Welcome back to the stadium like show when the bull -- buffalo new sports columnist Jerry -- Gerri what what is a Smart person spoke to do with a game like that. We can make this list that I did about this penny can help. Called flash Skelton -- castle. Tebow. Back. -- -- -- -- -- But you're at a -- wanting the best those set I could take -- back. And I know him from the singer back but I thought Grossman or both and I think I was told by. Pretty sound authoritative people -- that the media room and it was -- back you know and and he might be the best the seven I've played that that Euro stretch so I don't know artists compartment that you know -- -- -- on for years and you look at the there's 67 wins who they -- you know the and it's opposing quarterbacks they just never. Seen. If -- don't have that game whether -- be even the show up the world he he let them up so what am I saying all right if you're willing to include games where they give up a lot of points you could keep going for awhile. Thank you get to Brady or Vick be the next two but. Those teams each scored Philly scored 44 points -- it was in the thirties you know you know like if you're willing to do that. -- were you play good quarterbacks but outscored them because their defense lets them down to go for awhile there. Or metric that shelves of the world got -- -- here. Figured -- on us. Since wanted to -- an exclusive look at the debris floated shelves of the world beat and stop a good quarterback room when that happened last edition of holiday season of the year -- -- the world. I -- necessarily like to football team that seems to be a big issue today and in adult world like I don't know -- did not like a team after a victory IE you know whatever I know I like like dislike him in I get it on purpose of the season the season stupid you don't -- dead to me. And but I'm getting a lot of this and I think Mike Mike Mike started it -- what -- -- -- regular order in -- somebody might go to school -- like now I'm paired off. But it's is it what why are you met with. Mad mad they won I don't care claim the big difference I mean I don't care. I I think they're bad they beat a team nichols' home to a ten. It means nothing to me so does that anger. It's just completely ineffectual that they won the game to me because I am thinking about next fury. But that's good -- that's so I've discussed but if you just forget the twelve years at Wright or the all the money they paid burial ends in just want -- look at this -- team that might be getting better and trying to find some. Ray of hope here. Can you do that -- look and say you know. I think they go running back to be a probable. That you might -- -- years though -- -- -- enough -- I have a look at the list. And you think you might have a Pro Bowl quarterback Sunday in Gilmore we're talking about a franchise -- the last ten years doesn't have any probable is really. Who were -- voted to the first team pro ball it's like nobody one guy and his team who might deserve it is their center -- -- -- a lot. The law that in the days off watch and see in that photo him. Going off from the cart he's always smile on except those three times we're seeing that photo once it I was at the game. The first time he's going down at all. It's just it's tough it's tough to see a guy. Like that was a good player respected go to guy in the locker room get hurt again it's like to feel like their little -- you know. What does that happen why does that keep happening. I don't mean. I think they can progress like I don't know I don't know I don't like that that that came up very early that he -- to like. It -- -- it means something for next year that they can win a game like this and there's no evidence to support that at all these twelve years because they win this game every year. Said that the court why did they win some games like this where where where is the prop up progress because you're talking about until you get that quarterback. You took progress the good indeed. Right about the progress with analyst at Patrick is there were with Fitzpatrick you can win 910 games that were still there. Or I mean in a in my reaching here I mean do you think that they have a core. Of young players that you can build around for the next quarterback. I don't believe that this. And trying to advance the discussion a little bit he would kill well is coming I think Spiller is going to be Gilmore is good. I think you can start looking at that maybe they didn't entirely light all their money on player and Mario Williams. But you know the anatomy and -- them -- it -- -- complaints spread pretty -- -- -- -- and I don't think Jerry that there is any way in hell this team is winning nine or ten games of frank Fitzpatrick of the quarterback and almost ever. But how is that gonna happen. As the the Presley keeps getting better as the problem these quarterbacks get better you play better schedule is referred to earlier against. Teams and other divisions that are getting better and beauty is just swim