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It's not always I mean you know. WGR. Sports Radio fight fifties. And -- -- it was slots here and Carolina has McPherson is structured so. Don't closest in the first for a project and those -- -- myself you know give mix and supported me through futures for us and a lot of penalty at the top of rules that -- -- until the first time. I get the hockey moment because there are 37. Games. -- better 37 games games seven. Sevenths. Tonight. Games seven. Three games and go through games and it's it's just that it look I have enough problems with the English language let's not make it any harder that it majority is for me. Howard Jerry got -- with you here on W Joseph thanks for joining us 8030 -- if you and picture. Bills draft comments in -- opinions and don't get the hockey -- on the latest draft rumored off and bills that you know they've been consistently involved. In the rumors about moving up. The latest coming in the knock out from top action espn.com who said three different league sources in the past week you told him the bills are trying to trade up. Likely trying to get either -- -- on cloudy. Defense and offensive tackle Greg Robinson or watching Sammy Watkins. So this is true bills fans. Who pulled four out of that group. Why you should feel better about our our fans voting and our web poll this morning mr. like we put the subject up but WGR 550 dot okay. You know they're they're trading up these -- three guys are targeting who'd you hope is the guy they would get. 54%. Sammy Watkins -- -- from Clinton. 39%. To -- on cloudy maybe the next Bruce and 7%. Greg Robinson nothing personal against Greg Robinson Auburn Tigers on football team last year. Only 7% are saying trait up to get -- let's tackle. That should make you feel. Those people most of voting for because they're kidding right. Much at this point but -- its its its people aren't necessarily you don't move up to get the offensive tackle. Yeah I would I would not appreciate that at all they'll do to move up get a receiver. Move up get get out there if you run if you think he's going to be -- whatever that's fine but I would not move up to get an -- to tackle and honestly I don't know that I move up to get cloudy either. What was the last time. The bills took the player you re you you really want it I mean that don't you just. I just want this guy so that anybody that can remember last 51015. Years give us a call last time you had a guy you wanted to sell all. That. And they took him. A goal the last couple address that it would feel that way about Manuel maybe someday it. Look at that wasn't I've got all the traffic from public and yet last year let's let's go for the first their first round picks last few years. Redick and like I try to -- who we really wanted that year EJ Manuel. Cat -- we want didn't Kerry's want a quarterback via. -- I I didn't have a I don't remember having like a favorite of the group. When he twelve Stephon Gilmore. Okay would we want right there. That address a different question. What do you remember who who -- -- or the other picks that are out at that block I've got that the I've got -- history of the -- up for those years I'll read you guys around them like when they're on the clock at that time who were we talking about Gilmore I don't think we were talking about you work too much. Around him. -- There were quarterbacks that your right brain in Sweden ended up going and the we were -- high tech receiver yet to have president Gilmore it's taken. After him Don Terry Paul Fletcher Cox Michael Floyd Bruce Irvin -- callables -- Kirkpatrick. You know like how -- -- call Gilmore wasn't like. It was gets a good pick and it wasn't like gay. Yet what the heck you doing this guy I was on the board I can't remember anybody that we really really wanted that you don't give your favorite yeah because Newton was gone -- one elevenths a -- has since I was happy with -- yeah go to go to the -- draft when the Fed meets his that was picked that people were excited to get -- Who was you know who's in that group right after -- it was around and not just that included we want okay so that your Spiller -- Right after him Tyson. A little while Lula. Anthony Davis Ryan -- Brandon Graham Earl Thomas Jason Peter Paul. I'm just looking around pocono what Jermaine Gresham elected the idea of that of the -- and Jermaine -- -- that would have been a nice weapon out. -- -- Iverson recalled we want a lot of it was you haven't you you are doing every show that our -- it is have to -- Bryan Bulaga. Remember how you live on the billboard for a month. The big billboard that said please Jeff Bryan Bulaga. Tim Tebow went that year someone Tebow -- -- and you know. That's 25 2009. Angel and although it was in the -- draft does he doesn't at 2009 was made it right it's made someone in Iraq -- after that was looking around. Welcome Jenkins I think Robert Ayers branded -- wanna Pettigrew I like I remember Iraq about it it still wasn't. When they took -- it was. OK a minute wasn't