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3/5 Joe Buscaglia on Levitre, Nassib, and Bills draft needs

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    It's was Kelly what is good JBoss. Boss my right it gave the buzz to notebooks JBoss plus. Technology bust plus better on WGR. Sports Radio 550. Yeah. They don't five sun is shining. And this guy is in studio. All is right with the world and the patriots thing. Good to calls industrial 55888550. To 550. Quite days there were development. Nothing really well right I think we talk about what punt coverage and yeah I think so I think Ron Brooks was really effective excellent game excellent moneyweek adult and that'll be your morning. Not surprised at this right. Now I'm not and you kind of saw. The writing. But it put on the wall a little bit just based on how things kind of went down in San Diego we knew. That the bills looked at this offense. Under. With EJ Manuel as their quarterback. And they news. You would think they they knew that they had to win a certain type of way it's the formula that we saw through the first two weeks. Where they rarely limited what he did as a quarterback. They went with more high percentage stuff and allowed the run game we take over the turnovers did the the one of the determining factors of the game and and just wanted to limit the mistakes from EJ Manuel and that's tough. I mean you can only there's only one certain way game can go for you to win a ballgame like that and you have to be waiting for the majority of the game. If they have to come back from a deficit of ten points or more two possessions. It's not great it's not a great look and I don't think. I don't think that they've done that with the with EJ Manuel the cornerback come back from a a ten point plus deficits though. I think it all plays into the decision for Doug essentially saying OPEC. Now to into. It's the AFC east still attainable. The playoffs are still attainable in the AFC. And to be quite frank. He probably doesn't know we have a job next year if he has if he doesn't make the plants. So all of that played into it in dug around made the stamp saying this is my call I don't care have disagreements that's essentially what he's that. you make that you put that in your blog that he made the statement he eventually did say that he told Doug here's what I'm doing and eventually did say. There was agreement at that point half but he clearly made it sound like you know this was my decision and 94 in the gym here's what's going on. He said. Very he was asked if there was agreement from all fronts coaching staff front office. And his immediate response was I didn't ask for an agreement. Stuff that's that's a pretty stark quote it at least to me just from covering the team in. And everything that goes along with it but. I think. The fact that there are on the same page regardless. Doug had made it abundantly clear yesterday. That this was his call and his call and if it works. He'll probably save his job and he'll be the head coach and when he petite but the only way it works is if they get to the post season because they pulled the record on their first round quarterback in year two. After fourteen starts at which is pretty something that. No one really does all that often in the NFL I can remember. Only a couple of instances that it happened with last. Games then than it did with EJ Manuel now is this probably the best thing that could happen for EJ Manuel I think so but. All the same PS to deal with the perception that he's now first round Do you think they'll get calls in the second Joseph is generate a 550 do you think. That you know what you just talked about Marron in the statement and and that you know I didn't need agreement. Do you think he did did that because if he went to the GM and or the CEO. They might say well listen we draft kit first that I a traded up to get Sammy to help the kid get attention now. I don't know that that would I think Doug is just looking at this situation going. All right I know I need to go in the self preservation mode right now. And the only way that I can think to do this after watching. What what I've seen over the past four weeks. Is to change the quarterback and is it going to work out we don't know we have NC Kyle Orton takes place. Outside of practice it in the early portions of of the day. This is what Doug feels like will give him the best chance of winning and I was very sure to ask him. Do you believe this is a playoff caliber roster with Kyle Orton as starting quarterback. And he said yes I do think so this is playoffs or bust now productive round. Do you think you're you're at the game Sunday in Houston your your this and and you were talking back as you can see it on TV that receivers were clearly frustrated or dare I say demonstrative how much you think that played into this decision. I don't think that played into it I think. Odyssey I think that's all out Doug wrote I really really do and what he. Believes it's the best now one of the one of the by products of this will be the receivers will be a bit happier or at least appeared happier on tape. Because you saw instances. Many throughout. The past couple of of Robert Woods getting frustrated. With inaccurate passes. Mike Williams got frustrated a few times against Houston Sammy Watkins even me to hand jester early in the game where he's like that the Paula DePaula. This is. The that is not one of the important reasons as to why this to happen now. The most important reason is because Doug morrow is Hate this is. This is my livelihood this is my shot and he's a bit weird spot because not often when you have the preconceived notions of the certain time lines of head coaches not often do you see. A head coach in their second year Oakland excluded. Do you see a head coach going a win now I gotta win now but it's all. Brought in they're the catalyst is the sale of the team and the fact there's going to be a new boss in town in literally a week and a debt. So it all plays into it for Joseph is here in studio. Brought to buy New York's outlet liquor what's your outlet 8030550. To join us. And I'll go to chuck thanks for holding on your which you'll be here on WGR. Are you doing well this might sound goofy but this two part series. Last year when many. Stripped of their annual. I think the public that haven't. This guys not getting up to what we thought. So they turned around thought maybe bright drifting very I'll be receiver that might make manual better. Instead earlier rounds or however they're thinking. But mathematical dispute with they register today at this player they were gonna give much you can see Charlie that's what million dollars or in the the first common now. At the time and they think the reason they're called the probably the sector emerged