I didn't know until Howard Jimmy Matthews here on W -- we hear from you gonna talk about the new stadium we get to -- -- you can get too close to beat a 30550 Tom Ellis on -- reportedly will. Bid on the Buffalo Bills so. Awful sports fans wouldn't think of Tom Golisano is on the bills. Our web balls up for you at WGR 550 dot com but we like to hear from you like in Iraq -- all of you give us call at 803055888552. Foot. We spent a lot of time. Last couple weeks talking about. A stadium. -- a site for a new stadium. And how much would it cost to get -- -- stated because that the league continues to say the commissioner for sure. But a new stadium is key to keeping the bills Jim Kelly came out that some candidates you -- stating key keeping the bills here so -- would find out more about. The concept of a new stadium and one of my at all entail for all of us here in Western New York were joined by John hutchings John works for HKS architects now they designed. The stadium that is being promoted by the group that wants the facility at the outer harbor location Georgia as you notice in that group they were ominous -- -- as let's -- But they've also designed other NFL stadiums including. One that just got ported to -- when he eighteen Minneapolis -- John does -- this year John it's Howard and Jeremy thanks for coming on for how are you doing today. So listen we're looking for some information on stadiums and and John obviously you have experience in this UN the company you work for. For our listeners. And for me for purposes of background what NFL stadiums have you and the company worked on I I know minute Minneapolis is one of them. Well. Missiles streak of -- In the Indianapolis. Which host bowl. Of course it telescope state and -- at. All. And we're currently working with. I kings and the minute so much so. In Indianapolis. And next which keeps us. -- Designers -- -- first. Simply close. To understand the requirements cold -- -- In the design. And which -- on this opportunity. We -- more news. -- -- even so even then you mentioned you design a stadium with the Super Bowl in mind even in. Cold weather cities even in a small market like buffalo you what you still took that into account. Certainly certainly. -- it could have taken that route to go. I'll stay in the open the year. Were statements of could not have been put in position to win the -- me in typical. And annual financial model. Or a professional. Football. Administration it. Don't they state he'll do it. Sing and dance with all the premium -- minute. And the -- use still. A potential economic. -- John -- -- elevenths and issues with the phone connection some we're gonna put John hold don't go anywhere and I'm whenever producer reconnect. With you market sold on 12. IMac you go ahead and and I talked to John and we're obviously we've we can hear him but it's a little shaky -- we're gonna trying get a better connection and talk more because obviously. The next question I would have would be costs and if you're gonna build the stadium -- all the amenities and he. Pointed out Dallas. Was. Over a billion dollars and I think Minneapolis was just under a billion dollars Indianapolis with a little over 700 million Jon you're back with a strike. OK so -- you talk about amenities that I was that's one of the big questions were all wondering about if it takes an in state and keep the bills. We're wondering how much will it cost -- know it's somewhat of an unfair question because who knows what bells and whistles are going and can you give us any kind of range load -- what a new stadium would cost these days in new NFL stadium. Well world war against the best example is right now. In Britain in this. That won't now. Billion dollar state -- PR war site infrastructure. Such a situation chest. -- -- -- I think -- trying to. There's that and that is. Placed. Calls. -- -- -- -- -- Universe and of course seen since it. Reached. I. -- -- Is there. A list if you will -- Are there requisite that the NFL gives you guys architects any idea what they are looking for and it is data like what would make the league happy in new stadiums. What we understand their requirements. Or pool we understand generally are all stick. On our priest and a minimum. Amount sixty -- -- and then typically come up with ways to expand that perhaps. He worked seven to 72 settles in. Coach. John Hudgens -- -- from HKS architects so when you design a stadium that you mentioned several why don't you can bring observable I'm curious when you design a stadium. How much do you have to take into account. Market -- again all right so it's a smaller market here in buffalo. Do you take into account what in the market afford in terms of the price to build a new stadium. Well. I think it's it's not do its. Capacity is that you couldn't mixed in. On server. -- now and seeing double on content. In. Order. Somewhere in 67. Outs so. Start. -- congress. -- still works. And work. Are trying to. -- all too true that's fine tune. Now -- It's. Hatred terror seating options. -- Production. -- that of those the most important aspects when you build a new stadium -- design a new stadium now specifically with the NFL the premium seats the luxury boxes the club seats are they the most important aspect of the design. All the cool people keep. I get people that it. Helps -- court. He's on the so that's it's. Important to understand in the region and didn't translate. In seeking opportunities. For