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Mike Hsu opened the bulldogs can I tell you that you guys threw out the first pitch that if god became the fifth up from Los Angeles. You know it was a perfect it was it -- at this skeptics might show being on Amazon and -- There's nothing like this. The snakes alive twelve feet long the spiders. Use the the -- for houses there. The eleventh and news. The locals and a Bulldog who's that -- a lot of things. Hope you love me. Before I think he. But one thing became -- -- It's Mike Hsu for the bulldogs researches looked the about it. Learn something about it Don WGR. Back to Sony. And that culminates with the hockey game coming up in now a couple of hours the sabres and Anaheim Ducks. We'll have -- game for you at two run early because we wouldn't have had any time to talk about the -- game had no show today. No show that wouldn't work. Eric wouldn't normally joins us on Buffalo Bills football Mondays at 4 o'clock. Will join us tomorrow. At four if your wondering about any kind of rescheduling the hockey game for a few McCain amble through our regular day -- would tomorrow. And the sabres play tomorrow to -- in Carolina tomorrow night 730 so Robin. Another freak show we'll sort that out you know let's make sure to watch this game so we know -- to talk about I'm watching. I'll be here by the way one quick request if you are -- the -- look please identify yourself thank you for calling. Steve it's easier for us me -- on WGR below you -- Vickers in my. Greater. -- by the we're. -- it is a stand. The singer I think frustrated most of most about the whole thing is it is it is the same old same local. You know are looking at Cleveland the team that holder number one pick an extra by the way and I -- -- -- -- coach billions he would go there. Who ever regret the rivalry the patriots do with a possibly buried here in the -- corners banking gains were retort to a point where. -- problem 31%. And I think the last touchdown was a throw -- touched -- racquet is it too much to expect as ever and I'm not talking about total -- But here's a -- your coaching this team ready. And I think our team was not ready to the patriots once again I'm sorry I sent this over and over again. But they weren't ready. But mistakes come out of the woodwork. The defense holds personal pressure up the middle I mean it's my bracket and in -- interest in Kuwait breeding deep. And the seven Europe born and we're playing we're going to be Iran we have our best big guys up the middle what -- -- built -- -- -- promised -- -- -- -- -- -- excuse but it's a crush gracious and the worst part about it is that he -- -- one click next it's just well that the state. OK I don't know with the browns. Important difference in that comparison is that Pittsburgh is terrible in an accurate enough the patriot turned out the patriots are so. I I I like the caller I watched the highlights last night on NBC in the run up to. Today that eagle Johnny Damon when I saw and I knew I knew the score of the game anyway. But I'm watching it and you know -- ruffles -- beats them all the time. And I did I didn't think about that I thought like you know here here I am in this is all too familiar spot where Tom Brady just absolutely destroyed me again and and dumb but yes right I sure does not and we analysts say they're terrible I don't mean and I'm not. I wanna take back terrible I just don't think they're good it. They're definitely not a week. Even if they're -- like there'd -- -- they're not to me and I'm doing. So. You know that that's that's one. Wall with -- but I I get emotionally with the call I was envious of the browns. That says at all I promise of it but. They need did on their home field to the team that always keeps the sand in their face they did they they did it. Moment of the -- have had their days but yesterday it was a big game for the -- of me and leveled by -- with this group for the whole group -- more grown. The quarterback change this deep into being good all of it was all -- but we would be soaring today probably irresponsibly so. But we would be. And instead it was just the usual and it's just it's just so sadly familiar. Scott is with a -- Scott. Hey guys don't you -- good -- got deployment. -- just aren't you know obviously this morning lots yesterday but the thing that makes me crazy is that it just seemed like Kirk coaching it's just. Obviously -- outclassed without question yesterday we are approached you guys were talking about. Now the talent and everybody thinking that we have a lot of good player you're a desperate at this point you look at it I think that we really. The wrong -- to have a rookie coach. And rookie offensive coordinator in itself. Giving back to this team is probably ready for the playoffs but levels now there. I'll -- not what your thoughts. I still. I don't know it's just so repetitive. I'm not given up on this year I think her