long day at work that make it's gonna start smearing and now. He's gonna come out and ideally the ugly always comes out when it's the bills what if the ugly comes out if the bills can just cover up that ugly for a long enough in one season and push it. When I when I think about the schedule at since I I think about. The schedule and I think about the schedule this year and people like Arizona week three that's gonna be real tough game. Turn Ottawa. And I wasn't this guy. The bears a couple years ago opening date and I was like all the bears as the bears are gonna be real good this year with Cutler and Marshall and Jeff Reed gonna be gut it. Another one. Team just every single year there's teams like at the Bengals the Bengals this past year the angles are on the schedule again. And the Bengals as bad maybe they turn it around this this year but I'd just I'd is viewed those teams that are like in between. The bills are always right there and I just there's. Always a few plays in every single game and may be. I've probably been super all full year because of I don't know why let's me be wet. This new coach who is barely hi we thought about around the league when he talked to anyone who will tell you something about him. Maybe he is good enough and maybe Rex Ryan was part of the issue with this roster I think does Joseph dowdy is part of the issue. So if this coach can come in. We are not expecting like age enormous turnaround with the defense or anything just probably what he. I don't think you can't expect nothing that still think the personnel at the personal is worse than it was last year and they were good last year yet exact I take redirected to be significantly better or even better at all. I think is unrealistic and that's my point with the Tyrod signing. Is yes. You absolutely got him back at a reduced rate and again. I don't think anybody should be mad at the fact that they re signed Tyrod if you're mad at it. Be mad because you just didn't want tyra Huard all I guess I get it but the fact that is. The fact of the matter is they signed a quarterback potentially the best veteran quarterback there would have been available on on the open market. To the best team friendly deal. Amongst it for God's sakes the bears paid. Mike Glenn in 45. Million dollars you have no reason to be upset at the bills Ford. Picking up Tyrod Taylor at a significantly reduced rate at least for the first year. It's still begs the question of what happens after this year. And I just don't think there's enough foresight. In this organization maybe Sean McDermott change those things but I just don't know there's enough foresight for this team to be a sustained. Success in alternately. I think that's what everybody wants. Is that Tina works consistently good not just good for one year. And that all won't look they're back in the same position they got a right recent bigger every sign continued trust it's just. It's just all a lot to take a. That's why I think with this like Sean McDermott is clearly the guy that they they want to use and I think after it directs Wright fiasco there are looking for a guy who was going to be stable. They're looking for a guy that wasn't gonna be rash wasn't it wasn't an act like Rex Ryan for on the media and he was just gonna be. Completely study and eight I believe. Will be committed to this guy because they're not gonna wanna do the coaching carousel fitting words two years coaching three years a coach and I think this guy gets at least four years I hope so. I think this guy gets at least for yourself but an article but you really never do you know and we just heard from sell saying that. He's had conversations about team building and doing all of that stuff so I would think that Sean McDermott is coming in with a long term vision. And I think I do think Doug Weight these jobs on the line because I think Sean McDermott has enough contacts and football. But that the guerrillas could rely on him to be like a horse on the guys that you know out in football too. Bring it has personal guys as a GM do you do you have guys that you have faith then you can work with really well right now in tandem and I think it could be. Part of the equation moving forward with a cynical here before you yeah earlier game we got tracks on the nightcap travels Koran and. And other gauntlet Mick McCall. And out like. Agree with you operated saw McDermott and his Alter any. I think if they keep on the air for more than two years you would do a good job for bringing in the players that fit his. Program bringing in players that are hard work being bad at the quality that he's looking forward Emeka human to a good team again and I quite militant you guys are I when I'm at work and it's like to say that I agree with what he's doing and I like them leak I got a lot. And getting rid of Eric Williams is not really big deal to me or Stephon Gilmore and it's like to say that I think you're gonna pick out. When the little things you got so far and hopefully Ares I and that you and you know you're but I can say I didn't hear you complain to them back in high school. And I'm making up lists of what's got to. Travis who are which. Travis. Travis left you'll have to get after tweeters