here Studebaker probably draft another quarterback looks well. That's just who I feel about it but probably totally well thank you very much have a day. Well. I would I would disagree 100% decline in that they had had date that what they're doing is with four site. But they did it because they thought Manuel wasn't good. It is so draft in the first place now there's it they had they had hoped. Going into this year for each Emanuel of course that it when and if their minds when they drafted Sammy Watkins they had a lot of hope for him. Yeah write it but if it because just like they did it because they knew they quarterback in the second round at the that doesn't make any sense yet. Now I should limit the trait they should've done it they did it that got all of that they've got kind of scramble from here and see what happens but they shouldn't done it was a bad idea on draft day. And today it looks like a well the. Entire thing with Sammy Watkins is. That they would surround. EJ Manuel with as many playmakers is possible that's what really this is all about they wanted to. Make it as conducive. Eight as conducive a situation for EG that's up and we talked about all offseason and and into training camp. And just how he would react in public more dynamic offense could be with him. But what we saw is. He wasn't mean it just looked like the same moving parts from last year. When when they got out there and and the type of game plan that they were calling up for EJ Manuel. Well I don't think they went into the Sammy Watkins pick and said EJ stinks we need to get a guy so he doesn't think so that. I think they went into it saying hate this this is the guy that could bring EJ Manuel to that level talking. And but it just never came to fruition. This are hitting it much time they don't they didn't you that's it they should have. But they didn't get it's such a complex situation because it's all underscored by the ownership of the team that really not I'm not sure how much I believe that. They should be worried. Mean of Brennan's gonna stand or is gonna fire the coach and GM. Maybe I mean I think I think Doug Maroney is the most at risk. Of of that three you to talk to. And and I think he kind of feels that and I think that's why people the reports feel that with a ownership change to be honest I mean the bills have done very little. In Maroney has done. Well nothing in the league really you know he's got a lot to grow we said that coming into this year and sure yeah I I get that he feels pressure part of the problem and I mean this sincerely. Part of problem with that some might have with this move is that that's what this Google's been doing for fourteen years. Coach feels that. for the long term plan I gotta say but not when a couple games I get fired the next year anyway and the bills are over so well and and you get everybody's happy because you've gone to that like yours say we always love the next guy. That was next it will be an ex coach Martha Obama Edwards. Fire around Schwartz is the coach you know what like Schwartz guy he's that. And then maybe they'll draft a first round quarterback and we can sit here and play the game again I'm not upset about the move. It's just don't. This is how you feel on the spotlight. I. I think the one thing that interest thing is. I was listening to the Mike and Chris yesterday on the way home from the stadium and there's that is that You know usually the the move to change the quarterback. Doesn't coincide with the first week at the fans get really hot and bothered about it and it happened this time I died I want I want to disagree trying to Edwards was was jettisoned in week 20 J. P. Losman was pulled in week four. That is how it goes over and it was what were where was everybody really remember Edwards in week after week one. Was everybody going crazy guys or on benchmark and yes they opened up against Miami and I think he threw the ball counts on fourth was at the with the previous year were became trend of Edwards and make it true that pulled the this is what they view it just feels different because. We want it to a The difference is that I don't want it to feel anything as well that the difference probably is that people believe in the defense and people believe in the talent on the offense in the shut this team has. Arguably more child and it's at any point in the last ten years and they need anything quarterback and circle back discussed we're having look at the division the jets are meth. You beat Miami three straight times two different quarterbacks. And this is a New England is just awful he Miami's more and the Jack it but however that the division it's just wide open yeah wide open. I feel like we go through this with whenever I don't think this is legit I really don't think that that they they lost to somebody by twenty points are out I watch the game last night that was that was that they offer Brady but they also adamant their defense got shot the they did they. They didn't dress either of their boundary receivers and I thought that was very very interest and I mean all they dressed as fell in terms of the bigger target. On the outside. And real an dot samples were not active and healthy scratches so I've. I don't know I I wonder what what's going on in terms of this happening every year at the patriots and we'll put this. It's happened more frequently and it's gotten worse and worse guess who they play this week Cincinnati Cincinnati in Cincinnati. They should probably get crossed who is coming off They should probably be an and that case the bills and the patriots are to a three outlook it there there. Home game and knowing what it's okay it's and so I think they'll still lose etiquette is absolutely. The Cincinnati defense is very good and they lose their loss to the angles last year I think Greg he's lost once or twice that and that it's all been there the look like one of the best teams in the league. The cited New England always does this last year. They open the season by beating the pedals and the jets and the hawks and falcons for well that the slow starts every year. They lost to the angles than they beat the saints. While the jets beat the patriots are targets beat the dolphins 5531. The Steelers the last there were six and last year the narrative was. Has Brady lost it but they were sent it yet evident to work there's a three whatever this year they are 2.2 and one of the teams they beat already fired its coach. And the other one. Was the vikings party changed their quarterback who they like that the team that they PR There's no impressive. Game and that's why I think it's and Joseph it isn't just. This isn't just well you know it's Brady doesn't have receivers and all the line can't block. And last night their run defense was porous their pass defense was