own. Is a disappointment in a lot of ways I think he's super conservative I think he's too old fashioned and when I wanted. The bills. When they were placed Chan -- when they went out to look for his replacement I wanted to think they were ready. To. Accept how the league changed and goal modern and when they. Came home with -- -- who was at Syracuse and they had. But improving program. IE wanted to think that he was that. But he has not been that you lost upon he loves to talk about field position you want to talk about running the ball he used yesterday. So. He is a disappointment. To me. And it's difficult to hear him talk I think to. He tries to explain things I think he's sometimes quite bad that it. But I'm not don't with this year they have good players they are three in three. Their schedule is favorable I still think they can do it I think. They have to figure out that Watkins. Is important. And it's not just because. He's good it's also worth the should be doing because of what they spent to get them. So it makes sense for them to think that way. I think they'd be better if they did that and I want -- I wanna -- that yesterday it was the last of we're gonna put Sammy Watkins on the field all the time any. I'm not done either at three in three but the man at the schedule tells you you shouldn't be. More honorable bullets here. If if that's what you roll out in the biggest gain since they got here. Would that tell you handle Sammy Watkins like what did they find religion watching the tape this afternoon. You know I know in my in my that I think that like all gosh I guess we should use him. -- couldn't hold it that it's it's it's discouraging. -- in all of the the two things we've been talking most about. The usage of Watkins the sequence -- six mr. go to me are indicative. Of maybe all of a problem that I'm I don't know I'd -- I may beat Minnesota. Do you know despite it by -- I don't know I'm I'm I'm losing steam on the vision of the people in charge of the game's over here just yesterday was just demoralizing -- them. Yeah I'd only feel that way I don't expect him to beat all these bad these bad teams are -- -- bad teams teams like them. Minnesota is a team like they are so was Miami so was Kansas City may be source Cleveland -- -- of the team. Was the jets twice those of the six games. You know I I don't think they. Just roll through that -- because they're not good enough they haven't shown to be good enough to do that but. If they won four problem it would be interest and a winning record right and I don't think that that's. That much to ask I think that's possible. With this coach with what we've got in this team I think that's possible. Here is Jim on WGR hello Jim. Big guys are. Outside what bugs me most about yesterday's game is always upon talking to people like out there and I think we're gonna see. They're creative use -- -- games because they haven't put a lot out cape except certain routes and the like that's like we're gonna get the bubble screen where he gets that many pizzas -- Revis. And may be reversed or jets lead or maybe see the same thing with Spiller because they didn't have it I'm Kate and it was thought that would've caught. We went -- -- them in fact I thought it was. So lackluster that it. You're right it's just. They just didn't utilize them I thought they were -- -- just for the game and that was completely not the case and the creativity of this offensive coordinator is really lacking and actually -- really ought to stop that wasn't. Available for them this -- Wasn't. Implement its take advantage of the reason why they were for wants aggressive trading up to get them and and they got super conservative with a minute I just can't we just can't leave it. They're good point you know. I thought this week when we heard Watkins. Pronounced himself. A 100% would be the injury is no longer a factor at all. He conceded that there were some things he maybe didn't wanna do some certain kinds of hits he didn't wanna take I thought that at least. We'll have supported. The excuse that I didn't love but I that was the only possible reason for why they hadn't been doing that stuff with him already. Is that -- wanna give him hit by linebackers on bubble screens and expose him like that so now he says he felt like OK all medio defected even. And and it -- -- -- -- falls in line with the -- thinking of the -- would not seen any of that yet so here we don't we get this thing with this. When new super expensive or that we bought. And instead we got like well Revis is government so I guess we'll just have to work the ball to him. I hate that so much football is more more about throwing the ball. Your AM early in the game my first series my big statement here in common on and beat New England for once and I go for -- you know it was one run off thing. The important -- -- it all done. What what I think a good coach does is steps back. And I don't know