god I've got to have I was and beat the drums for Iraq -- just remember thinking he was a better player but. Not that I was so that that decisive about it Mckelvin. Leodis McKelvin is taken in 200811. Overall. Right after him as Ryan Clady. Jonathan Stewart Brandon Albert Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie Aqib Talib. Joseph Flacco may be wanted to quarterback day year. Jenkins the quarterback. But but the guys right in front of them right from -- is Jerod Mayo Keith Rivers are Carvey -- Keith Rivers yeah 2007. For -- for the Buffalo Bills -- Marshawn Lynch. Right around there Adam Carriker Darrelle Revis Michael Griffin. -- -- Bo Brady Quinn. I'm just I'm not thinking they could have taken I try to remember what you want it to the remember years. Because the reason I'm asking this is. I'm trying to remember who I really really want an all these years but it took Donte Whitner. -- loading not that people wanted him maybe you wanna Jay Cutler or Matt liner because they went pretty soon after you know what not it would I'd be the closest thing. I've never really had a guy we're really felt that struggle like bang my hand on the table and really go. Get like you read like Philip Rivers yes I know we're all over -- the last time that the closest guy for me I guess would be the year they took Whitner and I would listen now get a guy up front its size up front. Not a would've been the guy can ever remember. You know I always I'd always follow his games in his career and he is doing in Baltimore so that's probably the closest thing that the furor that river is rivers there right she doesn't buy that have for something 2000. Four I wanted rivers and they take Evans and in the trade back up. -- if you. This is what's what's horrible the 2000. Four draft when they take Lee Evans and J. P. Losman can I read you the players that went. Before J. P. Losman now consider you want to consider that the bills picked twice in this group of 22. Players. To pick twice. In -- was. Vince Wilfork. Will Smith. Sean managers Michael Clayton Tommy Harris Lee Evans Jonathan Vilma Ben Roethlisberger DeAngelo Hall Roy Williams Kellen Winslow junior Sean Taylor -- particular FitzGerald and Eli Manning. You know endorsement of the draft Robert Gallery who was second overall and is followed by FitzGerald -- Taylor Winslow Williams to handle all but there are all replies from time varying degrees of success -- there's some really good players even -- for short amount of time the reason I'm asking all this. Am I going to forget that I wanted Mike Evans this badly rivers of course I -- rivers and I was every single day wanting. Philip Rivers wherever the bills picked. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Seven top six. I just wonder if fans. 'cause I think I do if you forget entirely. We ended up wanting. Because a full year goes by and sometimes that -- turns out to be good and some kind sometimes he doesn't want and I'll Shawn Jeffrey yeah I remember that. But I've been wrong have been right you know Evans might be a boss I just I want to be the team that finds out. I would signal and here's why bring -- not a again attacked whenever I watch the ravens and I hear a loaded on his name I don't necessarily think. -- we got Whitner in that trap but I I -- call thinking boy you know the bills -- had him and he didn't draft him. And look what a career this guys had so it's still everytime I hear his name I'm reminded. I wish the bills would have taken him again it's not. They took Whitner instead and could had -- they -- had this guy native Adam and maybe that's like the Al Shawn Jeffrey thing. It isn't liked what it does take with that pick but it's just she'll always remember. Like decade coming out of South Carolina I wish they would daddy and look how well he's doing I think you'll forget Mike. I think I think that's a play aggressive is a big career pride and admit maybe some look at it goes belly Japanese bomb maybe it's not that big deal if you love Limas Sweed and Limas -- ends up putting. Whatever -- with the Google it Atlantis speeds and James Hardy. I don't think you'll forget that it's because I have forgotten not a I think Evans if he has a good career he'll always you know where every heads up a lot to games ago. Should treat -- -- that was on the board and they did take him. Lima swooners the 08 draft a -- -- ended up taking James -- that was -- year we wanted to date the only kid -- that Michigan State receiver was in that draft his name is it DeVon. -- -- No receivers went till very late wrestled around the run down to Devin Thomas didn't Donnie Avery DeVon Thomas Jordy Nelson ends up being a pretty good one James Hardy Eddie Royal he was OK right is -- it was Jerome Simpson to Shawn Jackson. Line this -- on -- now from Kelly. And -- little blunt injury Jackson he's all second round receivers and a. I don't think -- forget Mike Adams. Now the Buehrle again and it's one of those players that you'll you'll always be tracking his career and and on Sunday. When you're