Jun 19, 2014|
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Yeah this is a medium I don't know if we can put the parts and other. I thanks Josie we're talking bills football and actually joked at a I think he's gonna contribute an answer when we do our next instant trivia. Rent by me to get one. 830550. Open and many can't be able all the covering a mini camp and the other two days. And actually this is a big debut called doc to jail. He'd basically goes and hiding after this and we won't see him again until it's what July 20 at saint John Fisher. So it's your last chance to the tock bills football job for training camp next month it'll throw but if you got a question got a comment. He got a page on how does this guy look. You can let us know and dial us up now. I've got first question sure Joseph how long until bills fans are comfortable with who price around news. I think it's gonna take until the pre season just because. No one has release seen a ton of work for him but they talk about a lot yeah they do and for good reason because. This is the guy that was highly recruited. Went to Tennessee was. Kinda got into trouble and and never really was able to establish himself as one of the premier running back in college football which he had all the potential in the world today. Many goes to Philadelphia as I think seventh round pick they just take a shot on them shot the dark and and he ends up having to pretty spectacular games a couple years ago and but then got marred by fumble problems. Ike there's a stat out there on him that he has something under 300 carries in NFL and NFL and college combine. So we knew what that. All with that the talents and the lack of mileage. And the age he's only 22 that that all adds up to saying okay well this guy could factory in. Maybe not. In a huge way I think Bryce Brown more than anything it's insurance for Fred Jackson's CJ Spiller. And even. Would give them the flexibility. To put them both on the field at the same time because now they know they have a competent third what I Tashard Choice will kind of back is brown is he somewhere in between Jackson and speller yeah he has he's not as north south as Fred Jackson ferocious. You know initiate contact. That's the guy that Fred Jackson is but. CJ Spiller is more of the east west five find semen. On it up field. Bryce Brown is a little bit in between he will. If the hole he will they try to find more yardage from the outside from time to time means he's a little bit of a combo. Of sorts of those two guys but. And to be honest I haven't seen him. Play. More than those couple games with the Eagles because he doesn't have a huge body of work so. There is that sort of a certain amount of it it's just. Trying to watch what he does from from time to time I like him I wanna see what he can do on a full scale season that's that's really the work. You talk about running back insurance I wanted to ask you because the for the first thing I thought of is I don't think they're gonna re signed TJ Spiller. So because he he's up after this year right he can opt out he's got affordable year and he'll be an unrestricted free agent I don't think they're going to sign him I wouldn't give him a big contract. So when they got Bryce Brown my first thought was and is it the correct thought that this guy's going to be. The successor they brought him in here because they're gonna need a running back because she does not coming back I'm not sure that. That your correct. I would argue that they'll re signed though I I think that could still happen but I don't. Think that there were in a situation where we can rule out anything I could. I would sit here and say don't resent CJ Spiller because I'm of the mindset of getting flushing out your running backs and they get to a certain age and bringing in new guys because. With today's NFL you bring in two guys who were 23 and 22 does and they don't have a lot of mileage other tires. Just okay because you can find running back you can find running backs anywhere you saw that this past draft where. Teams waited waited waited on running backs and the first one ended up being taken was cheer me deal. Or was it bishops AT and trying to remember which one sack yet there somewhere and sinking hide and hill world the second round and trying to look I think it might NC. So debt with that said that's the way the running back position ghost I wouldn't do it but I'm not ruling it out. I think. You also have to consider what they do with Fred Jackson. Is he going to be back next year he's an unrestricted free agent and he's getting up there he's got a lot of mileage on the tires of he's a good guy for the locker room in a very good player for the past three years but. Does that make enough sense for Doug Whaley and company to incorporate him past 2014. I would argue sign him to a one year deal and continue if you're still trying to build the team as is. I would argue to keep him around but. Well all the same as they have some interest in decisions on their hands in the backfield. I think with Jackson and a lot of it I mean I was so come on his his feeling on his worth but. It wouldn't surprise me at all each side kind of sent. If this makes transfer but we love them here he loves being here rifle I am a fair wage for his agent for what we expect him to do. Because he's exactly the kind of got it onto one yeah I agree wholeheartedly I mean. You'd look at Fred Jackson he is like a father in that locker room to a lot of these younger it's localized areas that got really angry if your round ever and ever met at saint John Fisher he would forget about the that they I'd bet you he would agree with. I've I really are related to Elvis phenomenon changed the grandfather but go ahead and. Hook that well Aaron Williams