why a head coach can't do this exact hole plays like with -- whole head coach do -- displays -- it was with Dick -- which is a -- -- what does he. Doing between more than four so. Do what. I don't know I'm doing what fans are doing you step back and you go. What isn't happening in this game and one thing that right away was glaring to me was that Watkins monopoly. So I'm -- -- the game -- early it's 70 thing -- it's 77 I'm okay. What I'm doing early in this game if not the first series early first quarter for sure is -- involving them. I'm but it does take the snap and when it to him one hurry up play we'll see what he wouldn't you looks like. With the ball I'm just doing that. Football is more and more like basketball. Every year high school hours fast it's like a fast break basketball game you're watching. And I think that's what basketball coach does hey Joseph always in. Involved he's not scoring he's our best player. Get the ball to show run stuff through him you know they thought they call a timeout in the do that in football he get these long stretches where your whole offense is on the bench you can talk video. Didn't happen. Did you see. That in college football this week and Gregg Easterbrook. Had a total 62. Teams scored at least fifty points. Think about that in college football 62 teams scored at least fifty points Baylor. -- -- of Baylor anybody see that game -- 837. Texas Christian ninth in the country lead with ten minutes and change left. Lost in regulation. This sport has changed and we know it. And if the bills don't. However -- up to that they were just talking about how to roll the ball better. And how good -- lumbering tight end is or Chris Hogan's career day of five for 72. For 720. -- good for Chris Hogan but what is the significance. That did you see the the thing on the toy guns. I -- yes. Their first 100 yard game from a tight ends and net sellers in 92 but no -- game. They announced that in the press box. Yesterday which I appreciate I was glad to know that it was something that is a little embarrassing. I wonder if they are glad they did but they did. They announced in the press box that Chandler's hundred yards. Marked the first time a bills' tight end had gone for a hundred yards not 300 right. A hundred yards since muscle cars in the -- point game. So you know what I did last night -- my wife was watching homeland which I don't like any -- to count up how many hundred yard games. No he -- on the -- that's too much I did you would fit I went through every. Week of NFL football from week three of 19922. Yesterday I thought that would be awesome thing to do but I -- it too. It was a lot of us. One -- that long ago it's just no good anymore I can't stated so she she likes -- I Colin -- homeland now and then so. We read in 922. Yesterday how many tight ends it all hundred yards. 260. I think somewhere in the bills organization they think that Scott like what Scott Chandler did yesterday is a big deal. And it isn't no it is not in this league is not -- you know off the opera and how many the patriots had. In that out of that number you can count -- -- -- know with the guys they've had but EE of course you know Fernandez and jail but he was really -- well he was there. Gronkowski of course evenly then once it probably had. Capitalist and -- I -- Ben Watson but I saw Ben Coates writes that goes back well before I think colts. -- you see some names on atlas. Rio 260. Times. Tight ends. Have -- overall hundred yards now okay fine. The nobody's here nobody's here saying that the bill should people for that everything. Have they ever. Goal and after. An athletic tight end. Have they ever to graph that one have they ever signed a one. Treated for one who is the best tight -- they've had in forty years. While the league. Terms in this direction and as you know when did Antonio Gates come in the league. Ten years ago more so you've had this loose change of direction in the NFL. And the bills of don't want about that position. The whole time up to right this moment. It can reverse it will be answered back on ya ya right maybe for quite a bit but might -- maybe he might -- Robert Royal. Okay -- I don't know. Whoever you say it's sounds a little more colors yeah. So late in nowhere at that position for a long time right. You know. 260 games and that. Via don't. Good work. I am a broad approach to work with you. Each time you don't know period. You know under way -- -- -- just what I we're alone won't slip up that. -- I didn't know it was him. I am a little embarrassed that I didn't I don't. Also feel like I should've known necessarily easy I didn't a lot of people. I. I I'd listen to and after the fact -- you know. I'm on the W -- -- FaceBook pages it's terrible rule calls the hobby and -- sitting there and you're talking to him and making it to the -- them. If you get a bit with what I could tell moderately important what you don't know the victim