Agassi's. I don't go couple trap rather small one. Do you make yet upper written to me that okay yeah I mean that up but yeah I think I I would have to believe because of kind of the flag that they took of the handling of the racks right situation that the goal is I'm looking to be viewed as. These owners are gonna come in and to make these coaching change is good sound like a lot of the directive from. Up top was the owners get rid of the coach so I think they want to have this image that the aren't these. Meddling owners we just had what's Scott Scott seems as if the Redskins. GM. McLaughlin. Of McLaughlin that's one of the Laughlin that's a apron concept. I don't know I. Technically it's gotten a call or something like that. Scott Scott the core oh your ground your club Laughlin McLaughlin a creature that's how you say with a G and H and it probably it's just not yours. You heard your area here's Archie might percent Irish do. That guy is like he'd looks Irish so I would say it's mobile Laughlin all right so Scott McLaughlin was just fired as GM. Of the Washington Redskins and there's all these leaks coming out saying that he was released because the relapse in his drinking problem. And now there's other which is a smear campaign yet widget that's what that's what people are saying about their saying that was a rumor coming all the Redskins. Months ago. If they got rid of this guy that is going be why lose they were gonna use this yet so as a reason to do it in and out of the bulls are trying to look like Dan Snyder which. But potential Ian McCall and. I agree layup with McLaughlin McCall I was way off. Sells quality hygiene because that he looked as Wikipedia page no I'm. I should probably get about X is that what you would say it's not the ebonics. It's the pronunciation. Yep there's a cooler word for it. You know season better than Nat. You're trying to get out to me here. You're the word guy usually come with cool words. But also the the proposed a lot of look like that guy won't ease one Mattingly in all the time luckily. They can't they can't look that bad they it's impossible we'll look that bad it's your right. It's joke. That situation. Is the joke because big I think it's pretty obvious across the league. Most people feel that he's a really really detailed and I may be the best in the NFL. And they're just joke of an organization and you can feel good at least the bills aren't that yeah that is I would say to you like people like to pile on the bill. And especially towards the end of last season I think they really really deserved it and it. They're they are not doing anything like this and they brought in a new PR guy the bills too. I think views. This difference you can go in there make all the emotions that you want and their known conceive but it does make a difference. It makes a huge differences with how well the organization is viewed through through PR clients. So catastrophic. I think my my point in this whole. Area that we've lost track of yeah I think McDermott gets at least four years year to implement a plan. I think they have to get before yours. In the mean I'd even be the right thing to do but I think that there's been such an issue over the past. You were three or let's say I don't know ten coaches that have been on this team in this organization. They just haven't got enough time to really implement everything that you want a coach to be able to implement. And that's ultimately been the biggest issue for me and I mean I still think there's a lot of people that would like to see wreck trying to a thirty year. But. They moved on I think that good now got the right guy for the job but I think. That one of the points are really. MO kind of lost on the whole Tyrod Taylor situation is you know I guess part of me thinks that no one should really be upset. About the fact that they got a quarterback starting for them it's making ten million dollars annually well at least this year on the cap. I don't think you can really be met then if you are I think that you're just the kind of person that either is hater. And just no matter what the bills were gonna do they just wasn't gonna please you were wasn't please anybody. Or I think figure just what kind of person that one of them just to finally see them address the quarterback position in this draft. And say hey this is the best guy we think is in the strapped we think we're gonna draft him when he's going to be a franchise quarterback. I think people wanted to see that ultimately I think people were ready to move on from Tyrod Taylor it didn't matter what they were to bring him back yet. They wanted to see the future of the position not a one year or two year bridge guy NN I think no matter who you were going to bring in. It was going to make you. At some point competitive enough that they did. I think that there is a good majority of people and even though I think a lot of them are against that I think there's a good majority of people that wanted to just to see the bills tank. I think there's a good majority of people Odyssey that be just because. But there are able utterly gorgeous so against it I just I'm. I would be interested in seeing it I just don't think the other fell. It works I just