bad they just. 300 yards in the first half credit they're in teams have gone Darren over the years and got smoked in a night game but. TJ they just looked like on like they had no clue what they were doing the had to force the turnover in their first three games. Yeah and all over the line and they got they got no sniff of Alex Smith who just was sacked five times by the dolphins the week before. They didn't get near Alex Smith last night Joseph I wanna amid in my got a one time and maybe challenge houses. That's what can you tell us that with bills needed Kelsey. He's. Argued draft well anyway I Jeremy. And asked me. When they didn't drafty Ron used to think what was. In the draft this year. It was I don't blame you so mad matter what did you bring about the last trade. I've been campaigning for the ticket in four years is mentioned Travis urged Howard. There. He's out. My eyes and a book or. If you think Scott is find him on the team like guy. As one of your tight ends or Chandler is. I that the overall. I guess. Ignorance of trying to add a competent tight end. Mean Scott Chandler's. Solid they went to hockey route obviously it was a disaster army and work. They would of went they probably would have All that said. They have just gone. Maybe out of their way to answered a group I mean they've. They've added Scott Chandler great that was those though waiver wire pick up some buddy nix and but. Other than that it's been the hockey they picked up at her worst group of tight ends in the NFL got my high. What costume when it comes top spot in modern day tight ends they don't have a modern day tight end the they don't Atlanta is pretty similar with that right now I mean at least they had Tony Gonzales in years true I'd have to go through the rest the league and and think by. Burned out there in the discussion they are in the discussion 8030550. this guy is in studio Jim thanks holding on your on W Joseph big. Guys I don't wanna thank you. Clinton and her commitment to early and Wyden and it is that are different but in my And tomorrow that it all. Poultry camp. At that spot for. You and Joseph report that practice. In peace. All the here. And we thought in the preseason game and we. Even if pocket awareness in much better look at the opener at a bank camera under. Lot of bodies Recruitment here let's go that direction especially given what you would have read take away what you do you think that viewed Pat or proceed go to and that. Yeah I mean that's that's been the way it's kind of gone and I don't know that it's it was the pre season that was. Kind of the final crushing blow as to hey you know what if EJ starts struggle for a couple weeks straight let's let's were placed in here I think it's just. I think it's obviously the perfect storm of things that have happened over the course of the past six months and in effect. I think I would put less in the pre season just because. They didn't really plan at all and and the kind of erased a lot of the things I built from the pre season over the first two weeks. Because they they showed that if everything could kind of go their way. In any game they get turnovers their run game is going that that EJ Manuel could steer the ship correctly. But when that perfect game doesn't happen. What we saw the past two weeks have happened the bills should have won. On Sunday. That was their game if they had a competent quarterback. Behind center they didn't have that they realize that. And now there correcting it or so they think they're correcting Joseph here Stephen Hamburg next up on WGR red state. Left at home that they are gambling on the Internet as the Goodwin and stand at that there was a big geopolitical. And what he went up and gave up on him. My other question it wouldn't a living up to coordinator. There's certainly have this parents and we believe and I'm in Houston. And we just up the broke and at times. What are what are what are you supposed to do though if you're the offensive coordinator and you're limited to a very small box of things you can call for Honestly what do you what do you do if you keep running the ball just right just like Obama. Your run and do well they are a credit related to running a scheme that protected manual that's for sure. Well I mean there have been blowing them unpopular back and I mean that looks up and gave up what. Would you like. The first look at them I know it's not taken the additional. Looks like yeah well it's. When they're out there like okay you're in good to have make you didn't. Now he's. It never does not happen. He's just an accurate out of leaders do it on purpose when we get back gentlemen I've got some context on the New England Patriots. I'll tell you about the last time they were too into. And the last time they played the bills. Early in the season after two and are not long ago there's listen. Some bad news in the but there's some good news to us so little a little and that's bad news but a lot of good. Explaining this is probably a good good although let's get over there the so I think I think the good news is bad in the bad news we'll get to that last and the patriots to call and trying to win the Bob tickets pair of tickets to in silver bullet then Wednesday December 17 the first divers that are. evaluated dollars courtesy of Latin nations general content rules apply. Called 6449878. And collar ten. What a pair of tickets we have more tickets to give away the rest we caller ten right now 6449878. You can purchase tickets by the way beginning Saturday morning at At tickets dot com your chance when it right now Joseph misguided joining us in studio graduate your outlet what's your outlet and I think his premises. Jeremy says it's. He this going in the right about New England had to be a smidgen of bad. It's hot a touch joke. Of bad news drink during you're not aha and a lot of good news I think he underplayed the smear I think he did just that just this underplayed its image smudged his message okay. So mix of bad news. Go on last time the patriots were to win two. In season it was 2002 well. Day lost. Back to back games and they came here. Patriots to a two in buffalo. That game. This indicating. a lot. 5228. Well that was actually the bills at a third quarter they did a fourteen point and the it's sort of like I've straight possessions six consecutive touchdown drives that the game the patriots ran down the bill's all over and over again so they won that game institute when he patriots that who went to went on to. Well and full well they're fine so they only. They only lost two more games in a right here yet am lost two more game as head into the rest of the season. Yup that's so what it so what's this good news out of the good news. Good news. No loss by the with a Seahawks and 49ers. Lost the good news is that in that