watching highlights every time we see a Mike Evans touchdown will be a little voice in your Agilent. Lester like the idea Matt Barkley but I wasn't beaten -- just like he might be good I don't know why I don't hate this idea he's been good his entire career everywhere he's gone. It's been a lot -- set -- I don't. For whatever reason. I don't typically have a beat the drum guy when it comes to the draft. And you know what that's funny like the NHL draft -- I mean to beat the drum got this year. I Bennett you don't help. Don't like my drum beating has been the top right it's not necessarily a guy that's why I think for me the NFL draft Jeremy it's more about even though they do they're bored and bass player and all that stuff. For -- NFL draft is more about a position. Like beat the drum this year isn't you've got to have Mike Evans Evans great to get you run right even if you get markets fine whatever. Beat the drum for me typically in the draft does not about the person -- about the position like Dick -- -- -- You've got to get a cornerback Leodis McKelvin to bust he's not gonna be good look at the course of -- I mean remember that you're talking about they've got to get a quarterback. That was Mark Barron I think went to -- -- we had attacks that -- a lot of fans want it was the bill's love Derek yeah I wanna mark parent. So I think it's for me it isn't necessarily a guy when you beat the drum for me I'd beat the drum for a position. But last year was it right I mean we talk about all this quarterbacks. But I didn't feel that strongly about any one of the guys manual inactive or Barkley York. Whoever was but it was beat the drum because you know you have to get our quarterback. I don't care how you do it get a quarterbacks with its position. Not necessarily dice for me -- big issue on WG are right ahead. A good morning guys vote the one got a lot of that we are what went but I think right -- that they fine how -- -- accurate what. I think you what the or awful lot. And I thought it was then that -- perform right yes that was one pick before I believe right. -- Or they'll upload by about straightened up all the rumors that are out there on the open and guys get their it and and and and I don't -- really -- a little bit my worry is. Is that we trade out and mortgage the future and manual not that I let it topic we know what no manual or. I think we're just gonna be heard of it now or not and I -- 6 o'clock recoup yet not. But in my group that you were in power you pointing out that the dolphins only give up anything I know I wouldn't wanna give up next year's first. But I would give this your second time that's why I brought it up or next year second I think when we talk about Chris thanks for the call. We talk about trading up. I don't I do. I immediately think -- the bills -- moving up from nine your parting with a first round pick somewhere mere few essentially flipping -- -- -- you're giving up. Next year's one or one -- after that I just think you'd trade up. It's got a cost to at least another first round pick somewhere. Often ninth spot in the second round pick so. If that's the deal and I'd be more willing to move up even though I'm conservative by nature that's not bad also that's the whole thing about we -- -- BJ is worth it giving up. Moving giving up Dixon moving up. The question is if you're the bills and -- if they move let's say they move up and they're targeting Sammy Watkins. Perhaps one of the reasons the target Sammy Watkins is they think Watkins will give EJ Manuel a better chance of being the -- So I understand where you're saying Chris it's a gamble if we move up and Vijay is not the guy you gave up picks you're gonna have to get a quarterback. Now you -- you don't have a first round pick next year to use that on a quarterback but remember. If they move up. And they get Evans or watch insert you brought in theory they'd they'd be moving up to get a guy they think will help the development. All of EJ Manuel. Or even whatever even Greg Robinson even on that you know we're not a fan of the tackle. In theory they be doing that because it would help. The offense and helped the quarterback. Tony wouldn't tie into this but the other two guys -- so keep that in mind I think that is a factor. Doug Whaley said it again Friday in agree that he's he's I think he's absolutely correct. You know the off season. The moves -- making the draft is about the quarterback helping EJ Manuel progress helping EJ Manuel become successful in the national football. If they trade up isn't like hey guys. If Manuel bombs we don't have this picked on a quarterback it's let's trade up to help -- succeed that's out there looking. -- -- has just put up -- ranking. Three draft ranking for -- world NBC sports and -- pre draft ranking of every roster in the NFL 132 guy. Who's number one. -- -- -- Who's number two. Denver Denver Iraq Denver green -- that he's Lorie Kane who's number three. We basically is going reverse order of the playoffs last year San Francisco San Francisco. Who's number four