bill and benefiting should be you know. Boy that's see it's a good question isn't it yeah I think it's a good question yesterday had a few good conversations with. With guys in the press box media guys like I did you should I've known and you know some people said no I don't know you would've been a couple people said yeah I can't believe you didn't. You know but whatever that's happens. There's no there was no earthly reason to think you would have been them right. I almost didn't take the call because it was my last. Segment of doing that show in over six years and I have a lot of people wanted to thank. And you know it the the situation. Might have called for like a little bit of perspective just me sort of talking about having done it and what it meant to me or something like that. But I actually thought to myself this is not that often I won't take that -- called because I'm a wanna do something else right. What I thought was he's been holding. I just felt like wide right and so it was a little bit different for me even go to -- you know. I'm certainly glad I did that shortly it's embarrassing but I'm super glad it happened. You know I'm I'm here now totally flattered that he did it yeah. I think it it it's it. It's I think it's nice for you legislate from the station but it is said he wanted to call the show it's very flattering yeah so. You know life. Talked to him for a while the paper called rushed off the year of the paper couldn't have been just more wrong about that rushed off the year. You have no idea how long people are actually on the air for. A lot of people were criticizing at those are all people who have no interest at all and whether the show was any good. So if you wanna do a good job you -- rush off the year you just move along you know right so. And yet -- talk tonight talk -- back and forth a few times and then it was like OK I gotta go and he gave the -- I gave the gotta go so I talked for I don't know who minutes I've I had a lot of I'd written all earnings down and all these people -- the thing I talked with two minutes. And then as soon as I'm done and I -- right on time the other and that show on time deserves infomercial starting next. If I had recognized it had been -- the school we would've. -- -- -- for a few minutes but that is and how I'm thinking so. I go withdrawal Melissa thank use and I'm -- on time I'm happy with that like oh okay all over. And then I looked in the control room and peek -- is there and he goes Mike. Kevin Sylvester just called he says he thinks that was Terry who. The -- as I go right that that's what are the two minutes after he was off the -- are still had no idea at all right. Then I went to Twitter and it's like a lot of people are saying that right. And like oh my goodness you know so I found out you know few minutes later that it was definitely men. Paul had had almost -- wanna say pull that information -- -- that. He will -- what you know I will talk about collecting another time you know think ahead and had no indication of that he was like -- he might about I don't know. Why wouldn't you he did -- ever so do we want you sound what was the point. Right at the end there when you gave on the -- ago it seemed like. It felt to me listening to avoid that when he was gonna good I was very interested to be listening to a place and I knew it was him because it -- -- was bill. A thirty seconds into an omelet you don't know exams are wanna -- opposite end this. And it it felt to me which he was our -- towards. Mike this is terrible -- -- -- -- -- -- -- news -- fifth but that was the only goal of one. Thank you although people that fondly about are pointing at least I answers questions right -- and if I think we're OK but it was a little bears and I admit. I wish I recognized who was delayed again no reason to think it would have been terrible call again. What do you know. We will take a break we've got the sabres pregame show it to get back to football here. After. An update from the harbor center fall festival on the stage a canal side nice day -- so warm the rain stopped. Maybe your making plans come down your hopes so much open the Bulldog here on WGR. -- you know get ourselves a chance late in the game you know I think both weeks even with the slow start -- we stuck together. We've battled there's there's there's some good things to take out you know from each game with our team if we can if we can play with the lead. You know in -- defense -- they're gonna be better. Kyle Orton there. -- -- no problem -- Kyle Orton. Today. You know -- sloppy in the first half you know put. A little slow maybe you know. I mean tailor Jones play the -- -- you need to play he threw the pick right. Yeah you just right to a guy a you know. So I think it's the kind of game from him that if. If it were manual we'd be demoralized -- -- -- he's the starting quarterback for the bills for right the foreseeable future yes. But I