season the patriots were 222 years ago. Their two losses by a combined. Point soul. And the cardinals they lost that was Kevin games reasons related republic patriots as a late fumble. Like the patriots in position to win a late I do remember. Like those that loss for the cardinals got early eighties he got scouts if you Google. They then lost the next week at Baltimore I point. Penalty that they've taken it that's Google the ports up and crazy out some other. Point is there were two and two like. All patriots don't know their final losses were relieved he barely blips. This year they're to. Their losses by a combined forty points. Most of which coming last. Seven coming last night and thirteen coming to the dolphins. Last night they were shot in the first half and I looked this up I just remember this. It's the second time they've been shut out half this season the opens up about in the second half. They gave up one straight points the dolphins last night to give up what 2827. Rout of the chiefs. The patriots. I know that the patriots. They're not the same team. The window is closing it is then slowly closing many people thought it would close faster than it is it's still on its way down. But this is the by far the most vulnerable that team is then a long time even back to when Brady got her and they went eleven and five. Maybe is correct because I I got to rise when corrected. Gostkowski missed. A 42 yard field with six seconds left with the thing was did it would have had a touchdown. To put him in front and it was called back because of Rob Gronkowski holding penalty. And that eventually Gostkowski missed a 42 yarder with six seconds to go in the game so they had they had taken the lead with a touchdown but it was right now by apparently you haven't picked the bills. Coming to depict the patriots. That might be better than pick in the bills Norton. Well no idea that. I'm series because got a series still I don't know I got to predict the bills with Kyle Orton of course. In this did help out this Egypt or you're lucky to pick the bills or you know I can't go come and join join with this let's is got a pilot certificate the patriots Olympic program because I think it's just as relevant Is this a quarterback change in last night's game people saying like the division up for grabs what it calls her second you know folks Ronald. We'll directed to the patrons are do. Dangles this week loss. Tangled in a monopoly on which in New England angles coming off but lost. New England coming up up what kicking hue Jackson is knee. Very very good offensive coordinator. Item has lost to a three are at the bills A against the big guys don't don't don't take too but I try a little bit Eric you pick the outcome I know I'll let the Joseph picks the patriots are good at it until I went three at the bills win. Home jets. Win. Bearers. Where's. Broncos. Where Foxboro. In July and Morgan. Newton. Laws. At the colts went. Home lions. When schedule I'm not even done yet others I'm not even John this is the point I'm gonna make him win at the Packers. While it's great loss at the chargers. We home dolphins where they've lost two at the jets and that home built. That schedule can they not only are they looking as bad as they've looked in ten years. Is archer. In five weeks. They play the Broncos colts lions Packers and chargers. If they get behind they close the with a three division games but that's murderous and before the Broncos like. I don't know if you own defense like Jay Cutler Peyton Manning and Matthew Stafford Rogers and Philip Rivers in six straight weeks. Thank you NFL. Like. Dude John right. Can get anything the patriots I'll believe it when Honestly. I. I know Jeremy what it's always been look at that schedule but they don't have Hadley but because they've all robotic voice on the first play the point is that this is not the same page and I am right now I have quit they have losses to Alex Smith understands Bryant and a totally understood. Told and they also have losses to Kevin top. In 2012 they didn't get blown out like Kevin OK great I I've just New England has been dominant for so long I'm just gonna. Believe. That it and they can go 97 and still win. AFC east ought to your question that's actually take product and it's Kyle or no one's really take a sledgehammer. And take out the rest of the window if if it's opening to 2008. Hours Aetna And it's got famous spot okay Matt thanks holding on your I would gently on WGR. Gentlemen good morning how is that our group of the and media members that. It's. An army commodity got to give yourself credit. All I like and I don't think get a lot of I know you're for the most part. Have depended packet. I think whatever it would take. You. The other competitive equation. We've got these big we've got a top of the coordinator the question are gonna quarterback the question mark. Murrow and the Israeli question mark and we were talking about it last week seeing repeated over culture of their own to go out of our own. Well like that move because Totally. I don't he would be the all I don't really any good I'm going. I think equation. Security very people are your. And it helped that. We don't know if it happened really helped look like that are. could go ahead and is an Arab partners or go then and you run the rock and that looked like you got a call I indicated that it encourage. Maybe it was a eager. That's ask about Matt thanks Joseph. I know he's saying the opposite may look different I was gonna ask you when the offense change and I don't think it well I think differently here's what they will do differently. They will not run read option without. Because he's just he's just not that but. I think by enlarge their philosophy will remain the same. Because. Orton is known world they understand what he has they mean that's part of the advantage that they had when they sign him because they know what type of player that he hits but. With that said they also know what is limitations are and I think they still wanna go with a similar formula. To what they've been doing although they are not they won't be as afraid to open things up that's what is the biggest part of. Sit talk about if we believe. You know that the coaching staff was reigning things in. Or maybe even you know the tempo it was up pebble last year and now they're taking more time they're getting the personality and doing all that that's an curious about. Maybe go to some other plays that he had but he wasn't calling does maybe try and drive at temple to just do some things differently because. Now he's got a veteran quarterback in there. And can you can trust Kyle Orton to understand what he wants to do maybe more so that each yet and that mean actually executed but at least he could grab the concept better. Listen this past this past Sunday. Being left so many passing yards on the field because it inaccurate throws and that's even before yards after that even before. Everything I mean. But over the middle to or two over the middle right to Sammy Watkins that was just off. Mean how was the rose Robert Robert Woods had three catches and twelve targets. Well target. 