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4/26 Joe B talks about EJ Manuel and who the Bills could target in the following rounds

Apr 26, 2013|

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Avoiding -- title and there's a movie. Built it freed up he will be wearing number 300 -- out he had our manager Jerry. So listen -- Carter was a Florida State got it. That they don't you can view other -- -- the artists think last year they try to get the Florida State numbers back up or exactly they. They sure did not -- big guy left -- they actually brought an actual amount that they didn't dress Charlotte well let's just. I was gonna say -- Sanders started without -- I are all here so maybe that what your ethnic and. -- you were not a huge fan of EJ Manuel on this comes from a guy who is a Florida State product yourself I'm talking about. So what do you think of the. -- appreciate what it represents to be perfectly honest. We've been clamoring for the bills you take quarterback in the first route to take its way. It is you know -- hoping that they haven't done since last and to do something they've only done twice before interpret art history that the take a first round quarterback now. Is that is EJ Manuel security -- ago but that for strategists say and I'm very much for a good guy. In the first editor say to take court record for ground you have a better trip to creating -- -- then you do if you pick one later on in the draft. So we've all been saying okay take your guy in the first round and deal with the rescue me later you and taking all the other needs for years. Vitally fuel the quarterback position in what greatness though of what -- you know middle along with suspected or her -- quarterback -- -- -- There are examples of those guys. Governor curriculum in in being a good player but you know the first round quarterback is really where. You're going to buy -- the guy of the future and if it doesn't work out it -- but at the very least. Sitting -- saying okay. They're making -- bold move. This is a positive step for -- right there you know that that last year because that we've all moved to side Mario Williams. But leading up to that year there is a franchise that really didn't make it taught -- but so. You know I like what are -- that. -- -- You know I have recollect and I don't know at all or cut back what the other policy how it translates Vienna so. Is accuracy. And the intermediate along areas -- something that. Really did not. Work well -- or debate. But he talked about. A guy back in covenant and be able to mesh well with what -- Daniel -- quite what to do a lot of offense. And I think what cricket ground that yesterday were you guys ring. Very true but that Daniel Hackett wants to have a different face started off as. A lot of different kind of -- back -- so I think that's what they get Daniel Hackett and out -- not let the coordinator in the for the fact that he's. Constantly looking for the next thing you know and you know trying to develop. They develop an offense that has a lot of different looks and in compete defense is there you. And in EG Emanuel. Well maybe you lack of areas. He has the guilt that in terms of being able to run the read option and or be able to -- to run the no huddle and and in Tampa -- -- -- go vertical. I think he has the built to do what that. The potential there if there are finished products in needs seasoning and and whether or not going to be doing depth -- field early in his career or be politically be doing that from the bench that could be decided -- I guess that I like what -- represented. You know if you give an -- that the group reflect any. Still a lot of things like what skews. Opinions of college quarterbacks is that their only really know what they have been asked to do like we know watching EJ Manuel what he did. We don't know what you can do so you know being obviously a -- product and brand yourself. What was the offense like that he was running and I -- it's one thing to say that that's all he can do we don't know that but we do know that that's the -- that he ran. Right and you know there was a lot of this direction which we've -- -- -- pull -- bubble screens while uptight and screens. -- but two -- and -- -- closed. The a big part of -- off but. There's also the read option. EJ Manuel could tuck -- and -- in a player -- out of any quarterback in the draft. EJ Manuel was passed in the open field in my opinion and he's got a big frame it do it I mean you talk about Smart runner. And that's that's probably is the strongest part of his game to -- it viable alternative I think thank EJ Manuel very good at -- But. You know it's. What he has to do. A whole lot of what you want. Of what you would see in the NFL. Any -- that much. Didn't collapse that makes the -- approach -- he knew it would occasion and he would. Mean I'm not gonna sit there and say that he was never accurate the interview or morality you definitely want -- He's a good court Utica college quarterback one game for -- reason but you know when when you look at -- action in the drafted. Try and break arrogantly been good at it like yeah I mean. A lot of the times