against the tide you lose with the -- bird because. When guys come up. Their contracts were good some of them leave and then you're looking for replacements does do you ever get back even after ten years dysfunction that's. That's hard in -- two best players are running backs. You don't have a lot of balancing on linebackers so I'm not saying that I believe this progress and if you can find couple players that are pro balls up the with app the last ten years that it's something but yet at the quarterback I mean. I thought Indy was gonna lose the last two weeks and -- -- married for. That's that's what if what a difference that guy like -- are you taking any credit for their winning yesterday. Now you tell your style and I'm thinking my -- -- and I lost my best again with Detroit. Your thought about I won't play Georgia Jerry was partly -- Italy gamble my kid's college money on non Detroit beating the Indians covering and what happening and I -- -- that I had that in the win column of the -- -- congratulate. That didn't happen Jerry would ever tell -- to gamble wicked skeleton -- gamble period of -- Q let's bring Josh in go ahead Josh. These guys or had such article your point. I don't think that Patrick in the long term and I really don't think anybody dies but the white collar it would blaming at least for you know. For its after overthrowing. You know players I think it's it's ridiculous says if the weather for nearly one dispatch via its record searching quarterback and -- right now. Or chew if he actually have the accurate -- that the thirteen year out the old record everything like as -- a percentage of be around 40%. On the air when it's a real quick you guys are just talking about Eric. -- compliment. Had a -- I want to say I mean everybody out somebody next about you know. He did anybody here are some aren't so port. Everybody does say anything something on your delivered shell want that you know ought to fire and wants a -- Italy. You know wants that made that Patrick you know do whatever I think it's ridiculous that the guys had brought him Mario Williams he -- parts of the area who you know. What a lot and -- Gilmore can be a pro bowler. Our spirit can be a pro bowler according -- aren't yet is that our future left tackle you -- -- out there and Miami Heat building the court nuclear seventeen if we get a quarterback in there that can throw more than ten or fifteen yard you know -- -- I think in the next appears to have a team. Okay great. I -- -- -- -- -- maybe kind of stimulant that a phone call by talking about you know reasons to hope that they have -- gland but. But I think the problem is people gonna start like latching onto it. Brooks and Carrington rat on the knowledge those guys always give people more hope than is warranted date they could play in the league but in that building a contender. Around those guys pool. Who have they really hit on here that makes you believe that they're gonna. Start to build. A team with a value players and pro ball is. And really be illegitimate and how far we've now we see it's like we're we're we're where we were under which Iran but feel good about five and seven. He's supposed to be look in the B nine and three Bautista. That and the seasonal. Discussion and just trying to get in the playoffs as the sixties that really the goal I don't even their great achievement and -- this year I actually are. Even off I can do it I should be able to do it I don't even off I can do all that with Brooks and Carrington and all that processing anymore I think. At this point. The only thing that's going to get me to believe in them is good wins. Of which they again have none. It is December they have not. Mean you can't play good teams every week it may -- if they that all thirteen games against good teams they would have been a couple but. I I have to pass the question off to someone else whether Ron Brooks and Alex Carrington and whoever. Can be I just right now. I need good wins I need to see them right whoever they are in totality beat good teams and then -- imagine them. Accomplishing something that matters. And not thank you good wins against good teams and building -- a good quarterback. Any. Could this -- 00405. Again -- every game is won by the team with the better quarterback this team finds a way to lose anyway you know the Tennessee game. That is just. That's worth talking about it's not just every game to be isn't be blamed on Ryan Fitzpatrick. I wanna feel like the whole team is getting somewhere and I I just don't know that I will until they win games against somebody good. The New -- game was right there and it was. -- throw the Tennessee game was right there than there. Colbert breaks down or the Specter there if you want I don't know. You you have to tell me how good Alex Carrington as somebody else and while I'm restaurant for a while trying to play it doesn't matter. It does because now -- is -- -- has a guy like military economic team right. And clearly they got not only economic team but is it is