25%. Completion percentage to rob points that's a joke and I think. If they had. Listen if they had Kyle Orton playing like this past week. Seeing him in the limited capacity that I have been basically routes vs air I'm thinking the probably win it I think. I think if it was. I give is just a early competent quarterback it would have won that game but EJ Manuel just did not play well and in the and play well either. But he had time to hit certain road and he didn't hit them. here brought to buy New York's outlet liquor what's your outlet 8030550. To join us. in Kentucky Iran not WG mr. this right ahead. Thanks guys questions for in the future I'll just watch it ought to play it does it feel like. And maybe. Each day a lot of those planes or cold front that checked into passes. You know all the stuff happened pretty happy with seven back of my clock in departed are app. Wanted to let you know one right there you are a lot of people situations where he checked Rollins as you point out total vote. Didn't make it I wonder about how much run pat called a quarter was was callable. I don't know what you Jeremy and releasing checking line of scrimmage looked know the thing is that they don't a lot of times they don't have to run checks because they'll loan package plays so that the play will be. This package and then when the team lines up defensively like this. It becomes a right and the all the entire offense would would know that it's like a lot of what place can be. I'll tell you that from what I've. Gathered understood learned you know let's put at number word on it. Manuel has not been prepared the way that he should be and when looking at. Someplace when timing is off. Right there's a way to forget which one it is fine. Is played awards like. Watching altitude Joseph we have to get the point where there things we look for so much them the timing is off like sometimes his drops don't seem to match his protection. Rights where it's like wait did he did he just do the wrong rock which you know it's. Sometimes tough to know but. When the receivers are out of their breaks yet. And he's throwing in the looks like two more steps still to come that looks like the drop it it also looks like that may be someone got beat up front and there and there's a defensive in his face and hurrying up in either because he's accused of back further. So there's a lot about this offense that has looked. Out of seen how many times over the past two weeks has been three or four that he's throwing to a receiver there even looking because that's not the progression of the play because there was someone in his face he tried to hurry things up. And as we've seen over the past four weeks. That way and there pressure he panicked a bit and he does not go through it is with the necessary to work the technique totally drops off. And so does the accuracy and Romeo Crennel who's on the defense in Houston now he knew that they don't awful lot of pressure not known for dialing up top rusher but he did against Manuel it's like. You know I mentioned last week it's it's like the book is out and it's the book but. One way to be manual make see the pressure coming right that get pressure in his face make him look at it because. It kind of freaked out and he's been doing that and whether it's calling the wrong protections. Or having the wrong drops or making wrong reads or were running the wrong place. There are things that are happening in this offense. Again from gathering that. That's why the change was Joseph here 8030550. Get a break talk more about the change and EJ two Kyle Orton. And how to usual approach the bills' offense and how much that might change we get back your calls as well on WG. Yeah off today so we'll hear player reaction. There would their reaction option tomorrow and get back to where Joseph here. A lot more certain with him and you're holding on we get here we have openness segments in the 9 o'clock hour with more calls. One of Vermont about a great perk of going on for you right now at WGR 550 dot com with the top dogs it was not like everybody has lived here is it's gone the Multiple times you know what I'm talking about. Absolutely delicious there on top dogs looked over real hardwood charcoal freshly hand battered onion rings made every day. 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You'll probably see a little bit more basic stuff and then once they try to sort of figure it's essentially going to be elect the first game of the regular season again. Where you can kind of kept the team off guard. Because they don't really know what to expect with that but. I think all in all. What CDs. Is them tried to limit what bills into on the run they still know that that's going to be going to try to be their bread and butter. Man and then go from go from there by. In terms of single high safety forcing them to throw. I don't know that Apple's he has much of it is because I think the book there is enough of book I'm Kyle you know he can growth the specific. I don't actually after that this I have no idea what to think that this offense I mean. I'm gonna go back in and watched the star against the Eagles last last week you know Matthew didn't already I'm yesterday get around it. But excuses right right right to do your job which but culture. Yeah and I'm I'll be getting into it today I think at some point but that. I don't know what to think of Kyle and I all I can go from is what I've seen in two they're witches. Basically all that. I've been able to seek I'll do an remind everybody who might be wondering. The practice for the most part in season are close to Delhi training camp you can watch every single. Moment that we're out. Therefore anywhere from fifteen appointments and it's the beginning portion which is individual and you don't see any one on ones against defensive backs or anything like that mr. street. Routes there you know practicing without a defender on the steeper sell. I mean he's he's accurate are those idiots of its stride but I. I don't know what type of guy he is right now in terms. Of being in with an offense and being the guy asked to leave them the 8030550. Charlotte and Seattle ala Joseph here on WGR. I guess sort. I own. It'll well but it's up up and do the right move because it's frustrating to those who can't open kaine able. But now lives in particular patent. And tension and it would kill let me. Go to frustrated single public record gains and other from Quebec. conventional