is someone that came in he was fresh face didn't really know what to expect out of buffalo. Meet Hughes attached to projections I mean those two guys are inseparable because Fred Jackson kind of took commanders weighing taught him how to be a pro and went from her so that's that's the type of guy that Fred Jackson isn't. I could absolutely envision a scenario where they go. Hey you know what did. As Jeremy set this just makes sense let's let's keep your round but all the same the NFL is production based business and you wanna. Keep a guy around just for a sentimental value. All but he still have a role it's it would diminish I would assume but he still have a role here not just the leader in the room actually. You know maybe he'll get less carries but he would still be I think productive I think this year's huge to see how much. Fred Jackson has left in the tank for his future and but. I like Fred Jackson I think he's an extremely hard runner and every time you'd try to count him out. He just keeps coming back even from injuries what you think he just tore his ACL I remember the jets game Oprah opening week two years ago. Eat he suffered a knee injury in my eyes season's done but he was tearing up on the sidelines he thought his season was over he's back in four weeks. Asked there was Miami game with a car was coming out and he waved it off. I think happened a couple of thought the weather got better over the game led to react and Miami that dad he announced and they said they bring in the cart out for him he's like yeah. Dorgan all applied and I get that's projected he's got a super human respect right that's why that's why I think you'll still had any role. Beyond. Ambassadorial. If you Weller but rather early this year he's going to have a big role on the offense and I think it will lend itself to see okay. What do we do with Fred Jackson passed 2014 we need to figure this out we need to figure out who still has stuff like a real but the 54. Bodily the running backwards bishop sank he was the first of the three taken Joey went 5040 Tennessee. The next pick was Jeremy hill 55 and hide this behind us 57 San Francisco so the first running back went 54. In this year's draft. Josie you're 8030550. Will take your calls on it when we get too caught here John and wanna talk yeah. We'll talk more about the running backs but everyone talked about that made me Vermont were reminded me to bring up each. And the role of the running back the offense to some of the things that packet was talking about finding a running backs normal talk about that we were just discussing that last hour. Let's go to Greg in Rochester Greg route which he'll be here on WGR. Hey I'd go ought to hear you talk about Ryan Beck I attended grid you Mike what you did all of that I would Spiller. Nobody but you really educate tribute of light speed and optical boring actor get that Zuckerberg contract in what they're more like a Mark Wahlberg got it ignore having a big party run. I've got to agree to attack on all of a good amount that the Baghdad really the only way these days running back it. They get horrid people are betting he can they can you know happened that the caliber player. Don't get that and the patient because the public Geithner doing current outlook. Yeah attitude that those are good questions but to go there I wanna get a little bit philosophical. Just because we talk about contracts. It's not about what did previous year it's about what you projected view and I think that's a problem a lot of running backs are accused of running intentionally you talked to. You're statement like Marshawn Lynch right now is thinking right he wants to new contract and I'm sure he's not thinking about. It's about what I'm going to do it's about your reward report I did hear yeah that's not how. NFL general general managers operate in a fit it if it does if that's what they do then that's a mistake because you have to always have and why looking for. With that said I think CJ Spiller has the potential to go off this year. And not in the 2000 yard rushing sort of way but. I think they're going to try and utilize him a lot like Chan Gailey wanted to do it and to be perfectly honest out. I wanna see CJ Spiller in more screen type of situations I wanna see him be utilizes receiver and I think we're gonna see that this year I have. I have a lot of faith in the fact that I think CJ Spiller going to have a bigger role outside of just being. A pay go hit go hit the gap between the guard the tackles horrible so. With that with all that said yeah I think CJ Spiller could garner a bigger contract. In. The offseason just because if he does have a big year. Mean he's someone with the lead speed only change of direction ability. I mean he can he can get out of the little pickle in a hurry. So I think he could get that contract I'm just not convinced it would be in buffalo but I wouldn't be surprised at the ones. Although one thing I think he has to convince NFL teams of is is their ability you know he hasn't been. Really hurt but he's been exceedingly her college slick little things like that you have an ACL get an ankle high ankle writing and it's tough to point that it's very tough you know I'm saying for him to get maximum value on the open market. If you can find a way to have all happened Celtic year. If that includes sixteen games and at no point have like well you know Spiller was OK today he doesn't look like himself. I feel that that has been something that's hampered him is as much as any whether it's the daily saying he's we ended. You know he says he's not the coach says he is that's there's something there I don't know what it is. Whether or not to carry a load but I'd like to see that I don't have any doubts about his health widget that you were