birdies notes are local community and street. A -- the last thing -- ask you about again when it comes do you design. How much do you take into account the city. The cityscape the landscape around the site how much do you I don't know localize -- if you will based on where it is going. Oh well matched. Sides or other and a total of franchises. In oh don't tell. Solar panels and Minnesota and totally for expression. And I'm a nurse. And important research into -- -- Didn't. Meet. John Hudgens Weathers from HKS architects John appreciate coming all of us this morning thanks very much for giving us the information today. All right thank you all right so we get at all how cool is that. And three for three and that they -- at least it now and suitable. I would go the smallest right I can build the stadium here with designs on the circuit board to building a stadium that with designs that will be affordable here. And that won't you know drive up the debt load and and his practical and we don't need 65 to 72000 seats here. Well you do wanna go multi purpose that's I don't I guess that yeah but. In your ideal world. Well should it what do you think is right. Right is the lower at RC a dome but rightist -- like 5560. Max. Well you know well keep costs down at this stage at all the bells and whistles driving up to a billion dollars on. The building. You know more seats ads too much more cost. Maybe just means it's a little larger. The cost comes in with land where it is. You don't how elaborate all the bells and whistles are but you know I don't think it's as simple as a stating it's 45% larger is 25% more expense. Cause it's much off right some of it is what what is the cost of of adult what is the cost of a retractable roof vs the dome -- mean that can change the color of. Stated if you look at Minnesota is that of HKS. You can watch what Minnesota's is going to do it looks perky nice fifth. A lot of glass on a natural light doors open like Lucas Oil field as the one and it opens the cowboys the ends open. They try to make it big open public space. You know -- -- -- wouldn't of the Minnesota baseball team it's gonna be used like that there's no QB he's not playing baseball games at this noose and its arc. But what I was gonna say is. Try to figure out what we want it to be it has to be. It has to be multi multi purpose. That's why when we talk about downtown. How close could it -- to downtown. I I've always wanted to be the convention center but it needs to be in the new conventions of the convention center is not -- standards of the country. You wanna play the game. You've got to get a new stadium we don't need a stadium but if we wanna play in that league we gotta have one -- and turn double as something that could be multi purpose is very very important. Think if they did debt that Joe's not here I thought they did some -- that with the old stadium in Indy. RC AA field I thought -- words it was a combo convention -- they've built in in the facility. These huge rooms and places they can hold meetings and when you -- any multi use means like what he was talking about. NCAA events. Concerts. I don't know like does that I don't know that you be exposed I mean I suppose you -- can play baseball games are they want to play at the Pepsi Center right now right across the street from the campus. But Tom -- used to me I was thinking and CA and concerts. Well Ralph Wilson Stadium does not -- concerts right now maybe again maybe with this facility you get concerts. Yeah Ralph was just it was less than at a concert. Is there a big push for this area to have an event and it's a place like tactic could hold bigger events. To really need that. It's a marvelously well she gonna do with it if it's model you constantly saying. If this remark at that is desperately needing a venue for Giants Stadium shows that would be a good case to make bought. I don't think it's desperate. -- I don't dispute it'd be nice for us we're not desperate for now I'm not asking that I'm talking about the performers. Other performers missing out on a market. For you to say you wanna have a place where you can have concerts like YouTube could come here is YouTube dying by not coming here now -- they've got Toronto really close by. So if you are a fan of him by a giant concert band. Is staring need is there a demand. For this market. I don't disagree I on the use YouTube because I don't consult stated that does not specifically about them. I don't that you and I would love the idea of like oh cool more cool bands are coming but. For a 60000. Seat stadium it's now how many bands are. Coming concerts are at that level. Panic what else would you put it. Other than what he had events convention -- things like yeah. Not to let -- call instead of the first and second round would you like regional regional you have that you -- you'd have a big. We have our Carrier Dome we -- it facility Paul writes in Russell mania. Agree totally. Now I'm on board more than 8030550. To join us 888550. To 550. Paul and buffalo you're on WG. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- All I thought I had kind of a question that that I knew that make -- able to answer. And it about the sale of the team. On the lecture at 83 people are beating them on the team and arm. I guess I met -- that question that I do not want until the -- he might think he would move out of buffalo had. If he would -- bigger than the other two. Cannot trust -- -- you know it will take that a second highest bid because we. Why not honor Ralph Wilson. Which is that she didn't hear and could. -- -- what I am white city something like that they you know what we don't want that one too by the team we'd rather have made any doubt I don't. On the team his interest start keeping it here or does that automatically is go to the Hyatt better. One we don't know -- we asked -- that question yesterday but he wouldn't effort we don't know to what I thought you're gonna ask is a question we've passed this. The super friends scenario. Good if there are three local bids we have a super friends this -- we all want the same thing here gentlemen let's combine our forces. Strong strength in unity right right but the next scenario only one of us. Can you picture three billionaires sitting around a table playing Buffalo Bills owner roulette. Where's like I Everett put the -- last start -- gets all the bills and who gets to be the -- the majority owner will some capacity right someone has to be. So I don't know about a super friends and -- how ridiculous that is but. What may be more just to speculate again. Maybe the Jacobs family. The extent of their public comment to this point. Has Dan that. They will be using their contacts and resources to do whatever they can. To help keep the bills here they did not specifically say they would place a bid on a team so what if the Jacobs family doesn't necessarily want a big. The controlling owner they don't want to be the number one lead person but are willing to be part of a group let's -- -- -- says all right I'll take the lead. Who's with me and -- was fairly says you know what weary in well invested in NFL team we want to keep the team here. But we don't just I wanna be the lead person have to deal at all that's a gesture. Glad Tommy lead the way and will be part of your group are sure that's possible but your initial question yeah we we asked -- that he wouldn't give it. Com I don't remember who was. Because we've had so many different guests on -- the last few weeks talking about this. But somebody did mention about you know exactly what is the responsibility of the trust now initially the you know you can talk to some. Lawyers and experts who tell you that they're they're they have a fiduciary responsibility their main responsibility is to get the best. Price to make the most money for. The seller in this case you know the family. But then we'll talk to the people that say that's not necessarily if it doesn't have to go to the highest bidder that the trust. Past you take into account which group won the fact is that we take into account which group has the best chance which person has the best chance of being approved by NFL owners. So. You know your example with Bon Jovi which might be a good example for us because apparently he's got friends and ownership Jerry Jones Robert Kraft. But it's possible to trust could in theory -- that explanation is correct it's possible trust to take a lower bid. Because they believe. That group is the has the best shot at being approved by National Football League owners but it definitive word nobody -- well. Nobody has said definitively. Whether that's in the trust or not. It's common lack of one next time you're on WG -- right ahead. Yes. Is trust is stating yesterday right now we've got 7000 scene in -- the old boxes in the dugout boxes. More moral or as many weeks as anyone else I would think they wanted to build something at least 68 to 70000 so that you -- Spread the costs have a lower cost of the individual's seat by giving more people in the stadium to give the revenue that NFL want. But you gotta make sure you get these games sold out the NFL -- -- blackouts either. So you know you got to figure out what can use again you know over the last you know credited dome would certainly help you in December. But the last years there's been an issue. Last year they sold out what they have what like one maybe two truce sellouts and they manufactured a whole bunch of others and of that blacked out games. She got a I would think you've got to keep that in mind in terms of the ability to sell these games out on a regular basis and -- on television. Right it might play. Let's let's let's kind of it's kind of a big yes you know there's no guarantee that make the playoffs this just in. Right but in any city if you're gonna go fourteen. In years development in the playoffs you're back and -- Well the -- on -- made the playoffs there were blacked out games in the nineties. When they had 80000 seats in the stadium. -- -- Again that -- be out there looking at trying to keep the cost on the you've got to have more more inventory -- them that the -- two small stadium where it's gonna be out pricing themselves and it won't even saw the 60000. True there's also a demand to -- lower the supply the demand goes up I got a better chance to sell tickets. I think yes a lot of business manager -- Soledad there's there's this is what the new stadium working group part of it probably will consider. I should be smaller stadium than they currently have -- one of the smallest market should not have the biggest stadium I mean it's it's the small market. So it should not have a big stadiums. And it should be retractable because they have trouble selling tickets because people don't like to be cold as much as you know we get calls about all of whom don't know yet. When it's nice out you wanna be