and you know an in area of ethnic yet. And by the list that. We could've been more actively engaged in Apatow Egypt like There's during the well they didn't do it on our season the paper the data indicated it may not like our guy. And you know. Right now couldn't have right now the problem It's not very go listen I I know I understand that that's going to be a popular. The opinion on popular narrative about wanting to protect him in the off season I honestly think. And I I think this has been backed up by things that I've heard too. Really thought that Lewis was going to be a good backup for them they really did they liked what he did last year. And they thought if there's a to where we should Wear EJ Manuel went down with injury that that Lewis would be able to come in just based what he showed. But that all went awry in training camp the pre season one that stunk up the so I don't think they were trying to protect him by not going. But going after media a better free agent quarterback to I think they probably should have went after someone yes. But I honestly think that was their mindset going into the offseason. And that's why it played out the that. It's it's week five where you can I can issued the first moratorium of the season and from forum the bills were not meeting San Diego. With a different. I think that's fair Orton does if Orton is playing and it stopped trying. Rivers reports was carpet if you go look at the game longer the second half went run run run run run run punt. They knew that they were going to be challenged by the office they had three separate opportunities in the second half to get it within one possession and they didn't. I'm saying that the bills that I know they didn't and the chargers more afraid of them. The chargers when I know what it but if it's a different quarterback does that happen now that's if it's a different quarterback the score and in the is on the field and don't feel the way that they perhaps the bills for one plot and the chargers really trying to score points. I don't wanna say. I I moratorium on it before and I'll Houston maybe three years ago about your fifth I'll give Houston and not getting tedious and it. That team beat Seattle. By nine points. If Kyle Orton the quarterback. Or if Michael Vick is the quarterback and beating San Diego and it's spot and get one more call with Joseph here in New Jersey which he'll be right ahead. Good morning guys are saying today my call first of all I think it's a good week them. Not gonna get into the homeland you'll figure I've been call initial year ready to eat. Any group toward Emanuel scramble well that was obvious yet.

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    it. Yeah I'm excited to work with them. WGR. Sports Radio 515. Kyle Orton now the starting quarterback of the Buffalo Bills our Jeremy Matthew if you're here on WGR 8030550. To join us give us your thoughts -- what -- about the decision to bench eject. What do you think well we expect from Kyle Orton . -- think it gets anymore unless they say by the way it's not like a one game thing like. Along with a
    fourth for the violate let's say that -- -- by Detroit seek Kyle Orton . -- go in with -- he's gonna get what's that Lu biscuits which is. And -- whenever we get. Manuals the first
    truly were worried about it it would have been trying to get Kyle Orton I mean clearly they were trying to get a guy that felt was an upgrade. In terms of a backup quarterback but
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    WGR Sports Radio -- fifty. Make a change at quarterback. Kyle Orton who -- there. You make a change at quarterback and one thing that I hope we all understand it's. It's not all
    look. It's not always so I mean you know it. And the Kyle Orton there is under way Howard -- Matthew here on WGR. Now why annual it eat you up Howard let's go yet what's
    still be on the roster next year they might say. You know Kyle Orton under contract they might go out and find another young quarterback maybe draft the guy in the mid rounds QB -- on
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    the guy after four starts and expecting him to learn while watching Kyle Orton play. I don't expect much from Kyle Orton I think he would be better -- Vijay at the very least because Kyle Orton has seven the NFL starts on his Reza. But I'm not expecting much. And it becomes in the game to get two games as you get three games would -- -- against Detroit to go back to eject. I think once you've been benched EJ. I think you're turning the page in my opinion -- turn the page on Egypt and I don't believe that he gets better. By not getting practice with the first -- during the week and by standing on the sideline. Watching Kyle Orton run the offense I don't see how that helps his development. And it's painful to watch. And you might be saying Howard

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Morning guys then right is Matthew put me on hold the first word I heard. Were. -- was on. Graphic. A or Europe. Not -- -- you probably weren't sure the combined they drug test media. Arrigo what good are right. Georgia really Howard just over the story did you suggest the bills really could possibly maybe not draft a quarterback at some distressed. -- perimeter -- that army band. Amazing at what what would be the scenario that seriously for that to not trip to Quebec would just be that they don't feel someone's good enough or. Is it may -- there's only one or two guys they target and they just. If they go before that they wanna take them what what scenario to think. I think probably the latter and it if they don't end up with. With a guy that they believe in you know the can be a franchise guy and either. Eight overall pick or 44. There's there's a bunch of cream back could be targeting quarterbacks in there early second round of rain right where the bill might want to so. If if they really have liked guy in mind at NATO take him at eighth overall. Then they might have to rate back up to trade back -- the -- ground and that getting back Cairo will both probably missed out of himself. Mean they're there are still believe that the Bill Belichick quarterback at some point in the draft. I think -- if they don't end up taking one in the in in the first. Two or three rounds and you'll want to see more before they're fixed -- or something like that but. You know I can foresee any instance where the -- don't necessarily take a back this year because ever laid out last week you know. This team has a lot of holes that fell and hit him you know they can't that they can't or there. For potentially missed some graphics and I mean right now you talk about what they need on the roster. And -- sort of running back they need to pull back they need wide receivers they