in Denver play in the AFC title game at a Maryland February hear New England is four it is boring was number five Green Day. New Orleans. Six history and say yeah seven is Cincinnati rates fairly. The thing I noticed is like what note the great quarterbacks have great roster -- I wanna know what the bills are though I have not found them yet and -- all clicked out of -- where'd you go where the bills. Where's the -- overall roster stacked up 26. I would not put it that low -- like sixteenth he ranks them 27. The bill that -- one player. Would they be the third best roster in the league. They would be way up there I think what that defense is counted as anybody but what you what you just make what was your point -- 26 because. They're not I don't think they're 26 in talent that 126. Trips get a sense that they're not 27 and you're you're gonna tell me there's only. There's 2016 to have more talent top I think it does have more tell them that bought their 27 because. -- quarterback. And it haven't won in fourteen years. The defense is better -- got a good running backs they've got good receivers they got part of a good offensive line that got a much better defense they had a very good pass rush. They've got some really talented players on this roster so once that talent like -- -- there because they don't win the quarterback. There's these good news in this he writes that the 27 roster but you know and that page views as you click. 25 to 32 is one group of players wonder teams in that group. The browns. Bills play. The jets with a play twice. The vikings. Who they like. The raiders. And the Texans. -- is six games. Against teams that. He would also ranking is not good that's six that doesn't count. Miami who I don't think Miami's. Very good. I would rank the bills above mine bill swept Miami last year both times that the backup quarterback ball games. -- and why -- I mean does Ryan ten elves are a whole lot more credit -- If you look at the numbers he finished with really mediocre he's finished terribly -- You mean -- on that -- totally -- into the hills and sell part they fire the offensive coordinator because the office -- so bad at the NC's Lester I think and they will still not. I don't if you're -- dolphins and you -- absolutely right you be saying the same congress and I don't know if he's going to be an -- and a lot of talent -- running back they have one wide receiver and a at that -- like a magnificent tight end or anything right now I don't know why they get more credit I think the bills' defense is better. So that you in just want to bring that Nokia the bad news is he ranks them 27 the good news is. A lot of games against teams not that good. I got a guy that I one really bad last year and that Gordon fourth round and guesses. -- -- -- I'm on -- Tyrod Matthew really bad because -- like honey badgers because I thought that he was a first round late first round talent drop all the way to the fourth round -- It there was a study done not that long ago about guys who heads you know finger quote character issues and that they a lot of them turned into the best value picks and you could even say this for eagle on. An eagle on -- had some finger quote character issues -- -- goes in the second round when Bucky Brooks it is three draft. Yeah I'm going second overall -- -- -- going fourth overall I thought that Matthew at the -- issue like of course it's that thing that makes you go now. You get to that third round. First round and only guy there who could be an impact player in franchise if he doesn't turn out so it's the third round I shouldn't think since you brought that up -- are trying to think about. Guys like that. In this year's draft and maybe not necessarily for the same issue but the the concept of he's -- Then something happened and for whatever reason teams knock them down on their board and from Oregon. Name and now Joseph was. -- is gonna bring a text that it -- about us from Washington from Oregon. Org -- and issues. I think he got kicked off the team but freaky to. I was gonna bring up two guys for different military bloc had issues and -- -- about to be forget -- lots and -- things going back draft after draft Cam Newton character issues cult -- -- liar luck yet I think that's the guy for organ tight end. Ranks among the best tight ends at the com buying. I'd I'd I'd OK yeah doesn't exactly the drug use barely got him kicked out of school right. That was the guy was considered one of the best tight ends at -- -- -- drop way off the board is going to be a cute how stick -- she made of actually visited with the -- Bradley Roby. And he just was he -- it driving under the influence of something that does happen with him. And I don't you were talking about him as a first round quarterback at an all that drops -- out drops down but that beat a guy that the stock drops the bills could use quarterback that your name and I would even bring up. Well it isn't. It is in an off field issue. The brits watched. He just like rocketing out of the first round and people are