right at its top as he takes a beating. And I wonder Q Joseph you were just bring up the role. Feel like there was like there was a ransom last year I mean on behalf of the coaching staff whereas an innate I think Gailey. Evolved. Well make Spiller evolved in Gailey offense Gailey got the point where you know in his last year Spiller was a big part of the offense when healthy and just like last year. It just didn't have that same faith or sense of exactly what is the best role for you just want. I'm with you I think he will get more involved this year and for whatever reason just never happened that's an out. Standing observation for a couple of reasons because one the I think CJ Spiller was severely missed cast at the beginning of the year. They were building him up to be that. Chris Johnson. When he rushed for 2000 yards in what was it 20072008. When he when he did that. That was the type of running back that the invasion CJ Spiller becoming that's his closest sort of comparison. But that's not the guy it's CJ Spiller is. Chan Gailey for all his faults in his inability to put defense coordinators in place to be able to stop the run all. He understood CJ Spiller to a T he knew exactly what to do to get him in the right situations. And honestly I think it may be got a good portion but I think a portion of Nathaniel packets off season was trying to think about early. How to like it CJ Spiller more ball and I think what you're gonna and Epstein. Is a lot of two running backs out of the field not a ton but but a substantial amount. Mean put defense is on their heels because if you have CJ Spiller let's say you line them up as a wide receiver you libel guys up in the back field. They don't know what to expect. And the U put him in with comp in concert with Fred Jackson. I think that's a recipe for success for the quarterback makes things easier. Makes things easier for the wide receivers because when you put spoiler on the field you have to take notice. And I I think that's been the biggest hurdle for a game obviously injuries have been. But the biggest hurdle for that has been figuring out the right role for CJ Spiller. I think they're gonna have a much better grasp on it this year Joes here too. Join in on the conversation was us 8030550. The meat that can tie me into the point we were discussing in the previous hour. You talk about TJ maybe getting bigger role he talked about Fred and his role in this offense the being you know important obviously. And we were listening in to Nathaniel Hackett talk about getting the running backs more involved get the ball then dump offs and things like that and like my radar went out there and I thought. Okay I get it I understand it it can create more positive plays speaking. Increased the completion percentage for the quarterback. I'd be worried that if they do when so much of that they headed towards making it making it conservative quarterback if there are they talking EJ so much about. Running back running back running back dump off dump up dump off that he's now going to be com. Too tentative and outlook for the receivers enough I. Make one rate open OK running back dump. And like not look to make plays downfield. I don't think that's the case I mean. Which you guys want to see that no I want to make plays downfield one of the trying get the ball to receivers and be that okay but I just I'm I'm. I think there's that. They want to make plays but they also want to have success Rwanda have 58% completion rate and you know not making positive plays and it's easy just to dump it off the running back that it was take a few yards on this play. I think the first eight games are going to be huge for him in that respect because they are giving him. A lot of freedom this year to change the play at the line of scrimmage trusting what he sees that's gonna be. Probably the biggest thing for him to get over them just trusting what he sees trusting his instincts. And fighting. Your receivers entrusting your receivers to beat all of that they're so many different things you have to think about as a quarterback that. That's why a lot of these guys flop that's that's why it happened that's why only a select few. Dominate each and every year because unless you totally get it. There's just going to be a lot of guys that ball to the wayside and they need to figure out if EJ Manuel. Has it or he doesn't have it and that's what this year's all about so. I think the first eight games were there in a situation where they have the wide receivers. As they have the running backs that can contribute in the passing offense is well. I think a lot of it is going to be determined through the first eight games or so just because. Then they start to get a handle on what EJ Manuel is with the full complement of the often threaten them. Sugar coating it for him and limiting what he does restricting him. They will give him the opportunity to go do it and if time passes and he is not flourishing. Then maybe they pull the reins back and say hey you know what we're gonna go the more conservative here and try to win games that way. 8030550. Jovi here are 888550. To 550 he did it cause I used to offer number chuck your I would kill on WG. And I did and what they're put all great and all EJ Manuel basket. Plagued older picture what happens if you can't stay healthy. And or just kick it is unfortunate or. Do you go with low that'll work trajectory or optical but accurate because. But it sort of a little bit in practice now if you think what you O'Donnell but it the bullets are quiet. I gotta kill. Them all able to know they all the are all running outdoors and. Lewis is the answer right yeah that Lewis is the answer but here's the thing. One it's June and all these glitches that we're talking about he's eleven