don't think it's like people in the NHL in the MBA you can do that and you're gonna be guaranteed to get top talent. You are not guaranteed to get to that yet well that's true end here's my argument though. People say that tanking doesn't work in the NFL or that there isn't big enough sample sample guess what rebuilding is just another word for tanking. People Odyssey takings losing on purpose. Okay I I still don't think anybody is losing on purpose to just putting enough teams errors but. You think about the tape that the sabres did Tim Murray put together a team that was awful for the purpose of losing but. He'd put players on the team. Partly about Austin errors you know I don't but I'm talking about management making a decision to strip the roster down to go bare bones roster yet to be terrible. There's a difference and I mean that's and rebuilding I think even I don't think it's different. The sabres right now are in the rebuilding process. They got past the taking process it right to rebuild and hockey's dependent rebuild football that's the point and I don't think taking in football is something that. Is works. I just don't think it's I think people Davis what is she like Debbie what it comes to politics and I grabbed twenty subindex I would I'd like that a lot. I'd like to have the ability to take Donna Brock asked why a contract in order to get another. The thing is. People around here fans around here. They're not going to take two years. To went fourteen for Rian thirteen. Season ticket holders are going to re new owners I take it seven a nine. Seven and nine but yeah it gets. Compellent what if any race between 792. On fourteen the difference between 79 into fourteen giving you get a chance to have I've been the best player in that upcoming draft at 79 yet that she had to getting that I'm not disagreeing with you on this point one act so I'm just aren't arguing about the fact that. People do I really feel like fields around your aren't going to. 88. Stripped down like our network were guarding the roster were trading everyone prepared we are intentionally going to be bad you don't I want. And that's exactly what the Cleveland Browns dead and I don't think fans around here withstand that. I really don't why don't think that you who you were gonna get that either way way with Doug Weight. Right I think what you needed. Ultimately was someone that had the courage to say I don't. Care what your fan base has to think about how I'm going to build you brought me in two bills you hate to. Yes and you wonder what that new GM would branded that speaker rebuild as you might call it. Let's transition. Or you or or mighty process you know what I'm organization period needed someone to say. And this is ultimately think is the only thing that's gonna get this team this organization out of its current drought because they got someone on the tax mr. mentioned. Taking does work in the NFL in July. I must say about the coldest it really take they had an awful roster that was being carried by. The all time regular season great order bat. Of all time and then back I had four neck surgeries and he complained they had Jim Sorgi as a backup in who has Islam. Curtis Painter. But. I I guess what what I wanted Travis made the point to is. I just don't think there's a future. It anything that's on this roster right now it and it's it's disconcerting a little bit because you alternately do you wants a team that can. Win consistently. And I think everyone realizes that this team can't win consistently I think people just want a team in the playoffs and then. Do every guy do after that just get to the laughs I just don't know I agree with that. Thought process as well I don't terror it's a long term view verses a short term view and if you want to view it adds spinning the wheels and wasting your time. I just. I don't I really wish you restrict you strip everything down. You strip everything down in the way that the Cleveland Browns. Great great for us great odds as people who talk about it but not great for people who buy into the product I just had. A life changing tweet from bad Norah. Alia fanatics but. Fanatics and I wasn't X yet I. Someone just accident to fanatic taking you guys for having my vocabulary back while Ryan just couldn't couldn't do it but I knew there was a cool word and I'm glad that somebody used. We're gonna take a break your back takes more of your. All calls and continue this conversation as we go on here and yellow lab that welcome enough for you it's like yep you're listening to WGR. Back here in the nightcap bright gates and me Kyrie hanging out with the here on WGR gonna take a couple phone calls you on join the conversation 830551888. By 52 for the wooden box that Twitter box. As they are to be here at Ryan underscore WGR indigenous taxed by 5550. And start things off with John here John you on with knee and Ryan. A pretty big yard yeah outer pocket or break this taking mentality. Let you know how it definitely makes me sick. And I mean it really does. You mentioned that are ample air crew lock. I mean what a bit. They got arguably one about order back like yours that draft and their brain light up he kept that. He here that it that is it. I'll call