wondering -- is that yesterday it is the discussion was. Would Teddy Bridgewater goal before. AJ McCarron or not or the kid from -- savage or even -- to Rob -- from eastern Illinois plummeting. Because of his bad pro day because he had a bad game. But he really really isolated they -- it really gets them off a guy I think if you're a quarterback like. -- that if you love that kid on tape during the season. And all for whatever reason he's now dropping like a stone. That that be a guy you can get some serious value I I think that you got to look really hard and any guy who is dropping down on the board because that's where you. -- value just in the later rounds but. I think it was Jim Norris Jenkins who would have been maybe a top five pick or top ten pick. And that going in the middle the second round Saint -- few years ago because fields -- any of the other -- that I would want a whole team of guys who had issues but I think like the move which -- got bloody trash you. Well -- with the Rick Rodgers last year Eric that is what every took a shot. But yet -- I think yeah I gave up on you quick IE eight year old boy colts legendary director writer and make of the Super -- in the wall catches in the playoff game. Yeah out thirty and -- -- -- are wrong. -- didn't make the program do you think I'm worth a shot -- you've got talent the -- -- problems but head talent and I put him where should have been. 12 round third round pick that sounds like the trade for Mike Williams a mean right -- averages that. -- a lot of players. I think that with hockey -- a guys come up really big for the penguins UC open and for some reason he fell out of favor in Carolina it was a good player and Pittsburgh out of for nothing now the top six forward -- setting up of getting Malkin for playoff speaking of hockey we get back we'll discuss the 37. And deciding -- but many different ways we can phrase game seven before we're done at 10 o'clock. The 37 and deciding games that will be played tonight. Any rumor about eight. Possible landing spot that everybody's been room wearing remembering as -- landing spot. For Thomas -- -- you know I just I you know what for don't even worry about it -- I have license to make up we started out the show making it words Lagos yet. 47 games where it goes yet to game seven in the study French and Coleman asphalt their customers don't care about their parking lot speak about the people who walk through them. 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Thank you for joining us Howard Jeremy Matthew. Here on WGR eagle -- 550 join us it is 8552 -- fifty. Quick note and a look at the hockey could we wanna get set up for the games tonight. And elements in the Vatican two. Boy comic who covers the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. For the Tampa Tribune has tweeted this. That you know we mentioned earlier there was Chris Brown was Thomas and Chris had a note from the Bucs pre draft press conference yesterday about you know whether or not they might trade -- All of the number seven slot they love the deep draft all the underclassmen. A lot of guys available that maybe they'd be looking to move down out of the seventh spot we're coming tweeted Bucs are definite interest in trading the number seven draft pick. And are already making calls and an effort to -- So. Jeremy like -- manager of the Buffalo Bills that is the team. That has been mentioned as the biggest threat to get your -- Mike -- If maybe maybe it's -- alliance with the biggest threat as I'm in front of the bills right now in front of the bills yes -- attendant mentioned as a possibility. But -- -- in terms of teams in front of the bills. Tip has been really it as the main team mentioned as that's the spot or Mike Evans goes -- the -- mcwilliams and indeed receiving. If -- How does this impact with the bills are trying to do would you pick up the phone hate -- Trip up to seven and feel that you're safe enough to get Evans at that point. Would you still be trying to trade up further to get your guys. Were to sit at nine thinking. Evans will be on the board because temple was the destination they're moving out. I would call every general manager. And I would say at a -- won't block thing happens here. Right. I'll be dug well that you are the raiders. -- Collins -- You just call me if anybody calls you -- so if you get like if you if I get an offer from -- yet number five pick and all of your heads out anybody calls you let's talk. You know at the probably couldn't be too much -- does that say it calls you you let me know. Summit of the offer. And you elect -- -- -- guidelines is offered next year's one this year is to to move up five spots aren't alone is he right and you click hang up call lines. He's tell me you offered this in this in this is that true it was a -- what do widget which point the lions really. Media about it do you think you know what I do that. How else does happen. -- So lines that say so you've -- the ratings they had just talk to light your full of crap. -- -- -- -- -- Now while