practices into the off season. We still haven't gotten training camp pats haven't gone there has there hasn't been the ability for his players to be physical. And so there's just. There's a lot of gray area here with these practices of don't read too much and then I mean it's it's good to see what he's doing but the wreaked collection of them to the end them at this point. And secondly gets it that the lists that's their backup plan I don't think they will address the quarterback position at all in the in the offseason nor the time leading up to training camp or even in the middle of the season I think they're comfortable with that Lewis. They'll point to his win loss record and then go from so I think that Lewis is the backup plan whether you like it or not. 80305 gifted join us phone lines are open Joseph is here for the hour. Hustle continued take your calls are wanna move out of the defensive side of the ball and talk a little bit about Jim Schwartz the new defense of courted but you wanna talk a body. CJ Spiller. In inning on the offense especially whenever anything goes related lines remain open 8030550. Wanna remind you that the horizons. An 889. Game homestand with a Friday night bash Rochester redwood Beantown you know believe it or not I don't wanna and it's scary and it's not even July 1 yet. Only four hole weekends left in the licensed when he fourteen schedule one of them is this weekend and great weather here as well so here's the deal. Friday night bash tomorrow. Gates open at five. 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Well you know we put hot tub in the back agent that we that I thought did we then we did the old and my ride method very nice exhibit came over and it really put hot oven in the back yet if you are studded lineup that's not I could you exit disease and it's a war with ex wife. Jeremy goes don't you know. Would you explain after the show no doubt no doubt I've. Without let's just sailed past that Joseph is here 8030515. Now forget it 888552. For fifty college opening at a bill's questions those commas those bills opinions you can share with JB he is here at 9 o'clock okay. So mark is good was solace last hour. And we talked a lot about the offense obviously but we also asked about it returns he says he thinks he's going to be in the mix this year. And in all we we talk about how it was so great pre season and all of sudden teams that are really good job of keeping him in check out of touch backs. But some who were balls that we thought you know he might return any nice that you have the green light he said basically five yards or deeper. They town to take any. Why. That's a great question I think we should start hash tag called no more deals. No one else like that because. It doesn't make any sense mean I heard that comment and five yards or deeper okay. Shirt I mean I understands. The the concept behind it for any crosswind and company but. Just let the kids why. I mean if you have the potential to break it open and have a game changing play right then and there in one play. I think Jeremy put it best you have. It up play that you can score on why would you remove the possibility of scoring from you mean. And the grand scheme of things if you end up on the fourteen as opposed the when he is it really that big of a deal. It's your offense gained six yards I mean if you end up at the one and yet you screwed up royally and and may be might double picket but. How many times is a guy like mark he's good way to. Who ran what was it four to seven at the combine how many times if he's. Catching the ball on nine yards deep going to end up on the one yard line I'm gonna say. Half a percent of time right never. Do you adapt the fumbled the ball. And then have trouble picking it up before he started the run and then and try and run so if you're comfortable with having the ball somewhere from the ten to the twenty yard line. Just don't want errors in a their reward is their reward is sold. They think. That why not take the rift. And I am in total agreement with open view on this but. I guess we'll have to see how being crossbow and a lot how is his return guys to do this. I ought to him we can get some momentum building towards training can happen have like some big demonstration Sunday at saint John Fisher returning cash vaginal more meals and more deals well actually some dirty started on Twitter so they're that you trademark that by any chance a moment ago you know trademark after I got my own. On mission this season which is no more fate passes. I don't want fades anymore. The couple reasons one manuals doesn't seem very be very good at the one of the reasons that when we won at the pre draft prep I want Mike Evans is because it thought the bills would continue to throw. That it draft Evans Watkins can be good at it by feel like with a lot gains with Williams with everybody. It's one of the least effective passes in the game and there I tweeted today link from the big lead they did quick little study about this couple years ago or last year. And it found that. Passes completed 25% of the time whereas passes that are short of the gold line completed 66%. And at worst you're gaining yards but when it comes at the studies of what you should do. The bills need to use the whole ends and I think two off Ngo and this isn't just in the end zone in the red zone. I think that they give manual throws that they think low risk profile of the jets game right all the store growth on the sidelines were like. Well he's back and picked off like he just. I don't want that to be afraid. And I don't want him to be afraid whole field use the middle field teams. They dared the bills to do that for the guns they're gonna make Manuel do is throw it in his in the tight spots because that's win. Yeah