don't do whatever we got anything invested in them. -- he's not. He's not in any -- across here for me like. I think you'll probably maybe we -- as much as he loses Wiki as a whole career and like that Julius. To 99 noted -- whoever gets to 99 no no we didn't like if Manuel did that -- that game is interest thing maybe we would be talking about the pick her talking about the the -- Jones planet's top one. But you never did but even that game which wasn't spectacular. That would be Daniel's best yardage team ever -- by by just a little -- 96 may be against Carolina so but yeah. Here is evident with -- us on WG RI Evan. And guys who don't. I was out of -- they've got a personal you know -- about a quarter -- secrets Hogan as the top seventy the art he earned my brother and a -- -- yards receiving actress -- what happened and you'll start I mean he do -- he had one catch. What I wanted to talk about what. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- All what I wanted to talk about what is at the end of the half when we get the ball back I'm one of those guys and I love what coaches who were perhaps about yen and a half. And try to score points that thing I didn't like about the bills you're gonna be across it would 32 -- did not rule of law don't on the ball. And so they -- on the ball CJ Spiller fumbles and stick it on on Spiller. And out of patriots get the ball back errors second. Believe it was definitely -- it. Six. Eight they have the ball where it would have been a fifty yard field wall so yeah I'd rather go -- now strictly. -- Iran to help the offense we know we're gonna look for a quick -- yard hitter out of bounds. And the build peace and -- to come out. Call now and they're given that that or other quarters -- fifty yard -- Accenture -- smaller recall him. -- back on the field and in the corner and their receivers and ten yard cushion. Brady -- sidelines. A -- reach second off the clock. And he kicked you'll want to their -- like that why why it was your quarters like in white and her fifteen yards off they would they would reach three point eight. I agree I agree totally we had a -- 58 is the same distance that carpenter made his kick from and I was disappointed at that moment last week. That they didn't wanna play first. Of course carpenter makes the -- so you know scoreboard but ride the odds are different and more roll after that game in Detroit say that. Just like. Blew through it like it was so obvious everybody would have agreed with them what we can throw past the sideline they're they would have -- -- going to be -- so. I mean how do you wanna tackle us right away on its own team they didn't see it that way right. And of course New England didn't see it that way because Brady's on the field when they get just what they want right. Why you don't why you don't cover the -- why you don't assume you're gonna -- over the sideline is because you you you might be worried. What the bill obviously were that Brady was -- -- over their heads. It if we if we -- it if we -- the sideline play there that will spells gonna run dust a streak pattern and break he's gonna hit a totally in the -- So a week earlier you know the same thought process is that what. -- make a mistake let them but give you let them be so worried that your gonna do. There's an opening themselves but the be so worried that you're gonna do the thing that they don't think you're going to do. They give you what you really want which is the sixty. If you back if they're scared you're gonna be bold. No instead just assume and for it'll settle for fifty -- -- I know he -- but it's. Another one of these things like I don't know if they assumed that Detroit would guard sidelined last week why did they not guard sidelined him. Individually I -- estimate I don't acts. And if Detroit -- the sidelines so what. Throw the ball over the guys had by all you do is you drop back it's a quick play anyway right you just throw the ball over the receivers had you -- your 58 yard field goal at the end of the game but -- you don't have to kick off for a right. But if they wanna give you the six yards it could bowing out dead at. I don't think -- again I'm a little bit self conscious here it's not even that hard this one again isn't even that hard. It's not like we're sitting here trying super hard to figure out all the things that they got wrong that one is easy. So -- England. Improved its field goal chances by those five yards with a -- at the bills would not have tried. As demonstrated that we are the things -- injury the the one play in Detroit. But I think they also would not have tried is the play that set Detroit up to win the game. That played a Golden Tate I believe the bills are throwing the ball from their fourteen or whatever it was it in a tie with with two minutes there. Spiller running times article back last week Spiller running there I don't hate it I thought in in this one. Part of