that's going to be -- MI -- what you see lines on the podium taking your guy. Lines would light of the bill or with a -- bills were trying to trump their fourth lines didn't make an offer they say. Yeah we offered up three seconds in next years first as we really wanna get up there and in the bills panic it's an all right Diego Oakland and make an offer and the raiders basically materialize a trade out of nothing. So how does -- work. In the draft. Those two guys who recorded but -- -- laughter consumer record Doug where is that conversation in jail all of the bad things that don't do that. As wanted to -- with GMs are talking about during all this how does it work. Would you do you take GM at his word he says he's got another offer from another team. My guess is you want to be able to be taken award because you have your job for a couple of years and in two years Michael's own so I got to know that -- can trust and that's one of the things we did talk about. Doug with that you know your relationship your -- trust guys that are my guys you know I don't I haven't thought that a lot in the NFL because there are a lot of NFL trades right I think like. In hockey. You know going back this goes back maybe to remember talking about -- years ago I'm -- hockey there -- GM that feel more comfortable making trades with other -- -- Other guys they trust more than other GMs in the league and how much of that other Obama. A dynamic that is in the National Football League there's a few traits. Could be I don't know I was laughing when you suggested. That hold three way conversation that that the -- pick up the phone. And -- say that's for the raiders. Are offering this year's tour next year's one to move up five spots. Now. -- saying it was and it but then why -- -- -- I would have been easier because I want the deal on it you're trying to beat by offers Doug. You call -- raiders back and -- your full. Well. May be but. The jets did just -- This is all right this is trying to convince them that -- teams in the -- is all written. I recall the jets -- don't don't bother -- actually told the jets that if I see them talking -- again the deal the lines -- a minute I thought the lions are. -- -- -- -- -- I know a lot of people are complaining about the draft had been held already I'm I'm okay. I have not hit the -- get in terms of draft type and mock drafts. Costing now I think this is really since the teams have been holding their pre draft lunches and we're getting a little bit closer the rumors are picking up. This is the best part I'm. We've got drafted today which is wonderful and now things are trying to are really beginning to pick up great I'd bump completely okay. With the draft being moved today I don't think it's made anything worse or drag it out too much in and other teams aren't big fans of -- their Dundee. They're prepared with the other day was saying and that they wish to draft was. I'm fine it's it's finally now getting exciting as you get closer and closer to -- I'd quit hockey notes here one. So a lot. Where where would you think oh mr. hockey fan that does Thomas -- would be rumored to play next season -- Minnesota yet right that is pretty much -- haven't been talking about. This from a columnist in Minnesota. Try to waters saint Paul pioneer press. This summer look for Craig Leopold wild order to spend whatever it takes probably another forty million dollars or so. To add freeagent Thomas -- to the roster. He's figuring is when he's he's I think he's got a place in Minnesota maybe the wife is from Minnesota played at Minnesota know that but he goes and trains there in the off season. That they would get rid of Heatley. Heatley leaving opens up the salary cap spot for Bennett Bennett comes and -- -- and -- there and all that stuff everybody's been. Connecting Vatican Minnesota forever but the new twist is that the wild that this -- is reporting up the while don't pay whatever -- to pay. Well just you know -- got a pretty good chunk of money for preaching and Souter you'd pay whatever estimating at Thomas that I think most people figure -- going to Minnesota. It seems like to be a legitimate contenders they need at least one more talented player you think you would say about banning is just the age. Got some miles on the bodies at some injuries throughout he plays he plays hard game in front of the net gets beat up a lot by the end of season. He's completely talented offensive player but. I don't know I mean I think you would fit well there but when you if you're thinking 234 years down the road I guess they're not they're not -- thinking went right went right and they've. -- you have now he plays on their fourth line but you have horrible you look at their top two lines and you know in whatever order they put an end. Combination rather loyal. Koivu. Common bill Parise. Gremlin and hitting balls Molson yeah Molson note there -- there of their top six forwards right now I Molson pride at stake yet. That it pops in and there's there's it's a pretty good top six. Spend less money