I think that's something they're going to have him try to get over maybe. I don't know fear is the right word there. Conservative conservative. That being hesitant. I think all of those certainly play into what his rookie season was and that's that's what tends to happen with young quarterbacks if they don't get a certain degree of successful start a horrible little bit and then it's on the offensive coordinator in the quarterbacks coach and the head coach to get in his head and say. Analysts and you're gonna have these opportunities down the line don't. At this become a trend. I think that's that's the one of the bigger things EJ Manuel went and I agree with you finding different ways to get it to the ends on the fade pass. What I mean if you wanna try it once and now it and let's just go forth but. I like slant. Patterns too good. The very front of the goal line to be able to sneak in Napoli coming you have a couple of good body control wide receivers and Sammy Watkins and and Robert Woods to be able to do that and many think it's a bad tackling lead you mean like Britain one tackle and six point was exactly in. Then you can incorporates Dick Spiller in that capacity he can break tackles Fred Jackson do the same so. There's a lot of different ways I think he can do and plus if you're that close of the goal line I don't know how close your thinking here a within five yards to the pages is that what you think and. Right I don't want that there in tightly if you're deep route and I have. In a from what I understand the bills want things that they've excellent that is. Fade patterns and how receivers break from farther out. From about 2530 so that's different bills scored a touchdown on that in the open last year Stevie had a kind of theory and the like thirty yards when he brought yards I don't mind that not this good timing there for short it's when your in close at like they're dark like inside the fine yes exactly you know if you don't have Calvin you know you don't have that guy. There are better ways to do it and you know what they have other off. So this year a guy who's good on the goal line. Anthony Dixon is as some has had some success at the goal so tapering Amy specialist teams don't often do you think is the new Tashard Choice well trying to think Jackie battle. I think did it for the chargers are the titans a couple of years ago in Bristol went to touchdowns. And there have been cases throughout the past few years of teams that have done that and the bills have shown over not just last year but before that when their when it went on the goal line struggle. And if you have. A player that can have that ability to punch it in the end zone and to do so I think I think Dixon plays into it. I don't know if you'll play and as a big hole right away but I think he could certainly play into rate there. And then you have what I brought out the slight chance that the back of the end zone passes where you're looking for abilities have some guys crossing you don't have too much time but. Have some guys crossing back there. Trust her tight and two to go up and get it. So there's a lot of different ways that you can do it while avoiding the fade pass in the if you wanna do every once again justice spice things up and do it but don't make it eight. Dominant feature of your goal line opens what are your initial observations of Jim Schwartz to this point granite obviously very early it's super early I mean you see the 43 defense you see him trying things around. But mostly it's pretty straightforward in the fact that. You're you're gonna have four down linemen two defensive ends to defensive tackles. I have seen some blitzes from quarters and things like that throughout OT Aso. Don't worry ever won it's not Dave wants that CNET and you start it's straightforward Judea and Judy guys on the no. It's not once that you don't or what's that yeah now views do you that a few times I've gotten some hits by. Jim Schwartz at this point you can't really lean too much from the routier's from a coach perspective. But. I like that he's trying guys in different roles throughout the OTAs and throughout mini camp. You see you've seen Mattel Roby had to work his way up. Again and he just makes a play a single day it's I mean it's kind of amazing he he dominates OT eight this type of practice setting. You see other players like the seventh round pick Randall Johnson who was initially lined up at linebacker they put him at defensive end yesterday. Preston brown the third round linebacker has been getting some run with the first team has a nickel linebacker looks like Kiko Alonso so there's been a lot of different things. They're mixing people win. And that's really been the thing I'd like to see just trained guys forever single situation and and that's what they're doing. Josie you're 8030550. Working around for another segment got any questions or comments on the bills or fall underwent open dock the mr. this guy yeah. Will get back we will test a couple of things which obviously I will test his knowledge of the bills. Will test his. Reaction time. We'll see how quick Joey it's not street gently you remember this game for salon and a light as a jog my memory I'm ready I love this game. It's very popular game never played in which got the lightning via yet so we'll see how he handles the pressure. And weaken pack. That would and we definitely and it was you know that I was their first first game ever I think that anytime you do that just like the first game with TJ we. We wanted to see you know make it a nice relaxed pace we sped it up as he was in there for those first couple games. Anytime you have that quarterback that won't for a life and always keeping that pace up. Nathaniel Hackett. You don't want. We're doing that it's good that training camp this year with him when lighting I'll never player. This chart with the coaches are older players would swap. 