places that it's like it got to work. As are the current beta that you know people are are talking about our big. It did not actually it's here that we concede that the holy. Knew who breathe eat and we're. You know you get checked art center Reggie right limit nor ever match that pretty much were two pieces that. You know we were jittery or I wanna vote for all your electorate the other one you'll barely played but I mean he debuted big difference makers that we. We see defense this year that. To improve and bowl under new coach and and those two guys getting into the bit anti. And he Tyrod. You know I did it what it is she Ali I think we're gonna everybody else feel that Al. I mean he's okay short you know against any. You know or what you're your ceiling might be eat by the right equipment that it at the expense that would. You know totally you know revamped from what we're used to arch. Yeah John makes makes the common hobby and John the only problem is though I just think there's too many holes. That the defense is less talented than it was last year. We just don't know he he talks about Paul Shaq Lawson and Reggie wrangling has never imagined and I I don't disagree with that right now. They they kind of are never matters harder there the forgotten piece of the forgotten pieces and one was first round pick who's going to his more natural position as a defensive back and in the other one. I can't first round pick raids on the second so is a second round pick and it's going to be. Playing presumably we got Corey on now or you're on the nightcap. I got a good. Not much on a lot of the conversation. That the compared then went out and I was totally in favor of the chambers. But it's still difficult compared to what you're talking about a hot. Just in terms of number one player makes such if you get a brand. On the football field unless you're talking about the quarterback. Top at one guy makes it different. If you look at. The first couple picks in the NHL draft here you're here they appear to admit it you know what you're gonna get it. Beginning missiles similar whether you're playing and he. The only child or whatever. And and helped Stafford did it but it the fame game bird college. We'll all to a certain degree so different from and a belt that. Lot of time even if it's the top three pick. You're trying to figure out how that players in a trampoline with an act bubble there's not a sure thing. Thoughtful likening or look at it if you want to detain. And let you could literally say this is the sure thing that the in the David is that the article. You're almost better off and football are trading down in compiling takes into getting more picks and an adult board. Which is which is why the grounds that the way that they've been doing it is interesting because they have bad just compiling those paid yet got eleven. In the next two traps got two in the first round this year two in the second round. A bunch more in the later rounds next year they got 11 round or 32. Round picks already next year's draft. So that's why. The way that the browns are doing it I find it interesting and kind of intriguing but appeared. Like the the Andrew Luck kind of point that was made previously. Is I. Yet you can't have just one player and and and that I know everyone was compares things to the patriots but. Patriots don't have to take to be god they discounts and re re noting they have the quarterback obviously which is the big key piece missing years. Track while though they yet they also neatly re well they cut Syria load guys like van noise guys like Cheney Colin Scott. These are guys that they picked up off weavers like you can't just at least strictly build through the draft. But. Core I mostly agree with what you said about the difference between the NHL on the and in the NFL and it. The collegiate game or the developmental game. Is it's like. Yeah you're still a phone call. Pandora all right he's just talking to callers while still on the radio. Anyways my point about the differences between the development whole level of college football or the OH dollar College Hockey or what have you. The biggest difference to me though is that when a winning team starts drafting for need is when you really in trouble in the NFL. For the browns say. You know if they pick the best available player not if it they picked the re running backs. That below ridiculous. But my point is is once you are able to start. Drafting based strictly off of who the best player available is that and that's the patriots do. That's quote the patriot way it's picking the best player available maybe you don't neat maybe don't have any deposition now. The patriots what they do is. Maybe they have Rodney Harrison are they a lawyer Malloy at safety and they draft a safety in the first round no one's gonna argue that lawyer Malloy is on a great safety. But they think they have a younger guy you can do just the job you're doing at a significantly cheaper price. Don't lawyer Malloy gone young guy and what that. There is a lot to be sad though that one player in the NFL can't make it seem like it can in the NHL how ever. The original look point I think is in a good one. Because they mated to. And AFC divisional