their version of military have been better than our version of -- -- them. I've been cut by now I don't think probably well okay maybe or probably not. There's a big table which doctorate quarterback now that best -- I think. So no he -- cook could locate them right so that that's that's all of it to -- the will spend the off season Jerry this year. The neighbor Maria how many do develop I'm sorry I can't account be more would app or game plan a good win one of the went to a -- whatever. Brooks breaks up a couple of passes me blasts and other kinda had -- helmet will like completely off. And we'll talk about him a big carrot you can dance around to getting a meaningless sacked again and like will we really got this guy and that guy in the common in the comic and -- But it could never can trust and then. -- -- -- -- -- Because gonna get that will Fitzpatrick can just inlet is the second just. Not be here. More produce some new. Not happening. New -- work right foot or go to our ankle release point. By -- on the map by the way as they played twelve. Not thirteen -- much you wanna get to the point where the the miners are and another -- has since scored what. -- not a lot of points thirteen where you have a guy who almost got in the Super Bowl. And you say no. I wanna get better and I have the defense. And I wanna get better I'm not content with a fits type guy. Who's capable of winning playoff games I want a guy -- can win the Super Bowl and and -- heart or soul. Far ahead of the game you know people talk about Alex Smith come in here -- really. You want you want their cast offs. Missing any better than that I don't know he's he's been more accurate at times is that a better coaches. In a better situation. Try to get better but I but you know what and the reason I made this list today it was because. I'm not. -- as people start patting his defense on the back does that play a couple of big games against that opposition. This team scored 28 points and lost four games this year some I'm not gonna throw at all on the offense and defense failed. When they had a chance to make this -- season. Merrill Williams failed -- -- -- like start patting him on the back for nine and a half sacks. Anymore tonight. Was ready -- Schobel for getting nine halves sacks on bad defense is too as you said Mike against someone good. I don't know who's left but you know what shapes up as a a real big game like a road games at. At Toronto against Wilson another rookie. Well win that game if you don't have good teams on your schedule them what you need to do is beat. All of a mediocre teams and I think Seattle is probably a good team but. Just if that's how it is like 2004 was replay of Argentines in a row that are not quality that you beat the mall that's what that team did. In 2004 and we give them credit for that. And then -- Mark Sanchez and Hasselbeck efficient get 48 points to Mark Sanchez it was a joke. Here's Jeff next go -- Jeff. They guys they don't want. And you know I just it's gonna that you just can't look too much into that game they've they've finally beat a team the way they should have beaten a team but they've yet to put two good games together and and you know what. Feel good -- move on shall we which you can do this week these the other I wanted to make his. How did -- really get to tell his team distant water winning locker room feels like. A consistently winning locker room -- thank -- Bennett won in in twenty years and I'll hang up and what you guys go. Well. And it's easy to pick on champ works its its like. The comment about the giants that I made fun of what's what's he gonna Telus team mean they're they're five and seven that they got to win he wants to say how does that feel that's fine. He knows they haven't really beaten anybody. I think that the win the next tool. -- -- don't win the next two would feel like one legitimate good win. I don't know what a -- at the beat the rams that the parents are pretty good team right now and their defense is. It's really a tough defense Seattle should be respected and Seattle I just think better than the bills I think marshlands in front of the yards and and there again piled up to yourself they went both of them -- and I'm gonna call progress up problem out there right now. Is Marshawn Lynch not an MVP candidate. Well. Number the -- -- -- -- can't take it does not -- all quarterbacks know it doesn't and it starts with. However a team is -- player on the team is vs expectations and Seattle's expectations or expectations of Seattle or not. Super high so the guy like that would be more. Make -- impression. Because it's unexpected and -- people American. Arguments for luck and RG three rookie cornerback for MVP in Poland Wilson's. Wilson going to be candidate to -- -- but I think more lynch on that team that Wilson Wilson in the yesterday get a good game on the road it's like his first one. But in the records good. -- Jerry Sullivan coming up including Kansas City and whether the game going on as planned was a mistake 80305.