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Well you get that Keith Williams I mean I know he is Keith Williams woods was key to a training camp guy he was a dark for the team the past couple years now man yeah it's it was on the pills he might have one of those little squares on the walkway of the it was a seven Eric guys you've got to be. Jason baton released by the jaguars. Take a look so they look at it more fit than non. I mean the guys that got a wide. Nine defensive end and that's what Jim Schwartz employees and they need other pass rushers so out there McCall I think it would be worth your time definitely. It's that you brought up the white Knight and pass rushers. What is many laughs and role in this defense this year. I think Manny Lawson his role in the defense. And she has to be determined and they have him not a good thing I know I don't know that he's necessarily a fit for this defense. He is a defensive end that's where he's been practicing that's what he was in college but that is now or he has had success in the NFL. I think he's might be the only guy on this roster. That would get lost. In the switch the transition from. The 34 under Mike Patton. To the fourth three because he's one of the only guys that they sign for that defense last year yeah he was and he was bread and butter or Mike patent defense I wonder I don't think his roster spot would be in jeopardy if the roster stands as it is but if they bring in a dialing Jason Babin. I mean that could lead them to go well you know Manny Lawson got three more years on this deal. It would probably it would cost us a little bit to. Release him this year but. If we can get out from the contract because it doesn't fit us. And allow him to go somewhere where he does it mean even if he goes to Cleveland and plays there under Mike Patton again. I think that might be the best thing for all parties involved by if they don't do anything then Manny Lawson will probably be honesty because they don't have any defensive end depth. Okay that simple as maybe the answer to the question but I'm gonna ask it anyway. Quite likely the roster is set that this is the team they will take the training camp. Is there like you said I doubt they take a look is there a position. Where for another guy. Was available he'd say take a look at is there anything you'd say guys you should still look at pass rusher corner I don't think OK it was great putt it because of Tony Molly hockey. And not knowing what you're gonna get torn him only hockey yes. And Scott Chandler we know what's got Chandler is. If you can get an athletic guy who has been established in the league maybe has had some injury concerns and you just wanna kick the tires on them. Go for getting tight and as one of those positions where. EJ Manuel tends to favor his tight ends from time to time and I would love to see them go out and get. A player that has extreme athletic ability in people bring up Chris Wragge was wrecked. I just don't see anything potentially from. He's a seventh round pick Howard not a thought no I believe me I'm I'm this is why we were bang in the old drug free ground but no I I hear you look at that is that named. Lot of people say I don't think he's all that deceptive. And that's a big part for tight ends I think he's very robotic when he runs and in I don't know it's got a lot of wasted movement in my opinion by. I just don't see it from Chris correct it it just. You know when a player you see a player like OK that I hit that guy that I don't see that with crisper and he's a good player in the sense that he got himself to the NFL but. I don't know that he has what it takes to take that next well in very limited time. I can't say that I see anything I'd be feel OK there's late in the gaming is a potential winner was the only time he made any. Outs of impact on an offense. And go back to like this including pre season OK yeah. It does not imminent it's obvious you very limited during the regular season but we see more from on the football field in the pre season I can't time that this something that made you stop and think. He's a gem just waiting to be developed and. Now that I think special I think tight end is the way to go if we're gonna do that but. Outside of that the number one to me would be defense event just because behind Jerry Hughes and Mario Williams they have Manny Lawson injuries when. Who we just heard about and which I would not gotten. Win Jerious went it would add that I'm very disappointed in my key points I just have to say well I don't want you now. Maybe you wanna know if I want in camp I wanted to get the forty I really thought I could it. We gave another shot at training camp. Oca. Numbers I'm telling every numbers are going to go numbers are fun. Now if you know the roster I would be completely stolen numbers. With 61 is Colby way about that. The buffalo yeah I don't and I thought I don't think we did it for real or fake bill. Sorry for all the way it's totally forgot. You can stick a for real known stories out there. Well listen we will see you at saint John Fisher sounds good yes. Rest well my friend I will do I would do just that thanks for coming in for the hour do they keep. Joseph B what is Joseph this guy and I'll get a break and we get back US got bill's questions comments and we touched on this last hour for Joseph you wanted to I made a real factor do we have. And he shall juicy rumors to get to next are we have. A stat it's one of those. Did you notice that existed in Major League Baseball I did not but it's a very important stat to put into proper perspective. 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