this. Rome views justified. He said if we if we got a big run -- we're gonna take a shot that's what he said yesterday in that might have been hail Mary or something out I don't need that first -- to be. They around their own thirty -- I didn't need it to be different. Dying let's see how many seconds -- I think it's. I don't know that I'm sorry for were out on location don't have been used -- for enemy but. I didn't I didn't mind with because there. It it should it should be. Safe and off I think you can count on your running back -- coupled usually. You know and and yeah you know so we -- it right we started here the caller saying. If you're not gonna go for it and just -- basically why you put yourself in the position of fumble. I don't but I'm worried about -- and they hippie boss around like he did. Now I'm in a spot where I can I can maybe throw one down the end zone OK let's let's. Flawed really I don't I don't think I'm not so much to worry about what I wanted to do is not fumble. Spiller it's just. Know where he's got to wonder I mean there's there's two things there's then not figuring out how to use him. And then there's just what what what is his standing with them and Soledad is on him you know the fumbles can't help him -- that points. The first place. The first play is a play like when you -- you don't watch the Specter. Find find Jeremy whites would have beat Jeremy WGR okay this morning he put a vinyl -- -- for flight. There is -- hole there. And Spiller doesn't take it bounces outside and lose four yards but that is the kind of play that had me all offseason wondering. They wanna plant the Ohio State -- a legal -- Bryce Brown who doesn't get it you know to -- -- uniform previews game yet. Because you know there we've got other guys have problem but we want to do what's your plan at running back. I don't think they -- butler's style. And they don't wait it was drinks at all. It's just that doesn't really add up. Well then. Go find yourself. A useful offensive guard. It would be a sad ending if they did that if they flipped him for a lineman but it would probably. Giving. What it looks like they wanna be make them better. And if any that win now stole -- -- if there are still holding any of that win now all the stuff -- Whaley said it sounded like they were just owning that. -- everybody's that way. If if they still have any. Appetite like that for this year -- in the emphasis on this year may be the new owners comes in and says -- let's do something like that. Who knows he's there now. So that that could now so things can come from that of course. But. I would think -- -- that's a sad ending for Spiller but it's not working this way. And they do have -- Don't. Who might you know might -- be the kind of backed just sort of hit it up in there are definitely wanna do that seat. Well the season's almost half over so take your time right I mean there's divergent opinions I've got about this on one hand I I don't what you're you've been saying for weeks. Don't beat them to be a team that -- it up in there. But that's who they want to be so maybe find someone to do what you want done. You know you. You keep yourself up for negative yardage there or zero gains giving your number one running back I guess that's what it's supposed to be. The ball and it's it doesn't get you. So I don't know maybe give the ball -- -- it. That rule and open there. It to your five yards and as anyone's out -- my dog has anyone. Has anyone seen my dog that was a great moment to go five yards and a cloud of dust but now qualified yards and a cloud of recycled -- him. Has anyone seen -- I love that yesterday DO. Sabres play today we'll have pregame it too much over the bulldogs from canal side here the harbor senator fall festival continues. And we're glad to be a part of it this is WGR. Or flags -- You're different penalty for the years and honest way and they're gonna come up nick and -- was really. I hated that. That is not a penalty that is the kind of thing that teams get away with even the bills sometimes the Miami game. And it was not as blatant as it was in that game. No that's right all the times San Diego did it the following week. To the bills to you know -- benefit. Both of those calls I wrote. A couple of paragraphs about the calls. Not to say like that cost the bills the game but. It's where the team turned to leave it there it is where the game. Got out of hand but we did the bills had entered -- week we've touched on -- we're trying into a field goal. And that you look like. I would start to feel like some adrenaline of like this could be a great second half also. And they overcame that -- penalty. And then were down -- it sound like authority in the -- another call on woods and both were very weak goals so it was 4314. Right there. Right it's -- -- nine point game. So you mean you can. You could tie yourself off and not bitching about the mental issues every week