need -- -- debt they need -- guard is that they need. Maybe another tackle to replace Sam Young may need. Any defensive alignment they need your linebackers most certainly they need -- passport and linebacker they need quarterbacks they need is safeties so they -- they need a lot of different things resolved he didn't. So they end up not wearing a quarterback because they don't want a forced the issue and and I can foresee and not -- a little -- -- school of thought of having -- the having the rookie quarterback whoever becomes clear that in -- -- say it's 2014. If they don't have a taken quarterback early on in this draft. Having him come in with the team that they want in place before we get better so he's not destined to fail well. So I'm not so I'm not indicate one way or the other that that they're not going to draft quarterback. But I think I don't think it -- open and shut the case as we once thought it would. If you have any questions about the draft or free agency 8030550. -- it was about another ten minutes. Free agency begins in seven days five hours 48 minutes and 28 seconds from now mark. Joseph in your. But I guess I think teams can start talking to agents on Saturday the ninth and and the actual. Tactical signing period opens up the drop in your gut. I started that it is a few weeks ago I think we'll be trees a goner and I I read Tim Graham blog today he spoke to the trail of each it said. There's been no conversation with the bills no offers been made. I think that's another indication that they feel that they're just not gonna wanna pay Libby to what he's gonna look for on the market. But so in your gut what do you think does he stay or go. I think he's got -- it in my gut I keep. It. But that's not ruling out the fact that they could come to a deal with them but -- And I have been wrong before about about that let's start off by. You know the indicator. Which you know we're talking about cap space and what they ask them what they don't have. And also how much do you value because of this -- when you're trying to you know build. And the rest of your roster back up and not to mention that bear. Their leader on the offensive line -- would become a free agent after a neck and so I think it's like. B a a situation where you have to pick your spots. And what I mean by that is with and you'll be tree. Is he going to be worth six and a -- 77 and a half a million dollar. It's per year over the next warrior or can you find a guy to replace him in the draft. Is that you can. Could have side or a million dollar or less. Over the next warriors. You know I know there will be a drop off from from will be relieved starter four straight years to a potential rookie. By you know. How how much longer does that is that the paperback guide to catch up to speed when you got a guy like Eric Wood on the right side and potentially. According -- who who start off the year very strongly support a bill on a black sides so. I think that let Pete street to mean. I wouldn't be surprised -- became backed by. My gut is telling me that I don't know that the builder going to shallow enough money that look -- might be able to field on the open market so. The fact that they haven't. As of when Tim Graham wrote its article for the bulk orders that they -- -- even given him an offer to that point. And I think that excited speaks volumes so. So I think would be tree. In my gut I think he's done about well. 8030550. Joba sky -- this year Alan your -- would you go right ahead. They get more guys first of -- Jala in the ER free agent market I wouldn't waste a draft pick up full backward third running -- -- any second -- tech running back in and out of that they need. Our data -- -- -- that it needs I -- just a hop and real quick. According McEntire is an unrestricted free agent and it again go back to Tim Grammy had a note in his blog the other day. That of a real fullback is a part as a good part of what Doug -- is gonna be doing. Yeah I don't know according MacIntyre is probably my choice -- -- -- anything that goes to Joe's point is he's not saying it's a priority but the point is in need they'll have to address in the softens. My other comment is this it is every other question actually gel -- -- -- -- -- pinstripe all I see him a lot. He reminds me a lot of Russell Wilson you look at the two and they played a tool like I personally would take a chance on him. I like this Patrick a lot but I wouldn't wash my hands of Fitzpatrick. That as a backup but I would take a chance I'm -- net so there really weren't in a geno Smith just doesn't throw me excite you looked awful neck came and I know you can't base it on one -- I don't know I'm just a little skeptical about -- you -- -- a lot about some shorter smaller DiMarco I'm you know JaMarcus -- walking up on the you know on. Now I don't -- -- -- JaMarcus Russell. At the very -- right goodbye -- went oh my god JaMarcus Russell the very least didn't give a crap about his job geno Smith is a slight. People raid went about his work at it. Well order 260 pound quarterback nick couldn't move you -- it. 218 counties -- what do and you re the best of forty out of any quarterback become by that comment is ludicrous. I I guess that I was going more the work -- Joseph because I like I hear stories about how geno Smith. Would played the game on Saturday as soon as the game was over he would pop back into the film room and start looking at the next week's opponent. And later that night email all sorts of stuff to the rest of his offense about things they can do. The beat the team the next week anyway Ryan -- go ahead on that. Well I think the caller is. You know I think she said you know you can't base it -- one game but. But that seems to be the only game in reference things so. But you know I I like you know spent a lot more than I like right now for. -- -- -- -- too much out of that city in terms of being a you know down the field. Long. Don't appeal vertical passing him I think you -- a lot to be desired in that aspect that the game. -- is consistent on intermediate routes and he -- -- badly at times but you know I think you can make those growth underneath but. You know where -- quarterback for me really make their money is on the without a few pros work when you talk about a guy can't really move all are no doubt that is mobile enough. Like he can't really move all that well or you're gonna have to you have to stick in the pocket and can really deliver a strike don't feel I just. I can't scene there that. Doing it unless people medically approved. You know I didn't see all that much. Put him in terms of that aspect of the game. In an all that different games I watched and so I think you know it doesn't have that army just needs to become more consistent. You know I mean he -- etc. -- what for that'll