endorsed. -- -- jays game and it's beautiful outside who wants -- who wants the roof close to -- you want to be in September. Here. You wouldn't necessarily wanna be in an indoor stadium with the roof closed open it up right so that's it but then that what's that all the windows down. Power power is at hand crank up above that what do the first ever -- home. -- just kind of rolled on the sides. Breeze comes through. Bureau put all times come like restaurants that have liked the windows -- allies and open up when you have the air come and how buffalo is that giant garage doors. That's in its roof does India have that. Just one and there's a basically a giant to war yeah pretty much slides open the -- -- state if we're gonna make this thing is buffalo is off retractable roof. With sliding sides. -- garage source. -- to try to pick picture guy. Like like a guy standing there likes with a handled sliding this large door -- god or Allah once feel like a buffalo that is it's gonna like. Very very small fences around the entire stadium -- Practiced you know. So that then and then and then think if you're in the end zone with a one of the sliding doors opened and you then. Go out and have lunch at a table and have like the game on the big screen TV as long as we're just you know. Brainstorming. Eagle 30550 to join us off in Indianapolis. WG yarder right ahead. -- very good and good -- that's my question. Good about the old stadium not to because I've never been in the news data but I thought the old city had some kind of convention facility. It did. What it would be in service for the call it a little also doubled -- to mention better. The look that it is -- -- but credit when they tore that down. That was overflow for the new convention and that they built. And they also built a spine above ground and below ground. Viewed RCA dome footprint as well -- the Lucas Oil Stadium. But the old stadium was was -- mean it was it was a stadium and convention center Lucas Oil as it is just the stadium. Correct but if you use that. Oil stadium. Area for our overflow on the convention that well when their opinions purple ball. Okay yeah I I I I thought I remembered seeing. Like all these meeting rooms and stuff when we walked from the hotel over to the RCA field -- -- excuse me so yeah I appreciate it thanks for column back on that Colin and her Oprah you that's other to other -- -- -- your idea. It was done in Indianapolis we have a football stadium and and you have your convention center facility there as well. We'll go to Greg in Toronto next Greg you're on W -- right ahead. An -- I think Barack. These stadium builders they look at a collusion. How do you feel -- built for 200. -- at 270. Million. You know a year ago and all but now we're talking. Recorder. All of billion dollars let you know it. You know I like -- wanted to -- that you build an awful awful mean. What is it that they like that I billion dollar stadium that it seemed like it is only collusion in trying to raise the price. Well they have horse -- they they of course the designers wanted to design you the -- awesome ride and Indianapolis in Dallas and Minnesota wanted. Or at least they've proved Super Bowl stadiums yeah that and keep that in mind Greg don't forget he stressed when they designed the stadium's design it with. The Super -- right the starting point is sorrow the Super Bowl. No it can't it probably can't you probably never will. Aren't and that's fine listen I I don't and I don't think I'd still drive was less it in today's dollars it was like thwarted four I agree. If if HKS once that is on the stadium they walk in this right wanna start from the suitable we say okay. Move past what's next -- -- what's the -- level like what what else can aggregate you know I don't I don't need the supreme package what what can you offer me in the hey this place is kind of nice yes. That's what I'd like it like it to be covered. Potentially you know. Put it somewhere close people can access it I'd like to get there easily and get out of there easily and I'd like -- seats that face. A swath of green grass about a 140 yards long with goalposts at the end it's like you know like when you're buying a house and go visit your realtor. Let's go to got I got this house for 350000. Out. Yeah everything a little bit less -- that nice neighborhood good schools I need -- backyard I need a two car garage but I don't need this one Tony bedrooms and got a pond in the back and don't need it right only upon us. It says so -- the point is yeah I mean remember he said when they design a state of the first they do is Super Bowl might be gonna do that. Then you're building a stadium with every possible bell and whistle to get the NFL to bring you a suitable to your city -- that I don't think would be the case here. -- to -- there are plenty it is stated that opened up that didn't run. 750 to a billion dollars Pittsburgh among them we talked about yesterday Houston for a number of statins that in 2014 dollars. Their cost to be around 400 issue million dollars you can get it done. And by Houston hit it get a suitable 8030515. To join us 888552. Factor to any thoughts on the stadium discuss we just had. We're also talking about Tom Golisano. What do you think bill's fans if he's the next -- he is going to reportedly. Bid on the bills. If he's the next owner how to feel about Tom -- Coming up at 9:30 this morning we'll -- -- hockey talk Ken Campbell from the hockey -- -- be with us. Got -- article their draft preview about the building plan for the Buffalo Sabres that's later in the show we're talking to you in -- 30550 and Tom Golisano on WGR. In the article he made it to you -- -- with a certain thing. And he's admitted that I don't think people don't like about upon. And I don't fit the moment -- -- go back to Cleveland could open a clear reminder of them are real fans broke clear of the Cleveland a real friends. I think you know -- always was always open bidding would go back to Cleveland I think it would be a great way to finish his career. But throughout didn't look great way to sort of your career. Charles Barkley talking about the drug scene of the Cleveland how cool would that need. Of -- caps -- hope. That it convince carrier in the state. Yet another lottery pick maybe -- do better than last year's end to come back Howard Jimmy Matthew here on WGR Charles Barkley comments about. The Miami Heat their fans in Cleveland the NBA playoffs continue last night's San Antonio blew out Oklahoma City. It was. And 124 point lead when I tuned in the third quarter they went on to beat him like 35 points so dispersant that there's two against -- And the thunder can't play defense. The NHL playoffs continue tonight by the way quick update if you missed it and while -- -- -- but anyway LA came back and evened the western cup finals of one last night. Game three. Of the Rangers Canadian series tonight at Madison Square Garden at 8 o'clock Rangers lead the series two games -- -- -- car ski expected to start in goal for the Canadians tonight 8030515. To join us 888550. To 550. We are talking today about. Tom -- Who according to a story in the troubled son. Is planning to bid. On the Buffalo Bills. And -- we wanna know plain and simple the fees and extort the bills were to think what your opinion be -- Golisano is owner the bills Webb pulled to. You can vote either I'd love it are paid 69% voting I'd love it 31% voting -- there are. Other candidates we have kicked around the could be better -- you know we've been Jacobs Brothers have been mentioned the Jacobs family Jeremy Jacobs -- and cell -- team -- -- -- the -- Lead owner because he owns the Boston Bruins. But the -- has been mentioned and that's a viable candidate for buffalo not terrible -- -- on by the third will be of tremendous candidate for buffalo. -- for the bills when it comes to Tom Golisano he's the best name I've got yet. That the names are Tom Golisano. Bon Jovi slash alert atom bomb analyses. And Rogers and drop their. I mean Tom also most far away number one. Other names that could come out could easily surpass Tom -- or maybe he's working in concert with someone else but. Right now this report that he intends to bid is the strongest. For the future of the Buffalo Bills that we got. We get to your calls here I don't feel like if you wanted to address and email as well. Not this it does the Nellie got not to sound dumb but at the county slash state paper new stadium why would tickets cost more. Stadium would be paid for by a party other than the bills -- ticket prices could be similar to what they are now. It would be great to hear more about the -- okay well -- the ticket price increases based on the fact that I'm thinking at some point I personally would like. The new ordered it to take somewhat of a financial stake in this stadium the vikings are paying part of there's nowadays. There are stated that -- -- -- on the NFL roller ownership does not put in assent. But I I was pacing the ticket prices going up on the owner. Whoever it is. Putting some money towards a new state. I'm we're all expecting the state will pay for the I would assume accounting and costs the taxpayers left pay for I would like to think that the owner will last -- take a percentage as well what it is I don't know. But I would. Figure that into the equation. So it's not all heaped on us. And if that's the case of the owners taking on debt by the way ticket prices also go up even if the owner doesn't pay for the stadium at all. Ticket prices could simply go up because the owners taking on a massive amount of debt to purchase the football team. If it's a billion dollars. You know you're taking on your you probably financing some of the sale and -- taking on a big amount of debt. So to pay down your debt you need revenue and the easy way to increase local revenue. These two set your tickets at a higher price so that's why even if that the state and isn't paid for by the owner I -- some of it is. You've still you could still increase -- increase your prices because you're trying to pay down the debt that you incurred. To purchase the global team remember. Ralph Wilson was debt free that team was paid for. The stadium was paid for he operated the bills debt -- the next owner will not have that luxury let's go to Justin here on W -- -- just. Yeah I gotta -- -- Good then I'm trying to go out and the other and saw all of that I'm getting down -- -- -- And logging execute them and then the -- your job -- and it. Our local loop and I couldn't stop that I'm on the -- comment on your previous stop by the commercial. The other talking about it the fact that the sort of beat plan that. You -- that the team that immediately whether it. It will cost them that if that's true then how you look at the it's actually is super bit -- -- -- -- absolutely and I've commented that that's got a comment about. It's two totally different