that negative they're going to be. These negative going to be. Talk about more of the positive just because. Water make sure that your your getting the right guy for the drop -- so with the offense I think. General Richard did some things that you'll. General picture of -- doing something with him that militants in the air though. Maybe so they'd elect will have -- -- do some things that -- Fisher didn't have it Q a Florida State but. I think he's very good base. Of what might be -- that view in the same in the NFL and the bill will be able to look what -- Are jobless guy whether it's 8030550. -- on throughout the day and on again tonight. On our sister station WB yen from six until eleven draft coverage continuing John Murphy we'll have. Sabres hockey and WGR let's get some calls and we'll also get -- thoughts on what the bill should do tonight. With two picks in round two an also round three is tonight as well Luke thanks holding on in your -- -- here on WG yarder right ahead. I guess that's become sort. They're my attache I don't love -- they and they don't -- to pick at the same time. On the man like to pick -- -- I got a quarterback. Well -- circulation has gotten they could've gotten came player in the later around the if he kept on stock and thanks. Normally -- thought about that. You don't know Joseph I mean it Manuel is a guy whose draft stock was rising Philadelphia at second round maybe it's taken into the ones you know Philadelphia Cleveland among others it's select before you in the second round and anyone of those teams could of jumped up into the top. But ever and into the points -- you could trade down Joseph to 27 and when somebody trades up it's 43. -- goes -- -- Walter -- quarterbacks tonight show start that we -- 33 with Jacksonville. I think so just just correctly Jerry Cleveland knows that it's okay well. But but but yeah I think there will be Iran quarterbacks and it's a dangerous game play when he talked about or next you know people were. Tweeting me asking. Bill went down from sixteen since there's no quarterback saw war. And my response was don't -- you have to -- within the first fourteen. Of the second round. You're are probably getting two players spectrum. If not start right away he -- story or because of the -- the strap it to would need position. So. I would do it too greedy and in terms that I think. I think where they what they had -- -- they -- or back there for quarterback on the board picked up their pick them a letter. And in you know they've made the actual urged its new trade -- What what's -- 4420. Mean you're letting -- risk reward those teams in the early exit route saying okay Egypt and -- on the board and -- kind of intriguing. What that we we -- -- What I needed it doesn't the total cost nearly as much of what it into the top twenty. What's what's but. So the -- to be running that risk -- -- well they probably got called to do it. I don't know -- was -- I don't think it was necessarily work that it that they were upset other guys. They got whether you like the record they got the quarterback at the top of their board and they picked up an extra top fifty -- -- -- So. I think. In terms -- what the bills set out to do. I think it's. Big -- success. I'd go the -- got ripped naturally I go chase had to weigh that with the correct by. That that doesn't mean that the pills are completely happy with that because. They in their opinion they got the best quarterback in the draft. Now -- ethical and appropriate to use him in the right way by. You can't just sit there -- they are -- -- -- in the because political or what got you quarterbacks. Can't play that way quarterbacks it's a different position. And it ought to be great yet so you have to have record back plate so good for the bills in terms of going out making that start Lou. By they have to prove that. 8030550. Jobless guy whether -- John you're on WGR which already had. -- it was kind of on the same point I think that the bills could have traded down with San Francisco. And got an -- third round pick and still got their guy. You know it is a risk but. I I'd like to build. Moving down at first but I think they could have done again and still got their guy and picked up another pick as well. That -- it -- San -- trade up they did it's trading eighteen yeah. Atlanta moved at whatever they got their guy they got an active they got addicted to the next one in the second round I'm I'm with Joseph. But in exit last night starting get nervous don't screw around you yet had all the guys on the board and you've got a guy who want them and you've got two more so it's. It's as simple as this if you do that it's -- Cisco -- I didn't -- as it turned down because Tuesday -- Emanuel -- -- you. Find out everything is about -- Emanuel I listen to the station Ronan body. If you do that and then summary -- up and take your guy. Nobody ever knows about it. And you draft somebody else and then maybe they'll say all right well -- got a border laws Matt Barkley and they take Matt Barkley. And who knows which one ends up being better I like this for them the number one reason you guys just mentioned it there are no. Disclaimers