keep that at all. And I think they're different game. A different type quarterbacks. And you know one obviously not much stronger over the armed -- the -- the other and you know to me I think. -- reps that's not a comparison I would panic. I totally geno Smith is that the top quarterback coming out just all year. I know you're you're not very high and massive and and haven't been for what they want what you said he had him rated seventh overall the Quebec crop after the cop -- you still feel that way. Absolutely and I saw him do a lot of the same that that he didn't want but it here to -- You know I don't really care much about. The guys that necessarily. Our and are missing because the timing is off with the receivers that they never throw -- -- I think that's just the part of the column by. I think Cam Newton. Did terribly epic Columbine -- based on completion percentage because people actually track the completion for -- nuclear spoke. Scrutinized by I think get the end of the day when -- when you're familiar with your receivers that's. It's a whole different ball game but the one thing I do look or -- have become pioneers. That -- and you know power -- high in the derived behind long throws down the field on nine route to fly routes and -- Egypt after. I mean watching -- that he was missing guy is by a pretty large distance so. I don't know I. I could be wrong about -- I watched about seven of -- game. And I saw that the Columbine. And I think. Can't release fade. I can I be all that much in terms of him being -- down the field -- that. Really indicates to me that he could be a potential fourth round pick. Or or anything like that so. You know are not all that -- enacted by you know there's there's other guys in the NFL that. You know come up from the from being. Not all that polished in college. And have really improved their arm once they got -- from pro teaching and and things like that so this is not a he damnation on his game altogether and become in the pros and and do very well. But. At this point from what I saw from an actor accused Specter -- just don't know that he's better than some of the other prospects out there. Joseph got a tweet from Paul I know you're also you have your draft ranking as a wide receivers today at WGR 550 dot com you're also working on -- free agency article with with that starting a week from today and the ravens signed -- they said they're not franchise tagging anybody else they have a number of key players trying keep. What about -- LOB their linebacker that's a name out there that he was saying they'd like to keep that up they can afford to keep him in ball Kroger. Maybe -- be is out on the market the bills are train wreck at linebacker is that possible. Well you know I think -- they have enough. Cap room. Potentially spend a little bit more -- one freeagent. Now yeah and now to -- that come down Q are there at linebacker or cornerback. Which is more important to into the defense and which which they tell -- ideally get their hands on more so I think Ellerbe would probably be a guy that that they would consider. I deal in in terms of you know it's coming from. Trying to sustain -- cut from the same clock -- of what Mike Patton like you're running. You know him being a Baltimore them having a ball being a multiple fronts. I think that Baltimore. They could be a solid precursor but. -- -- In terms and because everybody is looking for linebackers and it. If teams are desperate enough they have enough cap room and they can make him a very rich -- think and the they'll be able. Might it be able to keep up. With with that type of place. You just don't know so. I think is a guy that would probably interest them but be there at the dollars and cents at the end of the day to test that depend on the market and -- how strong it is or dialect -- -- you know more call for Joseph B Howard and an obvious guys got a good name and heroic job right -- Just a couple of comments to the question first saw every year -- the same thing about we have needs to drive me crazy. Secondly body -- that he was to bring in a franchise quarterback. And -- wonder what it would cost to bring a guy like Matt Flynn in the -- and free agency. I but they do and they have asthma seemingly as many needs as they did when buddy took -- -- three years ago what a Matt Flynn Joseph what do you think. We're not a creator -- -- that the trader -- try to try to trade arbitrary completely missed that when Joseph thank you would have straight form Alex Smith got -- A high to yeah I mean you would have to pay of that to get. Matt -- right you're -- and as well. Upload or more earth bit rounder. And by. To buddy -- only has six -- this year and keep potentially trade back into the first round. He's given up at walker quarter of -- it's the only way he's c.'s trading up. Trading up Vista at target that the young quarterback topic you're gonna get away -- draft picks or. The -- I -- that competed with partner excellence here. He could pity you could trade future picks right I mean if you you'd trade up Gurney Reynard. Next year you can trade picture next year's draft right I don't know according to exit. If you're gonna trade -- hard to move up when -- don't have much to give your trade to get into the first round generally cost you if you're gonna try to future -- it's gonna be a future first rounder if you do that year traditionally it might cost you just -- -- second -- that's where I've only just seen it lately you're given up you'd be giving up one of -- six picks right up to get reports that that's that's kind of well that's a lot you know to give up. Right he would launch a very. It if they want to move back in the first round it would cut probably cost them their second and third rounder. And then -- down -- pick but laugh whenever you get quarterback of the future that we don't need Oprah and so for Joseph if they get quarterback of the future at the end the day I'm OK with it. If they get their quarterback of the future I would still say move -- to guide a move up in the ground one give up the two and three they need a quarterback -- for -- If they knew if they do trade back in indirectly going to be get real comfortable -- you know guys like David Snow and and Greg void and incorporate Bryant -- roster because because they don't have a lot of. Spock who those those guys are a lot of thought well. Oh is that out of those guys right senior has primal -- bills -- tell those guys other -- okay I'll I'll I'll start researcher earlier. -- -- Ken Sawyer -- actually the sabres to know what. Order a bomb and kill Biggio. Right well we'll look forward to more your articles mr. this guy thanks for coming on. Thanks -- and Jake you're just not on cracked out -- that up for me.

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