game and AFC championship game. And then I get out to catch a game and. Those risks for three years and he did have a lot of detail on around him. He still doesn't have a lot of detail around him but what I'll say is sometimes when you get a player like Andrew Luck or Tom Brady or Peyton Manning. They have a great team because you have the best player on the field and all perfect. But you don't. Barring a situation like the patriots get the best player on the field at any given time. Unless the top the draft it's the same way about the NHL but I will agree with you it is much more difficult to determine. Who. There's much more to be said about fit. In the NFL than it is in the NHL you can get a garage you can get. Are really good playmaker in the NHL what the number one overall pick in health fit on all thirty teams in the NHL yeah. You can't necessarily. Get picked this safe you can't pick. On a linebacker. In the NFL that's a good outside linebackers 34 scheme and expect him to be the same type of player and the outside linebacker role for three effects. So it's certainly harder to scout it certainly harder to evaluate players at that level because the game is so much different bought. At the end of the data games football and once teams realize. It in both good teams do most teams that draft well realize that it needs to be about who the best player available on the board as the time not. Your most position of need you're not gonna reach for a quarterback. At ten. Because you need a quarterback when Ruben Foster or let's say miles Derek falls to number ten some miraculously. Okay. You wouldn't say well I really need a quarterback or should take the second faster third best quarterback or take the best player in the draft. Some teams would choose to the quarterback. Yeah no I think that's I thought they'd get a passenger in a tough to accept doesn't happen in the it does sometimes we get further down in the draft the draft position even if it's like the topics here. The top five talked usually take the best player available. Take a break here we're gonna take a break here we come back on get this tweeted that are speaking to us laws beating breast bacon priced tickets or take a break now. I kept us in the knee and WGR. We'll ask on the nightcap with a neat Geary and writing gave so we got for the last fall. What's. Or isn't technically the first. Paul. For offs. Its first call for us the last call for Rona. Last call for like WGR isn't it generally I like that that that's a good sign off. He did a lot like he did everything this is the segments the last call homes left and the Catholic and right so we got a tweet from one of our guys who was one of our favorites following bull plus race. Naked he he says I'm with you only do we really want to be really really want to beat the chiefs and angles neat what he's. I said a fidelity bank and and here's another thing so. And rah America chief first with the chiefs and make as well I don't it this it goes with this guy. You never know we're here it's funny he says see he. Still. Organizations that can't acquire the best talent even when they're willing to pay more in I don't know that it's necessarily the angles and she's. But the browns are are certainly one. I guess it's just one of those things real look at it you'll like. That sucks but the bill one point where that. So that. I would I would totally. I would totally beat the chiefs or the angles. Angles so much because I think there. Chief that's why should mostly the angles that they can take to be achieved that like Andy Reid. Yet blacks. This way that I view sports. It's an entertainment product via model that does help a lot more entertaining making the freaking playoffs again. So I would totally take those teams we view it as an entertainment product and not necessarily. Just like all the only reason you're in the game is to win a championship. I view this you're in the game to provide entertainment and all your players on the field and the people there are going to be in their four. Winning constantly but entertainment is a huge part of the game sell. I view of the game adds entertainment issue and be honest. I'm not sure the bills or sabres will ever win a championship. I Islam to be handled it well I don't I ask you wanna be entertaining. When idling when she image either team. Ever now. Either I think what it might take is like I'm disinterested in an entertaining product and yet the field. Accurate because the the chiefs are waiting entertaining in the make the playoffs every season you're the angles make the playoffs are missing earlier now. They haven't won a playoff game since before I was a life of me now. Lights at least they are in the mix Egan to a playoff you never. You never know you never you never now so for me it's about entertainment product and you gotta put the most entertaining product and field. And I was definitely a moment was approaching a guy at the protein guy leaking into the UV is approaching I do look like OT because that laws ought to protect. I think but I did it you don't you are one here at W I was we talked. Partly relative or a 100% take everyone else every other media outlet was just so against it and we're. We're the