keep balls were. -- like -- -- and then I would try to fill -- the rest of the roster with some of the great young players that they have problems -- their system they have quite a few. And try to fill up that defense Ryan Souter does not at the plate thirty minutes every night but yeah I mean. This -- that they can become such a high price if you were doing a comparison to. I mean also does not as good. Then it was seven totally straight scoring this year he was tremendous considering that he played for three teams and I I think that. That whole thing about Austria and I ought to shape just kind of looks like bogus I cheered as he makes a point -- game player for the islanders yes and it's yeah I played for three teams two of which were really bad. Yeah among their private were very good for the islanders one of the league's top -- even strength producers I mean I don't know what the -- as well. It's a big series for him against Boston and Ryan Miller his value. Took a hit with his series even though he played well in bouquets save percentage is not good they lost so. You know what that what about -- some Vatican is a big series playing Boston Montreal is a team is equipped to set him up and in good position to score. And and who he played really well against Boston it -- here he always plays well against Boston in the game he played for the sabres against Boston. Last year right the lockout year it was 100% the best games you'll ever see anyone play the five point game -- made to -- look foolish. I don't remember who we -- the puck around to score but and is on the rushing bounce it off the wall of himself it was him he -- I think it's somewhat important what he does in the series especially because he's dealing still I think what that'll team Austria thing like I was at a leader for team Austria which is really a big deal. Allegedly because they partied the night before because nobody else there party. At all or something anyway. I think it is an important series for him it is with this contract unless Minnesota's is gonna throw money at him anyways got such an example of production and he's a consistent. Score a year to year I know that. Even strength and power yet even strength the power -- he is one of the better producers from year to year to year to year not guys who go way up in weight down. I mean. You could look within seasons and say he was really hot at the beginning -- the end something like that when it all comes out in the wash year after year after year you can count on him. To put up. Pretty big point totals he's not the greatest all around player that's the difference between him and police say is that -- -- is and it leaked. All around player and it. We talked about this I think maybe last year longer talk about whether to keep manic here depending on what the rebuild plants were. And that would be my one issue with spending that much money but if you feel accurate on the doorstep I guess you probably got to do sell a wouldn't be shocked if somebody really pays out no matter what he does series. Here's the plan for tonight by the way we do know Montreal Boston we'll open up their series tomorrow night game one of that second round series. And then the Rangers and the flyers have been told. That whoever wins that series will play Pittsburgh in game one on Friday and will beat Pittsburgh right Orleans answers will be Pittsburg. I'm not convinced the Rangers beat Pittsburgh now I'm -- -- that's the flyers would be -- Rangers definitely beat Pittsburg. I'm not convinced that our goaltending better defense better out better depth. But can't quite match Crosby and well. And they you know they don't have Callahan who they would obviously relieved loved to have to. Type who will play the who's who's got the plays to -- -- -- like who's that was before it gets under Crosby's skin and Hinske was an animal in and it's yours if they have one they have better defenseman them they got my dollar bit Girardi yeah McDonough especially. They should be able to destroy the penguins bottom six. I think so and the top six of the Rangers. Well I got in trouble because the penguins coach is insisting on playing Craig Adams well there's the other match a veto against -- that's to me that's a blow right if long Crist against flurry in all -- blowout it coach it's a blowout but the best two players on the ice wolf play for the penguins. Here's the lineup tonight 7 o'clock Rangers flyers on NBC SN. These are all seven games Minnesota Colorado will play at 930 on CNBC. And then Los Angeles and San Jose at 10 o'clock. And NB CS and if the Rangers flyers game goes late my guess is we'll kick it over NHL network so enjoy. 37 games tonight in the world of the National Hockey League. We never can you meet the derby field yell let's meet the -- we go back yeah okay. Thank you -- -- sports today we're gonna meet the derby field. Stop it when you hear a name you wanna bet on a bank. Don't enter the party. -- I'm going to be there I don't know. 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