they got the one guy that they want and they got the quarterback they want and they didn't have to wait for anybody else Cam Newton didn't go off the boards midway through the third round. In us that J. P. Losman because the other three were gone. There's there's no excuse to protect this this is this is on for this is just it's out there it's all in the shipped to the senate table on this kid and other people would tell him. That there might be nuts about it find. -- -- I don't care experts that elected you got the first one on that point let's bring up Bobby here next with -- and have. Yeah I played a lot of that's exactly what my question was I just lapsed. I'm tarnishing and ESPN stated that bill made no worse mistake in the first round them. He said it is kidnapped ready to play now and that he's years in in the development stage much one and only guys that opinion was. I just wanna say this this is not a criticism of -- action you can do this with everyone. He loved Aaron -- and we always bring up Jaworski loved it a lot like -- -- everybody everybody is you know giving it their best. Information that opinion that these guys are paid to give their opinions this show is on for opinions. If every one of them to -- like rebels that works out. They'll -- -- works out there wouldn't be on the show so. You if you wanna trust Rick Shea that's fine he loved -- made it even after mavens rookie season was Abbas became on the station until those guys beat patience -- guys great. And -- but he's he he continued to bang the drum for maybe even after his rookie season. John look at that Jon Gruden and and what he said about him after their quarterback camp and he said he's got a mixed legacy of Florida State but. He's the guy with the greatest portfolio of skills I think it sets them up to be a steal. So gruden -- -- likes the guy -- whatever it's worth you can make yourself crazy I swear by what Joseph says by the way. Did it all depends. What I. They had to do it -- have because this is the so bear of this of their baby I mean EJ Manuel as the tale that I've ever. Got away from this he has to. -- to do it and the thing that -- ordered state they had doubts about him is that he never brought it all together. And because I mean this was 88 guy that got recruited very highly. Mean I wanna be with that top thirty recruit up coming out of high school. I was looking at his bio Joseph they said LSU Oregon. Florida and bam we're among the schools that recruiting him. And he just for whatever reasons. Couldn't couldn't put it together her but future seasons at Florida State had. I mean last year and he was like subtle in the club and gave I mean belt the first I've acrylic while he gave manual really can play -- that. You balance that with. Scoring zero points against NC state in the second -- When you're it was a national championship contender I mean it is appropriate federal bailout of the -- nuts but it. I've never strayed away completely in -- this guy as. It all be all be essential elements. Of the new prototype of the quarterback in the NFL. It's just a matter -- if you can draw the best. Mean he's got -- got speed he's got the -- to do it. Now that they'll have to cultivate OPEC pellet into a solid first round pick of the quarterback and we'll have to see if if they can do it and I think I think it's going to be -- seeing -- First pro quarterback does as always interest they get elected this -- will surely be important perspective. Relate to the break but I wanted to ask you about tonight but he target. I think that if Justin Carter. There why are people competitor he's 64200. Pounds is on the board. I think he's probably a guy that they are going to target area -- because. You know talking -- -- movie hoosiers southeastern Europe for the bills. -- -- That. Hunter. It's the type of guy that. Has the potential to become a double what we're cheaper and while he has lapses in concentration to. He has that potential. While some of these other guys are number twos and and things like that you know -- and -- they've also been interest that the whole way. It -- or got to Tennessee you're a part of that they've brought in for a visit. So it by the way that built streak of the first tropics have -- an appropriate threat visited visits has extended to four straight years so. You can you can read into that but I think forty -- just -- there they'll think long and hard about Chechnya -- I think either a tight had quarterbacks. I bloggers people be what are that you -- and the other one will be -- tide had. Quarterback. A street -- or art. But I don't think linebacker is going to be the play I really don't. -- is it is then let them get through that that -- there try to replaced helped shepherd but I just don't know that they're gonna do it that way but you know all have a -- worker there are some. Are writing the column right now called called built candidates for 41 -- 46. -- all have a look at the positions of public guys that that what it should be familiar with. And earlier on today -- post by my date to mock draft which a lot like grounds to -- Outstanding work is always -- thank you very much. Thank you.