negative Nancy's here. And I think yeah. I know what the taint for the bills. The bills the sabres. You've got someone who was going to be entertaining year for. Hopefully. Fifteen years. That was the point you'd you were guaranteed to get someone who was going to be extremely entertaining he's been proving it in the past few weeks Jack Michael being the asked point getter since early February. So you got these guys in the NHL we're like they're going to be entertaining and nightly basis absolutely they're gonna score goals are fast they can control the puck. You're gonna get entertainment out of those guys you don't necessarily. The weight of when I talk about the NFL take the I don't view it like Astra it is me. Try to get the best player available at the draft. I view it as the way to the browns are doing it now which just acquiring so many packs that you're going to have this core of players. Hopefully. A lot of home if if you draft while it's going to be. Great. But it's it's still not a guarantee and the NFL is such a league where. A must have you have the elite quarterback. You're constantly having to re well yeah you're constantly having to re vote no matter what it every single team this in. Every offseason there is eight tons of turnover you're always reloading in the and a. I think it's Hosea. Think you might need to find franchise coroner that's when it comes down I think I think that's what you're saying. Yet when it comes down to it's the franchise quarterback quickly a couple more bills of rumors slash notes to go through more mole. Mo Claiborne AK Morris Claiborne actually think he would be a cable Claiborne. Former. First round draft pick of the Dallas Cowboys cornerback yes a lot of injury issues over the course whose career really has in its been able to. I guess maximize his talent I think he's a pretty deal to player. Being rumored to have interest or at least the bills are at least being rumor ran a net interest in. In Mo Claiborne as well as. Another note for Lorenzo Alexander for folks who have asked. There has been significant interest around the league for Lorenzo Alexander he has to have told his EG to tell teams he's only exit polling from. Wryly. That is. It. I mean it's great because we love Lorenzo Alexander around here he's like the kind of guy that awful people feel really can can I take him six million. I can't given six million obviously I'm I'm absolutely with you there you would think. Your your 33 and zero. Going out there and meet your money an element of the news he 33 at the eastern OK and heavier it at a I don't let go up there and make your money man it felt like I know you love your ball flown we love you here buffalo love to have you back. A man. Go out there if you're gonna get a couple more million from another team. Hannity man you gotta take it that's that's what field and it thanks for coming in hardware via a Buick and it's. And once you got anything we actually have quite a day lined up I got Josh Reed from channel four. WI DB love Josh great guy. You'll have good some good insight for us about the past few days I've also got them to butcher his name. Because it's like Italian or something and boss Scott Scott McCall. Some it. No Hobbs. I I don't I'm I was gonna pulled his name recruit what I'll pull up his name I tell you who the other person I have on. Mr. Grasso of buffalo rumblings to my what my good friends. Chris will be on that's also a key. Basically he wrote an article that gonna go over Brian on Saturday are that essentially he called all of most of their signings. So you're seeing that he's a psychic he's a psychic and I don't okay Michael. All of Kennedys are tracked yes. Spot track. Spot discounts botrus I was going to calms watcher but I he deserves a name because he does a hell of a great job actually going to join us on Saturday excellent work I feel that there is a lot of lingo that's. Always thrown around about. Post June 1 and and all these what I side even got GAAP. I wanna know I want. To hear it from the genius himself Iowa. I just want everybody to kind of so you're illicit goods are gonna get a lot of details are also gonna get a little bit more details but the Tyrod contract how it affects future cap situations. Right Ross are gonna get a little bit into. You know some of the other contracts that the bills have brought about a lot of questions about how exactly the salary cap works in when you are looking at contracts how they could potentially. A perk or. Help your team on future. All right ball that's when you're gonna hear in the nine Max is on Saturday. Full day tomorrow of course of WGR sabres have Blue Jackets tomorrow night 7 PM puck drop pregame at six you can hear right here. I WGR ESPN radio coming up next and if you're looking for the UB men's basketball game head over to EST on 1520. They are about to tip off from Cleveland aren't ID vs UV Indy Mac tournament tonight. They'll get a bull's built in holds welcome home welcome bulls that's what they do it applicable slow they do that made our daughter that's what it is horns up I said welcome. Welcome bulls that's Texas yeah whatever Noble's bubbles call balls how do 1520 if you want the UB man's best game. No I kept me in WGR.