things first off there's a salary cap your budget isn't higher than 125 million dollars to play for pay for players. What about the Super Bowl stadium could be talking about a billion dollars. Did you actually -- also that cost the studio and bring have been created in ten and makes people wanna come about well. And I would group also integrates good or -- talent hello when -- -- into the -- -- They got us -- I guess I don't understand what he's saying it's. What are you talking about that that I. Don't like stadium it'll get you a winner faster out and just not adult and if that if the stadium -- -- million dollars its not gonna beat a dump. So don't don't worry about the cost that not at all just and it's it's -- summit itself like. And -- you're buying a used car -- -- -- -- buying the worst car on the lot you're buying a -- that -- and the make those. So. There's no to me there is no equating. But the bills trying to win a Super Bowl with you've got to build a billion dollar suitable bells and whistles stadium it out. The Steelers -- Heinz Field. They built it at a cost I don't limit exact numbers now with somewhere in the 300 million dollar range in -- fourteen dollars Heinz field's cost. Is 45460. They -- suitable. To build a billion dollar stadium with bells and whistles and all the stuff and and you know they don't have the humongous scoreboard video board the Dallas that the Pittsburgh -- a suitable and Pittsburgh is a winning franchise so there's no equating. Don't even think about. -- would -- global you don't build a billion dollar suitable ready football stadium. But thanks for the call 8030550. To join us 888552. -- bring up atop the stadium. Quickly here there's an article and art voice. By Bruce Fisher. And he had a couple of locations in the that the basis of the article Liz. Why the stadium belongs downtown not out of harbor not an Amherst not even central terminal he's got a couple of sites downtown one. Niagara street next to City Hall. Or as he -- second best South Park avenue next to the Seneca buffalo creek casino. And he points out downtown those two locations. Existing hotels restaurants coffee shops public transit and one of the largest inventories -- circus parking. -- well within 3000 feet. All of the stadium. You put it downtown. Provides us with the best. If not only the only possibility for the regional economy to recoup the twenty million dollar annual subsidy plus the price of the new stadium that we have to today. And eight points out though that and you put this out the break that Steve -- there the shoreline apartments -- you'd have to get apartment owners to sell and demolished and apartments. And it that doesn't happen and I guess the waterfront school building is there. Then he suggests a site that I've heard people bring up the Perry projects. Two and half million square feet adjacent to the through way highly visible. As another possible property downtown. Through exits multiple through exits pre existing parking. Water sewer electricity lines drawl and for that Niagara street property as well so what it's worth we talked to. Carl Paladino we the other day we had some different concepts he brought the republic steel site. There -- couple other sites -- street. Maybe. Maybe an extension of the rail line if you put it on South Park out by the casino you can extend the rail line out there or perhaps. With the all of that the U the -- to project which has been admitted as a possibility as well. 8030550. To join us 88550. Q 550. Tom Golisano gives college let us -- to think if he hits the next -- the bills to like that. Don't panic don't freak out don't worry about. Yeah but the sabres lost this guy and that guy. It's different business it is an NFL team with NFL revenues. NFL payrolls this is completely different than what he inherited when he blocked. The Buffalo Sabres -- for the lockout even coming out of the lockout. -- and like was little better on the national hockey when I was speaking of hockey at 9:30 this morning and Campbell -- from the hockey is he has an article in the the 2014 draft preview about -- plan the building is stockpiling of the draft picks in the position the sabres will be -- In the next few years and how long it might take them to get back to -- to the top of the league. We'll talk about that with -- coming up at 930 and we'll talk to you and he industrial 515 on WG. -- -- Letting Sherman. A period reported today. Give them my butt but. Yeah we get we gotta go and a little bit. Not here today but we gotta give props. Beast mode Marshawn Lynch. I am sorry the -- not here because I just want to say. How much I admire his approach to the press. -- like the players the coaches the staff. Owners. Regulations to Seattle Seahawks and the whole city for outstanding -- -- both skipped out of the White House. It's too bad he wasn't their. But what they had going on. The White House the president. Your chance to get. I don't know White House covered scandals and a White House logo it's kettles. -- voted for and later. With the political message. Like -- 850 Howard Jeremy Matthew with you here on Dolly's here are 8030515. To join us we've been talking this morning about. An actual real local name wants to keep the team here. First one out of the box. You know again well he hasn't Tom Golisano hasn't set a -- the report in the Toronto sun yesterday said. Tom Ellis -- is planning on. Bidding for the Buffalo Bills. It is