every game we -- you could do if you -- do I -- never really like to do it. Yesterday I just couldn't afford I just thought those calls were -- -- -- objectionable. This is nothing you can do. No and the longer you go. Being. The bills the longer you go being. You know just a team. Playing a team that is is more than that like New England the harder gets. You said on post game wouldn't know when surprise -- valid active says watch for this or something oh -- certain guys carry a lot of weight and he is certainly one of them you know. I think you would look for any advantage you can find. And if if Bill Belichick says that to a team official before the game or before the series before that we're at some point he puts a -- -- here. That meant might work for you that's why coaches work the refs in all sports they're they're hoping. Not to give them to change their minds about something they're there hoping for the Mexican impact for something. So yeah I wouldn't surprise me don't go to that effect with that at some point. And you know he's Bill Belichick he's a guy that. You -- you fully please the dollar. It shouldn't matter. That that call. It's not it's it's too dramatic to say that that kind of play threatens football but that's how I feel sometimes. Like. Illegal contact and and and that kind of pass interference with the bills are doing there with that play is meant. What what happened was meant to happen. The New England defender gets caught up in Watkins and his guys in woods is open and the pass goes to -- it's a little bit like cheating. But if Watkins just runs two steps ahead and stands there which is really all that I saw on that what's the rule. Right he's not. Doing anything illegal. But the play is meant so -- that kind of thing. Would would -- Denver does a lot of that because like a good team and a lot of that and the bills have but then. What's frustrating is yesterday was that time. It's like the right if you what what teams do is they -- the refs to call all the time. And of course American callable nobody wants to delete it this the refs don't wanna call all the time but what happened you know. Arbitrary early that's what's so frustrating about what suddenly just well I guess summit to rob McCall now you know that's that's right like banks. I think that's important I said this yesterday -- that are so there's a lot of times. Win a game has a lot of flags the fans complain. And the announcers complain listen to Al Michaels. When he's doing -- game where there are a lot of penalties mean I like he doesn't hold back he doesn't hold back Chicago San Francisco. Was a -- fast and it's like a big joke to him and he makes fun of the refereeing. The game goes too long and all ordeal is watching the refereeing so how do you want it. Do you want everything called no fans don't want everything called because then it's a joke and you know. Everybody complains about that so you want some of it called that. And know how we gonna decide what gets called the what is it. I don't know I've thought about that I just know I don't want a lot of penalties. What you end up that is that. Right that that's a play that it's still I don't I don't think Watkins is breaking a rule but. That played -- sold marginal illegal contact is like that defense of marriage surfers can be like that. Holding his like that you just get that sometimes the -- would you go that way. Right and complaining about it makes makes about policy makes you it's everybody's different but it makes me feel like a loser when I complain about it -- but. I just I I couldn't critics I go I guess I'm old I couldn't -- it was like it. We need to look -- the rules okay I'm I'm trying to beat this team. I mean -- they get out of bed beating me. Need. Have to overcome. Your random nonsense we can official a I don't need to have the climate Hilton. We just try to beat them for shots today. Speaking -- penalties were almost a hockey but we shouldn't let two hours of talking about that team go. Without the duke Williams went home my veteran who may be the worst football player I've ever seen one you know how -- a roll defense of back. Running down the field with a receiver in front of him ever get to the point re just who and push them over. How does that ever happen in the problems and you commit interference. By. Accident. Or you know you're trying to do you find your bastard trying to do -- -- yeah. This was it OK I give up at a total to do much all -- know turn what the ball lightning hit him in the back. While I was really bad now. Excellent we're on early with the Saber game being early to its three pregame is that who were there are so we will take a break and get to hockey. The sabres and the ducks. Kids' day Columbus Day Canadian Thanksgiving all happening down here in the city worried canal side the harbor center fall festival. And will have the sabres -- pregame show for you next much -- the Bulldog WGR.