unclear. Whether he would be the only person bidding whether there would be. Another person or people in his group. But the story says dollars for sure Golisano would be the lead. In the group if there is a group that would get on the bills with him so you know in light of what happened with the sabres. Looking back in his tenure as owner the Buffalo Sabres. And projecting out how he would be as owner of the Buffalo Bills how that go over with you. If Tom -- Bought the Buffalo Bills this really interest in -- here in late may. I think you know you yesterday's news is big. There's you know the and that the naming of the investment banking firm and the transaction counsel is big this I can now really start move. Yeah the of the exciting part for me was I had to me in my investment banking from -- fantasy league you're at Morgan Stanley ya -- I went -- and it's got to keep relief and I just I've you know I've got to -- that that was going to be choice so I stuck with -- The firm at chase stay who is they're. T spanking and I had no idea that somebody else in the pool and actually even had Roscoe Rosen my law firm massively too so. Big day yesterday but it is it into the timetable it it is significant. Because now they can put this the book together that will be reviewed by potential bidders for the team the two agencies that were hired yesterday. Will now are expected to contact. Prospective bidders within thirty days. So this thing in the next few weeks I think it's really gonna speed up and maybe it's been very quiet to this point maybe you'll hear more. There -- Seymour hear more about. Specific groups -- people that are involved now because. There's there's the process is now there's a timetable there's tangible evidence yet that it's moving. That the banking -- we'll get the book out the get the bidders they'll figure out bidders they'll submit the bids. Will the pick out which you know they they send all the bids over the trust trust says okay this the -- were taking. They submit that to the National Football League in the National Football League would then have to prove potential -- again to stop that that portion of it. We'll get your -- your -- with -- 515. Tim Graham had a story in the news today that. The initial timetable of -- perhaps an ownership vote. By the NFL on October might be too ambitious that the sale of the the team even though it's fast tracking moving along pretty quickly sell the team is probably. Such a big process that it would not be ready for NFL approval October. The next regularly scheduled meeting is in march of 4015 but I don't attend to it this morning to remind me that there's a December meeting. Scheduled for labor updates so they could vote in December so they don't get it done by October. Then possibly you're looking at December for an ownership vote from the National Football League to figure out -- should be. Fred and Amherst and and if not it would be march in Europe WG jogger right ahead. Thank you Mike Cameron is Ike I like the Golf Channel -- already used to all the sports team. I'll be at its I keep but it still sports team and the second thing. This thing that I that they that they operations not a Jerry Jones traffic in the third he used the pot you'll keep your. The electorate. -- -- the third thing is the biggest thing. You know what I. I'm okay with your plan that typically come -- I would prefer an owner who puts his people in place but the GM do his job or whoever runs your. Footballer hockey side of operations. Let the business people do their job -- I wanna be informed about what's going on but I don't need a guy who would I don't think I and -- I don't envision Tom Golisano sitting in the draft -- saying you know what. Like the linemen from Fresno state instead I am pretty sure he would let his football people jobs and whenever this is -- and that got -- at the current staff. Which they have placed Russia as an existing relationship Russ hired dug around -- brought in Doug -- my guess is they would stay status quo that -- -- This is always appoint its product we never know how much input and -- -- we only assume that's all that. If the owner says. Go to the top of the draft and picked Nathan McCain and is that bad -- -- It's very cool lights Christian -- off was that bad. He liked Ville -- look at maybe he did we don't -- -- -- you never -- with the owner likes and doesn't like that GM goes so. I don't mind if an owner puts his hands in his property. In on his team because it's his team to have a lot of these owners probably do win. Probably have success I just want I like my -- to trust the GM and what the GNS -- and if he disagrees with the -- thinks is GM is running team badly. You can fire the GM bring another guy and but I'd hire the guy and trust his judgment draft free agency trades to run my. The sports side of my business properly and that if he doesn't I'd find somebody else to do. 8030515. To join Israel lines open if you wanna get in and share your pin and Tom Golisano coming up next hour. Couple things to get you well mentioned Ken Campbell from the hockey you'll join us at 930. On hockey you can cross off. A couple of potential landing spots for Ryan Miller so list is shrinking in potential landing spots for the former sabres goaltender. And -- lines are out talk about how many times the bills are favored at times their underdog we'll talk a little bit about their chances in these games when we get back on WG.